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Rejoice, Destiny viewers, it seems that finally we have reached the end of Lav and MrGirl appearing on stream.
I'm gonna be honest and say I'm straight up not watching this. It's pretty gay and 80 different multihour streams. More than a few tangentially related content creators are jumping in with to give their hot takes via live reviewing stuff and I just do not care enough to watch the primary sources let alone the content vultures.
From what I can tell, this starts with an hour-and-a-half stream by MrGirl (often referred to as Max) on Twitter (because he's banned everywhere else lol)
https://x.com/mrgirlreturns/status/1590909109087633408
From what I can tell, he announces he will be investigating former friend and Youtube streamer Destiny over sexual misconduct allegations (that he created) via messaging every woman Destiny has talked to on Groomercord. At some point Destiny says he has actually been contacted by a number of these women who are rightfully a little skeeved out by a streamer who has been repeatedly been accused of being a p-dophile (pretty much the entirety of MrGirl's KF thread is related to this) contacting them asking about their sexual history. It shoudl also be noted that MrGirl is one of those "I'm an empath and can tell you are lying about you deepest thoughts and actually you're a p-do too"/"You said I'm wrong, but sincce I"m an empath you're gaslamping me and we both know I'm right and you're unable to admit it" types. One of the contacted women, Ana, is a more than a little mentally unstable foid who has previously had a multi-month long meltdown about Destiny ghosting her or something.
Here's here DMs with Destiny where she says even MrGirl is insane and trying to convince people they were sexually abused by Steven Bonnell II.
You may notice they're referencing an additional person, Lav. Lav is an on-again-off-again OnlyFans girl and Twitch/Youtube streamer. Her biggest claim to fame is jumping into every single Destiny stream she can to cloutfarm, claiming all s*x work is evil, then going back on it the next day and reopening her OnlyFans. I think her current stance is "All s*x work is bad and evil, but I do s*x education, which is different and good!" She's so hated for being annoying and inserting herself into things that Destiny's subreddit has begun a "campaign against misogyny" to combat people who vocally hate her the wrong way. Destiny's subreddit has also come together to build a list of random contractions she's said or done and just generally how stupid she is.
Around the same time that MrGirl's stream on Twitter goes live, Destiny decides he needs to address the situation on stream. The actual stream is unlisted but still on his channel, but I'm going to link the curated and titled video since it's less likely to get taken down.
The video also, I assume, will give more context, but I'm not watching 2 hours and 40 minutes right now.
Lav, the OnlyFans and streamer girl from earlier, reveals that the only reason she knows and really got included in Destiny's stream is they had some sort of sexual encounter, implied to be he ate her out. She also decides that getting eaten out, then invited on stream, and later hated for being an r-slur is equal to Harvey Weinstein. Very quickly, she runs this back to "I don't like how mean he was."
Around this time, Destiny-adjacent streamer ChudLogic goes live with an interview with MrGirl's girlfriend.
Again, haven't watched, but some backstory is according to MrGirl, she is by and large not allowed on stream or something because he doesn't want her to get hurt by the Internet. She also is not allowed to have a phone (this was later walked back as a joke). At some point there was a lot of drama surrounding MrGirl wanting to have a s*x doll and her not being okay with it and crying in one of his videos about it.
By now, both MrGirl's subreddit and Destiny's are in full meltdown, so let's take a look at both. While both are more than a little cult-y, MrGirl's is a lot more so, especially due to the previously mentioned "I'm an empath who is always right" stuff. I'll try to go through these somewhat chronologically, but I'm just going by hours ago posted, not the actual timestamp.
"I didn't allude to him being a Harvey Weinsten... but if the shoe fits..."
Thank you for cancelling misogyny, Destiny!
Destiny has previously gone to bat for Lav saying she's just figuring out life because she's young (true to some extent). Hoisted by his own petard
The Levels shit this guy is talking about is in relation to another femoid streamer who categorizes people's personalities into levels and tries to tell people how to live their life or something. Unsurprisingly, she also has some sort of OnlyFans thing. Coomer streamers smh.
holy shit. Nuke him Destiny. Max just leaked destiny s*x life details live on air.
Finally, a thread with some good cope and argument threads
There is an alternative read of the situation: that Ana is only manageable and able to be dealt with when she's romantically linked with Destiny in some fashion.
Actually lmao
Why do you think you're entitled to know who his s*x partners are? He wasn't gaslamping anybody. He told us he and Anna were chill and had no problems anymore, every time her name came up.
Guess who is upmarseyd!
He was literally creepy AF immediately — second time on Destiny’s stream: “I’m your friend. I’m going to be your close friend. I will never betray you.” Then quickly escalating to “I love you. You gave me my career you saved me.” 🚩🚩🚩🚩
This actually happened and everyone thought it was normal and wholesome chungus.
Just another multipage thread of fighting.
Darn, Max is actually a horrible person.
Normal relationship btw
Here is some threads about him from this subreddit I googled.
good post btw
Actually if you look at it in another light, it could be that the constant/sporadic contact has been the the only thing keeping her sane.
"Clearly the streamer I like is the one who can do no wrong."
Remember the “I will never betray you, Steven”? The nauseating love proclamations?
[...] Most manipulators want to make it seem like you are the one that's crazy. Max was always very willing to be like "I am very weird, and I require a lot of translation to be understood." It's almost like reverse-gaslamping.
lol
and I thought I was a simp sometimes.
cucked by a manlet
According to this comment, her husband is the CMO of Ridge Wallets LMAOOOO
Queen Brittany Simon has been vindicated! Pay your respects at her altar or have your bubble popped.
Finally, we can simp for the other weird empath.
MELINA VS LAV MAKES 10000% MORE SENSE NOW
open relationships rarely work this long term, especially with younger couples who are yet to have children (in Melina's case). Melina is only getting older and being with someone for this long triggers her evolutionary baby making response, even if it will end up being a manlet.
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Destiny actually deserves to be called out even if he's well within his "OPEN" relationship parameters.
nahhhh
cope cope cope
brainblast
Remember when Mr. Girl was going in on Destiny for not trusting him? What a skeezy little frick
This thread seems to have the most back and forth arguments
Uh-oh, time to defend empath daddy.
Okay, I'm officially bored of writing this, so we're gonna speed through a few threads:
Finally, Destiny himself chimes in.
Even Brianna Wu makes an appearance to take a "rare W"
EFFORT POST: The DGG'ers Guide on How to Refute Max's Claims a.k.a. the ultimate cope/wagon circling post!
Now from MrGirl's subreddit. Check these threads for maximum angry:
Nice job Max, you called Destiny a friend and pulled this stunt?
I feel like Destiny looks pretty weak muting Max and then doing an hour long hit piece retracting good faith he extended before like calling Max a male feminist and serial abuser. His infantilizing of Shaelin especially after Chud's stream was also pretty disgusting. I'm waiting to see what Max says.
Male feminist is a new one, I haven't heard that allegation yet. Shit moves so fast nowadays.
Written like a schizo virgin. If someone said any body shaming shit about Max I bet you'd cry about it.
body shaming shit about Max
Sorry, but is there a non-"terminally online" version of what you're trying to say here? Unlike you, I haven't watched every second of Max' long library, so I can't just decode the random stuff your clouded mind introduces as common knowledge. In normal decorum, with sane people that posses a functioning theory of mind rather crippling autism, there is usually an expectation of a certain level of mutual communication that doesn't involve cryptic messaging in the form of schizophrenic and highly niche inside jokes, you see. And you normally shape your message in a way that it doesn't appear as garbled gibberish to an uninitiated recipient who is not apart of your tragic little echo chamber...I know, I know... this is a lot for you to process... but every person you engage with on this or Destiny's sub doesn't obsessively study and absorb every twist and turn in the dramas and you shouldn't take it for granted that everyone is as, lets say... "involved", as you are.
dab dab dab dab
I don't know why people are arguing under this one lol
Destiny sexting anna is the most abusive shit i have ever heard
Mr Male feminist lol
oh how the turn tables.
Destiny ends Max manifesto with a counter-accusation #SaveShaelin
You told Steven he could trust you. You told him you would never hurt him. Now you’re poisoning the well against him. You’re a horrible friend. You’re a manipulator. And you deserve all the banning and loneliness you get.
mrgirl, your not the person you said you were, and this is saddening.
Sexting an ex that you've made up with isn't a crime
Frick yourself Max, you fricking weirdo. The day I stop hearing about you can't come soon enough.
Here's another Destiny-adjacent streamer going over stuff (5 hour stream in 2 parts)
And here's the @autodrama thread from earlier today: https://rdrama.net/post/122194/mrgirl-is-absolutely-in-the-right
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Babe wake-up, (not actually) new anti mayo slur just dropped
Terms to Know
Haole - Translates to "sharkbait" and is a term used by native Hawaiians to describe mayos. Doesn't have to be degeratory but it can be
PoA (People of Aloha) - Any native/local Hawaiian
Anuhea the lolcow
Meet Anuhea Nihipali, our star lolcow of the thread. Anuehea is a native born Person of Aloha (PoA) who has amassed a following of over half a million on her tiktok due to her social activism and her "comedy". You may actually recognize her from this infamous tiktok:
. Her online career alone could be it's own effortpost, but to keep things short here's a summary of some of her defining characteristics:
Being a foid that is constantly posting lewds, and then going onto complaing about being sexualized
She is a part of the LGBT. With her pronouns being they/them, and being a bisexual
Neurodivergent to the point where she doesn't understand sarcasm
Terminally online
Social justice activist and leftist(?)
Person of Aloha
Now I want you to keep the last two points in the back of your head because those are going to be the most important aspects from here on out.
Blood and Sand Nationalism
In a previous post I made, I linked to drama revolving around what I have termed "Tiki nationalists". Tiki nationalists are often younger native Hawaiians who have adopted a "blood and sand" ideology in which they believe that the haoles unjustly stole and annexed Hawaii from them and that their native population has a blood right to their own land free of outside invaders (mostly haoles). Hhhmm I wonder where I've heard that before?
A majority of the seethe that comes from tiki nationalists arises from the mere existence of the haoles. Tiki nationalists can be often found in expressing their hate for the subhuman haole all over twitter:
Our lolcow, Anuhea would fall underneath this term. A majority of her social activism comes from sneeding about how haoles are terrible racists and how much she hates Amerikkka for denying Hawaii it's sovereignty. Anuehea expressed this sentiment:
Which judging by the queen comment makes me think that she's a monarchist .
Anuehea has also had interactions with other lefty lolcows like Hasan Piker . Where she criticized Hasan for wearing a Hawaiian shirt to Coachella:
Leftist purity testing is always a treat to witness . Now after reading all this you probably have the following question in your head:
Spoilers:
Nonetheless, that's enough background infomation so let's get to the drama
Naked Bodies aren't for your pleasure sweaty
Weirdly enough our drama started a couple weeks ago, when someone on a boat with famous capeshit actor Jason Momoa posted this video of him fishing while almost naked:
is how most people on twitter reacted to the video. Keyword being most.
Eventually, the video circulated onto Tiki nationalist twitter, and the outrage began. The pearl clutching began with Anuhea posting this tweet:
maybe if you see someone in cultural clothing you shouldn’t start sexualizing them
The audacity of these people to sexualize an almost naked man . People not understanding Anuhea's outrage attempt to provide a common sense response for what probably happened:
But this reasoning is unacceptable to Anuhea. She responds by posting the nonsensical caption of the video, implying most people should understand that the rag Jason is wearing is indigenous clothing
The previous person correctly points out most people don't even read:
I'm truly going to doubt that people even read the caption
While most people would accept this as a valid answer, it wasn't enough for Anuhea. She comes back the next day with a short novel of tweets:
Anuhea proclaims that haoles are too stupid to see the problem and refuse to educate themselves. She goes on to say how she's angry at the world that the rslurred haoles don't take her peoples problems seriously.
The haole chuds of twitter begin to make fun of her for being a haole:
Wanting to educate people against their will is a colonizer stance. checkmate.
I may have c*m on my face but you're still white
Anuhea being the terminally online checkmark she is continues to double down and call out the haoles for being racist savages:
Chuds start pulling up pictures of Anuhea's mom to make fun of her mixed race genetics:
Another PoA named Maddie shows up to defend Anuhea, saying that this is the exception to rule:
Maddie continues to peepeeride for Anuhea by constantly arguing with haole chuds.
The building pressure gets to Anuhea, and leads her to posting this bold claim in a now deleted tweet:
Unfortunately for Anuhea, this claim wasn't true and led to her sperg out getting more mainstream attention. A twitter user named River posted this tweet laughing at Anuhea:
People hanging onto the margin of error on their 23andMe like their life depends on it
The tweet blows up and people begin to point at laugh at Anuhea. This pisses of the tiki nationalists and they begin to dig through Rivers twitter profile for any dirt on him and come across these leaked DMs between River and a person with Bart Simpson as their profile picture:
Apparently River was talking to another person on twitter and was so enamored by said person that he performed a c*m tribute onto his own face to show his love. River claims these pictures are fake, but I reject this narrative and choose to believe its real.
PoA continue to pile on River claiming he's a stupid fricking chud for dismissing Anuhea ancestry and using "blood quantum theory":
Anuhea subtweets the c*m caked haole by saying:
Island Traitor
There's a lot going on with the racial purity testing and c*m tributes, but if you're big brained you'll remember that all of this drama kicked off with the video of Jason Momoa fishing naked on a boat, and tiki nationalists defending him from the culture less haoles that sexualized him.
Unfortunately for the tiki nationalists, Jason Momoa leans further into the haole fetishization and did this on Jimmy Kimmel last night:
This causes the tide turn against Jason Momoa, as tiki nationalists unknown to him are appalled by this degenerate act and begin to recant their support for him:
This news eventually makes it way to Anuhea who is devastated by the act, and doesn't understand why he would do such a thing after she adamantly defended him on twitter. In a series of tweets she writes:
Literally went balls to the wall defending and trying to redirect the horrible online attention he was receiving. Now look. This is so embarrassing for him and it shits on every Hawaiian who tried to stand up for our culture a few weeks ago.
I was being dragged on anti indigenous accounts and teased for blood quantum and being called horrible things just to have him go and do this. Its so fricking embarrassing for everyone involved
Slap fights begin to occur, when haoles take issue with Anuhea calling Jason a pick me. Anuhea proceeds to call the haole ignorant:
The fight continues with Anuhea claiming a greater understanding of Hawaiian culture than Jason Momoa, proclaiming if was actually educated he wouldn't have done this:
… I doubt that his knowledge outweighs mine bc if it did he wouldn’t do this bubs
Or his opinion on it differs from yours..
The haole still not understanding why this is even issue, receives this reply from an outside observer:
You don’t understand, there’s no such thing as having fun when you’re Hawaiian.
The twitter thread further devolves into r-sluration with PoA trying to find any loophole that would allow them reject Jason from their Hawaiian bloodline:
Born here and has indigenous blood, just grew up in Iowa with his mother. He’s Hawaiian regardless of diaspora.
Others PoA take different approach and claim that he was corrupted by (((Hollywood))):
All while this is occurring, haole chuds are having fun laughing at the tiki nationalist pearl clutching:
This but unironically
Funny to me that you mad at aqua man when you literally dressed up like a cow and put thirst trap pictures up. Surfs up dude.
Unable to reach the minds of haoles, Anuhea once again attempts to lecture and berate the uneducated haoles. Because if it didn't make the first time, surely it'll work the second time:
This is where our story ends (for now ). If you made it this far, thanks for reading and I hope you enjoyed it. Im sure we'll get to see more drama from the tiki nationalists community in the near future. They always seem to be complaining about something lol. Enjoy your weekend kings!
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Megathreads
Apparently CNN will have a live covering of the midterms here in a few hours, not sure if it helps anyone: https://edition.cnn.com/election/2022
/r/politics megathread: https://old.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/ypjn8u/discussion_thread_2022_midterm_general_election/
/r/politics live thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/ypsbya/rpolitics_2022_midterm_live_thread/
/r/news megathread: https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/ypivkd/2022_midterm_elections_megathread_plus_important/
/r/2XChromosones massive thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/ypjkkt/vote_today_vote_for_the_rights_to_our_own_bodies/
For some reason the degenerate gamblers have their own megathread: https://old.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/ypkdt6/midterms_megathread_2022/
/r/collapse megathread: https://old.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/ypbpof/megathread_us_2022_elections_discussion_and/
Smaller threads
Posted earlier but I moved it here to keep the post at least slightly organized
Election Night Is Going to Take All Week. That’s Democracy at Work
I don't care much about rightoid accusations that the election was stolen but it's impossible to not go when seeing these titles
How are democrats so good at shooting themselves in the foot, seriously?
Teacher Allegedly Bites Wayne County GOP Chairwoman During Rally For Tudor Dixon (R-MI)
lmao
Election 2022: 20% of Maricopa County polling locations reporting voting issues, officials say
Maricopa is at it again!
Rightoids really like their LARP, don't they?
Redditors react
Congratulations on those voting today in what are possibly the last free elections in America.
Props to the Democrats for letting it happen on their watch in the naive belief that the GOP still values democracy, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
Imagen voting for the party that is pro stripping womens rights
That supports denying LGBTQ healthcare and basic human rights
Imagen being that trash of a human being
I can't Imagen looking at a party like that and saying they are the best option
the question is where? I'm thinking of leaving my country where our kind of republicans in in power for 10 years and the question is where to go? I speak English as a second language, but in case you haven't noticed, the living standard and situation in countries that speak English as a native language has gone pretty much to shit, and not one of them is particularly suitable for a comfortable mid class living anymore.
USA - capitalism won. whoever is in power, the prices will rise and housing is too expensive, healthcare and education only for the rich, streets are PvP, racial war in progress, civil war incoming.
Canada - winter, housing is incredibly expensive, winter, uncapable government that is eroding living standard you want to escape from will result in the right probably getting in power power soon and then it will probably be USA v2.0 only with shitty climate.
UK - they shot themselves in the head, unliveable in the forecastable future
South Africa - yeah, right, I'll pass
Gibraltar, Malta - N/A
Australia - everything is out to kill you, rising housing and living costs, unfriendly to immigrants, also crisis
New Zealand - most expensive housing in the world, yes Shire is there, but also Mordor, maybe paradise for rich, but not enough housing and jobs for the immigrant mid class
Are you serious? The Republican party platform in Texas alone, explicitly includes: claiming the 2020 presidential election was fraudulent, holding a referendum on secession next year, abolishing gay marriage, advocacy for an official state position that homosexuality is an "abnormal lifestyle choice", abolition of no-fault divorce, removing law school as a requirement for attorneys, abolishing all federal agencies, opposing all pandemic measures including contact tracing, declassified carbon dioxide as a pollutant, supporting school faculty (state employees) delivering religious messaging, repeal of minimum wage laws, repeal of Dodd-Frank, repeal of Sarbanes-Oxley, abolishing the Endangered Species Act, and labeling evolution and climate change specifically as challengable scientific theories for the purposes of education. And that's just some of it.
Every election feels like a near miss on the US’ democracy. Today is no different. Radicalized right wingers trying desperately to take governorships. State and federal senate and house seats. Supreme Court positions, and even school counsels.
If you don’t vote today, you’re complicit. Like the German in the 1940’s who thought everything was overblown until he saw his a neighboring Jewish family he’d known for decades drug into the streets with their adolescent children and thrown in the back of a wagon, never to be seen again.
If you don’t think it could happen again, that it could happen here, they’ve already defeated you.
In Ohio - voted for my new husband, for my dogs and cats, for my fellow Americans saddened by the state of affairs, for my friends in the other side of the aisle too ignorant to know they’re darning their own futures.
Let’s hope. Only after we vote though — vote, vote, vote, then hope.
What are the odds the R’s appoint Trump as speaker of the house and then impeach everyone?
I really wanna know why smart people vote republican
Are they are only thinking about their own lives
Do they sreslly not care about anyone else but themselves
Maybe I'm strange but I could not vote for s party I knew would do things like ban abortion take away gay marriage make it legal to abuse LGBTQ kids
I couldn't see myself as a good person and vote for that party
One thing to note is that this will be the first federal election since COVID vaccines and boosters came out.
I try to make a point of sitting down with each question on a ballet and researching it as best I can ahead of voting but every time a voting day comes up I wish I’d spent more time on it.
Also I’ve been listening to people all around blithely give snap opinions on the way they’re voting after hearing a surface level explanation of the issues skewed by whoever is talking and it having not taken the time to look it up ahead.
Imagine doing homework every time you vote
this fricking complete dunce being interviewed on CNN is like 'i'm glad people have different opinions'
Dear America,
I'm hearing Republicans plan to turn you into a fascist theocracy today. Allow me to remark that scares me a bit. I sincerely hope your decent citizens go out in droves today to vote for Democratic candidates. May they find the strength to lift their lazy asses and vote blue no matter who. The past nearly two years have been a much-needed return to stability and normalcy. Even if the pandemic had noticeable consequences for everyday life until early this year and there is no end in sight to the largest war on this continent since 1945.
Many of us would appreciate if that stability and normalcy could be turned into a long-term thing.
Vote
Dear timeMag, fo. Instead of spreading FEARMONGERING for clickstm , why not publish slogans that give courage, such as, “We have nothing to fear, but fear itself”. You know, sacrifice a few clicks/$00.0000001 and give Democracy a boost instead.
Frick yeah. "Look, neither party represents me" or "divided government is best" or "I'm just tired of the all the fighting, why can't people compromise".
B-word, one party openly runs candidates calling for me to be fricking executed. What the frick compromise am I supposed to be for? "Let's just jail all the LGBTQ folks?"
Voted yes on my state proposal to enshrine rights. Both of us, like a month ago by mail.
Calling it now: win or lose today, Fetterman will win the 2024 presidential election.
Imagine a party destroying people’s rights and taking abortion rights away and threatening fundamental rights and destroying the planet and still voting for them because “mUh gAs pRiceS” and “BrEad tOo eXpEnsiVe.”
Hope having cheaper food and more gas to destroy the environment is worth it 🙄
Occasionally, chuds find their way in blue ecochambers...
"We won’t know all the midterm results on election night. That’s normal."
Why are they rigging the election results again? Isnt that proof of fraud enough?
Ah yes, gotta look out for all those GOP riots we've seen throughout history...
MSNBC tomorrow - "This was the most corrupt election in American history. Democracy is dead."
Finally, some rightoid seethe!
Can't add more text, hope you guys liked it!
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carp has finally worn me down with his r-slurred privating shenanigans - this is my first post Give DC plz so I can start gambling like the cool kids!
Preamble
Sumo has always been a god-tier sport for drama llamas, but in recent years it has gotten extra spicy with:
The slow eroding of traditional social norms of "dignified behaviour"
Increased media coverage & social media exposing everything that would normally be hushed up
A spicy ethnonationalist angle as non-Japanese wrestlers have started to excel at the sport, which causes terminal butthurt amongst Japanese fans.
Although there are a few American champions, and a handful of players from all over (including Ōsunaarashi Kintarō, the first African wrestler), the #1 chad foreigners in Sumo are Mongolians, who absolutely destroy the local Japanese 99% of the time and cause gigaseethe throughout the country because not only are they insanely good at sumo wrestling, they also get drunk and fight random people in public and insult other wrestlers wives and such .
In 1992, following the entry of six Mongolians to Ōshima stable, there was an unofficial ban (called enryo or "restraint") instigated by the Japan Sumo Association's head Dewanoumi on any more foreign recruitment.[4] Speaking at a Western Japan Press Club luncheon in Osaka in 1995, Dewanoumi reportedly said, "There are no official regulations, but stable masters have a tacit agreement not to scout foreigners actively because they have difficulty adapting to Japanese customs."[5]
Fun fact to make Japanese people sneed:
By 2013, foreign born wrestlers made up just seven percent of the 613 wrestlers active in professional sumo, yet occupied one third of the 42 spots in the top division.[7] No Japanese-born wrestler won a top division tournament between Tochiazuma in January 2006 and Kotoshōgiku in January 2016, with 56 of the 58 tournaments held in that period won by Mongolians.[8]
DESPITE
The Incident
During a regional tournament circuit, Mongolian gigachad and reigning yokozuna (the highest possible sumo rank) Haramufuji was drinking with some other Mongolian wrestlers, including junior wrestler Takanoiwa Yoshimori. Apparently our hero was trying to explain to the youngster that he should be more polite, when the kept playing with his phone.
did the only reasonable thing in the situation, and beat Takanoiwa so hard that in the days afterwards there were conflicting reports that he had been attacked with:
Haramufuji's bare hands
A beer bottle
An ice pick
An ash tray
Full report (from: https://tachiai.org/2017/12/20/update-on-harumafuji-scandal-ydc-nsk-special-meetings-and-report/ ):
Takanoiwa, thinking that Hakuho has finished his lecture, started to play with his phone. Harumafuji saw that, got annoyed, and asked “Why are you playing with your phone when the dai-yokozuna is talking to you?”. This was apparently also in Mongolian. Takanoiwa first denied he was playing with it, then said “I got a LINE message”. Harumafuji asked “Is that important? Who is it from?”. Eventually Takanoiwa said “It’s from my girlfriend”.
Harumafuji hit him once, on the face.
Takanoiwa said “sorry”, but Harumafuji thought he was giving him a defiant stare. So he hit him on the head and face several times with his bare hands, asking “Why are you behaving like that? I was protecting you earlier! Are you trying to be smart with Yokozuna?“.
He picked up a bottle of Champagne and made as if he would beat Takanoiwa with it, but it slipped and fell without harming anybody.
Hakuho, watching Harumafuji, said aloud “Don’t use any objects”. As soon as Harumafuji started using the remote control, he stepped in to stop the beating and took Harumafuji outside the room.
Apparently it was several minutes from the beginning of the beating and its end, and over 10 but less than 20 slaps/punches delivered.
Harumafuji then returned to the room and demanded that Takanoiwa apologize, hitting him once or twice again with his bare hands. Takanoiwa said “I deeply apologize, I’ll be careful from now on”, so Harumafuji stopped.
Harumafuji also reprimanded kakuryu: “You are not guiding them properly”. Then he addressed Terunofuji: “You have no spirit when you do keiko. If you want to ask something, just talk to me!”. Terunofuji changed his sitting position to seiza and answered “We can’t say what we think. There is a wall between us”. Harumafuji retorted “You are the ones who created that wall!”, and proceeded to slap Terunofuji (lightly) once or twice. Terunofuji’s reply: “Thank you”.
Takanoiwa’s scalp was lacerated and bled. He also suffered an injury to his wrist.
When they left the lounge, Takanoiwa asked Ishiura “What did Harumafuji hit me with?”. Ishiura replied “I think with a beer bottle and remote control”. However, Ishiura did not see that with his own eyes.
Sadly for , in the end it turned out he only used a karaoke remote to fracture the 's skull, which is a lot less hilarious than the ice pick theory (but still pretty funny).
Takanoiwa spends 4 days in hospital with "concussion, left frontal laceration, right external ear inflammation, right middle skull fracture, and cerebral spinal fluid leakage", then leaves hospital to fight another bout (???) and then goes back to hospital again, all while fans and commentators try to piece together what the frick is going on.
Some sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harumafuji_K%C5%8Dhei#Assault_and_subsequent_retirement
https://old.reddit.com/r/Sumo/comments/7d3f6c/harumafuji_scandal_timeline_of_events/
Response to the drama
Sumo fans are pretty chaddish, so a surprising amount of people considered this to be just banter and not worth penalising a well-respected legend like Haramufi over.
See for example:
Demotion? I think not! Since when is that an option for a Yokozuna?
Dismissal? Intai recommendation ? Demotion?GTFO >:-(
Theres a bit more spice in that thread if you go through it, but I am too lazy to dig for it B^)
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The cast:
Jai (https://x.com/DreadedJai, https://x.com/JaiTheeDreaded) and the PAWG Patrol
Who is Jai? According to one Kiwi
The rest of the crew
Haven't digged much but here's a recent post from one of her orbiters :
Older Beefs
The Anne Frank White Privilege discourse
The day I took a screenshot of your ridiculous tweet comparing present day white queers to Anne Frank was the most important day of your life.
The Anne frank had white privilege discourse has already been posted here (including the TMZ article about it), but did you guys know Jai involved?
Congrats to Jai crew, I guess, on becoming internationally infamous antisemites.
Of course, people were maliciously taking Jai out of context:
Us: “white queer people regardless of their marginalized status still benefit from white supremacy”
Them: “Tell that to Anne Frank”
Y’all lost the whole darn plot
And some related anti-semitic (ALLEGEDLY) drama:
Kuntajay is now photoshopping klan hoods on the twitter accounts of people they dislike, including a Jewish friend of mine. I don't even have any other commentary to add, this is fricking bewildering.
Remember that time y'all photoshopped Klan hoods onto Jewish people, claimed they did it themselves unironically & they got swarmed by ppl sending death threats & telling them they "aren't real Jews"
Yeah I'd probably sit TF down if I were you. 🤷♀️
Mocking people’s SA? (ALLEGEDLY)
The situation:
When in your zeal to smear trans people, and trans women in particular, you selectively edited some screens(again) from her talking about her s*xual assault for a dunk and get called out...
NOT a transphobe though. NOT a misogynist. NOT a transmisogynist no way. 🙅♀️
She doesn't believe Jai's lies cause she is antiblack:
Also I don't think I stated as much directly yet but MY BUTT KJ didn't know the context of the tweets.
His whole thing is selectively cropping & editing tweets(and some people's photos🙃) and posting for dunks.
He knew GD well what he was doing, been doing it, still doing it.
Bonus thread linking archives
Jai’s tweets adressing the situation:
Other antiblack people weren't buying it (thread with further screenshots):
I keep seeing this KJ stuff through mutuals, and like...
I don't think you get to be like "I never mocked this person's SA" and then turn around and agree with "you more than apologized for mocking their SA". Those are mutually exclusive. Pick one.
Calling Keffals a grifter
Jai makes fun of Keffals obvious grift for money after the SWATING and Keffals says she is "a tumor that needs to be excised" from the trans community, among other pleasantries:
You call a grifter a grifter next thing you know they decide you can’t be trans anymore
Jai's haters and Keffals stans jumped to their Queen's defense:
Congratulations Jai, you're a number one witness on Keffal's inherent monstrosity in her K*wiF*rms thread(under her deadname) in posts(deadnaming her).
Fash having a good celebratory laugh at her SWATing
They really love you. Which one of your buddies is this? Or this one yours?
Even blue checks coming in to fight her and her friends:
actual context: jai mocking somebody for raising enough money for lawyer fees and for the ability to move after being swatted, and the person responding with the truth bc jai cries any time somebody even replies to her
(A thread with "receipts" on Jai, actually just saying negative truths about keffals)
Foul, disgusting, soulless; none of these words even quite cut it tbh
No surprise at all Jai couldn't miss an opportunity to quadruple down on transmisogynistic abuse but still.. Good fricking God
As usual, Jaidolf's disappointment at a favorite target's survival is palpable
After calling Keffals a grifter, Keffals stans accuse Jai of being the one that doxed her (as documented on the farms):
Keffals tweets a conspiracy theory that Jai is larping as her abuse victm from the catboy ranch
The train lawyer also accused her of making the victim sock account. This leads to the gang digging up (and mocking) a tweet where the lawyer is crying about being an octaroon
Also got blocked by Brianna Wu for continuing to not simp for keffals
Bonus post of Jai "tearing Lucas a new crotchwound" for browsing his KF thread
This “Jai is a Kiwi Farmer” sperg leads to a bunch of trains panicking and going MIA/priv to “protect themselves” from her
Which leads us to her haters, and their fights which will be presented individually below
Psychopomp aka Von aka Blake
Original thread with accusations(full of pics and further sperg out):
He gets progressively madder in that and further posts:
After the post she starts going after some random guy accusing him of being the one that leaked her info to Jai:
Been wracking my brain trying to figure out how KuntaJay got my deadname & location to threaten me. I have NEVER mentioned any name on here. And I happened upon Ronald, who's still lying for KJ, & whom I was in a GC with a long time ago.
Did you fricking doxx me to KJ Ronald.
Dude I didn't do anything I don't even talk to KJ off the time line
Don't call me dude. You are literally defending KuntaJay doxxing me, deadnaming me, posting my children's school & implying it's all just racist bc I live in AL, while it's actively trying to destroy people like me. Explain yourself. Explain why I should believe anything you say.
Go to heck. Every last one of you. Do not ever speak to or about me again you f*cking bigots
I unfollow you because you were getting really fricking obsessive about this and I didn't want to deal with any of that.
And what exactly makes me a bigot? Not agreeing with you?
If you're gonna block, feel free. If you're gonna creep, your call
Apparently Jai mocked her kid’s disability too? (ALEGEDLY)
Not really, Jai literally said my friend deserves their cancer and my child deserved their disability they inherited, as I do. It seems like exactly something Jai would do, its a reasonable conclusion
But also, maybe more importantly idgaf if anyone is mean to that abusive POS
Jai responds to the accusations (a thread with pics):
Including saying Von’s deflecting from one of her friends harrasing Jai first
Someone else also debuunks the doxxxing allegations
(Newer thread by Von)[https://x.com/dieSegenChukfi/status/1588231921259126785]
There's been some sperg outs in the last few days cause Von and her followers doxed Jai, found her old tinder (that she says she hasn't used in a while), even someIRL friends's podcast(https://x.com/dieSegenChukfi/status/1588160525954793473). Aparently Jai presents as a cis gay:
Her people are mocking it and saying Jai isn't really trans. This has caused drama ("Trans women don't owe you femininity!")
Chinchillazllla and her pet Pig Rufus
They started their beef sometime after the Zeffy girl drama. It's not really important, we're here for the bacpnposting
They really love to pretend I said “imma eat that pig “ unprompted
Tell me what the pig and plate emoji meant on Jai's account. I'd love to hear your understanding.
Y’all talked about this darn pig more than I talked about this darn pig
Sorry I put the love of your life on a pack of bacon.
Shit…. Before WWIII start anyone wanna get anything off their chest?
I never planned to eat that pig
Last time Ima address this but for the record, I do not own the copyright to any migos songs lmao.
hoes mad:
"If you don't let us threaten to k*ll and eat your pet you're a racist transphobic liar!!! ACTUALLY!!!! 😤😤😤"
Hey quick question why are we all pretending it's "Jai joked about eating someone's pet pig" rather than "Jai 'joked' about eating someone's pet pig as a way of publicly indicating she knew where the person lived, and has been making similar jokes consistently since"
THERE'S EVEN MORE BEEF BUT THIS HAS BEEN VERY LONG
- Igor_Konashenkov : Thinly veiled racism.
- MenAreWorst : Igor can go frick himself, great post OP
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Background Infomation
Chakabers is a African moid instagram influencer with over a million followers on his instagram. He travels around taking pictures in Africa. This website describes him as spreading social justice by:
producing content on pan-Africanism, spirituality and education, millennial humor and vegan lifestyle. His content also includes his own first-hand contributions to improving the lives of under-resourced global communities.
Social justice?
This is Africa
Our story begins with Chakabers taking a trip to the great pyramids in Egypt as a way to return back to his roots of being a former kang (more on this later). But during his time there he encountered trouble. In a reply to a now deleted tweet he claims:
I cant believe this! Why would the Arabs (Egyptians) do this to this poor African man?!? Well it turns out that Chakabers during his trip to the pyramids, conveniently left out some details that would change the story. On his Instagram he posted this picture:
For those of you who are typically when going to historical sites you don't want to climb on the stuff there. I know it looks fun, but it's against the rules and the local population wont like it.
Shortly after posting the previous picture, Chakabers posts this picture to his instagram:
Here's a video in where in the first couple seconds shows what happened in the intial encounter. You can stop watching once the foid starts talking because I summarize what she’s saying in one tenth of the time. Foids lmao:
In the video Chakabers calls the Egyptian moid telling him to leave an Arab. Chakabers is also shocked that he has to leave "his ancestors temple". Chakabers goes on to purity test the man asking of he's really an African. Chakaber says to the man "Your skin doesn't look African and that it says Arabs". Typically, Egyptians don't like being called Arabs because it's considered racist or xenophobic or something like that.
Additionally Chakabers posted this picture but I wasn’t able to find context on when or where it occurred. I assume it's after the intial encounter,
But either way highlights his attitude toward mayo Egyptians (Arabs):
Some lore and the Arab question
If you haven't picked up on it, Chakabers has certain feelings toward Egyptians that many would call "problematic". Chakabers doesn't believe that Egyptians are the actual Egyptians but just mayo/arab colonizers. Chakabers unironically believes in the idea of "We wuz kangs" being reality that is suppressed by these chuds. In a tweet he posted around the same time as his trip he wrote:
Further proof is of this claim is provided in a hilarious tiktok he posted on his account. In the video, Chakabers is walking around an Egyptian museum filming the statues with the caption "No nose. We all know why" with spooky music playing the background. Implying the mayos took the noses off so kangs wouldn't realize the truth
Chakabers has also gotten into previous related incidents unrelated to this one. Some of which include: Doxxing a someli doctor that promoted the covid vaccine, "Questioning" the coof vaccine, and Islamophobic comments (yikes). So he's a bit of a controversial
Always double down no matter what
After Chakabers posted the pictures to his instagram he started picking up hate from mostly Egyptian people since they were the most affected. While most would just apologize and try to move on from an incident like this, Chakabers has a different approach. Double down and call the Egyptians racist colonizers. He tweets out:
Obviously many Egyptians wouldn't take to kindly to being called racist colonizers so slapfights breakout on who's pigment was actually that of the Pharoahs:
the “colonizers” in the question look at them, they ain’t YOU
In a lot of the tweets you'll find a lot of followers of Chakabers ideology posting boomerbook-lite "memes" making some vague connection implying that African kangs were actually the real kangs. Weirdly enough no one actually provides a source that isn't some shitty jpeg
Chakabers further goes on his tweet spree and says:
To be honest I dont really know what he's talking about or how it applies to his other arguments but GO OFF KANG. Funny enough someone then posts the picture of him hanging off the tombstone walls to counter his point about "disrespecting dead bodies".
Chakabers then shifts his position to actually not giving a shit about North Africa because they're all racist:
People in the tweet begin unironically using physiognomy to actually determine the descendants of Pharoahs:
south sudanese are of Nilotic ancestry, they weren’t the creators of ancient egypt, nor do you have anything to do with them, yet you went into an Egyptian temple and said “my ancestors” you have a severe identity crisis, i recommend taking a DNA test
Finally, Chakabers ends his argument by tweeting out a link to the Wikipedia page to the Trans-Saharan slave trade and says:
What happens next?
This story is still relatively fresh so we'll have to wait and see what happens next. Currently some Egyptians are taking this seriously and trying to get Chakabers banned from coming to Egypt:
I wont lie I hope our Egyptians kang gets banned from his homeland. The drama that will arise from that would be amazing. I'll keep you kings (kangs) updated on the situation. Until next time!
- Holly_Jolly_Kong : Best post this week.
- SerUlrichVonLichtenstein : Wtf its Handmade Hero guy poggers
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Some background
When they're not busy designing pride flags the folx at Microsoft spend their time coding shitty software. Among these is the new Windows Terminal.
Casey Muratori is a programmer who, despite never releasing anything, clearly considers himself to be some kind of genius.
With that out of the way, here's the drama:
ACT 1: THE ISSUE
Frustrated with the slowness of Windows Terminal when printing colors, Casey submits a github issue. He even develops a benchmark application to accurately measure the speed.
After a bit of back and forth Casey starts to becomes frustrated:
Am I missing something? Why is all this stuff with "runs of characters" happening at all? Why would you ever need to separate the background from the foreground for performance reasons? It really seems like most of the code in the parser/renderer part of the terminal is unnecessary and just slows things down. What this code needs to do is extremely simple and it seems like it has been massively overcomplicated.
He receives this legendary response:
I believe what you’re doing is describing something that might be considered an entire doctoral research project in performant terminal emulation as “extremely simple” somewhat combatively. I am not aware of the body of work around performant GPU terminal emulation
Casey gets angry:
When we're at the stage when something that can be implemented in a weekend is described as "a doctoral research project", and then I am accused of "impugning the reader" for describing something as simple that is extremely simple, we're done. Consider the bug report closed.
After which a different Microsoft employee goes in on him:
You were overly confident in your opinion, but I hope [what I linked] helps you understand that it's actually really darn hard.
Basically the whole team agrees that what is being asked of them is extremely difficult. While Casey is insistent that it's trivially simple.
So who is right? A team of senior engineers in a trillion dollar company or a reclusive game dev?
ACT 2: A WEEKEND PROJECT
Casey tweets the following:
I take back literally everything I said about Microsoft taking an interest in fixing their terminal.https://t.co/K9ojvy1liX
— Casey Muratori (@cmuratori) June 17, 2021
And, over the following weekend, he implements from scratch a terminal that works in the way he proposed. It's ~100x faster than Windows Terminal:
(video timestamped to the part with the pretty colors, although the rest is fun too)
Twitter thread with some juicy questions from the audiance
Then this happens:
Afterward, the same dev [lhecker] also used a fake name to hang out on our groomercord and talk about Windows Terminal without telling anyone who he was. I figured it out and confronted them, and they failed to see anything wrong with that behavior. It's a really special team they have there.
— Casey Muratori (@cmuratori) May 6, 2022
ACT 3: MICROSOFT BENDS THE KNEE
Over the following months, there is an embarrassed silence from the Microsoft team. Eventually they release a blogpost basically admitting they were wrong, but don't mention Casey by name. Note that the person making the post is the one who snuck into Casey's groomercord.
Casey tweets:
When I tell the Windows Terminal team something is simple, I am "misguided", being "somewhat combative" and am "impugning the reader". But a year later when they call the exact same thing "trivial", that is just, you know, them writing a blog post:https://t.co/AXrgZjvUPT pic.twitter.com/UTDrD9s0o6
— Casey Muratori (@cmuratori) May 6, 2022
And finally one of them makes a post on Hacker News seething about the whole thing. Quotes:
We get it, Microsoft sucks, we should all be fired, rah rah rah.-
Casey, I'm sorry. We made a mistake. I made a mistake! We didn't know what we didn't know, and thought we were clever enough to pass for it.-
I just don't know what else he's asking for here. Credit? Us to die screaming? The blog post is matter-of-fact, and Casey is right: however, he said himself that it was trivial to do this. Is it not acceptable that we use the same language?
Truly a new low for Microsoft.
Want more nerd drama? See the previous post in this series.
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Due to the recent departure of IT headjanny Saint Advocate Doogycel due to being a child predator the entire subreddit is in a state of chaos because there is only one actual moderator left.
Background
It has been known for quite a while now that Doogy - an neurodivergent 30+ year old virgin but not incel chris chan apprentice complete mongoloid r-slur incapable of holding down a job at target collecting trolleys - was the sole beacon in the fight against the inkwell menace on the highly esteemed subreddit IncelTear. Due to being an ITcel his inherent child predator senses couldn't be no longer ignored and the only other active IncelTear mod decided to finally remove him as a mod and permaban him from the subreddit.
Moderation Issues
https://old.reddit.com/r/IncelTear/comments/ykrf9k/sigh/
Hello everyone. It came to attention recently that our own mod was/is grooming young girls. He has been removed and banned from this sub permanently. As a victim of grooming myself I will not let this stand. If you or someone you suspect is being groomed call CPS in your area and tell a trusted adult. Please do not fall for the flattery or talks these predators do.
Regulars in IT were shocked hearing the news:
https://old.reddit.com/r/IncelTear/comments/ykrf9k/sigh/iuv2pio/
What the actual frick. Dooling, if you’re lurking here. Frick you man. You hypocritical sack of shit.
Also a rare instance of ITcels being somewhat self-aware:
https://old.reddit.com/r/IncelTear/comments/ykrf9k/sigh/iuuw2hw/
This makes us look like shit, ngl. Especially when we make fun of incels for wanting to screw little kids but then a mod grooms.
[...]
Not entirely true. Members of IS are responsible for making people aware of the mods actions. A few of them have been trying to message members of IT for months, exposing the mod in question and very often dismissed. I also approached a few members with the same proofs that have been made public and was told that they couldn’t really form an opinion. Only now that it’s public and socially acceptable to denounce the mod are some doing it. I know not everyone would have reacted that way, but a lot did. We enable an abuser while some incel worked really hard to take him down.
But it's more shocking that the mod mentioned the following:
https://old.reddit.com/r/IncelTear/comments/ykrf9k/sigh/iuv4myy/
Currently I am the only mod. There are other accounts but they aren't active any more and I'm unable to remove them. I want to bring more veteran mods into this subreddit but seeing at the toxicity that we cover can make any loose any sense of happiness. This wasn't brought to my attention until recently which makes me angry because I'm assuming this was brought up to the other accounts that just aren't used any more. I'll definitely have to get more involved here to make sure nothing like this happens again.
Of course moderating such a big subreddit is no easy task so the user is understandably anxious:
https://old.reddit.com/r/IncelTear/comments/ykrf9k/sigh/iuvmr8a/
Try reaching out to /r/modSupport if the other mods are inactive. They may consider removing them but you will need to recruit more mods
I'm trying too but now I'm very nervous. I was never a mod before and definitely not for a sub of this size.
Let's take a look into /u/KindaDone03
18 days ago he posted this heart-breaking text in /r/mentalhealth receiving 0 upmarseys and no comments:
https://old.reddit.com/r/mentalhealth/comments/y4ndkq/i_dont_think_i_can_take_it_anymore/
I feel like everyone is out to get me. That their always watching and judging, waiting until I let my guard down to attack I feel worthless that if it wasn't for my gf that I would have no reason to keep going I do not feel connected to those around me, like I'm floating outside of my body I cannot stop worrying about tomorrow and what it will bring but I'm also wishing for something awful to happen to me to cause my death I feel like I'm cracking, nothing feels real anymore and I'm scared to leave my room Sometimes I feel like I'm in the air, looking down on my life and what I'm doing. I find it harder to remember things, like someone will tell me something and when they bring it up I won't remember, not even convinced that they told me in the first place Things that just happened feel like they happened ages ago and things that happened a long time ago just occurred
Also a post in /r/trans deciding if he can pass as a guy:
If you saw me, would you do a double take? I'm trying to pass as a guy
Not everything is well as he is also a new diabetic, trouble with his gf and in general a lot of other issues with life. You can stalk him if you want but his posts in /r/bullying and /r/MomForAMinute make me legit tear up
I do admire this person's effort to not completely give up on life by getting a welder scholarship. This is a tough field to work in and I do respect his dedication. With this feat alone he statusmogs the entirety of IT into oblivion.
Will it be enough turn that ship of fools around though??
Or will their whole sub collapse tomorrow from a complete vacuum of effective moderation?
Only time will tell
Maybe just maybe a couple of our actual reddit janitors might help him with the subreddit
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For Boomers Reading This Post When I say "troll", mentally replace it with "yanking their chain", "jerking them around", "pranking", "provoking", etc
Inception
Okay so it all started in the groomercord . A bunch of people including myself, carp, aevann, father, jc, etc etc were watching the darrell brooks case . Aevann got annoyed that we were hanging around in the groomercord instead of funny shit on the site/reddit . So he said he would delete the groomercord channel if there weren't ten posts on the subreddit /r/justice4darrell, his new subreddit . We did it and the groomercord channel was saved and the baitsub was on. So really it's all aevann's fault.
Farming Cows
We had a few cows take the bait, but not many. That changed when some mad men shouted out justice4darrell in the live chat of the Law and Crime stream. tons of people swarmed the subreddit, and there was great feasting on cows .
My favorite is when I trolled a redditor into typing paragraphs and paragraphs of sneed, while I only wrote about a single sentence of r-slurred shit, ending with him eventually bending the knee
"civility" is used by white people as a cudgel against people of color fighting oppression
I agree with you that it can be used as such. I also would point out that, again, that doesn't mean it's always used like that.
I'm pretty sure there's a large number of mothers who would smack their sons silly if their boys mouthed off to them the way Mr. Brooks has been mouthing off to the judge, regardless of skin color.
from my perspective it is pretty much always used like that
And I would never suggest that your perspective is invalid.
Nevertheless the courtroom does have certain rules of conduct and he has violated them repeatedly.
But more to the point the nature of what he says and how he says it still suggest the pattern of behavior classic to that of an abusive person.
you are saying my perspective is invalid by continuing to disagree
I am sorry if I have made you feel this way with what I've said. It was not my intention.
its okay everyone makes mistakes the important thing is that we learn and grow
buck status: broken
Then I trolled a dorky jew into an incredibly stupid theological debate
To be honest, I am not sure if non-Christians should be allowed to be a judge. They have no wisdom, like "judge" darow
"but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
-Article VI, Section 3, US Constitution
maybe the constitution needs to be reformed
You want to reform the Constitution so that non-Christians can't serve in office? Why?
because nonchristians have no wisdom. just judges tbh i am ok with atheist legislators
Most Christians I know can't even read Hebrew, the text of one of their works. I as a Jew reject religious tests for the offices I've held for the US Government.
i am ok with jewish judges too of course as long as they understand that Jesus is Lord
(this goes on for several pages lol)
Things heat up
I requested to be a mod because people were pooping the sub up by calling it out as a troll and low effort posts. I basically just removed any comment calling it out as fake . That is until we became aware of an excellent bait post from someone claiming to be on the jury. Like seriously, this was mastercraft baiting. It perfectly balanced plausibility with absurdity. I am not certain who made the post, I have an inkling, but I will not name the allegedly involved party. Again, alleged, I don't know for sure who it was.
So, to start with, I obviously shouldn't be here. I'm not allowed to look stuff up about this trial (or really have any connection with the Internet, but nobody actually follows sequestering rules anyway). Hence I am obviously posting anonymously. I accidentally wandered into here a few days ago from the /r/SubredditDrama thread on my main reddit account. Here is my opinion on the trial:
First off, I think it's pretty obvious due to chain of custody that the defendant is in fact Mr. Brooks and he did do it. HOWEVER, I've had throughout this trial doubts about various aspects of this case:
The judge is clearly biased against Mr. Brooks. I got that feeling from when we were in the room and my eyes have been opened to how she acted towards him when the jury was out of the room. Clearly she is not an impartial judge and has been trying to belittle, demean, bully and pull procedural tricks on him fairly frequently. I had my doubts already, but the subreddit has shown it to me clearly.
Mr. Brooks has clearly not been given the chance to plead his case in court. He has been silenced and mocked at almost every turn. While he may be a bit loud or crass at times, I still believe his side deserves to be heard.
I do have significant doubts about subject matter jurisdiction. I didn't understand it when discussed in court because the defendant was repeatedly silenced. But I do understand now thanks to this sub and I agree that subject matter jurisdiction is a great concern here.
This subreddit has made me aware of jury nullification and I am very grateful for that.
Overall, I'm not sure what I will decide. I'm not educated in law and I have to admit I'm biased against the defendant for the horrible acts he did. However, it is also clear that this trial is a complete kangaroo court. Mr. Brooks has not been allowed to try and prove his innocence, subject matter jurisdiction or explain the circumstances surrounding the events. (It's hard to imagine what could justify it but we just can't know because of this trial). For these reasons, I'm torn between locking him up and throwing away the key or jury nullification. Both have arguments for and against them and I'm not looking forward to choosing. I'm mostly writing this to help myself process my thoughts on this but please let me know what you think.
Anywho, we thought it was funny so we pinned it , but with a "Pending Verification" tag since, cmon, no one would seriously think it was real, right? Saying that it was real would be too on the nose, of course . That was what we did until someone suggested we could maybe get into shitnews blogs and cause a seethefest on twitter if we said we had "verified" it. The MOST we were thinking would happen was that mainstream media would debunk it, because it was obviously a troll.
If you’re confident that this is a jury member who has disclosed proof and you haven’t sent it to the court, you don’t give a frick about the “integrity of the trial.”
sometimes you've gotta bend the rules a little to ensure the right outcomes
This is anything but bending the rules.
Especially given that this sub is clearly biased in favor of brooks.
You can't claim to argue being for integrity of the court and have a juror make posts like this.
i really couldn't care less about this fake "justice". what we need is direct action. this is direct action.
Things REALLY heat up
Imagine my surprise when we ended up on Rekieta Law and Destiny. This caused a MASSIVE boost in traffic.
Rekeita talking about it (clip stolen from @TwoLargeSnakesMating with love):
Destiny talking about it
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxVZ5e68EW3P6xXFSpRl9avZmcScvus-dy
SHIT'S ON FIRE NEIGHBOR
Now, previously someone had posted the contact information of the DA and told people to contact them. (We didn't think they had actually done that, because, cmon, who could be that neurodivergent ) However people began emailing en masse after streamers covered it. Redditors sent tons of emails to the DA, the Courthouse, and even the Judge herself, on a personal email address (creepy!)
Given the massive amount of people emailing her, Judge Darow decided to bring it to the attention of the court. Keep in mind, this was a nationally televised trial, with hundreds of thousands of people following it, if not millions.
A few things to note. Firstly, Judge Darow said she was turning it over to law enforcement for a "full investigation". No one really knows what this means because it is relatively vague. When this happened I was chilling with some friends of mine and suddenly my phone starts buzzing off the hook because people are messaging me saying OMG WTF HEYMOON PREPARE TO GET ASSRAPED IN PRISON, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS EN ROUTE, MOMMY KNOWS, FRICK THE END IS NEAR.
Secondly, DARRELL FRICKING BROOKS SAW OUR DUMBASS BAITPOST.
Darrell: "Your honor... what is this?"
Darow: "All I can tell you, sir, is that on the internet there is a website, or maybe an application, called reddit, that is entitled 'Justice4Darrell', and it was on that subreddit that someone wrote an anonymous post claiming to be one of the jurors. That, of course, would be a violation of the rules that I set up for the jurors, which is why I turned the information over to law enforcement so they could make a full and complete investigation"
Darrell: "Uh... for the record, I accept value in exchange for value these documents. Um... I'm confused, I, uh - "
After this happened, the OP of the juror baitpost immediately edited and said it was just a prank, bro, and directed people to rdrama I don't really blame him for doing that in the heat of the moment, and I guarantee every one of you motherlovers would have done the exact same, so do NOT be hating. You have to understand how fricking intense those few hours after the stream were, people were in absolute panic mode, because nothing like this has ever happened to rdrama. People who weren't even slightly connected to the event were convinced that the feds would be busting down doors.
ALSO, you have to keep in mind that there was a legitimate fear that Darrell would use this as some way to get a mistrial. I think it should be obvious how bad it would be if an actual juror did this. If he thought that there was a chance that someone on the jury had been misbehaving, that could call into question the entire trial. Now, I hate to ruin the fun, but the whole justice4darrell thing was a meme - Darrell Brooks is an absolutely terrible person, and deserves to rot in jail. So, the person probably also wanted to prevent that from happening.
Also also, redirecting everyone to rdrama was SUPER DRAMATIC. Hello new users
Meanwhile, on the subreddit, things really started to pop off. The Juror Bait post had over 2300 comments with a 19% upmarsey rate - hands down the most controversial post I have ever seen. We had something like 30000 people on the baitsub at once lol. I guess the gigajannies went into panic mode so they banned the sub and banned several of the moderators. I had my password changed so I guess they are preserving my account for """evidence""".
Rdrama, of course, melted down because this is probably the most dramatic thing that has ever happened to the website. See also the post I made when I finally got back to my computer and @justcool393's post from when it happened
There were several news articles about the incident.
Mashable "How a fake Reddit post tried to derail the Darrell Brooks trial" (lmao derail train jokes haha)
Newsweek "Can A Reddit Post Impact The Darrell Brooks Case?" (spoiler: they say no but they asked a law professor for his opinion)
Business Insider "How a hoax Reddit post claiming to be from a juror nearly disrupted a chaotic murder trial"
They also signed off with "love, rdrama," referencing the subreddit /r/Drama which is known for stirring up false narratives and gossip-mongering.
Things cool down
The next day, October 26th, The reddit post was again brought up in court. Darrell said he found it "very concerning" and moved for a mistrial. Mommy flatly denied the request, because, well, duh.
To this day, I have not received any message or phone call that links my real name/identity to these shenanigans, much less from law enforcement. In fact, I haven't even seen anyone from outside of rdrama make the connection that rdrama's HeyMoon is reddit's BlackJusticeForever.
That's pretty much it, post your favorite meltdowns in the comments
FAQs
Why BlackJusticeForever?
There is no rhyme or reason to it, I just thought it was funny.
Who are you?
I am a shitposter who just likes to have a bit of a laugh at internet blowhards. I have previously trolled the alt-right website consumeproduct.win and reddit's /r/Christianity. I don't have any real political leaning outside of being funny.
Was this illegal?
Almost certainly not. There is no law that me or anyone else can point to that says "pretending to be a juror in a case is illegal". People keep throwing around contempt of court but that is literally not how the law works, contempt of court is not a crime, it is a penalty that can be doled out by the judge to parties involved in the court case. No one involved was a part of the court case so that doesn't apply. I am covered by the good old fashioned first amendment baby
Also, they can't prosecute me if they can't find me, and they haven't even found me yet
Will there be negative repercussions?
Probably not. Darrell of course tried to use it as grounds for a mistrial, but mommy of course flatly denied it. Pretty much everyone involved, except Darrell, doesn't think it is worth considering. Will it be brought up on appeals? Perhaps, but, again, this is super flimsy. Besides, when the jury decided "guilty", it was obvious that there was not a juror who was thinking about jury nullification. Also, Brooks will use literally any opportunity to stay out of prison so I don't think that one more flimsy piece of evidence will be that much of a benefit to him.
FINAL NOTE
I am not naming anyone else who was involved in this. This isn't because I am an butthole who wants to take the glory for himself but because while I am a total r-slur, some people on this website might want to lay low, and I respect that. I am completely unconcerned about the feds, since it is now two days past this incident and nothing has happened. hurry up, fedjannies, you're on the clock 😂😂😂
DARRELL BROOKS PARTY
mwah mwah oh yeah mwah
and then, when the judge was still talking, I said OBJECTION
so there's this guy named bardfinn and he beats his kids and we cant stop talking about him for more than a day, its really funny
what do you mean /r/subredditdrama is cringe, come here you some of a b-word
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Tbh, I'm surprised rdrama managed to make something out of this. I never thought we would ever make another successful bait sub again.
Disclaimer: Note that I'm only discussing the drama, I was not involved in the Justice4Darrell drama nor am I open for any journo interviews. Cite this page if you'd like.
Anyway, here's a recap of everything I saved. Did I miss anything? Comment below. @jannies pls pin. Check the bold link for an archive.
News coverage (obligatory /h/mnn plug):
https://x.com/cathyrusson/status/1585071740769955840 - tweet from Law & Crime Network producer
https://abc7chicago.com/waukesha-parade-attack-darrell-brooks-trial-closing-arguments-wi/12374834/
https://heavy.com/news/darrell-brooks-juror-reddit-jury/
https://dailycaller.com/2022/10/26/waukesha-trial-reddit-juror/
https://www.fox6now.com/news/darrell-brooks-trial-jury-instructions-closing-arguments-10252022
Thanks @volcel
More from @justcool393
https://rdrama.net/post/116580/justice4darrell-subreddit-mentioned-in-darrell-brooks
More links:
https://rdrama.net/post/116770/ragedlikemilk-marseywholesomemarseywholesomemarseywholesome
https://rdrama.net/post/116762/-
https://rdrama.net/post/116760/dear-federal-agents-i-challenge-you
https://rdrama.net/h/mnn/post/116759/darrell-brooks-trial-day-17-waukesha
https://rdrama.net/post/116757/-
https://rdrama.net/post/116753/bring-back-rjustice4darrell-justice4brooks
https://rdrama.net/post/116749/to-any-federal-agent-visiting-this
https://old.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/ydo4gk/whats_going_on_with_the_subreddit/
https://rdrama.net/post/116745/someone-please-help-me-i-think
https://rdrama.net/post/116746/paging-snappys-parent-marseythinkorino-marseysnappyautism
https://rdrama.net/post/116744/we-gon-get-raided-for-real
https://x.com/wavywebsurf/status/1585077209764487168
https://rdrama.net/post/116737/-
https://rdrama.net/post/116710/found-a-picture-of-the-juror
https://rdrama.net/post/116711/what-pol-thinks-of-us
https://rdrama.net/post/116727/the-fbi-flew-over-my-house
https://rdrama.net/post/116729/juror-5s-reddit-account
https://rdrama.net/post/116731/our-latest-cry-for-attention-has
https://rdrama.net/post/116732/ummmchudbrosi-think-we-made-a-mistake
https://rdrama.net/post/116733/mfw-i-just-got-darrell-brooks
https://rdrama.net/post/116685/heymoonster-is-currently-microwaving-his-harddrives
https://rdrama.net/post/116708/you-know-who-you-are-trying
https://rdrama.net/post/116709/rsubredditdrama-calls-out-rdramanet-by-name
https://rdrama.net/post/116706/post-your-favorite-screen-caps-from
https://rdrama.net/post/116705/survived-justice4darrell-still-want-to-keep
https://rdrama.net/post/116702/mods-and-admins-are-moving-any
https://rdrama.net/post/116696/top-7-tips-for-talking-to
https://rdrama.net/post/116697/video-review-of-rjustice4darrell-ive-been
https://rdrama.net/post/116698/-
https://rdrama.net/post/116672/marseypeace-me-yeah-i-am-gonna
https://rdrama.net/post/116683/rjustice4darell-banned-reclassified
https://rdrama.net/post/116681/what-the-frick-did-we-do
https://rdrama.net/post/116678/top-minds-discuss-the-banning-of
https://rdrama.net/post/116658/some-brave-dramachad-made-an-archive
https://rdrama.net/post/116665/marseypumpkinglow-marseyjolteon-this-was-truly-a
https://rdrama.net/post/116670/i-thought-that-rdrama-had-gotten
https://rdrama.net/post/116671/waukesha-county-da-announce-they-will
https://rdrama.net/post/116659/a-bluecheck-journo-calls-out-rdrama
https://rdrama.net/post/116651/i-look-forward-to-the-as
https://rdrama.net/post/116650/-
https://rdrama.net/post/116649/greetings-federal-agents
https://rdrama.net/post/116648/official-law-and-crime-youtube-video
https://rdrama.net/post/116647/glowies-and-jannies-take-down-rjustice4darrell
https://rdrama.net/post/116642/marseyitsover
https://rdrama.net/post/116641/siren-marseyobjection-marseyitsover-siren
https://rdrama.net/post/116640/justice4darrell-got-jannied
https://rdrama.net/post/116638/rjustice4darrell-banned-rip-in-peace-brooksannoyed
https://rdrama.net/post/116637/justice4darrell-banned-marseyjanny
https://rdrama.net/post/116636/justice4darrel-banned
https://rdrama.net/post/116634/timestamp-rjustice4darrell-is-referenced-in-the
https://rdrama.net/post/116631/sardines-cope-and-seethe-about-our
https://rdrama.net/post/116630/whats-better-than-getting-law-enforcement
https://rdrama.net/post/116628/i-am-going-to-take-darrell
https://rdrama.net/post/116627/why-the-frick-would-you-put
https://rdrama.net/post/116625/the-juror-guy-pussied-out-lmao
https://rdrama.net/post/116623/breaking-darrell-brooks-judge-orders-investigation
https://rdrama.net/post/116615/rightoid-with-18-million-twitter-followers
https://rdrama.net/post/116621/the-future-of-rjustice4darrell-megathread
https://rdrama.net/h/random/post/116611/666-get-marseysoypoint
https://rdrama.net/post/116603/fox-news-anonymous-reddit-post-claims
https://rdrama.net/post/116597/a-journo-has-saw-justice4darrel-and
https://rdrama.net/post/116593/an-important-note-for-the-wisconsin
https://rdrama.net/post/116591/whoever-mods-rjustice4darrell-please-pin-rdramanet
https://rdrama.net/post/116589/account-with-115k-followers-calls-out
https://rdrama.net/post/116587/600-comments-and-counting-on-the
https://rdrama.net/post/116585/clip-justice4darrell-mention-in-the-court
https://rdrama.net/post/116584/record-scratch-yup-thats-us-youre
https://rdrama.net/post/116584/record-scratch-yup-thats-us-youre
https://rdrama.net/post/116580/justice4darrell-subreddit-mentioned-in-darrell-brooks
https://rdrama.net/post/116579/justice4darrel-gets-mentioned-in-the-court
https://rdrama.net/post/116576/shes-talking-about-the-juror-thread
https://rdrama.net/post/116538/rjustice4darrell-appears-on-destinys-stream-time
https://rdrama.net/post/116525/rekieta-law-talked-about-the-rjustice4darrell
https://rdrama.net/post/116521/rekietalaw-on-rjustice4darrell
https://rdrama.net/post/116518/siren-siren-siren-brooks-closing-arguments
https://rdrama.net/post/116464/the-srdines-are-catching-onmarseyworried
https://rdrama.net/post/116463/please-upmarsey-and-discuss-this-post
https://rdrama.net/post/116421/look-at-how-long-i-was
https://rdrama.net/h/random/post/116417/marseyoctopus2-average-redditor-cant-tell-the
https://rdrama.net/post/116407/things-are-getting-weird-over-at
https://rdrama.net/post/116327/evidence-of-grounds-for-darrell-brooks
https://rdrama.net/post/116251/is-rjustice4darrell-serious-truecrime-jannied-already
https://rdrama.net/post/116239/marseymemeball-she-said-she-was-18
https://rdrama.net/post/116239/marseymemeball-she-said-she-was-18
https://rdrama.net/post/116221/someone-post-this-to-rjustice4darrell
https://rdrama.net/post/116159/justice4darrell-is-raking-in-so-many
https://rdrama.net/post/115986/which-one-of-you-is-this
https://rdrama.net/post/115783/who-wants-to-take-one-for
https://rdrama.net/post/115745/crowdfunding-srd-bait-response
https://rdrama.net/post/115743/topmindsofreddit-discusses-our-bait
https://rdrama.net/post/115740/srdines-discuss-rjustice4darrell-the-subreddit-made
https://rdrama.net/post/115679/psa-for-justice4darrell-please-read
https://rdrama.net/post/115595/weve-been-had-rcentrist-is-discussing
https://rdrama.net/post/115565/rdramatards-trying-their-best-not-to
https://rdrama.net/post/115526/offering-1k-dramacoin-to-whoever-creates
https://rdrama.net/post/115500/i-linked-my-baitpost-from-the
https://rdrama.org/h/random/post/115480/wake-up-honey-your-daily-copepost
There @Landlord_Messiah, we answered your question when you asked when was the last time we made a successful troll op on Twitter? The answer is Today landlet!
https://x.com/LLMessiah_/status/1580237932140429318#m
https://rdrama.net/post/115421/landchud-is-sad-nobody-asked-him
https://rdrama.net/post/115416/can-you-tell-if-these-posters
https://rdrama.net/post/115401/reminder-that-the-rjustice4darrell-bait-is
https://rdrama.net/post/115150/rjustice4darrell-bait-has-been-taken
https://rdrama.net/post/115090/made-rjustice4darrell
As part of the record...
News Articles
https://x.com/cathyrusson/status/1585071740769955840 - tweet from Law & Crime Network producer
https://abc7chicago.com/waukesha-parade-attack-darrell-brooks-trial-closing-arguments-wi/12374834/
https://heavy.com/news/darrell-brooks-juror-reddit-jury/
https://dailycaller.com/2022/10/26/waukesha-trial-reddit-juror/
https://www.fox6now.com/news/darrell-brooks-trial-jury-instructions-closing-arguments-10252022
Chronological updates as the post was made
7:21 PM CT: 35,000 users on the subreddit now
7:45 CT: the pinned post now links to http://rdrama.org
News articles:
Edit 8:17 PM: https://old.reddit.com/r/Justice4Darrell/
The subreddit has now been banned for violating the mod code of conduct
Edit 8:45 PM:
Producer from Law & Crime Network shouts out
https://x.com/cathyrusson/status/1585071740769955840
Edit 8:59 PM: /r/SubredditDrama post: https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/ydk0on/op_outs_himself_as_a_juror_in_the_current_darrell/
rdrama threads:
https://rdrama.net/h/museumofrdrama/post/116675/recap-of-how-the-marseycapychad2-made - recap
https://rdrama.net/post/116585/clip-justice4darrell-mention-in-the-court
https://rdrama.net/post/116587/600-comments-and-counting-on-the
https://rdrama.net/post/116672/marseypeace-me-yeah-i-am-gonna
https://rdrama.net/post/116683/rjustice4darell-banned-reclassified
https://rdrama.net/post/116641/siren-marseyobjection-marseyitsover-siren-bait-sub
https://rdrama.net/post/116648/official-law-and-crime-youtube-video
https://rdrama.net/post/116685/heymoonster-is-currently-microwaving-his-harddrives
https://rdrama.net/post/116643/rsubredditdrama-is-behind-the-justice4darrell-subreddit
https://rdrama.net/post/116687/-
https://rdrama.net/post/116625/the-juror-guy-pussied-out-lmao
https://rdrama.net/post/116585/clip-justice4darrell-mention-in-the-court
https://rdrama.net/post/116525/rekieta-law-talked-about-the-rjustice4darrell [in 10/25 stream it's around the 2:05 mark iirc]
https://rdrama.net/post/116659/a-bluecheck-journo-calls-out-rdrama
https://rdrama.net/post/116711/what-pol-thinks-of-us
https://rdrama.net/post/116745/someone-please-help-me-i-think
https://rdrama.net/post/116833/seriously-frick-you-all-if-a - trolls trolling trolls
Edit 9:11 PM:
Video from Law & Crime Network
Edit 9:58
holy shit there are so many notifications
Edit 10:03 PM: a /pol/ thread https://archived.moe/pol/thread/401526530 (archive: https://archived.moe/pol/thread/401526530)
Edit 10:37 PM: OutOfTheLoop post: https://old.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/ydn6n8/whats_up_with_rjusticefordarrell_and/
Edit 10:43 PM: LegalAdviceOffTopic post: https://old.reddit.com/r/legaladviceofftopic/comments/ydl028/what_legal_consequences_could_the_author_of_the/
Edit 11:09 PM: http://patriots.win post: https://patriots.win/p/15K6guJTho/rjustice4darrell-the-pro-darrell/c/
Edit 10/26 12:30 AM: /h/museumofrdrama post from @SlackerNews: https://rdrama.net/h/museumofrdrama/post/116675/recap-of-how-the-marseycapychad2-made
Edit 12:49 AM: reformatting to clean up
Edit 2:14 AM: WebSleuths forum post: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/wi-darrell-brooks-rams-car-into-holiday-parade-crowd-6-dead-61-injured-waukesha-4.641370/page-14#post-17847459 (and add Fox and Daily Caller article)
Edit 9:03 AM: Darrell Brooks asks for mistrial because of reddit post, is denied
Edit 9:52 AM: Following this event, user @weev has verifiably joined the site https://rdrama.net/post/116580/justice4darrell-subreddit-mentioned-in-darrell-brooks/2964338?context=8#context
Edit 10:32 AM: added a link
- skankhunt42 : put me in the screenshot
- HeyMoon : historic thread
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As part of the record...
News Articles
https://x.com/cathyrusson/status/1585071740769955840 - tweet from Law & Crime Network producer
https://abc7chicago.com/waukesha-parade-attack-darrell-brooks-trial-closing-arguments-wi/12374834/
https://heavy.com/news/darrell-brooks-juror-reddit-jury/
https://www.newsweek.com/can-reddit-post-impact-darrell-brooks-case-1755265
https://mashable.com/article/darrell-brooks-trial-reddit-fake-juror-post
https://dailycaller.com/2022/10/26/waukesha-trial-reddit-juror/
https://www.fox6now.com/news/darrell-brooks-trial-jury-instructions-closing-arguments-10252022
https://abc7chicago.com/waukesha-parade-attack-darrell-brooks-jury-verdict-trial/12379820/
https://heavy.com/news/darrell-brooks-juror-reddit-jury/
https://www.insider.com/reddit-post-almost-derailed-darrell-brooks-trial-2022-10
https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7bxdz/darrell-brooks-kicked-out-of-trial - brief mention here
rDrama threads
https://rdrama.net/h/museumofrdrama/post/116675/recap-of-how-the-marseycapychad2-made - recap
https://rdrama.net/post/116585/clip-justice4darrell-mention-in-the-court
https://rdrama.net/post/116587/600-comments-and-counting-on-the
https://rdrama.net/post/116672/marseypeace-me-yeah-i-am-gonna
https://rdrama.net/post/116683/rjustice4darell-banned-reclassified
https://rdrama.net/post/116641/siren-marseyobjection-marseyitsover-siren-bait-sub
https://rdrama.net/post/116648/official-law-and-crime-youtube-video
https://rdrama.net/post/116685/heymoonster-is-currently-microwaving-his-harddrives
https://rdrama.net/post/116643/rsubredditdrama-is-behind-the-justice4darrell-subreddit
https://rdrama.net/post/116687/-
https://rdrama.net/post/116625/the-juror-guy-pussied-out-lmao
https://rdrama.net/post/116585/clip-justice4darrell-mention-in-the-court
https://rdrama.net/post/116525/rekieta-law-talked-about-the-rjustice4darrell [in 10/25 stream it's around the 2:05 mark iirc]
https://rdrama.net/post/116659/a-bluecheck-journo-calls-out-rdrama
https://rdrama.net/post/116711/what-pol-thinks-of-us
https://rdrama.net/post/116745/someone-please-help-me-i-think
https://rdrama.net/post/116833/seriously-frick-you-all-if-a
https://rdrama.net/post/117251/the-waukesha-incident-brooksannoyed-the-story/ - @HeyMoon's perspective
Chronological Updates
2022-10-25 7:21 PM CT: 35,000 users on the subreddit now
7:45 CT: the pinned post now links to http://rdrama.org
Edit 8:17 PM: https://old.reddit.com/r/Justice4Darrell/
The subreddit has now been banned for violating the mod code of conduct
Edit 8:45 PM:
Producer from Law & Crime Network shouts out
https://x.com/cathyrusson/status/1585071740769955840
Edit 8:59 PM: /r/SubredditDrama post: https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/ydk0on/op_outs_himself_as_a_juror_in_the_current_darrell/
Edit 9:11 PM:
Video from Law & Crime Network
Edit 9:58
holy shit there are so many notifications
Edit 10:03 PM: a /pol/ thread https://archived.moe/pol/thread/401526530 (archive: https://archived.moe/pol/thread/401526530)
Edit 10:37 PM: OutOfTheLoop post: https://old.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/ydn6n8/whats_up_with_rjusticefordarrell_and/
Edit 10:43 PM: LegalAdviceOffTopic post: https://old.reddit.com/r/legaladviceofftopic/comments/ydl028/what_legal_consequences_could_the_author_of_the/
Edit 11:09 PM: http://patriots.win post: https://patriots.win/p/15K6guJTho/rjustice4darrell-the-pro-darrell/c/
Edit 2022-10-26 12:30 AM: /h/museumofrdrama post from @SlackerNews: https://rdrama.net/h/museumofrdrama/post/116675/recap-of-how-the-marseycapychad2-made
Edit 12:49 AM: reformatting to clean up
Edit 2:14 AM: WebSleuths forum post: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/wi-darrell-brooks-rams-car-into-holiday-parade-crowd-6-dead-61-injured-waukesha-4.641370/page-14#post-17847459 (and add Fox and Daily Caller article)
Edit 9:03 AM: Darrell Brooks asks for mistrial because of reddit post, is denied
Edit 9:52 AM: Following this event, user @weev has verifiably joined the site https://rdrama.net/post/116580/justice4darrell-subreddit-mentioned-in-darrell-brooks/2964338?context=8#context
Edit 10:32 AM: added a link
Edit 11:50 AM: added a couple more links to news articles
Edit 10/27 2:29 PM: added Insider article
Edit 2:53 PM: added Vice article
Edit 6:19 PM: added post talking from @HeyMoon's perspective
Edit 6:21 PM: formatting adjustments, move rdrama threads to own section, etc
Edit 6:30 PM: add newsweek and mashable articles
EFFORTPOST [Effortpost] Question: My father found my work in progress book titled: Plans for world domination. I mainly write in it compiled notes and information that has been proven effective and that could be used in its respective field of: Politics, economics, warfare and social psychology. Alongside APA format and inner note citations (basically where other parts of the notes can be looked at for similar information) I’m 20 pages deep now. what do I do?
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I have one work in progress book titled: Plans for world domination. I mainly write in it compiled notes and information that has been proven effective and that could be used in its respective field of: Politics, economics, warfare and social psychology. Alongside APA format and inner note citations (basically where other parts of the notes can be looked at for similar information) I’m 20 pages deep now.
The problem is that my father has seen this and he wants to talk about it. What do I do? Because I’m kinda relying on you to help me out of this jam.
Update: I tried one of the things you all had recommended, it had not went well. I told him I am writing a book and he said , ok, just dont let it become published, because I said so. I dont want to try and challange such a pig headed awnser, because the last time I tried to use my reason and logic, he got all pissed at me, like I just insulted the flag to his face.
At first this was just going to be a post making fun of a guy who's dad found his neurodivergent rambling, but then I went through his profile and realized how genuinely fricking crazy this guy is. Turns out he's a 17 year old who's writing a manifesto on his "simple use of using an autocracy model in the place of a democracy to pass bills quicker and faster solve the old problems before new ones pop up (he has "other plans to line up the ducks globally"). He also reckons he's being gangstalked by the desperado gang (he's "put precautions in place to stop them").
Here's an example of his political philosophy (link):
He also makes memes about being gangstalked using his own original art. People on subs like /r/okbuddyr-slur just think it's some sort of oblique satire and pay it no attention, not realizing he's being completely genuine (link):
Here's him describing himself in his own words:
[Look. Im just going to have to mini Q&A here, so you dont assume wrong.
Im 17, I started on reddit when I was 15, I did this because I wanted to make my website [Now prettymuch defunct] and its content more accessible to the people.
I used to be political, I really liked unions and I had argued for unions if implemented right could help labor and jobs essential for society to function well.
A couple months ago my gangstalkers stopped bothering me, but before that my parents feared me that I would be sent to a psych ward for the fact that I was being targeted by them. I personally refuse to go to a psychiatrist, unless I know them personally.
Im not homophobic, I just reacted to who the people who disturbed me were and I made logical assessments on that. I have a few gay friends and most people find me pleasant.
And here's him describing himself in meme form, hes the chad if you're wondering (link):
By this point you're probably wondering about his website, http://gaoozle.biz. Well I have great news for you: though it is now deleted, there are two links on http://archive.org from 2021. The one from February 23rd redirects to "sexy-gif-docking-cocking.gif", whilst the one from December 3rd redirects to a now-deleted xvideos video titled "dwarf fricked by curved peepee".
Anyway here's some funny comment threads from the original post. There's way more crazy shit on his profile you can find for yourself but I don't want to go too far with stalking this schizo, or make this psot too long:
Dad probably feels it’s a lil manifestoy
Poor dad is afraid his offspring is turning into a little Hitler :)
Or a school shooter… it’s a valid concern. He’s just looking out for his kid. I wish more parents cared about their children’s mental health.
Are you doing ok, bud? We all struggle sometimes. No judgement at all, but how is this a novel? I’m genuinely curious what your plans are for this world domination guide. Please be careful with this kind of subject matter given the current social/political climate. Take it easy and just explain yourself truthfully to your dad. What’s the problem?
You want to dominate the world? Why? What do you think would change? I’m not trying to be harsh, but I can understand your dad’s concern. I misunderstood. I thought the the world domination thing was your novel.They’re two separate things. I understand now. Thanks for clarifying.
The thread continues from there with out mate gazoogle arguing over whether he as dictator would be able to solve all those issues, and continually restating that he does not condone racial crimes
hey buddy, please, please find help, your profile is worrying.
genuinely, it seems like you've gone down the alt-right pipeline, or you are actually authoritarian centre and just have some wonky cultural views. either way, you seem like a pretty odd guy.
if you are struggling with mental health, know that you are not alone, and you can find the people who will listen. from what I hear, therapy works wonders, you just have to put some work into it.
Do you only have technical details for the mechanics of world domination, or do you have notes about characters, plots, or other story elements that obviously point to the production of a novel rather than the production of an actionable plan for a terrorist group or economic/political cabal?
I have meticulously made details alongside references to what I talk about.
Someone also made a parody of it on /r/writingcirclejerk and he went to defend himself in the comments
Hello mortals,
I will be your God. Tomorrow, I was supposed to start my plan to dominate the world. I will be the most powerful person known to existence. Everyone will love me and these who doesn't will be executed. It's my literal perfect world.
I wrote a incredibly detailed book on all my plans, how I will take over the world. Every single detail is laid out. Even about the part on how to defeat me.
Sadly I have but one issue. I turn to my inferior mortals to help me out. My father found out about my plans and he will know how to stop me. What do I do, mortals?
Thank you,
Will-be-God.
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So apparently researchgate has its own forums and some of the interactions kind of remind me of quora drama in the sense it's a bunch of third world r-slurs who think too much of themselves.
It starts with a basic question by Halo A. Abdulkhalaq:
Does wave function (in Quantum mechanics) have a unit?
Ulrich Mutze, who from now on is the protagonist of this thread, responds first with the only useful (albeit slightly condescending) contribution to this thread:
The answer is simple. The dimension of the wave function is set such that the scalar product in state space is dimension-less (since probability is dimension-less by definition). This gives different dimensions to wave functions in 'position representation' and in 'momentum representation' (and whatever 'representations' you may use).
Saeid Soheyli of Buali Sina University wanders into the thread, to give another answer which restates our dear Dr. Mutze's answer but does it much worse:
The dimension of probability density is the inverse of length, the inverse of area, and the inverse of volume in one dimensional, two dimensional, and three dimensional space, respectively. Therefore, the dimension of the wave function is the square root of 1/length, 1/length^2, and 1/length^3 for one, two, and three dimensional spaces, respectively.
Saeid, why do you ignore the possibility that wave functions refer to momentum space?
At this point I'm beginning to suspect our dear Dr. Soheyli is kinda r-slurred.
Dear Ulrich My answer is limited to the one, two, or three dimensional spatial space. Therefore, in momentum space, the dimension of the wave function is similar to the above, provided that the length is replaced by the linear momentum.
Ulrich becomes mildly annoyed and passive aggressively says:
OK, but all this is already expressed in the first contribution to this thread. Sometimes reading the precedent contributions is useful.
OP sees it devolving and intervenes.
Thanks for both of you Mr. Ulrich and Mr. Saeid. your reply is useful and appreciated.
It seems Dr. Mutze's bloodlust is interrupted for now and unfortunately we will be getting no more passive aggressiveness, condescension or rslurration from this thread anymore.
Luckily our journey doesn't end here. Himangshu Prabal Goswami of the Max Planck Institute for the Physics of Complex Systems (the first institution here that isn't a random no name) jumps in 4 days later to save the thread with an unironically r-slurred take:
The wave function does have dimensions, depending on what space you use to represent it. Say, the spherical polar co-ordinate system,eg. 1s=1/(sqrt[pi ao^3])Exp[-r/ao]. So its dimensions are L^(-3/2). You can reduce the dimensions as well.
It essentially comes from the interpretation of the wave-function. |Psi(q,t)|^2=1. So the volume element, dq, will determine the dimension and that will be reflected in the normalisation constant. Anyway, although wave-function is a very useful tool, I agree with lot of books which states, it has no physical meaning. That makes it useless to check its dimensions.
Ulrich immediately smells blood in the water:
Himangshu, the logic of physics is complicated enough that it is not always easy to express it unambiguously in our language. Saying that the wave function has no physical meaning may create a wrong impression for some readers. Saying that it has no direct physical meaning is more precise. Think of the four-vector potential A in electrodynamics. In the 19th century it was considered as a merely mathematical tool. Then quantum theory came and it turned out that A is the primary quantity that transmits electromagnetic interaction. So the indirect physical meaning changed into a direct one. Dimensions have to be right for formal consistency. The need for handling them correctly has noting to do with physical meaning. So your last sentence is strongly misleading.
Himangshu reveals he is a chemist. This explains everything and if for some incomprehensible reason you at all still cared what he had to say, you can safely know the opposite of anything he says is true.
Dear Harry and Ulrich, I agree to whatever you say. The wavefunction is indeed the most beautiful tool for a chemist. What I fail to comprehend is the utility of adding dimensions to particular quantity, which has no physical essence. Dimensions essentially as per as I believe is the conditional ability to add reality to its mathematical description so as to converge more in to the physical intuition, as in the vector potentials. To the wave function, till this date, association with reality has been denied/debated. Hence I made that statement. If you have an alternative and more convincing description, please free to rectify me. You guys have been into this field more than I have. And I will be happy to correct myself.
Some barges in 6 months later to semi-incoherently give an even worse answer than any answer given previously. Side note, his profile itself is rslurred:
I work on High Energy Physics theory. Standard model of particle physics, which is very well established today, has a fairly long list of unknown parameters. The number of unknown parameters is likely to increase once dark matter and dark energy problems are addressed.
Anyways, his contribution:
Actually it is a very good question.
Wikipedia says that
"For example, for a 3-dimensional wave function the amplitude
has a "bizarre" dimension [L^−3/2]."
Interesting point to note is that when you are solving an one
dimensional problem the probability amplitude has a
different dimension from what is quoted above. In a one
dimensional problem psi^2 dx is dimensionless so psi
has a dimension L^-1/2
In a two dimensional problem psi^2 dxdy has to be
dimensionless so psi has a dimension L^-1.
Luckily our protagonist is still monitoring the thread, passive aggression at the ready:
@Biswajoy
Actually not only the question is good. Good are also some answers. These render your's superfluous.
Ulrich: There is no harm in appreciating a good question or
a good answer. Many people might have identical thoughts.
I did not find a note in this thread which points to the fact that
the dimension of wave function depends on the type of problem
you are solving. Such as 1-D, 2-D or 3-D. This is a simple fact but
requires to be stressed specially for non-experts. That was the reason
behind my posting.
At this point this guy makes poor Ulrich miss even Saeid:
@Biswajoy
For your information: the second contribution (by Saeid Soheyli) gives the relation to space dimension explicitely.
Fast forward 4 years:
A few boring posts have happened but nothing interesting. Luckily a new lolcow has come to save the day, James Robinson:
szabo and ostlund - modern quantum chemistry, 1989, p42, wavefunction shown as a0^3/2, 2.5978E15 m^-3/2.
What did he mean by this?
Ulrich is on the case!
Dear James,
unless you tell us how a comma separated pair of values can stand for a wavefunction and whether m stands for a particle mass or for the SI unit of length your contribution makes no sense to me.
a0 is 0.52918 Angstroms (1 bohr if memory is correct) and the m is meters, there was a typing error, the conversion factor for psi to si units is a0^-3/2, which is 2.5978E15 and the units are meters^(-3/2). Apologies.
James,
in addition to the dimension (in 3-dimensional position space --- as opposed to momentum space) you also give numerical values. As far as dimension is concerned, many of the previous answers gave this already. Hopefully you are aware of the fact that the numerical value is irrelevant (or meaning-less) in the context of the original question.
At this point this r-slur deserves to be beat to death with a stick and if anything our protagonist goes too easy on him.
Hi Ulrich, I meant to provide a numerical simple example.
In a physics examination the professor pointed out of the window to the sky and asked the student: You see the clouds all around --- why they don't fall down, given that they consist of water which undoubtedly is heavier than air? The student plays for time and asks: Which of the many clouds do you refer to?
The idea that a 'simple numerical example' would enlighten any aspect of our question looks to me not more reasonable than this student's question.
Waleed Alawsey
Thanks for the question
To this day (a year ago) people are still occasionally giving worse variations of the same answers in this 9 year old thread.
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For those who have no idea what Amino is, basically it's a social media app where people make communities based on certain topics. This community in particular is for RPF (Roleplay Fighting).
What happened?
One of the users known as Lazarus was outed as a p-dophile and promptly banned, only for him to be welcomed back into the Amino because the jannies didn't want to update the app. (Kinda understandable since the newer updates are shit.) But this only got so much backlash that he was shortly unmodded and banned again for doing pedophillic shit as usual. This brings us to about a year later where shit hits the fan as the Amino gets the most activity it's ever seen at 12am, the mods incompetency when it comes to dealing with pedos finally boils over. A user who goes by Libby (who was a minor) is banned for being victimized by a groomer named Gravik. So what did Gravik do? He posted revenge porn of children and attempted to justify it and most likely got Libby to sell ERP when she was underaged at the time (Which is absolutely r-slurred. How lonely do you have to be to pay someone to type "-humps you-", especially from a kid.) He also sent very creepy and sexual messages towards more children.
As I'm typing, the mods are silencing all discussion of this in the general chats and trying to move it to a post which doubles as a half-assed apology from the mods themselves basically saying "we're wrong sorry" for a thousand words. Nobody is satisfied. The post is hard to have a conversation in and easier for jannies to control. But I've got archives on that shit baby.)
I'm on mobile so I'm able to read what our leader ThvRedBandit has to say. Amino is hard to navigate on PC if you don't have an account or the app.
Hello members of Roleplay Fight Club, also known as RPFC.
Sometimes we like to call you our “loyal members” or our “fighters and writers,” but in recent times we don’t exactly have the right to make that claim. We’ve lost your trust as our members.
This is ThvRedBandit speaking. I’m sorry if I sound like a suit at a press conference. I don’t think of myself as higher than the rest of you. Neither of the moderators does. We know as well as all of you that this community is nothing without the support of its members. We go through rough patches, but in general, we love the lot of you. All of you. You make this place possible and you are the culture. We shouldn’t make decisions for ourselves but for the safety and best interest of you guys.
You may expect us to downplay it, disable or moderate the comments
He would later restrict all discussion about this madness out of the main chats and into the post.
But that’s not what this PSA is about. When poo hit the windshield in the Friendly Realm, I had to let that happen. When it came to the Necronomicon, I had to let that happen too. I’ve been known for damage control, and wrangling loud members, but I couldn’t silence what was being said. It would’ve been wrong too because we, the moderators, were in the wrong.
We were considering temporarily banning Libido, a victim of being prey to a predator, on account of selling inappropriate content that attracted p-dophiles. However, as I dug I found less evidence supporting that, but she did sell some illicit things. Still, it was pressed that she lied about her age before engaging in sexual relations, but further evidence unearthed that too was illegitimate. It was also believed she withheld evidence on known p-dophiles, but this is an ongoing debate.
Why was she temporarily banned then? For selling erotic roleplay when she was underage.
That may shock you and I wouldn’t blame you. There’s a lot of discussion on this and it would take an essay to unpack it all. If you want to take it out in the comments, I invite you. The chats won’t be silenced and neither will your thoughts and concerns. The decision to even temporarily ban Libby has to be our poorest conclusion yet. I will come forth and say I was the one who told Lib the unfortunate news and would have pushed the button since it’s usually a leader’s job and I’ve banned friends before, so I thought it would go smoother. I had a chance to get her side of the story and I began digging. Her ban was decided after a vote. Who voted what won’t be stated, but the fact we allowed this deserved your outrage. Until it was Lib’s time up here on the platform I dug for more evidence because I wasn’t satisfied, but failed to find anything else, so I felt like I had no other choice. I didn’t know what to do. However, I could’ve always spoken up about a different punishment, but didn’t, and that’s my mistake I’ll live with. Randomz was working the entire time and constantly popped in and out of our discussions. He wasn’t sure a definite decision was made and wasn’t aware of the vote being the final verdict. It's safe to say our communication tonight was not the sharpest.
After hearing your voices, I proposed we act and we unbanned Libido and would give her a lighter sentence for selling erotic roleplay. A ban should have never been on the table. She’s been able to return pretty much when you guys started raising your voices. It did not take long. That’s the power of you guys. I always say this, but your voices do matter. Speak up. Always speak up.
In a few hours, the mod-run public chats will need to return to their original topics, but no one is getting banned, warned, or getting a strike for speaking up at the mods.
The RPFC moderation team will use this opportunity to reflect on how to better handle these matters in the future. I hope you can see that I’m being honest with you because I regret all of it and hate having damaged the community so much. If I made one decision differently before this could have all been avoided. I’ll try to answer what I can in the comments, but some of you know my situation. I’ve been tired for months, and even though I got a home now, I have to rebuild myself in the real world, but this community should be rebuilt too. Thanks for being here or having been here.
The comments
I have a small feeling that if it was someone in the same shoes are Libby but as a random, the sentence would have been greater but part of me says it might be due to favoritism. Selling erotic roleplays via photos, text or art is against the community guidelines as it follows the Sexual Content & NSWF rules stating: "*Any behavior or content that sexualizes minors is S͟T͟R͟I͟C͟T͟L͟Y͟ prohibited and may result in Amino reporting you to law enforcement agencies."
Except all those times people much older than 18 took literal years to ban for their offenses, and then still weren't perma banned til much later. Weird how there can favoritism for someone the mods had decided to ban previously lol. Also pretty sure this mod team has put more effort into punishing the victim than it ever did into seeking authorities against the perp
But even defending a minor of doing actions that they were completely in control of doing is completely wrong which leaves the Mods to be unfair towards the age system. Minors need to learn their place even on an app made for them to let their imagination expand. Learning that sexualizing other minors whether you are yourself or not is not allowed by community guidelines and big Amino guidelines.
Reprimanding a minor as a direct result of an attempt at vengeance by her abuser is not only wrong, but most likely mentally damaging and lessens their chances of ever coming forward in the future, since thy were punished for coming forward before. The exact reason more women dont come forward with abuse alligations unless they were a perfect victim. Retroactively punishing someone years in the future for bad decisions they made as a child being groomed sounds like a retaliation, not like a lesson to learn.
Dude below me is a victim-blaming p-dophile apologist upset that the community prevented a miscarriage of justice against a victim of statutory r*pe. Steer clear of them.
The person below says...
If she was doing ERP as a minor then the ban should certainly stay. If anything Amino should get involved and permaban the account.
Don't apologise for doing what you need to do to protect minors.
Edit: After looking some more, what it seems to be is that a small subsection of the community is kicking off and pushing you into making an apology you don't need to make. Stick to your guns, and if the desenters want to keep messing around, well bans for them as well. This community will continue without them.
Yeah if she was actually doing this than a ban is very much worthy that is against amino guidelines and the law. That's also trapping anyone else who believed she was that age.
You should refrain from commenting if you don't know much of the story. Lib's behavior was by and large present while she was being victimized. Most of these claims have not been verified either.
The decision also has context, being driven by a known predator who defended and admitted to his actions. It was retroactive, meaning long after the fact, and it was a little more than a case of mods digging into someones troubling past and the confirmation bias of already having taken the side of the predator.
What age? Minor age? How did she "trap" adults into sexual conduct with a minor? How is it entrapment if an adult is willing to have s*x with someone they know is a minor? Do you want to have s*x with a minor? Sounds like you do.
You sound like the type to blame r*pe victims for dressing provocatively. Teenagers do dumb shit, and what she did actually technically isn't against the rules. But her abuser was a p-dophile, and deserved the permaban. Heck, deserves to have the police knocking his door down. But here we are.
ERP isn’t a bannable cause or else 85% of this community would’ve already been gone. Secondly, it’s up to always ask peoples age and if they are two consenting adults then go for it.
User explains why the post is shit
Okay, so am I the only one in here that thinks this blog was more or less just..like. “Hey, we noticed that everyone wasn’t as happy so here! Have them back” sorta? Like I understand many weren’t happy about it from everything that seems to be surfacing around. But when I was on one of the chats last night I don’t know who but I saw a screenshot of some user with “I can’t wait to frick your v*rgin *****” and since then I said frick that im out. Now, that im returning and see all this and some people who think that the person who this was said to (and pls tell me if im wrong) was still a minor back then should be permanently banned for having a convo with a grown butt adult person. What type of logic is that? Shouldn’t as the adult, known any better as to what they were doing? I understand where some ppl come from with the whole you know “but they did this” or whatever but often times there has been a lot of research (this could be done by yourself) where this type of over sexualization happens almost as often because they might’ve gone through something or they weren’t mature enough to realize it. And from what else happened in the chat I think said person was either 16 or 17 which is still fairly young. I believe (don’t quote on me) that the adult brain doesn’t truly develop until the age 25 but you start to realize things after 18? But, enough of that, that’s all I say. I feel like a more reasonable thing would be a temporary ban but definitely not a whole year.
Popular users announce their departure as jannies crack down.
Warsplitta: (http://aminoapps.com/p/iz2z03)
I’m not sure where else to start besides frick this community. And frick this app. Frick all 5 years of bullshit I had to go through, and that everyone else had go through. I feel like a broken record saying this but this app has been fricking DRAINING ME of my motivation, of my happiness, and of my mental health overall. I’ve sunken 5 fricking years, since middle school, into this app and all for what? For nothing besides the feeling that is only amplified this idea that I ended up ruined and turning myself into a fricking failure, that’s what. I’m done. For good. I recommend you all leave too. This place has been on life support for too fricking long, and it’s about time the plug gets pulled. I would say some more shit but I just… can’t anymore. I’m too drained. Too emotionally exhausted. So that’s it. If you want to contact me, contact me on my groomercord. My ID is Big b0ss#6849. I’ll gather whatever shit I need tomorrow and in the next couple days if I didn’t get to gathering enough shit, but once I got everything I need I am out for good.
Some of the mods have also took a step down from their position.
Replacement community is made (courtesy of me) https://aminoapps.com/c/RPBattleArena
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There is a lot of enthusiasm about generating marseys using Stable Diffusion. Recently @float-trip did something that just a few months ago I predicted would take five years - make a marsey generating bot () ( to be fair my point was about the long-term costs involved in running a bot on a node that has the capabilities to do so ). Anywho, there has been a flood of new marseys that have been submitted, prompting that rat bastard carp to tell you all to knock it off (AI-chads are the most oppressed minority on earth). BUT some AI marseys are really good and cute so how can you make good marseys using AI?
SETUP
Alright so this guide is only for non-poorcels that have a decent GPU. By decent GPU, I mean NVIDIA . (I recently upgraded my GPU from an AMD RX570, and I tried my absolute hardest to make it work on my AMD but I couldn't get it. There are """guides""" online but there are a lot of implicit assumptions about what type of GPU you are using, it has to have so much VRAM and it has to be certain series and the documentation is a FUCKING nightmare (@DrTransmisia can relate))
(Also, I am running it locally because I want to generate tons of variations in the background while I am wageslaving. You can run it via the cloud too if you want tho)
You will need:
A PC with a GPU with a decent amount of VRAM (10+ GB is best, but the requirements keep going down as CS-chads continue refining the model. nowadays you can technically run it with 4GB with certain versions of the code but YMMV because i haven't done that yet)
Python 3.10.6 (You should add it to PATH)
git (technically optional but it will make your life easier)
@float-trip's model. float trip is the real MVP here btw, he has been trying several different things to get this project to work with tons of compute. mad respect my nigga
Get AUTOMATIC1111's webui repo. This is the best repo out there for this kinda stuff, partially because it was made by 4chan autists who were trying to generate waifus. If you have git, you can just open up a command prompt and type
git pull https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui.git
. Otherwise, I think there are redneck ways to get the code as a zip file but that's a pain.Place float-trip's model in the /models directory. Rename the model to "model.ckpt"
Double click webui-user.bat in the main directory.
Wait a few minutes for everything to load, until the text stops moving and it tells you to open a weblink.
Open your webbrowser and type "localhost:7860". Viola! You should see the webui
GENERATING MARSEYS - GENERAL TIPS
If you have done everything correctly, and you type the word "marsey" into the prompt, you should see a marsey appear. If not, you may see something related to the planet mars. If that happens, make sure you have the correct model that I linked above. Also try restarting your computer, that helps for some reason ().
With most words, longer descriptions are better. However, with "marsey" I have noticed that sometimes the AI "loses the plot", so to speak. For instance, if I type "joe biden as a dark wizard, very detailed, greg rutkowski, award winning, trending on artstation", I will get a badass picture of DVRK BIDVN. However, if I do "marsey as a dark wizard, very detailed, greg rutkowski, award winning, trending on artstation", the picture generally won't be of DVRK MVRSEY. I think that's because CLIP may be confused about what "marsey" actually is - is she a cat , a person , a style , or an idea ? Who knows??? Anyways, all that to say that shorter is generally better.
stylized using a greg rutkowski type prompt. notice that marsey doesn't really resemble marsey
no stylization
Also, remember that you can use (((noticing))) on words and phrases you want the AI to pay closer attention to. No, that's not a joke, that is literally a part of the code. For instance, if you are finding that "marsey as a knight" is generating pictures of human knights with the wrong style, try "(((marsey))) as a knight".
With most prompts, if you want to get high-quality outputs you should set sampling steps to 150 (otherwise the output will be blurry). However, when generating marseys, I have found that 50 sampling steps is enough to get good marseys. I say this because sampling steps increases the amount of time needed per image generation linearly, so imo it is better to spend that time generating more variations of marseys than a few with marginally higher quality.
Another thing to keep in mind is CFG scale. CFG is "Classifier-Free Guidance". Basically, the lower this number is, the more closely the output will be guided by the prompt. 7, the default, works fine for me.
comparison of CFG scales and step count for the prompt "(((marsey))) as a dark sorcerer"
I like to generate marseys in batches of 100. By default, the UI only lets you do batches of 16. To increase this, just open ui-config.json, and set "txt2img/Batch count/maximum" to 100.
inspiration! prompt was "COLUMN (((marsey))) as a ROW"
FIXING YOUR MARSEYS
Now, no matter how good your favorite outputs are, they probably aren't ready for submission yet. (Hence why carp was mad). Some fixing may be necessary.
The first order of business are the eyes. AI-generated images are often bad with the eyes (although the recent model is pretty good). The reason for this is actually that AI isn't bad with eyes, it is as good at eyes as it is everything else, it's just that our monkeybrains are a lot less forgiving of eye-imperfections than any other imperfection.
There are a couple of different ways to fix the eyes. You can squish them, you can resize them, you can rotate them. If push comes to shove, you can also entirely replace them. Don't feel bad, that's how 99% of marseys are made in the first place (, , )
I use paint.net for marseys because it is free and easy, if you understand paint you should be able to understand paint.net. For most edits I use the brush tool with a size of 4 and 100% hardness. I also color select from other similarly colored parts of the marsey to make sure I am following a color-pallete (most marseys dont use very many colors)
Another tool I use is gaussian blur to blend colors more evenly. Also make sure you remove the background and crop to the marsey cleanly.
It doesn't just have to be fixes! Let your imagination go wild, and use the AI's output as a starting point. For I made her match the russian flag by coloring her sneakers red, and made her tracksuit an adidas tracksuit.
Oh one more thing. Most of the time, marseys will be inline, which means they will be relatively small. So you should make sure that the output is easy to parse from a distance. People should be able to understand it intuitively as a symbol without seeing it up close. is probably my favorite marsey because it works so well as a symbol from a distance - it is obviously representing music or listening to music and is hecking cute.
FINAL STEPS
To avoid spamming carp maybe make a post on /h/marsey first and see what people think before submitting it. I like to tell people what the steps I took to improve the marsey were, and also provide the original, and a few that I like but didn't make the cut. They will probably call you a lazy faggot but that is the essence of rdrama so don't worry about it
also stop making OMG THIS IS THE FIRST THING THE AI OUTPUTTED ISN'T IT SO COOL posts. we know
OTHER FUN TOYS TO PLAY WITH
if you have an idea for a marsey, but you are a shit artist, try sketching it and feeding it into SD. in the webui, there is a tab called img2img. Upload the picture there, and type a description of the image you drew, and click generate. This should generate variations of what you drew.
- there are several things to play around with there. try tinkering with the CFG scale and Denoising level. I have found that denoising about 0.7 gets sufficiently novel results, but try playing around with it on your own. A tool that can help you is the X/Y plot script, which should be fairly self-explanatory.
you can use AI to upscale your results! sometimes this is a bit derpy, and I haven't played around with it much, but it is possible! see the "Extras" tab for that stuff.
you can make LOOPING marseys. That's right, if you want to have a cleanly looping wallpaper of marsey, you can do that! just check the "tiling" checkbox.
a single looping marsey tile
same tile, tiled
- want to make ungodly abominations? you can do that! try changing the width and height to something besides 512x512 to see some really wacky stuff. now, the marsey model performs pretty well compared to most other things, and you can get some normal pictures, like this happy family
... but you can also get really weird stuff, like this guy
IS IT ART?
I think there is more art to this process than people think there is. Firstly, I would argue the act of generating and cherrypicking the best results is an artistic process itself. You type in a prompt (a form of artistic inspiration) and you look for outputs that you like (also an artistic process). Also, as you learn how the software works, and get an intuitive feel for how it works, you actually gain skill. For instance, knowing the effect of CFG scale, and what other AI tools can improve your work, is a form of mastery.
Secondly, of course, there needs to be an editting process, and this also shows about the same level of artistry as 75% of marseys. After all, most marseys are kitbashed anyways by amateurs so what's the big deal.
+ = , for instance.
Ultimately I think art is mostly about making things that people enjoy rather than a specific process. I think most people here would agree. I think that is a good thing as long as it is used sparingly, with an eye for quality instead of quantity.
I think a lot of people rush to the most negative possible conclusion about a thing rather than considering the positives. I think that AI art has drawbacks, but I also think it can make the world a slightly nicer place, with more cool things to look at
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Intro
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
- The Book Of Proverbs, King Solomon
Pride is the satisfaction and pleasure that derives from an individual’s achievements or from those closely associated to them. There is nothing inherently wrong with having pride in oneself, but such as a majority of other traits, it is important to practice everything in moderation. Excessive pride makes us blind to our faults and prevents us from growing as individuals and remedying the errors of our personality. Countless times throughout history; individuals, communities, and nations have fallen due to extreme pride. Today I will be recounting the tragic tale of an individual’s ignorance of his own pride and how it led to his current downfall.
Who is Def Noodles?
Def Noodles (Real Name, Dennis Feitosa) is a YouTube commentator and self-described comedian.
Noodles has amassed a modest following with his YouTube channel having a over half million subscribers and his twitter having over 100k followers in a little over two years, which itself is respectable growth for any content creator. Except going to any of his social pages, one would hastily notice a discrepancy between the number of views/likes he receives on his content based on what a content creator size would normally obtain.
His recent videos struggling to get 10k and his social blade showing his channel slowly losing out on subscribers. Additionally, Noodles and his tweets are unable to garner more than 100 likesThere is one thing for certain; Def Noodles relevancy on the internet sphere is bleeding out and he’s is struggling to stay significant. But the question is why?
It would be wrong to say that there was one specific event that caused his decline. It would be more accurate to point to multiple instances alongside with Noodles unlikeable personality as the cause that ultimately is leading to his downfall. Noodles has a history of lying, taking videos out of context and having lolcow meltdowns on twitter.
I can’t cover everything about Noodles because this man cannot stay out of controversy or stop posting stupid shit. Thus, I will attempt to highlight some of the more significant events and traits of Noodles that I believe leading to his current downfall.
Rise to Fame
Noodles could be best described as a react channel in his early years of his YouTube career. He would simply watch and react videos he found or that his fans sent in. Examples include TRY NOT TO CRY Sad Philippines Commercial Comp. Where after watching the whole video, Noodles comments that the video almost made him cry. That’s it, nothing else. Bottom of the barrel of content when it comes to YouTube react channels. Some react videos that Noodles has made managed to luckily gather millions of views.
One of other notable event that helped out Noodles rise to fame was him being noticed by fat boy Ethan Klein. Specifically, Noodles was reporting on two major events; The David Dobrik r*pe scandal, and the James Charles underage s*x scandal. Ethan would often retweet and interact with Noodles since Noodles would constantly post about updates to the situations. There’s too much to go over the whole scandal, but during his reporting on the scandals, Noodles would often misattribute or straight up lie about details that would come out. Here’s a video that goes into the history of Noodles, with some parts talking about his reporting. Go to around the 27 minute mark if your interested in the misinformation.
Downfall with Kavos
Enter Kavos, the first major obstacle in Noodles career that would make his lolcow personality well known across the internet. Kavos is another commentary Youtuber that hosted a twitch show titled "Make or Break" where upcoming internet personalities and content creators would submit their videos to be reviewed by Kavos. Kavos was often harsh in his criticisms toward participants but mostly everyone had fun with content creators taking the criticisms in jest and enjoying the exposure they got from it.
One of these contestants that opted into being on the show was Def Noodles at the time Noodles found his place on YouTube by making meme/video reaction videos, a rather uncreative and lazy forms of content creation. Kavos ripped onto Def Noodles hard for this saying that he added nothing to the content and that he was a “soyboy sniperwolf”. Def Noodle took the criticism personally to an extreme and created a video where he talks about “how Kavos hurt his feeling and wondering why doesn’t he like Noodles”. Noodles goes on to brag about how he worked at multiple comedy clubs and that is he a funny comedian and that he isn’t affected by Kavos words. Unsurprisingly, a week later, Noodles put out this infamous video::
In the video, Noodles proclaims that he wishes more Youtuber were like him and made low effort content instead of content that made fun of other people. Noodles also talks about how the Kavos mean words made him sad for several days and almost resulted in Noodles quitting YouTube forever. Kavos responded by making a video called “Def Noodles DISGUSTING Lies & Slander EXPOSED!!”, where he brutally rips into Noodles again and exposes how pathetic Noodles actually is along with the some of the lies he told.
Kavos and Noodles would consistently clash again with one another to this very day:
Noodle attempted at one point to try and cancel Kavos for saying cute twink one time back in 2016, by riling up progressive dream fans, but unfortunately for Noodles this was another L for him since the cancellation didn’t work and Kavos continues to make videos to this day.
After this failed attempt to remove Kavos from the internet, Noodles had to improvise and devise a new plan to remove Kavos from the internet. What was his new plan you may ask? Well it was to bait Kavos into a street fight so he could murder him and end his existence:
Other people catch wind of these death threats
To end this section, I will leave you with this unironic tweet by our tragic hero noodles:
Exposed by Taylor Lorenz
Hilarious enough, one lie Noodle got exposed for is lying about his age. I originally thought he was somewhere in his early twenties, but apparently Noodle is 37 YEARS OLD. He would tell people that he was in his mid-twenties, but unironically got exposed by Taylor Lorenz herself. Noodles at first attempted to deny that he was lying about his age, but rather changed his story and claims he lied so he could get acting gigs.
The mayo question
Noodles is rather a progressive individual, where he often wants to find himself on the right side of history. Often reporting on those chud alt right nazi’s:
In the context of those tweets, the people he was referring to aren’t actually Nazis but rather just edgy individuals. One of the individuals accused of being chud was AugieRFC, who has actually interacted with Noodles, calling him out on his lies.
But more amusing about Noodles is his constant effort to deny his mayo heritage, to the point where he posted this tweet:
That’s right. Noodles came here to the US from Brazil at the young age of 12, with no help! But, if one does enough research about Noodles, they come across his IMDB page which actually talks about his background:
So from his IMDB page we learn a couple things. First, he wasn’t born in brazil but was rather born in the US in New Jersey. Secondly, the Noodles father was an executive at Warner brothers! Noodles unending desire to be mixed race has even become a joke in his subreddit.
The lesson to take from this section is that there is nothing that Noodles won’t lie about, no matter how bold. And that he will never be mixed race.
Failed Comedian
Noodles has been an aspiring comedian from a young age. He even described his own show as a mix of ace venture and Jim Carrey. If you’re this far into this thread, you noticed by now that Noodles tends to over exaggerate a bit much. This also includes his comedy. If you have a minute, I highly implore you to watch this video. This is considered one of Noodles best jokes
Yikes. If making bad comedy wasn’t often, Noodles has also tried stealing viral tweets/jokes in an attempt to boost his engagement, but was quickly called out by others:
There’s even discussion on his subreddit on whether or not if he even performs at his shows. But don’t worry when he is found performing at his show, his audience will critique his set, and those critiques will often be funny than the show itself:
But this isn’t the first time and definitely won’t be the last time. Even funnier is that his subreddit points out that the joke he stole doesn’t even make sense due to the fact that he doesn’t even have a girlfriend. Other attempts at comedy by Noodles includes doing baby voice that many don’t understand as to why he does. To attempting to innovate new funny videos that end up failing to get any views. His own fans begin to even question if he can even write his own joke
Noodles has such a thriving passion for comedy that he opened up his own comedy club, where he hosts his own “roast battles”. But unfortunately his club isn’t doing well, with most noddle fans discussing how the quality of the shows continue to decline. Even worse for Noodles, moist critickal created a video talking about how terrible the roast battle. Noodles apparently makes random nobodies go against one another, meaning the only thing those people can roast the other person on is their looks. Fans of Noodles have also done some sleuthing around and found out that he only sold 5 of the 40 tickets available for his next roast battle, with him possibily being not able to financially support the club in the future.
A Passionate Streetfighter
As we’ve seen in his interactions with Kavos, Noodles has a history of challenging people to fight him. But not in the a ring with gloves, Noodles prefers to do it on the street with no rules, no gloves, no shame.There’s videos of Noodles boxing, but like a majority of Noodle endeavors, its rather underwhelming.
His ambition and passion to murder his critics has become so deranged that even, his fans take notice and wish that he would get help before he gets himself into more trouble.
Now you would think that an individual such as Noodles, who is keen to fight (and possibly murder) anyone who makes fun of him, has probably been into some number of fights right? Well, not in Noodles cases. With all of the threats he’s made, none of them have come to fruition. Except one, which brings me to the…
Salvos Incident
Noodles was beefing with another internet personality called Salvos. *Its unclear whether Noodles invited Salvos to his comedy roast, or Salvos showed up unannounced. Nonetheless, Salvo ends up on stage performing, when at one point where this incident occurs.
Noodles comes from behind stage and attempts to push Salvos. Salvos attempts to fight Noodles, but Noodles has his bodyguards intervene to protect him. A b-word move indeed. Noodles than attempts to brag about this on twitter where his followers call him a b-word for pulling this stunt.
*Slight correction see this comment and this comment for more context on order of events
Final Thoughts
As mentioned before, this write-up only covers the surface of Noodles, with there being many more controversies that Noodle has found himself and probably many more to come. When I started doing research and the write up for this thread, I originally thought that Noodles was just some average lolcow with a bad personality, but after everything I feel that he’s severely mentally ill. I think what we are witnessing is a man going through a middle-age crisis where he is coming to terms that his dreams are dying and everything he’s worked for is crumbling in front of him. I wonder what the future hold for him as do some of his fans. I have this inclination that if he continues to spiral downwards, he might just rope himself. Hopefully his inflated ego keeps him from doing that.
Thank you for reading my thread. I will leave you with my favorite Noodles quote:
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I figured I'd write out something of a summary of Vordrak vs Kiwi Farms since it's quite possibly the maddest I've ever seen anyone get on the internet. It includes a seven month r-slur-feud, an entire school district being shut down after a terrorism hoax, a £10,000 lawsuit for hurt feelings, a £5,000 bounty on yours truly, and the typical swatting/doxing/mean words type of fare you usualy see in an internet drama.
For those who don't know, the kiwi farms are an 'internet culture gossip' forum that began as a Chris-Chan discussion forum and discusses/archives/mocks the internet lives of unusual weirdos on the internet. I've heard some subreddits are iffy about linking directly there due to the open hosting of dox, but you can find it easily enough through google.
Vordrak, who goes by the pen name Matthew Hopkins the Witchfinder, as well as openly going by his real name Samuel Collingwood Smith, is a Britsh ex-councilman, blogger, and obsessive g*mergater and wikisperg. You might know him as the guy who tried to blackmail an anti-g*mergate feminists patrons, or the guy who tried to get wikipedia blocked from the UK because they permabanned him, or as the guy who's building his own twitter with blackjack and hookers. His ED article provides a good rundown of his past, while his KF thread features this entire spat in chronological order, through it's like 100 pages now and packed with garbage shitposts the whole way through. You can find his blog directly by googling 'matthew hopkins witchfinder', but if you're interested enough to be reading all this garbage your best bet is reading the KF thread and following the links there to get it in chronological order.
Anyways, I first met Vordrak when he contacted me here on plebbit to try and feed me dirt on some enemy he'd made who does g*mergate or atheism blockbots or something. The first thing I ever said to him was that I'd heard of him before, he's an r-slur, and he's lucky he doesn't have a KF thread himself. He brushed it off (lol) and pushed forward with giving me his info. I'm not up on all that blockbot drama so I just passed his info on to somebody I know who is. That person decided Vordrak was far more deserving of being the subject of a thread, and made one.
The thread was basically a non-starter. People laughed at him a bit and that was it. If he didn't react it would have got maybe 3 or 4 pages of replies and been forgotten. We didn't realize just how insanely he'd react though. I don't want this to read like a fricking novel and I tried making it something of a timeline but verifying dates and shit is too much effort. I'll just put a list of shit what I remember, basically. If it interests you, I'm sure you'll be able to find the full story elsewhere on the internet.
It all started January 21 - KF thread on Vordrak is created
Vordrak quietly reports us to Linode for non-existant child pornography. They dehost us.
Vordrak reports us to our new host, Gandi, again for child pornography. They dehost us. At no time have we ever hosted child pornography, obviously.
Badly forged emails purportedly from the Kiwi Farms admin, in which he openly admits to being a child molester and stealing/blackmailing the KF community, begin circulating on 8chan.
Vordrak begins releasing a series of smear articles on KF, in the style of tabloid yellow journ*lism. I was going to link them but it's too much effort so just google his blog if you want to read them I guess. They start in April and continue up till now.
Vordrak shops for allies in his crusade using sock accounts and gets told to frick off basically everywhere he can think of. He tried wrongplanet, a bunch of autism activist subreddits, baphomet, /cow/, I can't remember where else. He also contacts every single mentally ill degenerate we make fun of trying to score allies, including actual p-dophiles (despite almost every single blog post he makes accusing his enemies of being pedos). To date, the only one he's managed to win over is a developmentally challenged neo-nazi from Metapedia, which is kind of sweet I guess.
Vordrak contacts everybody in KF Admin's extended family and their friends and employers, accusing KF Admin of pedophilia and his family of enabling and/or profiting from a child pornography ring. I can't remember everyone he contacted but it got to the point of going after the KF Admin's temporary host's friend's cousin's father's boss or something ridiculous like that.
Vordrak releases smear articles on KF Admin's mother, doxing her and revealing her unpaid parking tickets. Contacts her boss repeatedly insisting she is at the head of a child pornography ring.
Somebody who cannot be proven to be Vordrak, but is obviously Vordrak, impersonates KF Admin to send school shooting threats to schools and media outlets in his local area. The entire school district is shut down in panic and KF Admin gets a knock'n'chat from the Pensacola sheriffs and has to explain why an insane g*mergate nutjob is targeting him.
He makes threats veiled as 'warnings' on his blog that more terror hoaxes will come unless KF Admin is arrested, up to and including anthrax threats.
Realising he's getting nowhere against KF Admin, he starts targeting me. I get some cool smear articles too, and he also starts obsessively contacting his local police, and the police in Pensacola demanding they arrest me for international terrorism (I posted the Hatred intro meme), and p-dophile s*x crimes (I tweeted a peepeepic once). He even has a series of insane blog posts in which he photoshops more and more devils horns and garbage onto the Sheriff of Pensacola for his continued refusal to arrest me for being an internet terrorist.
Somebody signs up as 'KiwiDynastia' on ED. Along with Likeicare, they edit Vordrak's article to call him a p-dophile. Vordrak immediately threatens Likeicare, KiwiDynastia and Zaiger with a lawsuit.
Vordrak serves me papers over email, which I laugh at. I tell him I'm not KiwiDynastia, he doesn't care. So I laugh more. Our email exchanges are hosted on ED afaik. I'm quite rude to him.
Vordrak offers to drop the suit against Likeicare and Zaiger if they submit to certain demands ; namely reverting his article, banning me and KiwiDynastia from ED, unbanning him from ED, and doxing me and KiwiDynastia. They tell him to frick off, but revert his article anyway because the p-do stuff is unfunny bullshit.
Vordrak calls for a stay on Likeicare and Zaiger, taking his suit to court against KiwiDynastia. He's awarded a default judgement of £1,000 actual damages, £1,000 costs, and £9,000 in hurt feelings (literally says this). The judge specifically notes that he'll never be able to collect because I'm the only person he properly served, and all I have to do is deny being KiwiDynastia. Oh, and I'm in a jurisdiction that uses British libel judgements as potty paper.
Vordrak posts a £5,000 bounty on my dox. Before you get your hopes up, it's contingent on him getting a full payout from his lawsuit so like... lol.
I do a bit of digging into Vordrak's past to find out what all the Evanescence stuff was about, and track down a young girl he stalked and harassed for over two years because she got made moderator on the Evanescence forums instead of him. The harassment included her family being harassed, compromising her debit card information and IM programs (presumably with a keylogger), and even a failed parliamentary petition to call her 'mean-spirited'. When these failed he started slandering the band as p-dophiles until legally forced to stop. His victim was 17 when he started that. I post these new revelations. He immediately emails her threatening a defamation suit if she continues talking to me. That's not actually part of the feud, but I thought the fact that he stalked and harassed a minor for over 2 years is worth noting.
Vordrak gets our paypal cancelled by sending them emails or whatever.
And now, seven months down the line, just yesterday, Vordrak demanded that the British version of 'internal affairs' launch a full investigation into why the police aren't taking him seriously and arresting me right now for terrorism and peepee selfies. Apparently an internal affairs investigation is ongoing, because British police are just so darn polite.
That's basically an overview. If you took the time to read all that shit and want to know more, you'll have to go to KF, lolcow.news or Vordrak's blog to get a more detailed version, but at least it won't look (quite so much) like an incomprehensible mess.
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In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a hobbit-hole, and that means comfort.
It had a perfectly round door like a porthole, painted green, with a shiny yellow brass knob in the exact middle. The door opened on to a tube-shaped hall like a tunnel: a very comfortable tunnel without smoke, with panelled walls, and floors tiled and carpeted, provided with polished chairs, and lots and lots of pegs for hats and coats - the hobbit was fond of visitors. The tunnel wound on and on, going fairly but not quite straight into the side of the hill - The Hill, as all the people for many miles round called it - and many little round doors opened out of it, first on one side and then on another. No going upstairs for the hobbit: bedrooms, bathrooms, cellars, pantries (lots of these), wardrobes (he had whole rooms devoted to clothes), kitchens, dining-rooms, all were on the same floor, and indeed on the same passage. The best rooms were all on the left-hand side (going in), for these were the only ones to have windows, deep-set round windows looking over his garden and meadows beyond, sloping down to the river.
This hobbit was a very well-to-do hobbit, and his name was Messiah. The Manlets had lived in the neighbourhood of The Hill for time out of mind, and people considered them very respectable, not only because most of them were rich, but also because they never had any adventures or did anything unexpected: you could tell what a Messiah would say on any question without the bother of asking him. This is a story of how a Messiah had an adventure, found himself doing and saying things altogether unexpected. He may have lost the neighbours' respect, but he gained-well, you will see whether he gained anything in the end.
The mother of our particular hobbit... what is a hobbit? I suppose hobbits need some description nowadays, since they have become rare and shy of the Big People, as they call us. They are (or were) a little people, about half our height, and smaller than the bearded Dwarves. Hobbits have no beards. There is little or no magic about them, except the ordinary everyday sort which helps them to disappear quietly and quickly when large stupid folk like you and me come blundering along, making a noise like elephants which they can hear a mile off. They are inclined to be at in the stomach; they dress in bright colours (chiefly green and yellow); wear no shoes, because their feet grow natural leathery soles and thick warm brown hair like the stuff on their heads (which is curly); have long clever brown fingers, good-natured faces, and laugh deep fruity laughs (especially after dinner, which they have twice a day when they can get it). Now you know enough to go on with. As I was saying, the mother of this hobbit - of Landlord Messiah, that is - was the fabulous Marsey, one of the three remarkable daughters of the Old Bussy, head of the hobbits who lived across The Water, the small river that ran at the foot of The Hill. It was often said (in other families) that long ago one of the Marsey ancestors must have taken a fairy wife. That was, of course, absurd, but certainly there was still something not entirely hobbit-like about them, - and once in a while members of the Bussy-clan would go and have adventures. They discreetly disappeared, and the family hushed it up; but the fact remained that the Marseys were not as respectable as the Manlets, though they were undoubtedly richer. Not that Marsey ever had any adventures after she became Mrs. Messiah. Bungo, that was Landlord's father, built the most luxurious hobbit-hole for her (and partly with her money) that was to be found either under The Hill or over The Hill or across The Water, and there they remained to the end of their days. Still it is probable that Landlord, her only son, although he looked and behaved exactly like a second edition of his solid and comfortable father, got something a bit queer in his makeup from the Bussy side, something that only waited for a chance to come out. The chance never arrived, until Landlord Messiah was grown up, being about fifty years old or so, and living in the beautiful hobbit-hole built by his father, which I have just described for you, until he had in fact apparently settled down immovably.
By some curious chance one morning long ago in the quiet of the world, when there was less noise and more green, and the hobbits were still numerous and prosperous, and Landlord Messiah was standing at his door after breakfast smoking an enormous long wooden pipe that reached nearly down to his woolly toes (neatly brushed) - Pizzashill came by. Pizzashill! If you had heard only a quarter of what I have heard about him, and I have only heard very little of all there is to hear, you would be prepared for any sort I of remarkable tale. Tales and adventures sprouted up all over the place wherever he went, in the most extraordinary fashion. He had not been down that way under The Hill for ages and ages, not since his friend the Old Bussy died, in fact, and the hobbits had almost forgotten what he looked like. He had been away over The Hill and across The Water on business of his own since they were all small hobbit-boys and hobbit-girls.
All that the unsuspecting Landlord saw that morning was an old man with a staff. He had a tall pointed blue hat, a long grey cloak, a silver scarf over which a white beard hung down below his waist, and immense black boots. "Good morning!" said Landlord, and he meant it. The sun was shining, and the grass was very green. But Pizzashill looked at him from under long bushy eyebrows that stuck out further than the brim of his shady hat. "What do you mean?" be said. "Do you wish me a good morning, or mean that it is a good morning whether I want not; or that you feel good this morning; or that it is morning to be good on?"
"All of them at once," said Landlord. "And a very fine morning for a pipe of tobacco out of doors, into the bargain. If you have a pipe about you, sit down and have a fill of mine! There's no hurry, we have all the day before us!" Then Landlord sat down on a seat by his door, crossed his legs, and blew out a beautiful grey ring of smoke that sailed up into the air without breaking and floated away over The Hill.
"Very pretty!" said Pizzashill. "But I have no time to blow smoke-rings this morning. I am looking for someone to share in an adventure that I am arranging, and it's very difficult to find anyone."
I should think so - in these parts! We are plain quiet folk and have no use for adventures. Nasty disturbing uncomfortable things! Make you late for dinner! I can't think what anybody sees in them, said our Mr. Messiah, and stuck one thumb behind his braces, and blew out another even bigger smoke-ring. Then he Bussy out his morning letters, and begin to read, pretending to take no more notice of the old man. He had decided that he was not quite his sort, and wanted him to go away. But the old man did not move. He stood leaning on his stick and gazing at the hobbit without saying anything, till Landlord got quite uncomfortable and even a little cross.
"Good morning!" he said at last. "We don't want any adventures here, thank you! You might try over The Hill or across The Water." By this he meant that the conversation was at an end.
"What a lot of things you do use Good morning for!" said Pizzashill. "Now you mean that you want to get rid of me, and that it won't be good till I move off."
"Not at all, not at all, my dear sir! Let me see, I don't think I know your name?"
"Yes, yes, my dear sir - and I do know your name, Mr. Landlord Messiah. And you do know my name, though you don't remember that I belong to it. I am Pizzashill, and Pizzashill means me! To think that I should have lived to be good-morninged by Marsey Bussy's son, as if I was selling buttons at the door!" "Pizzashill, Pizzashill! Good gracious me! Not the wandering wizard that gave Old Bussy a pair of magic diamond studs that fastened themselves and never came undone till ordered? Not the fellow who used to tell such wonderful tales at parties, about dragons and goblins and giants and the rescue of princesses and the unexpected luck of widows' sons? Not the man that used to make such particularly excellent fireworks! I remember those! Old Bussy used to have them on Midsummer's Eve. Splendid! They used to go up like great lilies and snapdragons and laburnums of fire and hang in the twilight all evening!" You will notice already that Mr. Messiah was not quite so prosy as he liked to believe, also that he was very fond of flowers. "Dear me!" she went on. "Not the Pizzashill who was responsible for so many quiet lads and lasses going off into the Blue for mad adventures. Anything from climbing trees to visiting Elves - or sailing in ships, sailing to other shores! Bless me, life used to be quite inter - I mean, you used to upset things badly in these parts once upon a time. I beg your pardon, but I had no idea you were still in business." "Where else should I be?" said the wizard. "All the same I am pleased to find you remember something about me. You seem to remember my fireworks kindly, at any rate, land that is not without hope. Indeed for your old grand-father Bussy's sake, and for the sake of poor Marsey, I will give you what you asked for."
"I beg your pardon, I haven't asked for anything!"
"Yes, you have! Twice now. My pardon. I give it you. In fact I will go so far as to send you on this adventure. Very amusing for me, very good for you and profitable too, very likely, if you ever get over it."
"Sorry! I don't want any adventures, thank you. Not today. Good morning!
But please come to tea - any time you like! Why not tomorrow? Come tomorrow!
Good-bye!"
With that the hobbit turned and scuttled inside his round green door, and shut it as quickly as he dared, not to seen rude. Wizards after all are wizards.
"What on earth did I ask him to tea for!" he said to him-self, as he went
to the pantry. He had only just had break fast, but he thought a cake or two and a drink of something would do him good after his fright. Pizzashill in the meantime was still standing outside the door, and laughing long but quietly. After a while he stepped up, and with the spike of his staff scratched a queer sign on the hobbit's beautiful green front-door. Then he strode away, just about the time when Landlord was finishing his second cake and beginning to think that he had escape adventures very well.
The next day he had almost forgotten about Pizzashill. He did not remember things very well, unless he put them down on his Engagement Tablet: like this:
Pizzashill 'a Wednesday. Yesterday he had been too flustered to do anything of the kind. Just before tea-time there came a tremendous ring on the front-door bell, and then he remembered! He rushed and put on the kettle, and put out another cup and saucer and an extra cake or two, and ran to the door. "I am so sorry to keep you waiting!" he was going to say, when he saw that it was not Pizzashill at all. It was a dwarf with a blue beard tucked into a golden belt, and very bright eyes under his dark-green hood. As soon a the door was opened, he pushed inside, just as if he had been expected. He hung his hooded cloak on the nearest peg, and "Dramamine at your service!" he said with a low bow.
"Landlord Messiah at yours!" said the hobbit, too surprised to ask any questions for the moment. When the silence that followed had become uncomfortable, he added: "I am just about to take tea; pray come and have some with me." A little stiff perhaps, but he meant it kindly. And what would you do, if an uninvited dwarf came and hung his things up in your hall without a word of explanation?
They had not been at table long, in fact they had hardly reached the third cake, when there came another even louder ring at the bell. "Excuse me!" said the hobbit, and off he went to the door. "So you have got here at last!" was what he was going to say to Pizzashill this time. But it was not Pizzashill. Instead there was a very old-looking dwarf on the step with a white beard and a scarlet hood; and he too hopped inside as soon as the door was open, just as if he had been invited. "I see they have begun to arrive already," he said when he caught sight of Dramamine's green hood hanging up. He hung his red one next to it, and "911roofer at your service!" he said with his hand on his breast.
"Thank you!" said Landlord with a gasp. It was not the correct thing to say, but they have begun to arrive had flustered him badly. He liked visitors, but he liked to know them before they arrived, and he preferred to ask them himself. He had a horrible thought that the cakes might run short, and then he-as the host: he knew his duty and stuck to it however painful-he might have to go without.
"Come along in, and have some tea!" he managed to say after taking a deep breath.
"A little beer would suit me better, if it is all the same to you, my good sir," said 911roofer with the white beard. "But I don't mind some cake-seed-cake, if you have any."
"Lots!" Landlord found himself answering, to his own surprise; and he found himself scuttling off, too, to the cellar to fill a pint beer-mug, and to the pantry to fetch two beautiful round seed-cakes which he had baked that afternoon for his after-supper morsel.
When he got back 911roofer and Dramamine were talking at the table like old friends (as a matter of fact they were brothers). Landlord plumped down the beer and the cake in front of them, when loud came a ring at the bell again, and then another ring.
"Pizzashill for certain this time," he thought as he puffed along the passage. But it was not. It was two more dwarves, both with blue hoods, silver belts, and yellow beards; and each of them carried a bag of cowtools and a spade. In they hopped, as soon as the door began to open-Landlord was hardly surprised at all.
"What can I do for you, my dwarves?" he said. "Edbutteredtoast at your service!"
said the one. "And Snallygaster!" added the other; and they both swept off their blue hoods and bowed.
"At yours and your family's!" replied Landlord, remembering his manners this time.
"Dramamine and 911roofer here already, I see," said Edbutteredtoast. "Let us join the throng!"
"Throng!" thought Mr. Messiah. "I don't like the sound of that. I really must sit down for a minute and collect my wits, and have a drink." He had only just had a sip-in the corner, while the four dwarves sat around the table, and talked about mines and gold and troubles with the goblins, and the depredations of dragons, and lots of other things which he did not understand, and did not want to, for they sounded much too adventurous-when, ding-dong-a-ling-' dang, his bell rang again, as if some naughty little hobbit-boy was trying to pull the handle off. "Someone at the door!" he said, blinking. "Some four, I should say by the sound," said Snallygaster. "Be-sides, we saw them coming along behind us in the distance."
The poor little hobbit sat down in the hall and put his head in his hands, and wondered what had happened, and what was going to happen, and whether they would all stay to supper. Then the bell rang again louder than ever, and he had to run to the door. It was not four after all, it was FIVE. Another dwarf had come along while he was wondering in the hall. He had hardly turned the knob, be-x)re they were all inside, bowing and saying "at your service" one after another. Colin_Robinson, X (formerly chiobu), Chapose,HardIsLife, and MarseyIsMyWaifu were their names; and very soon two purple hoods, a grey hood, a brown hood, and a white hood were hanging on the pegs, and off they marched with their broad hands stuck in their gold and silver belts to join the others. Already it had almost become a throng. Some called for ale, and some for porter, and one for coffee, and all of them for cakes; so the hobbit was kept very busy for a while. A big jug of coffee bad just been set in the hearth, the seed-cakes were gone, and the dwarves were starting on a round of buttered scones, when there came-a loud knock. Not a ring, but a hard rat-tat on the hobbit's beautiful green door. Somebody was banging with a stick!
Landlord rushed along the passage, very angry, and altogether bewildered and bewuthered-this was the most awkward Wednesday he ever remembered. He pulled open the door with a jerk, and they all fell in, one on top of the other. More dwarves, four more! And there was Pizzashill behind, leaning on his staff and laughing. He had made quite a dent on the beautiful door; he had also, by the way, knocked out the secret mark that he had put there the morning before. "Carefully! Carefully!" he said. "It is not like you, Landlord, to keep friends waiting on the mat, and then open the door like a pop-gun! Let me introduce Eleganza, Aevann, Maydaymemer, and especially Carpathian!" "At your service!" said Eleganza, Aevann, and Maydaymemer standing in a row. Then they hung up two yellow hoods and a pale green one; and also a sky-blue one with a long silver tassel. This last belonged to Carpathian, an enormously important dwarf, in fact no other than the great Carpathianflorist himself, who was not at all pleased at falling flat on Landlord's mat with Eleganza, Aevann, and Maydaymemer on top of him. For one thing Maydaymemer was immensely fat and heavy. Carpathian indeed was very haughty, and said nothing about service; but poor Mr. Messiah said he was sorry so many times, that at last he grunted "pray don't mention it," and stopped frowning.
"Now we are all here!" said Pizzashill, looking at the row of thirteen hoods-the best detachable party hoods-and his own hat hanging on the pegs. "Quite a merry gathering!
I hope there is something left for the late-comers to eat and drink! What's that? Tea! No thank you! A little red wine, I think, for me." "And for me," said Carpathian. "And raspberry jam and apple-tart," said Eleganza. "And mince-pies and cheese," said Aevann. "And pork-pie and salad," said Maydaymemer. "And more cakes-and ale-and coffee, if you don't mind," called the other dwarves through the door.
"Put on a few eggs, there's a good fellow!" Pizzashill called after him, as
the hobbit stumped off to the pantries. "And just bring out the cold chicken and pickles!"
"Seems to know as much about the inside of my larders as I do myself!" thought Mr. Messiah, who was feeling positively flummoxed, and was beginning to wonder whether a most wretched adventure had not come right into his house. By the time he had got all the bottles and dishes and knives and forks and glasses and plates and spoons and things piled up on big trays, he was getting very hot, and red in the face, and annoyed.
"Confusticate and bebother these dwarves!" he said aloud. "Why don't they come and lend a hand?" Lo and behold! there stood 911roofer and Dramamine at the door of the kitchen, and Snallygaster and Edbutteredtoast behind them, and before he could say knife they had whisked the trays and a couple of small tables into the parlour and set out everything afresh.
Pizzashill sat at the head of the party with the thirteen, dwarves all round: and Landlord sat on a stool at the fireside, nibbling at a biscuit (his appetite was quite taken away), and trying to look as if this was all perfectly ordinary and. not in the least an adventure. The dwarves ate and ate, and talked and talked, and time got on. At last they pushed their chairs back, and Landlord made a move to collect the plates and glasses. "I suppose you will all stay to supper?" he said in his politest unpressing tones. "Of course!" said Carpathian. "And after. We shan't get through the business till late, and we must have some music first. Now to clear up!" Thereupon the twelve dwarves-not Carpathian, he wa
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President Yoon Suk-yeol of South Korea, who you might remember from my coverage of his lolcow wife, has run into a bit of a diplomatic scandal.
This ajussi thinks he has magical powers lmao.
Failures leading up to...
He went on a world tour that should have been a welcome escape from domestic politics given his low approval rating. But apparently his psychic powers aren't as good as he thinks. He failed to forsee everything going wrong that possibly could. First he went to London but missed Queen Elizabeth's funeral, blaming traffic for being late. Then it was on to the UN General Assembly, a place where all world leaders love to do a photo op and look dignified. He announced that he was going to have summit meetings with the Japanese PM and President Biden to b-word about Korea's grievances.
Signing the book of condolences after he failed to attend the funeral.
The Koreans want compensation for s*x slaves taken by the Japanese during WW2. The Japanese argue that they already paid massive amounts of reparations in exchange for the Koreans dropping all claims against them in 1965. Given that Korea never suffered the kind of devastation that China and the Philippines did, it really was a relatively sweet deal tbqh. So this is not a conversation that the Japanese wanted to have. They came out publicly saying that they had been talking about a possible summit but hadn't agreed to anything yet. In the end, Yoon managed to get a brief 30 minute meeting with the Japanese PM and no indication that the Korean demands are being taken seriously.
Yoon wanted to meet Biden to whine about how the American "Inflation Reduction Act" will subsidize American automakers and damage imports of cheap piece of shit Korean cars. Of course Koreans only care about free trade when it goes one way. This is especially rich considering that the Koreans have for decades been finding whatever underhanded methods possible to block imports of luxury cars from the USA. Yoon managed to spend an entire 48 seconds speaking to Biden, once again ending up achieving nothing.
Insane people demonstrate against beef actually being affordable enough for them to eat.
...scandal
Just as he was leaving the meeting with Biden, he was caught on camera saying something like "It’d be humiliating for Biden if those jackasses/idiots/frickers in the legislature don’t pass it." Presumably he was talking about the US Congress not passing a bill that Biden supports. This caused a lot of embarrassment because while Koreans might like to irrationally chimp out at America at home from time to time, they know better than to have their leader insulting the US government at a diplomatic function.
Actual footage of the average Korean's reaction to this news.
Yoon went into damage control mode and came up with an explanation. He actually hadn't said "Biden", he'd said a word in Korean that sounds similar. He wasn't talking about the US legislature, he was talking about the Korean legislature. Of course that just means that he's offending the Korean legislature too now and nobody believes him anyway. As some random Korean Youtube commenter said, "Mistakes can be forgiven but lies cannot."
Unfortunately I cannot find anyone who will actually spell out what the profanity was. The best I can find is "국회 이 XX들이 승인 안 해주면 바이든이 쪽팔려서 어떡하냐" with the word in question censored and the audio is way too hard for me to make out even after it's been cleaned up.
Sources
I've covered everything worth saying, but if you want to look into this more, we have:
Leftoid editorial - When you've got me agreeing with Hankyoreh about foreign policy you know you've done something wrong.
Centroid editorial - Basically saying the same things.
Rightoid reporting - They're not any happier about it.
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I stole this from... well... my own SRD post on the matter. I changed some things (like changing NP links to WWW links) and a couple of other minor formatting edits
Sit down here. Comfortable? Let me grab the popcorn. Okay, here we are. Let me tell you about a tale. This takes place in time where drama growing massive was not an uncommon sight. However, this... this... was different. We had never saw it coming. The Fattening was big enough, but we had thought we had reached the peak. Could the drama explode farther? Surely, there could not be something more massive than this?
But less than a month later, we found out that we were wrong, very much so. Reddit fired Victoria Taylor, leading to a firestorm that swept across all of reddit, leaving no subreddit unscathed in it's wake. This is... AMAgeddon.
It all started, when /r/IAmA, a subreddit dedicated to hosting "Ask Me Anything" sessions, had received a moderator mail saying that Victoria, who usually helps with many AMAs, was not available.
Because /r/IAmA would have large problems if it were to continue, they shut their subreddit down in order to sort their problems out. This was unprecedented, but still the calmest part of the largest drama wave ever on reddit.
In the hours following this, /r/science, /r/books, /r/music, /r/AskReddit and almost all of the 100 17 of the defaults would shut their doors, each with a similar message. Screencap of IAmA when it was private.
Many speculation happened over the nature of the firing, and some think that the Jesse Jackson AMA had something to with it, but this is unconfirmed. /u/ekjp (Ellen Pao), however has said that this now-deleted Quora post had nothing to do with it.
Tensions between the mods and the admins and the users and the admins would run high, with almost all admin posts on the issue were downmarseyd to oblivion, back, and back into oblivion again.
Edit: /u/jbranscum reminded me that I left out a very important part of this. And so, I have edited the OP to show you that these indeed were dark times, that /r/sexypizza had gone private. This is when we knew we truly had something different coming here.
/u/kn0thing makes a highly downmarseyd remark in SubredditDrama about the whole situation, which had sparked off a drama comment chain, to put it mildly. A subreddit, /r/popcorntastesgood, has been formed around it.
All was buttery, until...
/u/Dacvak, a former reddit admin, did an IAmA once the subreddit came back up made a claim saying that he was fired because of his cancer. This caused round 2 of the dramawave in SubredditDrama, and caused more buttery goodness all across the site.
The popcorn kernels would continue to pop in /r/pics, /r/videos and /r/todayilearned when they reopened, with users upmarseying everything and anything that had to do with Victoria. A reddit server was also aptly named that. Also, in this time, /u/kickme444's firing had come to light with [a post to /r/SecretSanta][
/u/kn0thing publicly responds in the Upmarseyd newsletter. I have copied-and-pasted the response here:
So. Things were… eventful this week. To put it mildly.
It started on Thursday when we let go one of our employees, Victoria Taylor, who had helped coordinate AMAs for the last couple years.
I can’t publicly comment on why we made this decision, but I can talk about the way we handled it—we screwed up. Victoria worked extensively with the moderator teams in /r/IAMA, /r/books, /r/science, and more to make sure AMAs went smoothly, and when she left, we didn’t have a great process in place to handle that transition and didn’t communicate it to those mods very well.
The mods of /r/IAMA, concerned about how things would work moving forward, temporarily shut down the subreddit. Many more mods, also upset by our failure to provide proper cowtools and support, followed suit. As you may have noticed, Reddit looked pretty different from normal for a while.
There’s a much more in-depth overview of what happened in /r/outoftheloop.
We’ve received the message, we’ve talked with a lot of moderators, and we’re going to get better. We know we’ve done a pretty terrible job at communicating. We know a lot of things on the site don’t work as well as you—and we—would like. We know there are a lot more issues and that the community as a whole is pretty unhappy with us right now.
I know apologies and promises feel empty right now, but that’s all I can give—with the additional promise that we really do mean it. We’ve recently hired a product manager for the community team who is working on new cowtools. We’re actively working on brigading. We’re figuring out solutions to improve modmail. But it takes time to make these changes, so they won’t be here tomorrow. But they will be here.
We’re sorry. And we’re going to do better. In the meantime, there were a lot of other really cool things that happened on Reddit this week, and we’d still like to share them with you below.
Edit: I've gotten word that the admins have responsed to this! /u/yishan weighs in here in the announcement thread here.
We were the chosen ones, dramanauts. We had fought, argued, popped popcorn, and yet, we made it. We have survived. We may never know Victoria's secret, but we will have emerged victorious in the end.
#Notable threads
Relevant SubredditDrama threads will be nearer to the end of the thread.
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Why has R/IAmA been set to private? | Original OutOfTheLoop question asking why the subreddit was set to private. Comments are now locked.
Why was /r/IAmA, along with a number of other large subreddits, made private? | OutOfTheLoop recap thread, explaining a lot of who Victoria was, and why subreddits went private.
A complete synopsis of the reddit blackout from the perspective of a pics mod. | Synopsis of what happen from the point of view of an /r/pics moderator
Welcome Back! (/r/IAmA) | Modpost describing what will be happening in the future in regards to AMAs in this subreddit.
The Recent /r/Science Shutdown. | Modpost about shutdown of /r/science.
[Mod Post] The Timer | AskReddit modpost about "The Timer"
We hear you, let's talk (x-post from /r/DefaultMods) | Initial admin response to the shutdown (there have been comments and more communication since then)
Dear reddit, you are starting to suck. | /u/qgyh2, a notorious user for being a moderator of multiple large subreddits makes a post to /r/self showing his discontent with how reddit is run. Drama inside.
AMAgeddon tracking | A full list of which subreddits went private during AMAgeddon
Leaked /r/science modmail conversation and mod response | This is a discussion between the moderators of /r/science, and reddit admin /u/kn0thing over frustrations about the event. This is outdated, and not currently relevant to the state of affairs, but I have included it, because it did become a point of discussion at one point.
Reddit abruptly fires AMA liason Victoria in the wake of the Jesse Jackson AMA. /r/IAmA mods, left hanging by the admins, have turned the subreddit private. | /r/circlebroke discussion about the event. Contains some bickering, but I didn't see anything too big at first glance
/r/IAMA is suddenly forced private; Victoria removed from her position at Reddit | /r/conspiracy discussion, with an appearance of /u/raldi
IAmA has gone private with no notice due to one one of its top moderators being fired from reddit | /r/subredditcancer discussion
[META] i got reddit's ama's shut down because of the Jesse Jackson ama | /r/ShitRedditSays post, with lots of drama all over the entire thread.
We apologize | Official admin response to AMAgeddon
News Articles
Article | Source
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AMAgeddon: Parts of Reddit go dark over dismissal of key admin | CNet
Reddit Is Revolting | Wired
Reddit goes dark for a day after moderators' revolt | ZDNet
Reddit Revolts With AMAgeddon Over Sacking Of Staff Member Victoria Taylor | Huffington Post
Reddit CEO Pao Under Fire as Users Protest Removal of Executive | Bloomberg
Reddit CEO Says Miscommunication Led To Blackout Protest | NPR
See also
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/r/IAmA set to private over mod firing | First SubredditDrama post about the topic and contained many links to posts
Reddit Live Thread for AMAgeddon) | Reddit Live thread. This will be updated with new information until it dies down more. Want to shout out to /u/wicro and /u/SlendyTheMan for providing many updates about subreddits and more during the event.
The admins have broken the silence with posts to /r/defaultmods and /r/modtalk | Posts in /r/modtalk and other drama related to it
We thought it couldn't get worse, it did: reddit admin claims he was fired by Ellen Pao for CANCER! | SubredditDrama thread about /u/Dacvak's firing
/r/secretsanta organizer and reddit employee also fired. | Reddit admin and Secret Santa organizer, /u/kickme444, was let go recently as well. This is the SubredditDrama thread about it.
Ellen Pao posts mea culpa; Redditors mostly unimpressed | SRD thread about the admin response to AMAgeddon
The Drama so far: Admins address users in the wake of AMAgeddon | Recap over the admin response to AMAgeddon
Send a PM if you think there are any other notable threads, news articles, or whatever that I should include, and I may update the post. This will be continually updated, as will the live feed. [edit i probably won't update this]
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Religious utopian communes in America have no bite to them. Sure, they build "community" and giver their members a "purpose," but they rarely have any real flair, at least, outside of what they merely believe. But holding out-there beliefs can only go so far in making these communities actually worth acknowledging. The most impressive thing they actually do is build barns without modern equipment, and that was the norm until very recently! Call me back whenever a bunch of amish people burn down Cancun and massacre the Spring Breakers there. Y'know, like the Qarmatians.
Crazy Qultists
Our story begins with the death of Jafar. Not the one from Aladdin, I'm talking about Jafar al-Sadiq, the great-great grandson of Ali ibn Abi Talib, the legitimate successor of the Prophet Mohammed (please be up in him), at least if you ask the Shiites. Jafar held an important role in Shiite Islam, being their Imam, or spiritual leader , so succession was very important, seeing as following the wrong successor could lead to eternal darnation. Unfortunately for the Shiites, Jafar's chosen successor and his eldest son, Ismail ibn Jafar, died shortly before his father. Jafar failed to name another preferred successor, so some believed that Ismail's son, Muhammad ibn Ismail, should succeed him. These beliers in the Imamate Ismail are now dubbed Ismailis.
The Ismailis themselves were divided into two important branches at this time: those who acknowledged the authority of the descendants of Ismail, the Fatimids (the ancestors of the guy I made this post about), and those who rejected their authority, the Qarmatians. The Qarmatians believed Ismail to have been the prophesized Mahdi, the final prophet of god who would bring about the new Sharia and end of the current era of Islam. To the Qarmatians, Ismail's death was actually him going into a period of occultation, and he would soon emerge to lead the faithful as the Mahdi. Sounds like the Pope could've sent them a cease and desist.
Being that the Mahdi had already been born, the Qarmatians no longer had to adhere to Islamic Law, so they rejected it outright. Here's a translation of supposed Qarmatian thought during the early 900s:
Truth has appeared, the Mahdi has arisen, the rule of the Abbasids [the Sunni Caliphs], the jurists, the readers of the Koran, and the teachers of tradition is at an end. There is nothing more to wait for; we have not come to set up a government, but to abolish law.
Almost -like (The Qarmatians of this time were likely acting on the orders of the Fatimids, so this could be a summary of Ismaili goals in general, not only of Qarmatians)
Bash in Bahrayn
(Or Bahrain, whatever. I'll be calling it Bahrayn to differentiate it from the modern country)
The Abbasid Caliphs in the early 900s were losing ground fast, leaving vacuums for new powers to fill. Great set of circumstances for the Ismailis who were attempting to assert themselves. Ismaili da'is (half missionaries, half temporal leaders) proselytized and developed communities developed in Syria, Yemen, North Africa, and Eastern Arabia. Ismailis attempted to establish Ismaili states and governments in some of these places. An uprising in Bahrayn, led by a Qarmatian former merchant , Abu Sa'id ibn Braham al-Djannabi, succeeded in routing an army sent by the Abbasid Caliph in 900, and established a state comprising the Eastern coast of Arabia, then called Bahrayn (the modern island of Bahrain was called al-Awal at this time). By the time of his death in 913, Abu Sa'id had conquered all of Eastern Arabia (minus Oman).
The Qarmatians of Bahrayn had some pretty wild ideas for their time. They practiced communal ownership of livestock, furniture, and jewels. There were no taxes, wealth was distributed among the community, and maybe the women were, too (may have just been Abbasid propaganda). Really makes you . If the Arabians had it all figured out way back in the 900s, maybe all those other failed attempts actually weren't real communism, and this is proof that their ideals do, in fact, work! Unfortunately for the Marxian hopeful reading, I've not yet mentioned how they procured their communally own wealth. It was slaves. The slave trade and slave-worked plantations was what sustained the Bahrayni Qarmatians. At its peak, there were about 30,000 African Kangz serving their Gulf masters. Qarmatian policy more closely resembles Antebellum Southern Slave Aristocracy than it does Russian Revolutionaries . Although, those may be one in the same, depending on who you ask. (Yawp is a shit book, btw.)
Mischievous Marauders
Abu Sa'id al-Djannabi was dead, and his son, Abu Tahir al-Djannabi, was ready to take charge of Bahrayn! ...In a few years, at least. He was still too young in 913. The first known instance of Tahir leading in his own right is in 923, when he led an army to sack the Iraqi city of Basra. He was 16. Basra was a fitting beginning to his rather violent career. Tahir's entire reign would be spent constantly raiding and pillaging. In 925, after the Caliph refused a demand for control over Basra and other Southern Iraqi cities, Tahir led and army into Iraq and sacked Kufa, a city nearby Baghdad. Kufa was again sacked in 928, triggering a full war between the Caliph and Tahir which almost saw the Qarmatian capture Baghdad. Tahir raided, stole, and pillaged Iraqi cities as far North as Sinjar before withdrew his army.
There had been some rather interesting movements of the celestial bodies in 928. Saturn and Jupiter came into conjunction, and, with the rather superstitious attitude of the time, something big was expected to happen soon. Tahir believed the upcoming event to be the reemergence of the Mahdi, so he was looking to do something a little crazy . Tahir led his army to Mecca in 930 and sacked the city. He removed the valuables from the Great Mosque, desecrated the Kaaba, massacred the pilgrims, and stole the Black Stone (a holy artifact attached to the Kaaba). Days of razing two the holiest cities in Islam later (he also sacked Medina), and our little g*mer was all tuckered out , returning to Bahrayn with the pretty rock souvenir he'd stolen. The Fatimid and Abbasid Caliphs were both appalled at Tahir's actions, and both sent their appeals to him to stop the violence. Both were ignored.
The Kaaba has a bussy?! (That's the black stone)
False Prophets
What good is a heretical pseudo-cult without it's very own messianic idol? The Qarmatians had been sorely lacking such divine figure up until 931. It was that year in which a young Persian man, of alleged royal descent, named Zakari or Zakariyya, was noticed by Tahir. Given the strange astronomical events recently, Tahir had expected the Mahdi to return any day now, and he believed Zakari to be that risen incarnation (none of my sources said why he took notice of Zakari in particular). And so, like any rational leader, Tahir gave complete reins of his government to Zakari. Zakari was the Mahdi, after all, so whats the worst that could happen?
This probably wasn't the greatest idea Tahir ever had, since Zakari immediately started fricking up, big time. The newly proclaimed Mahdi instituted strange and pagan-adjacent rituals and ceremonies, including the worship of fire, drawing accusations of Zoroastrianism. To make things worse, Zakari denounced scorned past prophets, denouncing Mohammed and Isa (Jesus , for any non-seracens). He insituted the burning of books and executed many people belonging to prominent families. This went on for 80 days before Tahir had to face the consequences of his actions, but only after his own family was targeted, of course. Zakari was denounced by Tahir as a pretender, imprisoned and executed, after failing to produce proof of miracles by refusing to resurrect Tahir's aunt (probably apocryphal, but it's the only information available as to how Tahir overthrew Zakari).
Between Mecca and Zakari, the Qarmatians lost much of their appeal, and were relegated to Bahrayn, raiding only small cities and Hajj caravans, far from the constant savagery of their ealy days. There'd never be another invasion of Iraq or sacking of a major city, their glory days were behind them. The Qarmatian community in Syria would gather enough men and allies to attempt two invasions of Egypt, but they were beaten both times by the Fatimid governor there. They'd stay a major thorn in the Caliph's side for a while, eventually agreeing to open the Hajj routes back up in exchange for a yearly indemnity from him. Qarmati Bahrayn itself would last into the eleventh century.
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First, let me tell you their motive:
Their motive was to psyop as a religious Karen on Facebook. Influenced by the legendary manlet known as @Landlord_Messiah, they formerly used to troll with him on twitter with the usernames ellie3kellie and figabig/abigafiga. With the untapped potential to troll Facebook r-slurs, they have found it very fun and entertaining.
Preamble:
First off, this isn't the first time they decided to troll unsuspecting facebook s. By posting in a Moms support group by larping as a middle-aged lady, they were able to bait r-slurs by MAGA posting. Examples include calling baby formula a sin (GhostArchive Link), frogs in ice cream (GhostArchive link), debate about jesus being black (GhostArchive link) and puberty blockers for my daughter (GhostArchive Link). Check out their Facebook profile for even more hilarity.
Info obtained from here: https://rdrama.net/post/93680/started-a-dumpster-fire-on-a
Now here's the drama:
It started with a simple meme. Over 11k cooments of pure seethe just by posting a meme with a mermaid and a confederate flag (GhostArchive Link). And they were seething hard :
Lots of in the above image.
Snappy Quote?:
Not even someone posting a link to the rdrama thread ruined it and it was eventually [removed]:
Obtained from here: https://rdrama.net/post/105044/jump-in-babes-moms-support-group
Eventually, the drama reached TikTok, Reddit, and Twitter.
TikTok video For those without an account. Unfortunately, it looks like it was deleted or jannied .
Obtained from here: https://rdrama.net/post/105213/update-on-the-facebook-ariel-post
It then reached subreddits like /r/therightcantmeme, /r/terriblefacebookmemes, /r/forwardsfromklandma, etc.
...your heritage as a fricking fish person?
Do not make fun of fish people. Mermaids are okay. Sugarians are okay. Whatever the frick this post is isn't okay.
Don't ever mock again according to these people.
https://old.reddit.com/r/ForwardsFromKlandma/comments/xg5yxk/never_opening_facebook_again/ioqdn5u/
They're such crybabies over a Disney movie for little girls holy shit.
If Americans cared about one another half as much as they do about Disney's intellectual property this really would be the greatest country on earth.
https://old.reddit.com/r/ForwardsFromKlandma/comments/xg5yxk/never_opening_facebook_again/ioqbjjc/
Ariel was a slave owner?! :o
She was part of the undersea monarchy, same thing.
https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/xgpbna/im_confused/iot58v9/
Fun fact about Atlantis, it was a myth specifically told to prop up white supremacy.
Atlantis is white supremacy sweetie. Some are questioning it.
https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/xgpbna/im_confused/iot35iz/
This has strong "this is what they took away from you white man" vibes but unironnicly
https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/xgpbna/im_confused/iot6stf/
Brought to you by the same people who say the flag is about Southern heritage and not race 🙄
https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/xgpbna/im_confused/iot27mh/
This has to be a joke
Like, no one is that fricking stupid
I live in the South and uh, I've got news for you.
Noooooo
This has to be satire
https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/xgpbna/im_confused/iotauyz/
Obtained from here: https://rdrama.net/post/105305/bussylovers-ariel-meme-continues-to-spread
This is the grand wizard of racist mermaid memes
https://old.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/xgm4j1/wow/iosk6sd/
My Uncle literally just shared this on Facebook
https://old.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/xgm4j1/wow/ioson9y/
Whats next? They make Obama black?
https://old.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/xgm4j1/wow/iosoadt/
There is a serious propaganda movement online radicalizing disaffected white people, i see it on reddit everyday. It is concentrated and intentional
Remember rdrama is a criminal conspiracy according to Bardfinn.
https://old.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/xgm4j1/wow/iosljnz/
I love this meme. It's hilarious.
https://old.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/xgm4j1/wow/iosm5hz/
Those who refuse to recognize and make peace with their history are DOOMED to repeat it. The Civil War happened. The confederacy happened. The Klu Klux Democrats happened. Tearing all the statues of General Ribert E Lee down and banning the Stars and Bars and canceling people because their great great great grandparents maybe owned slaves is only going to ensure that those awful things happen again, so.ehow, in the future to your children.
https://old.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/xgm4j1/wow/iosywo8/
black panther should be white
https://old.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/xgm4j1/wow/iotlszi/
Obtained from here: https://rdrama.net/post/105332/bussylovers-bait-got-posted-on-another
And if they're in Texas, FB can't delete it now
https://old.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/comments/xgyktp/what_the_hell_facebook/ioukbcx/
I mean I don’t really give a shit , I think people should be able to express their thoughts freely even though I may not agree with them
https://old.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/comments/xgyktp/what_the_hell_facebook/ioukv9k/
I’m disappointed in humanity, don’t engage in this controversy, watch Oldboy (2003) instead, Oldboy (2003) is something actually worth your time, this whole situation is worth shit.
https://old.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/comments/xgyktp/what_the_hell_facebook/ioullu8/
Obained from here: https://rdrama.net/post/105353/bussylovers-bait-post-made-it-to
It also reached a popular twitter account
Obtained from here: https://rdrama.net/post/105370/bussylover-got-a-popular-twitter-account
Bait account threatened to call the police on anyone who threatened them on Facebook as the drama unfolded (GhostArchive Link)
Final update: https://rdrama.net/post/106375/final-update-on-the-facebook-mermaid
How'd I do with the writeup? Broken Links? Did I miss anything entertaining? Post it in the comments with a link and it will be added to the post.
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Incels avert your eyes; this absolute kuh-ween practically made a career of BTFOing LV scrotes! Assertive, intelligent, and strong, Margravine (or countess or duchess or whatever you want to call her at any given time) Matilda di Canossa of Tuscany was everything a wxmxn shouldn't have been in the Middle Ages. Single handedly carrying the Papal cause, she alone prevented Kraut occupation of St. Peter's throne . That's right, tradcath LARPers, a WOMAN is the only reason you're not performing mass in German! Now, scrotes, save your impotent seethe for later, because it's time for HERstory.
Familial Foundations
Unlikely as it may seem, Matilda was not a direct spawn of the heavens sent to vanquish heretical schismatics. She's the product of house Canossa, a collection impressive characters on their own. The family started with Adalbert Azzo, who was awarded the castle Canossa in exchange for his support of Otto, first Holy Roman Emperor, a fact that will only become more ironic as the story progresses. Though initially minor nobles, the family's holdings in Northern Italy slowly grew during the reign of Azzo, as well as his son, Tedald. Tedald was virtuous, dedicated to the church, and his tenure was as peaceful as it was boring. The same cannot be said for his son Boniface's time in power, which was only mostly peaceful.
(Bony-face himself)
Boniface, like his ancestors, firmly supported the rule of the emperor. He'd support the emperor's campaigns against rebel nobles and make sure the empire's influence was well secured against any potential internal threats. In exchange, his imperial sugar daddy awarded him with additional lands and titles (as well as overlooking his less-than-legal seizure of church lands). By the end of his reign, Boniface was, by far, the most powerful noble in North Italy, having in his control the entire Margraviate of Tuscany as well as many counties in Emilia-Romagna. He was so powerful regionally, that Emperor Henry III may have felt threatened by his ostensibly loyal vassal, and maybe, just maybe, have had something to do with his assassination on a hunting trip in the year 1052. Boniface left behind a wife and three children to rule in his stead. The youngest was named Matilda.
Early Life
Boniface had children very late, and by the time of his death, all three were still minors. The oldest and his inheritor, Ferdinand, died in suspicious circumstances when the Emperor happened to be visiting (it probably wasn't assassination). The second oldest, either Beatrice or Beatricio (gender uncertain, maybe enby? ), died before Ferdinand. That left young Matilda to inherit everything her father once held, though she was still too young to rule, having been born some time around 1046 in Lucca. Her mother was to rule regent until her minority ended.
While her mother ruled Tuscany (alongside her new husband, Godfrey of Lorraine), Matilda received an education in combat and weaponry, uncommon at the time for one of her gender. She also frequently accompanied her mother and stepfather on matters of state. While Beatrice's marriage to Godfrey of Lorraine strengthened the stability of her, and by extension, Matilda's position in Tuscany, it likewise brought with it conflict. Godfrey was an old enemy of Emperor Henry III, and had once been in open rebellion against him. Old wounds wouldn't stay closed, and a controversy between the Emperor and the church caused another conflict between Henry and Godfrey to erupt, thereby involving Beatrice and Matilda, too. Men, am I right?
Papal Problems
The church, by this time, was deep in corruption (imagine that ). Corruption that had culminated in the selling of the Papacy itself, twice. A series of church councils were called, to reaffirm doctrine and purge the church of its corrupt officials. For the most part, these councils worked to flush out corruption, but they did create one additional problem. The reformist popes had relied heavily on the backing of the emperor to push their policies, with him presiding over the councils in which the reforms were decided upon. Emperor Henry III had accumulated a lot of influence over church affairs because of this, and had managed to get many Germans appointed to the Italian clergy.
In an effort to reassert the church's independence, Pope Alexander II was elected without the emperor's consent in 1061, contradicting the emperor's assumed right to approve the election of Popes. Henry III had just died, and his son, Henry IV, was under the regency of his mother, Empress Agnes. Agnes responded by calling her own council, which elected the Bishop of Parma as a rival Pope. The ensuing conflict between the Antipope and the regular Pope saw Matilda throw her hat in with the Papal party. The two sides fought for a while in Italy, but internal problems led to Agnes abdicating and the imperial faction falling apart. It's unclear how much influence Matilda herself had in this conflict. She was of age, but some evidence implies that she was NEETing-out during this period, still letting mommy and stepdaddy run things. Either way, it firmly planted Matilda in the Papal party of Holy Roman politics, and in opposition to the emperors.
Holy Roman Humiliation
A decade-ish (1076) later, with the Empire stabilized and Henry IV now a man, it was time for the empire to reestablish its authority over church affairs. The emperor demanded the Pope resign and the imperial claimant to the Papacy be instated. Unfortunately for Henry, he's a dumbass who instantly overplayed his hand after having just stabilized Germany, so when the Pope answered with an excommunication, he lost any and all support from his nobles and had to come to Italy to literally beg the Pope to absolve him.
Here we see Matilda intervene again in church politics (this time without her mother and stepfather, since they're dead now). She mediated the negotiations between the Emperor and the Pope, which took place in House Canossa's ancestral castle. After the emperor was made to beg outside the castle walls (in a blizzard , wearing rags , and barefoot ) for three days straight, Matilda finally got the Pope to allow for Henry's reentry into the church. And I thought Christians were supposed to be merciful
Unholy Roman Empire
After the whole excommunication thing, the Empire's nobles weren't so eager to accept their old ruler back. They'd gotten used to not having to listen to their boss, so like any uppity proletariat , they unionized (and by unionized, I mean they started a civil war). Initially attempting to stay neutral, the Pope was forced to side with anti-Henry forces after negotiations fell through. The Pope had two strong allies in Italy: Matilda of Tuscany and Robert Guiscard of Apulia, but the latter was busy fighting the Byzantines, so Matilda was left to carry the Papal cause alone.
Henry had been uncharacteristically lucky in this war. The anti-Henry party faced a series of setbacks, including the death in battle of their leader, Rudolf of Swabia. Some pressure having been lifted in Germany, Henry was free to march on Italy in 1081. Matilda fought the emperor, alone, for around two years, seeing much of her land devastated and titles seized, before Henry was able to threaten Rome itself. He laid siege to the city for around a year, capturing enough of it for his coronation to take place. However, just before Roman resistance fully collapsed, Robert of Apulia finally decided to do something, and marched on the city. Henry's army retreated, knowing they couldn't stand against both Matilda and Robert. Rome was deemed indefensible by the Pope's allies, so the Pope (who was Gregory VII by now), took up residence in Salerno, where he spent the rest of his life doomposting about how the rule of the Antichrist was nearing. The remnants of the emperor's invasion were defeatedby Matilda at the battle of Sobara, so significant fighting was over, for now.
(Gregory's tomb in Salerno)
The Empire Strikes Back
Five years later in 1089 and Matilda gets married (again), and the imperial incel Henry IV is so angry at the sight of a Chad getting a Stacy that he reignites the war. It could've also been because her new husband was one of the strongest pro-Papacy nobles in Germany, but let's not split hairs. The point is they're at war again. Robert had done the most useful thing he could've in this case, and died . His son, Roger, was much more receptive to the Papal cause, and actually provided assistance to his allies. Too little too late, though, since Henry was in a much better position than he had been 10 years later, having around ~30,000 men at his disposal.
The war was initially slow-going. Matilda's cities were well fortified, but she didn't have the numbers to face Henry in open battle. Things changed when Mantua, a city that had been besieged by the emperor for almost a year, surrendered after city officials were bribed. The writer Donizo comments on Mantua's surrender in a very dramatic poem, lamenting the city's glory lost upon accepting the bribe. You have to give them some credit, though, they lasted a year. That's more than most Italian officials last before taking a bribe.
Henry had the upper hand, and after bribing another major city to surrender (Ferrara), Matilda was on her last leg. After losing the castle Carpineta ((())), and Henry now being on the doorstep of castle Canossa, she entered into surrender negotiations. The emperor demanded Matilda recognize Clement III as the legitimate Pope, something she couldn't accept. Negotiations broke down, and Matilda was forced to face Henry in battle. For all intents and purposes, Henry had already won. Matilda was cornered, possessed less men and resources, with no way to replenish her losses. Henry should've won at Canossa, or, at least, shouldn't have lost so spectacularly as to collapse his rule in Italy, but Matilda had something Henry didn't. She had God on her side. She must have, because Henry's army was completely routed and his rule in Italy instantly fell apart. Matilda and her allies kept the emperor trapped in Verona until 1097, when he was finally able to return to Germany (where he was couped by his son and died disgraced 9 years later).
Matilda's later years are spent mostly peacefully, the only military action being retaking her lost cities. The new emperor doesn't reignite hostilities with the Pope and hated his own dad, so he's got no qualms with what Matilda did. He even names her Imperial Vicar and Vice Queen of Italy in 1111, as she'd built up sort of a reputation by then. Having that title doesn't mean much, though, since she died four years later.
(Her tomb )
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THIS IS AN ANTHOLOGY POST. If there is anything I left out, or got wrong, please comment below!
Who and What
Etika was a youtuber and g*mer who yote himself off a bridge. He had a lot of fans, so this was a pretty tragic event for a lot of them. Etika was so loved that there was even sadposting on 2b2t (the so-called "worst minecraft server") about it.
This is the first time the community has atleast cared a bit. It shows that we arent truly monsters.
NFTs. Whooo boy, how do I explain NFTs. For now, let's just say it is environmentally destructive stamp collecting. Redditors and other woke-left individuals HATE NFTs, because it is unrestrained hypercaptialism and is destroying the planet for profit while not producing anything of value.
What happened
ANTILA (Anti-Landphobia), an rdrama trolling group, tweeted that they were going to begin selling "etikapunks" - NFTs to commemorate Etika. (Unfortunately, the tweets have been deleted - if anyone has screenshots lmk) The first thread wasn't too big of a hit
HeyMoons posting Ls
Things didn't really kick off until it came across Mutahar's (of SomeOrdinaryG*mers) radar. As a result, "#etika" shot to the top of twitter, driving even more outrage
A genuinely good question for Landlord_Messiah and the gang
Meanwhile, on reddit, a thread on /r/EtikaRedditNetwork got over 1000 updoots and hundreds of comments of seethe
Hilarity also ensued when people accused SRD of being behind etikapunks.
Journ*lists also got in on the action. Several YouTubers made videos on the topic. One guy went as far as to ironically namedrop us. Here's a list of all the people that name dropped us.
Several dramatards began baiting twitterers with pictures of Bardfinn saying that he was responsible for Etikapunks, leading to many twitter users doxxing and generally directing all of their hate at him. This was simply too funny for that rat bastard carp to handle, so he pinned a post explaining that bardfinn was not behind etikapunks, and removing any post that implied this was the case.
(this is anecdotal, but there was a since deleted post to a livestream of a very angry dude talking about how pissed he is at bardfinn for doing this to his beloved etika. This is one of the funniest fricking things I have seen on rdrama - it is not an exaggeration to say that I nearly pissed myself laughing. if anyone has a recording of this, PLEASE let me know)
The end
Unfortunately, the fun couldn't last forever. Eventually, etikapunks got mopped.
One final thought - why the FRICK does wikipedia mention 2b2t's "monument" but not etika punks on etkia's wikipedia page?
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Hello, as many of you know incel posting has been a part of arrdrama for quite a while now. I'll use this thread to highlight some of my favourite /r/drama incel related posts:
In this first post I'll focus on /r/Incels and there are two threads I want to focus on. As an introduction to this point, /r/incels and basically every other incel place have done methods such a chadfishing to display the nature of women. Chadfishing is basically catfishing in which men create a fake dating profile posing as a very attractive man. Sometimes, people would try to make absolutely disgusting profile bios and see how well they work e.g. here with the respective drama thread.
/r/Incels drops the ultimate blackpill
We start off with an absolute classic: /r/incels drops the ultimate blackpill. And it's exactly what you expected and even more. [+700] [1000+ comments]
The ultime blackpill is this tinder profile of a child male feminist with the name Ray Perr () and anthem Young Love. His bio claims the following:
Aspiring model. Watch out for me in GQ in a couple years ;)
You should know I've had trouble with the law my whole life. Convicted three times for r*pe of a child (R.O.A.C) and once for sexual activity with a child but she turned 16 like a week later so it was super unfair but w/e.
I'm on tinder cause maybe if I frick some of you sluts I'll stop wanting to be with kids (unlikely lmao, they're way tighter than your beef curatin c*nts). I hope you can therefore forgive me for my past crimes.
As this is a quite a catch a lot of women matched with him and you can read the conversations on the link.
/r/drama couldn't handle it and one of the biggest shitstorm happened on the thread with over 1000 comments (!) back in 2017 with brigades coming in from /r/Incels, /r/IncelTears and /r/Subredditdrama.
It spawned another thread in /r/drama: 850 comments and counting! /r/drama cannot handle incels latest blackpill, nearly all the top comments are "b-but incels can't possibly have a point
As the original thread is quite old there are a lot of deleted comments but https://archive.ph/lCEoy is quite good. There is a LOT of infighting and here are some of my favourite chains:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/6skzz7/rincels_drops_the_ultimate_blackpill_and_its/dldk07v/
Oh shit, normies and chads absolutely btfo. It turns out people really are attracted to attractive people. [+289]
Don't know about you, but it would turn me off if a woman was a child male feminist, no matter how hot she is. [+225]
The fact that being a child male feminist isnt enough to deter someone shows that personality os completely irrelevant. Only looks matter in this world. [+29]
Holy frick this thread is getting brigaded by you socially r-slurred twats. Yeah, looks matter, no shit, but the only thing this really shows is that there's someone for everyone, even you, if you left your basement once in a while. It did likely deter a frickload of people, but you can't know that since Tinder only shows you matches. [+44]
Lol stfu with this. Ive always had a social circle of males and females and used to go out to parties and stuff. Got along and was generally well liked. Idk why its hard to believe that some people are just too unattractive. Ive always been well liked by most people. Im short as heck and look like im 12 (in my 20s) i dont know any guys like this that have any success with women. He matched with almost everyone he swiped with. Like 180/200 lol. [+21]
Idk, st. Elliot had typical chad looks (in addition to chad shit like posh car), and still was just unfrickable as the rest of you subhuman scum. I bet if you post his photos on tinder he'll get a bunch of women wanting to hook up. Think about it.
LMAO he was not even close to chad. He was like 23 and looked like a 14 year old girl. He was also short and had a small frame on top of being part asian. Not to mention a high voice.
Are you high? If I post that on Tinder with a generic bio, I'll have more response than that p-do catfish, I guarantee that. Nah dude, your somewhat above average looks is not what makes you all subhuman.
Thats a morphed picture you dipshit. Someone made that on /r/incels lol
Here we have people figuring out the women are wonderful effect for the first time:
I'm fricking stumped. Never thought /r/incels would be right I'm feeling kinda sick tbh. Those people on tinder fricking disgust me.
In other news, women are perfectly capable of being shitty too. What you don't see is how many women swiped left on that profile compared to an equivalent profile without all of the crime nonsense.
You say that, but that is actually news to most people.
I guess to most people who never interact with women.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/6skzz7/rincels_drops_the_ultimate_blackpill_and_its/dldqmbu/
Swallow the black pill.
does it feel bad being subhuman? Or have you swallowed the fact that you're never getting taller or more attractive?
Yes I have.
Dramacels admitting defeat:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/6skzz7/rincels_drops_the_ultimate_blackpill_and_its/dldiah9/
Of all sad words of tongue and pen, the saddest are these, '/r/incels was right again'
Dramacels slowly realizing the truth:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/6skzz7/rincels_drops_the_ultimate_blackpill_and_its/dldrvha/
Kinda makes me feel like shit, I'm not terrible looking, and I'm a decent enough guy, but out of 500 swipes I got 1 single match, and this child male feminist got over 150 out of 200. Edit: Is this how Nice GuysTM are made?
Welcome to the black pill
Son when, you grow up will you be, the savior of the virgins? the incels and the V&'d?
https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/6skzz7/rincels_drops_the_ultimate_blackpill_and_its/dldvg4o/
Are you well groomed, have a successful career, workout, dress well, take good pictures, and write engaging profile descriptions?
No it's definitely just because you aren't a model and girls are all bitches.
If you aren't trying, don't complain or blame woman for not lining up to bang you.
Also, I said successful career, not wealthy. Success is sexy no matter who you are.
I do realize you're probably joking, but guys really need to stop seeing getting a woman as just waiting for them to fall on their lap. Woman are attracted to men who have their shit together.
I mean, I do look good in my pictures, my few matches said my bio was very interesting and funny, I feel so disgusting if I don't shower every single day. I'm still getting my degree but I'm in college so I'm on the right track. My only downfall is that I'm a little overweight, it's not even a huge deal, I look pretty normal, I don't have fat on my face, I'm pretty strong and have been working out a lot more recently. I know my body isn't great to look at, and I'm not expecting women to just fall out of nowhere and suck me off. I just want some attention here.
Can Normies have s*x?
https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/6skzz7/rincels_drops_the_ultimate_blackpill_and_its/dldjxqf/
ABORT ABORT BLACK PILL TOO POTENT NORMIES ARE CHOKING ON THEIR OWN BLOOD
They're probably too busy having fun and s*x to give a frick, /u/MGTOW-Wizard
Normies rarely get s*x yo.
I'm a fricking normie (except for the /r/drama) and I got laid a month after being dumped by my ex.
Is lying about s*x on the internet a thing people still do?
Just cause you're too neurodivergent to get laid doesn't mean others are.
Lol this sub loves that word. I wonder why.
Questioning the nuclear pill
https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/6skzz7/rincels_drops_the_ultimate_blackpill_and_its/dldibhd/
the nuclear pill is that grills want to frick hot men? [+130]
you really don't see anything wrong with flirting and wanting to frick a child male feminist who's basically bragging about it? nothing wrong with it at all? sure maybe its just a hook up, but you find nothing morally wrong with hooking up with a child male feminist? and dont give me the crap about men do it too give me a legit answer [+190]
No? If you use a picture of a very attractive person, you're going to get people who don't care in the slightest how terrible of a person they are. You could do the same with a woman whose profile says she's murdered babies and I guarantee a plethora of equally eager responders.
It's true. I'd bang a 10/10 baby murderer anyday. In fact, that could make her an 11/10 in my eyes because I hate children.
Put a picture of Dakota Skye next to a blurb that explains how she is just out of prision for castrating and murdering her former husband for the sin of looking at porn and you will get way more hits than this profile did.
Men do it too
Not to defend incels but...their whole point is that society in general tells them that they're kissless virgins because of their personalities and how vile they are as humans. Their point is they're physically irredeemable ugos who no one can love, and they prove it by making these profiles. [+82]
Huge infighting here read the thread
Real black pill
https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/6skzz7/rincels_drops_the_ultimate_blackpill_and_its/dldofha/
Eh I don't really hate incels on this sort of thing. We've got so many people who put women on a pedestal, you've got the women are wonderful effect etc. Turns out women are are probably more shallow and judgemental then dudes, and that's the real black pill.
One final fight
https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/6skzz7/rincels_drops_the_ultimate_blackpill_and_its/dldr5lt/
This is one of the most pathetic comment sections I've ever seen, haha holy shit. Sorry you can't get laid, boys, but that's entirely your fault. [+13]
I bet you drown in kitty, I can tell it from the fact that you post in /r/drama [+29]
Why do you think this?
Bc they comment in incels
Remember boys, comment in incels and women will label avoid you like death, but literally r*pe kids and women will throw themselves at you
/r/Incels has been banned from reddit
Sad day for all oldcels: /r/Incels has been banned from reddit [+2258][1000+ comments]
This thread is 50-50 pooping on incels and feeling empathic for them but there are still some gems:
Pointless arguing about grammar:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/7bgypf/rincels_has_been_banned_from_reddit/
This seems like a bad time to go to school the mall or the movies. Or country music concerts. Or church.
Oh wow, you're right this really could be one of those silly geese's tipping point.
How much thought did you put into pluralizing geese?
It's plural possessive isn't it?
More than I'd like to admit. Did I do it wrong?
Just read it this shit goes on forever
Some mental health stuff:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/7bgypf/rincels_has_been_banned_from_reddit/dpidt1g/
It's interesting how in one thread everyone is fiercely arguing that we need more mental health services to prevent tragedies.
Then when we look at the mentally unstable people right here in incels who are in clear need of therapy and medical help the mantra is "haha get fricked stupid nerds."
True tragedy for drama:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/7bgypf/rincels_has_been_banned_from_reddit/dphzgvu/
What a loss for this sub, not sure how we are going to replace the endless parade of autism and lolcows that flowed from that sub. A tragic day.
Further proof incels are lolcows:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/7bgypf/rincels_has_been_banned_from_reddit/dphz2zu/
Why kill the lolcow that can still be milked?
Because the moos are coming from inside the thread now
Some based comments:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/7bgypf/rincels_has_been_banned_from_reddit/dphwssc/
The normies couldn't handle the black pill
Well when
https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/7bgypf/rincels_has_been_banned_from_reddit/dphxwpw/
beta uprising when
Something
https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/7bgypf/rincels_has_been_banned_from_reddit/dphweuy/
Frickin roasties man
Ed_ButteredToast pasta
Finally the most r-slurred comment and if you only want to read one chain in this gigantic waste of time - let it be this one:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/7bgypf/rincels_has_been_banned_from_reddit/dphwrxt/
Why would they take away our haven?
We have no safe place to chill and be ourselves or enjoy life.
Everyone wants us eliminated or dead.
The fact that violent Chads get hired more than basement dwellers shows how much of a threat society sees us as.
I feel like there is just no hope for us in America.
We get bullied by normies and then blamed for our own deaths.
We do everything right then when nothing comes of it we're blamed for following the program.
Incels are FINISHED on reddit.
That's why I tell my peoples invest in Voat... There is no future for us on this evil virgin-shaming website.
So, was this worth the effort? Did you like it? Do you want to see more incel drama posts from the past? Or am I just an r-slur for making this thread? Discuss!