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Why you should always be skeptical when "but the children" is used in a political context.

Recently a resident r-slur here has posted a picture of me saying the rightoid obsession with drag and gays has absolutely nothing to do with children. This is confusing to me as it pretty clearly doesn't - but then it dawned on me, a lot of people here don't actually know anything about American politics or the rhetorical cowtools used by conservatives and libtards alike as a trojan horse for questionable policy.

In the case of rightoids it's more so that they know the things they believe are truly awful and unpalatable to much of society, so whenever given the chance they'll shield whatever religious drivel they're spewing in the language of virtue - "what about the children."

This allows them to dismiss any criticism of the things they're saying and flip it on their opponents - often with p-do smears or "why do you hate children" or whatever else is swirling around the rightoid fever swamp at the time.

You see - p-do serves a similar purpose as "nazi" does for leftoids. Unquestionably "nazi" is the worst thing someone can be in the western world, but rightoids have an uneasy relationship with "nazi" given how many nazis keep popping up in rightoid spheres, and republicans want to keep "nazi" out of the mainstream discourse - so in comes the p-do smear. Ironically, a popular smear used by nazis in weimar Germany as well (not calling republicans nazis, but it is interesting that rightoids historically have favored the p-do smear.)

If you spew awful things about drag, :!marseytrain:s, or gays that's not a good look, even the most awful of magatards know it isn't a good look, so it needs to be wrapped in something else before they sell it to the general public. That's where "p-do" and "what about the children" enters. this way they can sanitize their horrible and more often than not factually incorrect drivel as a virtuous quest to protect children.

American politicians have been doing this for ages, a relevant chapter from a popular book:

"Regardless of who leads it, the professional-class liberalism I have been describing in these pages seems to be forever traveling on a quest for some place of greater righteousness. It is always engaged in a search for some subject of overwhelming, noncontroversial goodness with which it can identify itself and under whose umbrella of virtue it can put across its self-interested class program.

There have been many other virtue-objects over the years: people and ideas whose surplus goodness could be extracted for deployment elsewhere. The great virtue-rush of the 1990s, for example, was focused on children, then thought to be the last word in overwhelming, noncontroversial goodness. Who could be against kids? No one, of course, and so the race was on to justify whatever your program happened to be in their name. In the course of Hillary Clinton's 1996 book, It Takes a Village, the favorite rationale of the day—think of the children!—was deployed to explain her husband's crime bill as well as more directly child-related causes like charter schools.

You can find dozens of examples of this kind of liberal-class virtue-quest if you try, but instead of listing them, let me go straight to the point: This is not politics. It's an imitation of politics. It feels political, yes: it's highly moralistic, it sets up an easy melodrama of good versus bad, it allows you to make all kinds of judgments about people you disagree with, but ultimately it's a diversion, a way of putting across a policy program while avoiding any sincere discussion of the policies in question. The virtue-quest is an exciting moral crusade that seems to be extremely important but at the conclusion of which you discover you've got little to show for it besides NAFTA, bank deregulation, and a prison spree."

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Why do you hate children

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most children are a waste of resources, specifically rural children.

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Ruraloid children are the most efficient children as they are used for labour that would instead be wasted on machines.

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Nihilist soybug antinatalism :yawn:

Glad I didn't waste :marseyboognish: time reading :marseyhijab: OP

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:#lowqualitybait:

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What'd they ever do for me?

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One of them became you.

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:#marseyboar:

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This just in:

>Pizza wants to groom children

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If he supports groomers grooming the children, then those children might stay unemployed and on rdrama/groomercord forever. This means pizza won't have young upstarts gunning for his entry level job.

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>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST SHOW PICTURES OF DRAG QUEENS TO DISCREDIT DRAG QUEENS

:soycry: :marseysoycry: :donkeykongdrag:

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I haven't read this and won't, but we should definitely keep kids away from :marseypizzashill:'s influence for everyone's sake. !enemiesofpizzashill

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You should read it, it's probably really good


https://i.rdrama.net/images/17270378440055554.webp

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:#marseypepe2:

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But polti:marseytrain2:s are actually p-do themed and infested, and want to mangle and poison and groom children. This isn't really a conspiracy. What about the videos of the drag performers shaking their peepees at kids and that Desmond is amazing kid dancing for money - is that not creepy.

I'm a big supporter of gays and :!marseytrain:s, and yours, but, are you really denying the :marseytrain: menace?

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I'm skeptical they are, to be clear. I can find thousands of examples of male pedos, so it's weird to me the p-do smear interest is so focused on :marseytrain2:s, and not males in general, is it not?

And we saw Republicans happily vote for an admitted p-dophile in alabama, so the concern doesn't seem to be about p-dophiles, and their interest exists insofar as they can use it politically.

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The fact that over 50% of :marseytrain:s in the UK prison system are locked up for s*x crimes IMO does say a lot and potentially points to a larger issue/phenomenon. I think the total number of :marseytrain:s in the system is something like 120-150, not an incredible sample size, but still, that stat is shocking and should at least make someone do a double take.

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Is there any actual proof of this? and how does that compare to the baseline rate?

Are all s*x crimes related to children?

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>Is there any actual proof of this?

Brother you can look it up yourself, I ain't doing that research AGAIN, just for you, for free :marseyindignant:

>how does that compare to the baseline rate?

If you think that over half of men locked up in the UK are s*x criminals, then :marseymeds:

>Are all s*x crimes related to children?

I doubt it; I know that that's what the thread is about :marseytransrentfree: but if we gotta resort to that line of reasoning vis a vis the vast majority of :marseytrain:s in the UK prison system being s*x pests, then I think you've already admitted da:marseyfeet: on this :marseyteehee:

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Living out their sexual fetish in public with activsts and politicians encouraging them probably had a significant influence.

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Is this the moids are degens globally who frick children, therefore :marseytrain2:s shaking their peepees at kids and kids petting piss fetish dog costumers and dancing like strippers - all out in the open and cheered in by their parents - that doesn't mean anything, cause thirdies r*pe little girls in the open?

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https://media.tenor.com/Bc9kVLdDcHgAAAAx/bart-simpson.webp

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I didn't read any of what you said but I knew the drag scene before it became political and its completely different now than what it was before. The only people trying to normalize drag are massive cute twinks with "frick you dad" issues or pedos.

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This would be so insightful if strags and :!marseytrain:s weren't molesting kids at like 10,000 times the base rate

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Wasn't that kind of obvious? It's always a very vulnerable group (children) to be protected or a very aggressive group (terrorists) to be stopped.

Those arguments are then used to try to push a law which then will be affect normal people.

You are almost there realizing this is a strat used by every side. But the American two-party brainworm has gotten to you to :/

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>tfw normal people aren't allowed to walk around with their peepee out

:#marseyropewithme:

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can you not read?

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Learn to edit, not reading any of that. However, "for the children" is nothing but a naked emotional appeal to get others to agree on issue X when you don't want come out and say what your real position on issue X is. Parties do it all the time. Stop drag shit for the children = these fricking gays are weird and icky; ban guns for the children = we don't like guns so maybe saying for the children will be more palatable.

Learning to be skeptical or use inductive reasoning is the critical skill set people need. That's all.

PS - Learn the phrase "it'd have been shorter if I had more time."

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>what about the children

You know who thinks about the children the most? P-dophiles.

Whenever people say "think of the children" what they are actually saying is "become a p-dophile".

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I only think of children when I see them at the grocery store and they wave :marseywave3: to me and I wave back :marseywave2:. If children don't wave to you at the store, does that mean they know youre a bad person? :marseythinkorino:

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Yikes pizza. Stop talking about children's butt's

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tldr

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This, but also: "but the women"


:#marseydisintegrate: :!#marseyflamewar::space::!marseyagree:

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yes, "but the women" is another example of the virtue quest. you even saw rightoids deploy it in relation to immigration and they still do it to this day, they cover their nativist and anti-immigrant arguments in appeals to "protecting women."

The Donald even did it for gays during the 2016 election.

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true! it's never going to stop though

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Hillary Clinton's 1996 book, It Takes a Village

Redactor fans will know this as I mention it constantly. :marseyboomer:

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