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EFFORTPOST Catharine Mackinnon on Pornography

Admittedly, she is one my favourite feminists and scholars so I do have a soft spot for her even I don't agree with all her arguments. Catharine is a feminist law professor whose work has focused on civil rights. Her most influential work has been in the field of sexual harassment and has had a considerable impact on laws regarding sexual harassment in the workplace and in education. Consequently, her book titled Sexual Harassment of Working Women: A Case of S*x Discrimination, published in 1978, is one of the most academically cited American legal texts.

Before we begin, I should provide a few definitions beforehand. Erotica is a broad term that covers a host of erotic art including nude photography, erotic literature and many other mediums each with their own conventions and degrees of explicitness. MacKinnon defines pornography as a subcategory of erotica which serves to subordinate women. To explain it more clearly, here is MacKinnon speaking for herself.

For her, pornography is an enactment of male sexual dominance over women. What should be noted about her definition, as Encyclopaedia Britannica points out, is that “The distinction between pornography (illicit and condemned material) and erotica (which is broadly tolerated) is largely subjective and reflects changing community standards”

Typically, anti-pornography stances are based on religious objections and moral disgust at sexual behaviour individuals find personally offensive. However, MacKinnon takes a much different route, one I consider worthy of consideration even if I don't entirely agree with it. One of the biggest influences of MacKinnon's views has to do with her experiences she's had legally representing women who have been harmed while working in the porn industry. One of the most famous examples of this is Susan Boreman who in 1972, starred in the pornographic film Deep Throat under the pseudonym Linda Lovelace. The film became one of the highest grossing x-rated films at the time. However, years later Susan Boreman came forward with allegations that the director, Chuck Traynor, has abused her during filming. Furthermore, she claimed that she was forced to do several scenes against her will, with Chuck standing with an M16 rifle pointed at her just off camera. Furthermore, she claims that in the film, bruises from her abuse could be seen. Such cases have caused MacKinnon to state that pornography differs from other sources of media in that what is depicted may be fantasy, but it requires actual women to be subjected to the acts being seen. In other words, porn is done to women. As MacKinnon writes: “with pornography, men masturbate to women being exposed, humiliated, violated, degraded, mutilated, dismembered, bound, gagged, tortured, and killed. In the visual materials, they experience this being done by watching it being done.” She continues by writing “As an initial matter, it should be observed that it is the pornography industry, not the ideas in the materials, that forces, threatens, blackmails, pressures, tricks, and cajoles women into s*x for pictures. In pornography, women are gang r*ped so they can be filmed. They are not gang r*ped by the idea of a gang r*pe. It is for pornography, and not by the ideas in it, that women are hurt and penetrated, tied and gagged, undressed and genitally spread and sprayed with lacquer and water so s*x pictures can be made.” MacKinnon also makes that claim, without providing a source, that “all pornography is made under conditions of inequality based on s*x, overwhelmingly by poor, desperate, homeless, pimped women who were sexually abused as children”.

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Although pornography is a subcategory of prostitution, the kind of widespread research Farley provides from prostitution isn't available for pornography. Thus, we cannot be sure that MacKinnon is talking about token cases, or whether she is describing what the majority of what the industry does. Consequently, one can find numerous cases of women within the industry speaking both positively and negatively about pornography. For the sake of fair representation, I shall display two camps from within the industry talking about their industry.

On the negative side, a porn actress has recently accused a popular porn production company of sexual assault and abuse during one of her shoots. She claims she was choked, slapped and thrown against a wall until she bled. In 2015, several porn actresses came forth with numerous claims that James Deen had r*ped and sexually assaulted them during filming. There are also testimonials from ex pornstars who document several cases of humiliation and abuse on porn sets. However, for every negative story, there are several positive cases of women who claim they feel empowered by porn and find it to be a fun occupation. It is for these reasons that I hesitate to agree with MacKinnon summaries of the entire industry. There simply needs to be more research. If one is interested in the topic, I would strongly suggest the documentary ‘Hot Girls Wanted' produced by Rashida Jones which offers a relatively objective and neutral look into the porn industry.

So, what I do wish to focus on with regards to her anti-porn arguments lie with her discussions of pornography as free-speech. According to MacKinnon, pornography, at least in the United States is protected as free speech. Because of this, there is a belief that all free speech should be protected lest we fall victim to tyranny. She sums up the argument as such:

“The evil to be avoided is government restricting ideas because it disagrees with the content of their political point of view. The terrain of struggle is the mind; the dynamic at work is intellectual persuasion; the risk is that marginal, powerless, and relatively voiceless dissenters, with ideas we will never hear, will be crushed by governmental power. This has become the "speech you hate" test: the more you disagree with content, the more important it becomes to protect it. You can tell you are being principled by the degree to which you abhor what you allow. The worse the speech protected, the more principled the result. There is a faith that truth will prevail if left alone, often expressed in an openly competitive laissez-faire model taken from bourgeois economics and applied to the expressive marketplace: the "marketplace of ideas" metaphor. The marketplace becomes the battlefield when we are assured that truth will prevail”

MacKinnon problematizes this by arguing that although free speech exists, not everyone has equal amounts of free speech. Furthermore, the privileged have louder free speech or ‘more' free speech. Thus, in the case of pornography, subordinated women's bodies become the free-speech of porn producers (almost always male of course). Secondly, she questions why some forms of speech are banned when they target marginalized groups yet pornography does the same thing. In other words, hanging a noose in front of black person's lawn or burning a cross are all forms of free speech which conveys ideas. So is sticking a ‘whites only' sign in front of a store. However, these are regarded as prohibited forms of speech using a kind of rationale that isn't extended to pornography. MacKinnon argues that the free speech of pornography sends the message that women are to be subordinated. She writes “at stake in constructing pornography as "speech" is gaining constitutional protection for doing what pornography does: subordinating women through s*x.” MacKinnon argues that pornography, if it is speech, is a kind of speech (much like racism) that is harmful to society. She writes “Social inequality is substantially created and enforced-that is, done-through words and images.” Thus, by displaying women in subordinated positions, pornography conveys the message in society that women are second-class citizens that exist for the sexual pleasure of men. Now, for this claim, MacKinnon may in fact have evidence on her side. A study by Maree Crabbe which looked at the most popular porn found that 88% of it depicted physical aggression. Of this 88%, 94% of physical aggression was directed towards women. So what message does such ‘free speech' convey? According to MacKinnon, “the message of these materials, and there is one, as there is to all conscious activity, is ‘get her,'”.

The second aspect of MacKinnon's arguments which I wish to discuss concern the effects of pornography on society. MacKinnon claims “Pornography makes the world a pornographic place through its making and use, establishing what women are said to exist as, are seen as, are treated as, constructing the social reality of what a woman is and can be in terms of what can be done to her, and what a man is in terms of doing it.”

Now, there is an interesting phenomenon I want to discuss. When the influences of media on society are brought up, there is often a pushback. The argument is typically as such: ‘I know how to separate fantasy from reality, thus it is ridiculous to claim that media makes people do things'. On the surface, the argument is true. In most cases, adults can distinguish fiction from real life and it is also true that one cannot hold media accountable for the actions that they commit. However, within this there is an often overlooked fact that media doesn't outright control so much as it surreptitiously influences and, furthermore, individuals who believe that they are immune to this are often most at risk. It is often claimed that video games, movies etc don't contribute to violence. However, when one does even the most cursory research, we find that the complete opposite is true. There is in fact an almost unanimous agreement among experts that what we consume affects our beliefs and actions. If this were not the case, a multi-billion dollar advertising industry would not exist and propaganda would not be the dangerous weapon it is. In an article by Craig Anderson et al we learn that:

“Research on violent television and films, video games, and music reveals unequivocal evidence that media violence increases the likelihood of aggressive and violent behaviour in both immediate and long-term contexts

This isn't limited to violence. Another study by Todd Heatherton et al found that:

  • Compared to adolescents with low exposure to smoking in movies, those with high exposure are about three times as likely to try smoking or become smokers.

Yet many laymen still believe that media doesn't influence people. To explain this phenomenon in the face of an unquestionable scientific consensus, Brad Bushman et al posits that

  • One reason is people think the media have a much stronger effect on others than on themselves—called the third person effect (Davison, 1983)

In other words, everyone thinks that they are the exception. More than just media having an impact on society, there is evidence that pornography itself has permeated society. According to Maree Crabbe, among “13–16 year olds in Australian schools, 93 per cent of males and 62 per cent of females had seen pornography online”. For many of these young children, porn will serve as one of the only sources of s*x-ed, which is a frightening thought. Maree writes, “porn has become a central mediator of young people's sexual understandings and experiences. Young people are exposed to porn at unprecedented rates. Many young people discover porn before they've encountered s*x. They are seeing it more frequently, through more media, and what they are seeing is harder and more aggressive. Young people are living in an era of new sexual expectations, acceptance and practices […] There is evidence that many young people are enacting porn scripts.”. Part of the issue is that porn catalogues women according to their race and body parts – in other words, this is peak objectification where women are merely the sum of their parts. This is problematic because, as MacKinnon points out “Sexual objectification is the primary process of the subjection of women”. She also adds that this objectification is far from different to the worker alienation described within Marxist theory.

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Now if porn does create a misogynistic society, an opposition to pornography becomes a little more of a reasonable idea. For instance, oppositions to confederate statues in USA are often based on the grounds that the existence of these statues contribute to creating a society where African Americans are degraded every time they are forced to walk past them. In fact, similar arguments are made in South Africa regarding colonial statues. In other words, what these statues say is conducive to a white supremacist society. Could those same arguments be transferred to pornography? Does the proliferation of pornography create a male supremacist society? This is a very difficult question and, of the four horsewomen, I'd argue that MacKinnon poses some of the most troublesome ideas to wrap our heads around.

One criticism of MacKinnon and her theory is that it falsely categorizes r*pe as s*x. In other words, porn depicts s*x and thus could have nothing to do with r*pe. This is a rehashing of the “r*pe is about power” mantra. MacKinnon outlines these criticisms by writing that “some feminists have encouraged and participated in this type of analysis by conceiving r*pe as violence not s*x”. The problem with this, as MacKinnon points out, is that it fails to account for the fact that for some men, the force and violence in r*pe is arousing and sexually satisfying. Sexual sadists do exist. A huge deal of criticism towards MacKinnon has also come from Judith Butler. Summing up MacKinnon's views, in Excitable Speech, Butler writes: “In Only Words (1993) pornography ought to be construed as a kind of ‘wound' according to MacKinnon, because it proclaims and effects the subordinated status of women.” Butler's problem with this is that by insisting that pornography is subordinating, it limits the ability to rearticulate the hate speech as something that isn't subordinating. As Moya Lloyd summarises, “Dworkin, MacKinnon and Helms are, for Butler, actively and somewhat ironically engaged in rearticulating and reinvigorating the very discourses they seek to repudiate” (114-5). Thus, Butler argues that “keeping such terms unsaid and unsayable can also work to lock them in place, preserving their power to injure”. If one is familiar with Butler's work, it becomes clear that Butler very much favours rearticulation, that is, disrupting the relationship between signifiers and signifieds. Now, broadly speaking, I agree with Butler's theory. However, I feel as though examples of successful rearticulation of hate speech are few and far between. Language and symbols change over time, but hate speech seems to be very resistant to change. Hate speech such as BIPOC and queer are said to be rearticulated and have been used in different contexts, yet it's plainly obvious that after all these years they still carry their injurious power. In terms of pornography, there have been attempts to rearticulate it. Some feminists have championed feminist pornography which features female directors, sets to depict genuine female sexual pleasure and seeks to subverts the harmful tropes of traditional pornography. Furthermore, with the proliferation of webcams, amateur pornography which is not dependent on large corporations has been allowed to flourish, enabling a variety of pornography which strays from heteronormative and subordinating depictions of women.

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So, in closing, I'd like to ask the rest of you: In light of everything I've said, considering the fact that 84% of pornography depicts physical aggression (the vast majority of it directed towards women) does pornography create a pornified society? Is pornography, as it exists today, the proliferation of hate speech? Can pornography be rehabilitated to promote a healthier kind of sexuality?

For further reading, I would suggest MacKinnon's text Only Words as well as her excellent article titled “Feminism, Marxism, Method and the State” which, for me at least, has offered one of the most definitive outlinings of the purpose of feminism and what its methodology for action should be. It also brings up my discomfort regarding the relationship between capitalism and feminism.

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Mörk Borg is my favorite RPG of the last few years for its very elaborate aesthetic and great setting. :marseyviewerstare2: :marseywindmill:

Mörk Borg is a setting where the world is prophesied to end and everyone knows it.

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https://www.morkborg.com/

The thing about this game is that they've adapted a 3rd Party Liscense for anyone to make homebrew content for the game and be able to sell it. Already there are 1000s of custom campaigns and characters

https://exlibrisrpg.com/

:marseyembrace:

The core game is based off Old School Essentials with the lethality of Warhammer Fantasy and Lamentations of the Flame Princess. A more "rules-light" approach where the GM is meant to reflect the cruel and capricious nature of the doomed setting.

https://anyflip.com/crvdx/aiob/basic (pdf of core book :marseyantiwork: )

Cy-Borg is a sci-fi twist on Mörk Borg where the world is again doomed to apocalypse. They will allow you to take whatever from Mörk Borg over too as the world seems trapped in a cycle of suffering.

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Reminder to all the incels on this site
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:marseysigh: Ok incels...

The other day on campus I saw a cute couple. The guy was below average in looks, a bit chubby, like you could kinda see his moobs thru his sweater. And his girlfriend was drop-dead gorgeous, like skinny college sorority girl (you know the type). She was a little out of his league, to say the least. How did he do it? He had a good personality. Not even joking. He was happy, she was happy, it was really cute to see. I even got a little jealous too (jealous of what they had), it was like I was so mad at the universe for not making me a cis woman like her I just wanted to kill her and skin her corpse and wear the skin and lie with him, thats how it made me feel. Anyways, it just goes to show you how much personality matters, incels. (I was only a little jealous, i hooked up w my bf later and that was p nice desu)

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Average looks maxed couple :marsey2commies: in 2024

Me at age 21:

  • Opened my restaurant, breaking :marseysoutherner: even

  • Living :marseyjumpscare: with my parents

  • Working :marseylifting: 60+ hours a week

Me at 31:

  • Restauranteur & Hotelier

  • Travelling the world :marseyww1british2: with my husband

  • Multiple income streams

It's never :marseyitsover: too late. Don't give up.

!incels 1/10s are marrying tall white :marseycocaine: Brads now. It's so fricking :marseytom: over.

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PSA: You can view profiles with annoying CSS turned off! :marseyglow:

Just add ?nocss=true to the end of the URL!

https://rdrama.net/@X?nocss=true

You're welcome.

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There are aspects in this world that we prefer to ignore or have emotional distance from, r*pe, famine, genocide, torture. God said "thou shalt not eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil so you shall surely die" this is correct, but people view it as a misunderstanding of the concept of death. The tarot card of death just represents change, a change in circumstances. We are constantly dying, each time we have a new insight, a new understanding which changes our perspective the Old self dies and a new self takes it's place. Death can be physical such as shedding off an old garment, but death is something we shalt not fear.

People have a cognitive detachment from "evil", there is evil in this world. Evil causes suffering, it causes despair.

It is important for me as a Christian to be able to understand evil, because there is suffering in this world caused by God (natural forces beyond our own control) and by man. We are called upon to help people, place ourselves in others shoes, treat people how you want to be treated, and you do that by understanding and empathizing with people who have both been victims of evil and who have been led astray.

I don't believe in evil, I believe in balance. I think evil is based on ignorance. You can't have light without darkness, order without chaos, hope without despair, good without evil, and knowledge without ignorance.

People have a cognitive distance from the realities of the world, homelessness leads to intense suffering, but when was the last time someone took the time to someone experiencing homelessness, talk to them, treat then like a person? It is ignorance that causes poverty, we prefer to live in ignorance and detach ourselves from people who suffer, cognitively, emotionally or psychologically because the reality of evil makes us uncomfortable.

Genocide, leads to immense suffering, we can all acknowledge that, but even efforts to personalize people experiencing genocide such as the book Maus where the characters were animalized served as a protective mechanism to create distance from evil.

In order to call upon the will of God, to be healers whether it's psychological, emotional, spiritual. You need to not just acknowledge evil, but to take steps to understand it. In order to forgive sinners, you need to understand the fact that there is sin within us all and to look beyond the sin and view them as an individual.

One thing I have understood about the concept of evil, is that deep down although people do evil things, people whom are deemed as evil are often victims of evil cast upon them themselves. The point of confession and being forgiven isn't just to state what you did, but to explore the deepest level of the psyche and acknowledge why you did the action you did. Was it a trauma response from neglect that caused you to react in a way that harms others? Taking responsibility for your actions and being forgiven means delving deep into the underworld of the psyche and working through, shedding light on the reasons why you did what you did, and deep down you will understandma truth about evil.

Deep down none of us are evil, we are pure. We forget our selves and build up a psychological shell of emotions, insecurity, pain, suffering. Evil comes from seperation from the divine, we build up an identity, are given a name, forget that we are all of God and view ourselves as man individual and separate from other man.

Let me share with you a secret about the law of karma and do onto others as you will have done onto you. If you hurt someone, you hurt God, if you help someone, you help God, if you love someone, you love God, if you hate someone, you hate God.

This is why we have a duty as Christians to eat from the tree and gain knowledge of both Good and Evil and by doing so, you will realize the evil within yourself and be able to deny and shed it, and the good within everyone else.

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r/Israel foreign Nations tier list!! :marseysaluteisrael: :marseysaluteisrael: :marseysaluteisrael:, :marseyflagsouthafrica: :marseypearlclutch2: :marseysadcat:

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Say what you will, that is a poétique young :marseychingchongchild: man.

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Chuds at kotakuinaction are feeling vindicated.

Normies in the Pokémon Go Subreddit have page after page of noticing.

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This thread in particular all but names the locomotive menace.

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>There's only 2 genders, men and men who dress like Woman

:#chudsmugtalking:

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This thread discusses how the choo-choo update has ruined the avatars Pokemon Go whales have spent real money on.

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Redditors are noticing they're being called ugly by the Vidya company.

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Also you can only shame her a bit for not knowing Chinese flag since it's quite unique and showed in many places to your face. But not knowing flag of Angola, Nicaragua is legit not big deal.

Only US, Brazil, Canadian, Chinese, Japanese, SK are memorable and popular enough to know them ah yeah:

:littlestchuddy: flag

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I was thinking this randomly today because I was thinking how life for LibsOfTikTok must suck.

Sure she's paid but she will never be more than some chudette leading millions of schizos. Being doxxed is the worst thing that ever happened it's where she signed a deal with the devil.

I started thinking maybe it would be just as bad as being some famous porn slut both gotta hide in public and both gotta explain what they do for a living

So what do you think

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Maybe.... maybe Mao was right about the influence of academics...

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You are heavily encouraged to harass whoever ends up on this wall. They are soft targets.

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tempest


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HELP! HELP ME JANNY! REMOVE HIM FROM THE PING GROUP AT ONCE!

Geralt_of_Uganda

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Geralt_of_Uganda Do you think your coin can keep up with all of my alts?

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BrasilIguana

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Feel free to do this, just know that you are a huge kitty if you do.


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_ LET ME IN.


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!pinggrouplovers

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Boobtorian :marseyfoidretard: runs foul of her Abduls :chudmuslim: after questioning the hijab :marseyniqabpearlclutch:

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Why does she think dodo is an insult? Legitimately strange behaviour.

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:marseynails:

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>Rainbow in name

:marseysquint:

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:marseycomfy:

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:marseyxd: :marseyxd:

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:marseyniqabtalking:

I love muzzie women telling seething :ethot:s they don't want their soulless liberation so much :marseywholesome: :marseywholesome:

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!jidf what do you think :marseyphilosoraptor: will happen :marseyvenn6: to her?

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:marseygigaretard: R-slur vs :marseybrainlet: R-slur slapfight :slapfight:

Context: local r-slur @ChristoffWChanderson gets into an argument with self-admitted r-slur and :marseytrain2: @Retorque_Fila_Fatum because xhe :marseytransattentionseeker: made TWO threads in a row about the same topic

Apparently @ChristoffWChanderson took this as :marseyairquotes: spamming :marseyairquotes: and proceeds to throw an neurodivergent tantrum in the comments for the better part of an hour :marseylaugh:

My personal take: arguing with someone who has openly admitted to being a mentally ill :marseytrain: makes you equally as r-slurred.

In summary: :#marseynorm:

!metashit

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:marseypin2: x12

:marseydrama#:

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Lmao next level narcissism

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New Dr Who Dropping
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Most politically literate Palestine supporter

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17134510153012316.webp

You can tell by this tweet alone that he gets his understanding of history and world news from social media.

And where will October 7th be? Asking for a friend.

not equivalent

Now do Ukraine

i generally don't decry the crimes of America's enemies, given that it's pointless virtue signalling in service of empire. Russia quite obviously committed horrific, inexcusable crimes in Ukraine. but we fund Israel's slaughter of Gaza.

No, you don't generally decry the crimes of America's enemies because you're on their side. Let's stop mincing words about that.

you can believe whatever you want. i don't see the point, as an American, in giving equal voice to criticizing a country i have zero influence over where that public criticism is primarily used to justify arms expenditures. not my problem if you don't understand that.

It's because you claimed Gaza will go down as one of history's worst atrocities, yet you completely overlook what's happening in Ukraine, where even more people have died. Then, when confronted with such a tragedy, you write it off because America wasn't the perpetrator. Insane

Guy entitely socialized by the American educational system without a clue of how it actually functions

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Of course he/she mentioned those 3 !

Genuinely just a fish in water….

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Google overpriced code monkeys get the opportunity to help migrants and poor people. Exciting!

Blind discusses! https://www.teamblind.com/post/Google-CFO-confirms-large-scale-layoffs-today-Apr-17-ed7EJgSG

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