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EFFORTPOST Are these people drug dealers or not? You decide.

Has anyone ever lied about? Spread a false narrative, and then others believed it? This happens everyday. People aren't even trying to be misleading. Sometimes they are merely representing what they believe to be true. Other times, they're looking at the evidence and coming to the wrong conclusions.

Today, you'll have the chance to be the judge of these people. They have been accused of being drug dealers, which they deny. Do you think they are guilty? Or do you think they are the victims of unusual circumstances?


1. Timothy Batts

Timothy Batts is a Black man who lives in Hendersonville. He has a daughter named Timea Batts, and he had to fight to have custody of his daughter. In 2011, he was the victim of a drive-by shooting where he sustained 6 shots in his back and a bullet grazing his head. The perpetrator, Cheyenne Turner, was dating his baby mama.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16953160897047195.webp

https://fox17.com/news/local/timothy-batts-was-shot-six-times-in-2011-by-man-who-also-had-a-child-with-timeas-mother

One day, he was at home waiting for his daughter. He had a firearm in his home which belonged to his cousin. Surveillance footage in his home shows him pacing around the house with a cellphone to his ear. When his daughter arrives, he is shocked, and he shoots her once. Upon realising his error, he rushed her to hospital but she unfortunately passed away. You can watch the surveillance footage here:

https://fox17.com/news/local/video-evidence-shows-moments-before-after-timea-batts-shot-by-father

Predictably, Timothy was arrested and given $1 million bail. This triggered a protest and a Change.org petition. The judge eventually reduced the bond to half a million, which Timothy was able to pay through crowdfunding. Shortly after receiving bail, he was arrested again and bail was revoked when he tested positive for cocaine.

Timothy's defence? He was traumatized by his prior shooting incident, and shot because he thought he was dealing with a home invasion. The prosecutors painted a different story. They found large amounts of money in his home. This, combined with his constant pacing in his home and the constant phone calls points to one thing - drug dealer!

In the first trial, they were met with a hung jury. Instead of going for a second trial, Timothy accepted a plea deal which had him sentenced to 4 years in prison. The judge claimed that Timothy was wrong in possessing a weapon despite being a felon. This sentence is the result of a plea deal, which some may see as a misapplication of justice - either too lenient for a murderer or too harsh for a grieving father.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/crime/2017/09/01/timothy-batts-sentencing-live-update/623625001

Is this a drug dealer with no regard for the law? Or an innocent man being misrepresented because of his criminal record and race?

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16953161491837187.webp


2. The Australian Katana killing

This is a long tangled story with no clear conclusions to be drawn. Jett McKee is a rapper from Sydney, Australia. He performed under the name Scepaz. I personally don't like his music. You can find some of it online. A lot of lyrics are depressing and hopeless.

His own mother described him as directionless, so it is no surprise that he fell into gambling habits. This addiction was worsened when his girlfriend fell pregnant. Jett also did drugs, including methamphetamine, known as Ice. As his debts grew, he eventually resorted to crime. In a foolish move, he and a friend decided that they would rob drug dealers.

With very few guns in Australia, they were able to do this with a crowbar alone. After a few successful hits, Jett's friend suggests they rob a couple in Forest Lodge who are dealing weed. Their names are Hannah Quinn and Blake Davis. They watched the house for days, waiting for the right time. Jett's friend could not join because he was afraid he would be identified by the couple.

So let us discuss the couple. Blake was 26 years old, and Hannah was 23. They lived in the same home, with Hannah working in a cafe and Blake attempting to make it as an actor. Blake also loves martial arts, and he owns several knives and katanas. You can see some of his acting credits on IMDB.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2457570

They were at home when Jett decided to make the move. This time, Jett was armed with a gun. Wearing a balaclava, he enters their home and attempts to rob them at gunpoint. They refuse to hand over any money, and a fight ensues resulting in Blake getting punched and knocked out.

Jett grabs a bag from Hannah and runs, but Hannah chases him. They struggle, and during the struggle on the road, Blake awakens. He grabs a katana and runs on the road and slashes the Jett. Jett succumbs to his injuries on the road as Hannah and Blake flee. Rather than inform the authorities, the couple hides the katana, and pack a bag with $21,380 AU$ before going on the run. They end up ditching the bag of money before moving from hotel to hotel, avoiding hospital despite Blake's injury.

Eventually, the couple turns themselves in after learning of Jett's death on the news. When the couple's house was searched, they found more money and copious amounts of marijuana. In court they claim they ran because they were afraid and thought the intruder might hunt them down to finish the job. Naturally the obvious question was "you were afraid you were in a gang war with another drug dealer?" Prosecutors claimed that the couple was trying to send a message to others attempting to rob drug dealers. The judge did not buy this argument, though it was concluded that Blake was a drug dealer.

>“Overall I am willing to find Mr Davis has no history of violence and was of good character until his recent, perhaps brief, foray into cannabis supply”.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/blake-davis-sentenced-to-five-years-and-nine-months-for-samurai-sword-killing-20210316-p57b22.html

Ultimately, the judge convicted Blake of manslaughter, and Hannah was declared an accessory. Blake was sentenced to 5 years and 3 months.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1695316195118141.webp


So where do you lie on these issues? Are we looking at drug dealers, or folks who have been stitched up? Does it even matter if they were drug dealers? Why so much stigma against substance use?

Tune in next time when we morally analyse JiDion, before we discuss Holly Willoughby's queue-gate. We'll also be reviewing Alan Wake 2 and Fate/Samurai Remnant.

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EFFORTPOST :marseyflagsouthafrica: A short History of Banned and/or Controversial Films in South Africa :marseyflagsouthafrica: - Part 2

I got exhausted last time of chronicling the most controversial and dramatic films I could find in Southern African history, but I believe I can pick up where I left off with some remarkworthy drama inducing films throughout history.

As you guys can imagine, the lionshare of sneeeed films would be those banned by the Apartheid regime's all powerful censor board, which had a hand in preventing both black and white citizens from seeing anything the regime considered amoral - be that polluting modern society with degeneracy like race-mixing, showing communism in a positive light, or stating anything even even remotely critical of the regime. Even white filmmakers could be jailed for a decade and up, depending on whether the Censor Board wanted to make an example of them.

It's also ironic that the most controversial black-made films, those usually critical of the NP regime, would only be seen mostly outside the borders of the Union of SouTh Africa, in foreign liberal countries like America, where other liberals would shower them in awards, yet the average black person in SA itself would remain in total ignorance of the Film's existence.


1981 - FILMS BANNED BY THE SA CENSOR BOARD DURING THE VIDEO CASSETE ERA:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16887246402381947.webp

Known by burgers as the VHS (Video Home System), the VHS were analog video recording on tape cassettes invented in 1976 by the Jap company - Japan Victor Company. There were various video cassette products floating globally all over earth long prior to the 1980s, and from different nations who all were in a "format war" to design and engineer the superior Motion Picture recording devices.

The technology for magnetic tape video recording had existed in the global television industry since the 1950s, but these devices were expensive and specialized, and mostly used in professional environments. By the 1970s, magnetic videotape technology became affordable for home use and widespread adoption globally, but the market was distorted and diversified over many different models and products.

When the Japs arrived in the form of the Japan Victor Company, which had invented the VHS in 1976, they near instantly dominated the video cassette market. The VHS cassettes were cheap, reliable, easy to use and store, and thus VHS emerged as the dominant home video format throughout the tape media period.

Like most nations, South Africa suffered from the 5 year rule - in that it took about 5 years for the latest cutting edge innovative technology, which is commercially available in Burgerland public, to filter its way into SA public hands, as the devices became cheaper and more widespread. Even today in modern cellphone innovations, you can see the 5-year rule in action: BlackBerries, touchscreens, Smartphones, Androids, Iphones, all took about 5 years average for the "everyman" SA public to enjoy the same as their burger peers. So too was it with the VHS.

Released by 1976 in America, the VHS would later find its way in South Africa in 1981, and became instantly popular as format for storing film. The VHS would be primary storage for movies in South Africa for the next 25 years, until DVDs arrived.

Video cassette recorders caused a revolution in the industry, spurring on film rentals for home viewing, and giving birth to the retail industry. This was followed by the launch of the black television services TV2/3 by the SABC.

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IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER IN WHICH FAMOUS BANNED FILMS APPEARED HISTORICALLY:

http://blogs.uct.ac.za/memory/2019/05/unbanned-the-films-south-africans-were-not-allowed-to-see/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16887246403296366.webp

Saturday Night at the Palace (1982): "Based on the play by Paul Slabolepsky, it is about three characters that meet at a roadhouse one night (two are white, the other is black) and during the course of the film the bubbling pot of racial hatred explodes, leaving one character dead. The black waiter (September) who works there is shortly going on leave to visit his family whom he has not seen for two years because they are forced by apartheid to live in a homeland."

Place of Weeping (1986): "directed by Darrel Roodt and produced by Anant Singh became a landmark film both for the anti-apartheid movement, and for alternative cinema in South Africa. Singh personally financed the film, and it was the first anti-apartheid motion picture to be made entirely in South Africa. Receiving worldwide acclaim, it was released theatrically in the United States and most global territories. It was also the only South African film to play on US TV channel HBO (Home Box Office)"

Mapantsula (1988): "Mapantsula, a crime film that displays black South Africans’ struggle for freedom, directed by Oliver Schmitz and written by Schmitz and Thomas Mogotlane, was banned under the Apartheid regime. The film tells the story of petty-thief Johannes ‘Panic’ Themba Mzolo"

Biko : the Spirit Lives (1988) Biograhphy of Steve Biko, a rights activist as famous as Mandela in SA.

Any Child is My Child (1988): by Barry Feinberg "focuses its attention on the brutality and suffering experienced by black children at the hands of the security forces."

Have You Seen Drum Recently? (1989): "Have You Seen Drum Recently? uses photographs from the Drum magazine archives to document its contribution to the cultural and political life of South Africa. In the 1950s, articles covered the township jazz scene, crime and sport, and documented the hopes, aspirations and despair of the urban, educated black socialites."

Sarafina! (1992): "Sarafina! revolves around students involved in the Soweto Riots. The main character, Sarafina, has to deal with her humiliation that her mother completely accepts her role as a domestic servant in a white household in Apartheid South Africa, while at the same time inspiring her fellow students to rise up and revolt."

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As you can see what these banned films all had in common was they were highly critical of the NP regime liberal films, and were all near instantly banned by the SA Censor Board, with any copies confiscated and destroyed.

I've never seen any of them, but I think you can go look for them on Youtube as they are virtually unknown. From colleagues they are not good at all, only historically significant because of their anti Union sentiments.


1984 to1985 - TAX CONCESSIONS AND B-SCHEME CORRUPTION IN SOUTH AFRICAN FILMS:

By 1984 Tax concessions for the export of films were introduced. The more spent on export, the greater the amount written off against tax. This motivated SA filmmakers to try an cater to foreign audiences, as by this time anti Union of South Africa sanctions were beginning to go in full swing, and the government had to find schemes to make money from all sorts of abnormal ways.

Additionally by 1985, the South African Censor Board had also began to relax some of its restrictions against showing films for black and coloured peeps in the country. Films of course could absolutely not show anti-government sentiment, but the production of "black feature films" (made by white producers with black actors for black audiences) reached an all time high.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16887246405127606.webp

http://blogs.uct.ac.za/memory/2020/07/a-little-known-era-of-south-african-film-the-b-scheme-industry-and-the-retro-afrika-bioscope-series/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16887246406375341.webp

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13696810903488629

Remarkably the government even went so far as to pay out a government subsidy of maximum R80 000.00, based on the number of tickets sold for 18 cents or less.

"Construction boss Tonie van der Merwe, who had provided special effects for filmmakers Louis and Elmo de Witt, spotted an untapped market, having seen the enjoyment by his black employees of the American action flicks at Saturday night screenings. He lobbied the government to set up a subsidy for the production of films for the African market. Together with Steve Hand, a teacher, he established Tugela Films in 1975. In 1981, A-Scheme films for white audiences could earn up to R1.2 million in funding, while the limit for a B-Scheme film was R80 000 and subsidies were only paid out retrospectively based on ticket sales. Van der Merwe produced some 400 titles under the scheme, including the Zulu language film Umbango (The Feud) in 1986."

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16887246408776226.webp

"To qualify for the subsidy, 75 percent of the dialogue had to be in an indigenous African language and 75 percent of the cast had to be Black. Approval of scripts was not required but the Censor Board had the final say."

Many of these B-movie films were not films at all, but bits of footage slapped together to benefit from the subsidy. There were many subsidy scandals involving cheap and conniving individuals and companies who produced 'visual diarrhea' in order to benefit financially from the government scheme. They would literally edit junk footage together in minimal effort, so in order to create the illusion of a film, and basically pocket the R80 000 gov grant after a sometimes quite literal shoestring budget just to offset any suspicions.

"Approval of scripts was not required but the Censor Board had the final say. For the predominantly inexperienced white male producers it was simply a business, so artistic merit was not a priority. Film quality suffered from poor lighting, sound and editing, minimal costume changes and recycled and excessive action scenes. Genres covered action, adventure, martial arts, cowboy, comedy, drama and the conflict between traditional and modern life but, in the end, good always triumphed over evil, and the moral of the story was that crime did not pay. In this way, apartheid ideology was promoted in the guise of entertainment; films could cover different forms of indigenous culture and traditions (often done in an offensive manner) but never address political, economic and social issues."

The SA Censor Board only ever viewed films from the eye of of a :marseyban: , so they never made any effort to judge the quality of film, any only screened these low budget shit spawn by these frauds for any pro-communist sentiment, or anti-apartheid messages. They had little interest to screen for quality.

By 1989, after years of sludge films had been aired in Black theatres, and after coloureds and blacks complained to the government, the SA Censor Board took action to investigate the quality and nature of these 'visual diarrhea' films, which were often just junk footage of black SA peeps spliced together.

http://www.movingimagearchivenews.org/a-scheme-that-made-film-flourish-amidst-apartheid/

https://openjournals.uwaterloo.ca/index.php/kinema/article/download/779/648?inline=1

https://www.jstor.org/stable/40647601

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"The way the scheme ended also has contributed. The scheme fell into disrepute due to corruption in its administration and operation. With little government oversight, and few formal cinemas, some of the recipients of B-Scheme funding inflated or simply made up attendance figures, on which funding levels were based."

“It was widely abused,” says Cowley. “Some distributors, not so much producers, would play with the numbers: They would say 1,000 people came to watch the film at this or that location, and when the investigators went there, there wasn’t even a cinema or building there.”

"Some filmmakers recycled films under different titles and claimed separate subsidies for those. In 1989, the Department of Home Affairs took over the reins of the program, stumbled on the fraud, and launched a major investigation. It could not — or did not — prosecute any film-maker or production company, nor recoup any falsely claimed monies. But, says Cowley, “going through that experience left a bitter taste.”

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Even though the Department of Home Affairs investigation didn't end these fraudulent junk films from being created, the black masses had reached an awareness of the sludge films being aired in Blacks only theatres. Word of mouth would travel between black people, between townships, and from the critiques written by black journ*lists in black-specific newspapers, on which of these B-Scheme films were junk, and which were good.

Soon only the "high-effort" films were even being viewed by black audiences, and the junk films could not even reach minimal numbers of audience retention, to qualify for the goverment grants. One of the most well like of these B-Scheme films were from Tonie Van Der Merwe, who in the very least gave substantially more effort in his production and direction than his fraudulent peers.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16887246413742323.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1688725339175028.webp


Anyways that's all I have for now, I think making smaller Longposts in 15 000 character size is the best digestible for short-attention span dramatards :marseyretard2:

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Greetings Dramastrags :marseywave2:

I was watching some utube vids last night when I came a cross a compilation of of the worst Burgerland national anthem renditions of all time :marseyseizure::marseyseizure::marseyseizure::marseyrapper::marseyrapper::marseyrapper: and it instantly brought me back to memory lane 13 years ago in 2009 when the absolute worst most atrocious version of the South African national anthem had been sung before! :marseyinsane:


So the year is 2009! On 15 November, the RSA rugby team, the Springboks :marseysa:, are facing off against the frogs :marseykermit::marseydeux: in the Test Match. It was a good season, and SA team had been doing reasonably well.

Scheduled to sing the South African anthem, was Ras Dumisani. And whoooooooooooooooooooooh boi, it was not Ayoba. Haibo boys, it was fricking KAK! A highschooler with a breaking voice would have sung it better.

https://www.iol.co.za/sport/rugby/springboks/watch-from-kurt-darren-to-ras-dumisani-the-3-times-the-sa-national-anthem-was-butchered-live-f94ac40c-651b-4cea-9f4e-ed2e2b484a50

"In 2009, Ras Dumisani was asked to sing the national anthem for South Africa before the Springboks took on hosts France, a match they would go on to lose 20-13. Though the Springboks would have been left deflated after their defeat, they certainly did not receive any inspiration before the clash from Dumisani. He struggled to hold a note and he seemed to have no idea what the anthem should actually sound like."

I remember the good old days of physical newspapers, where my father or older male family members would give me R20 each sunday for me and/or sister to go down too the cafe and buy them a newspaper, and keep the change as reward. And if there was a notable event that week, he would call us and read out loud the country's latest corruption/shenanigans. That November, the Sunday after the Test match was national drama and sneed after what was considered by the entire rainbow nation, by all of its races, by all of its physical newspapers and fledgling social media, as the absofucinglute woooorst national anthem ever sung by man's lips :marseycringe::marseycringe::marseycringe::marseycopeseethedilate::marseycopeseethedilate::marseycopeseethedilate::marseycopeseethedilate:

I remember vividly the front page Rapport afrikaans newspaper having a short and column written in the sports section, where literally NOTHING was mentioned regarding the events taken during the match, just 5 paragraphs detailing this controversy and its outlandishness. With a single fricking sentence following the drama, as if in summation: the Boks lost 20-13 :marseyxd::marseyxd::marseyxd::marseyxd: implying the kak singing was the primary cause of the lose.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/16/ras-dumisani-south-african-anthem

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1689925616350206.webp

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It was not just bad. It was not-knowing-where-to-look bad. And the man responsible is rapidly becoming public enemy number one in South Africa.

Reggae singer Ras Dumisani mauled, mutilated and murdered the national anthem in a hilariously off-key rendition before South Africa played France in a rugby international last Friday.

Some fans in Toulouse were in fits of laughter, but the Springboks players looked incredulous during the sub-karaoke wailing and later complained that it robbed them of inspiration.

Unfortunately for Dumisani, who was flanked by two bongo players, South Africa takes rugby very seriously. Outraged critics are blaming him for their team's 20-13 defeat in a heated national debate that is escalating in newspapers, radio stations and Facebook, where one group is called "Ban Ras Dumisani From Ever Singing Again" :marseylaughpoundfist::marseylaughpoundfist::marseylaughpoundfist::marseylaughpoundfist:

The South African Rugby Union has written to its French counterpart to complain :marseybeanangry::marseybeanangry::marseybeanangry: that Dumisani's tuneless attempt at Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika ("God Bless Africa" in Xhosa) was "absolutely disrespectful". This is despite his name having been on a shortlist of artists drawn up by the South African embassy in Paris.

Even politicians, normally preoccupied with crime, race and the economy, are piling in with strong opinions. The Congress of the People (remember these guys :marseycope::marseycope::marseycope:) called Dumisani's rendition a "vocal misfire", saying: "It looked as though it came right out of the blooper reel of a reality TV singing show."

The Young Communist League of South Africa said Dumisani was a "howler of note" and should sing "only in his shower". :marseyemojirofl::marseyemojirofl:

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There's a bunch of articles with lists of worst sung national anthems, but I personally believe none of the other artists can hold a candle to Ras Dumisani's bad performance, or had such a high profile public event involved.

https://www.thesouthafrican.com/sport/rugby/springboks/springboks-watch-rendition-sa-anthem-trending-breaking-monday-21-novembr-2022/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16899256165396843.webp

https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2019-04-17-watch-three-times-the-sa-national-anthem-was-mauled/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16899256167496483.webp

https://www.enca.com/life/watch-worst-anthem-blunders

You get the idea.


Here it is by the ways - Ras Dumisani sings what he believes to be his beautiful version of the South African National Anthem, before the 20-13 Test match defeat to France.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16899256169486756.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16899256170633883.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1689925617169582.webp

Lol, Schalk Burger was a rough and tough player which was memed that he started destroying the opposition whenever he wen Hulk mode

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16899256173058457.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16899256174374483.webp

Bryan Habana, perhaps the most infamous and best coloured Rugby player in all of SA history trying not to lose his shit

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16899256176007159.webp


SOME BONUS CONTENT: :lolface: SHIT KAK BURGERLAND NATIONAL ANTHEM RENDITIONS!!!!!!!!

What inspired me to absolutely have to make this post.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16899256177497513.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16899256178329473.webp

:marseygossipsmug::marseygiggle::laughing::marseylaughbothsides::marseyoperasmug:

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  • free_palestine : he should put more effort into preserving natural habitats of the species

OP is a Salzburger :marseyburger: who founded a biotech startup. For some reason he really, REALLY wants bonnetheads.

Bonnethead sharks prefer water temperatures over 70 F and make seasonal migrations to warmer waters during the winter months. During these trips, they may travel in large groups of thousands of sharks. As an example of their travels, in the U.S. they are found off the Carolinas and Georgia in the summer, and further south off Florida and in the Gulf of Mexico during the spring, fall and winter. Bonnethead sharks are considered harmless to humans. Bonnethead sharks are listed as "least concern" by the IUCN Red List, which says that they have one of "highest population growth rates calculated for sharks" and that despite fishing, the species is abundant. These sharks may be caught for display in aquariums and used for human consumption and for making fishmeal.

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Pics:

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Three years later, jannies start putting disclaimers and lock the thread:

Hey everyone! This may seem like a cool build, but I'd like to provide some info that will hopefully make you think twice when encouraging this practice.

OP is planning on stocking his tank with a species known as the bonnethead shark, Sphyrna tiburo. These sharks frequently fall victim to becoming bycatch in several fisheries in parts of the Atlantic ocean, and as a result they have recently been placed on the IUCN red list of endangered species following a 2019 stock assessment.

Although OP claims he's getting them from a breeder, he's been historically reluctant to give out any details. There are professional aquarists that have gone on record stating how difficult breeding these sharks can be, even at well-equipped commercial facilities, due to the tendency for parents to rapidly eat their young after birth. This comment reveals that he has to wait for a "breeding season" to obtain his sharks. I further reached out to the shark "breeder", Shark Supply LLC in Florida, and they also confirmed they're captive BORN sharks, not bred. This means he is encouraging removing endangered shark pups from a place where they otherwise could have contributed to population numbers.

Unfortunately, many threatened species are able to be captured in states like Florida with permits, so although unethical this is currently perfectly legal.

OP has also stated that he blocks anyone who opposes or questions this build, even if done in a civil manner. He has also repeatedly denied that this species is endangered, even when provided with sources pointing to the contrary. There are some comment threads in his posts that indicate he has little personal knowledge of his own filtration equipment or shark care.

I ask that people don't upvote and support a person capturing an endangered species for his private enjoyment, especially one who has little knowledge of their care, ignores alternative opinions, and actively seeks to craft his own echo-chamber of yes-men. There are many alternative choices for stocking this aquarium in its current form, as many have already suggested.

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Users start crying about animal abuse:

Since /r/aquariums doesn’t care about animal abuse:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Aquariums/comments/relv94/update_on_my_11_000_gallon_shark_tank_applying/hoaered/?context=3&sort=controversial

Hey everyone! This may seem like a cool build, but I'd like to provide some info that will hopefully make you think twice when encouraging this practice.

OP is planning on stocking his tank with a species known as the bonnethead shark, Sphyrna tiburo. These sharks frequently fall victim to becoming bycatch in several fisheries in parts of the Atlantic ocean, and as a result they have recently been placed on the IUCN red list of endangered species following a 2019 stock assessment.

Although OP claims he's getting them from a breeder, he's been historically reluctant to give out any details. There are professional aquarists that have gone on record stating how difficult breeding these sharks can be, even at well-equipped commercial facilities, due to the tendency for parents to rapidly eat their young after birth. This comment reveals that he has to wait for a "breeding season" to obtain his sharks. I further reached out to the shark "breeder", Shark Supply LLC in Florida, and they also confirmed they're captive BORN sharks, not bred. This means he is encouraging removing endangered shark pups from a place where they otherwise could have contributed to population numbers.

Unfortunately, many threatened species are able to be captured in states like Florida with permits, so although unethical this is currently perfectly legal.

OP has also stated that he blocks anyone who opposes or questions this build, even if done in a civil manner. He has also repeatedly denied that this species is endangered, even when provided with sources pointing to the contrary. There are some comment threads in his posts that indicate he has little personal knowledge of his own filtration equipment or shark care.

I ask that people don't upvote and support a person capturing an endangered species for his private enjoyment, especially one who has little knowledge of their care, ignores alternative opinions, and actively seeks to craft his own echo-chamber of yes-men. There are many alternative choices for stocking this aquarium in its current form, as many have already suggested.

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the sharks alone in there is abusive, but at the same time this guy blocks anyone who shares info on why this is horrible (endangered species, not enough room) so i wouldn't be surprised if he adds something else equally dumb

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what kind of sharks are they?

Bonnethead sharks multiple endangered species sharks.

and their all going to a torture chamber of a tank for no reason


Lmao

Speaking of this… When you have giant butt sharks… how the frick do you clean the tank if you don’t have anywhere to move them into while you’re in there???

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OP decides to stop posting on /r/aquariums and starts looking at a different shark species. Just two more years buddy :marseysal2:

No, the current plan is not bonnet heads, as they have become very expensive. I would have gotten them from a breeder, so the cites (new endangerd classification) would not have been a problem, but I have decided against them. Going for a different type of small shark now. There is a small type of White tip... But for now I am slowly stocking it with small fish and when I know the tank is stable bigger ones will be socked... at some stage the sharks will be able to move in.. but that will still take a long time.

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His wife got bored of pole dancing LOL

Pole is for my wife's abandoned sport... :(

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