Male child whose mother claims is transgender goes to school as boy, troon seethe incoming

1  2019-11-09 by CrackFerretus

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this isn't over till that mom and everyone like her catches a felony for sexual child abuse

The court records have overwhelmingly revealed that the father has been forcing their child to present as a male, whereas the mother has provided the child the option between presenting as male or female. The court records have also overwhelmingly proven that the father is a pathological liar and is also a thief. He had a gag order placed on him, since the courts recognized that he was slandering his wife in the media and providing misinformation about the situation.

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https://law.justia.com/cases/texas/fifth-court-of-appeals/2018/05-16-01412-cv.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvjHn6QEgh4&t=790s (This references both court cases, including the one involving Luna).

So the 6 year old organically and independantly decided he wants to remove his penis?

No, she did not make this decision on her own. Luna received medical advice from both therapists and pediatricians, who after extensive analysis of her condition, decided it would be best for her to have the option to socially transition while a child. No surgeries will be performed on her for her condition until adulthood, at her own discretion. Pediatricians and therapists will absolutely not put children under the knife for sexual transition operations. At most, they will prescribe them reversible hormonal blockers when they are around 9-12ish years old or depending on the age that they begin to enter puberty. HRT is not even started until years after that and after more extensive therapy.

therapists and pediatricians, who after extensive analysis of her condition, decided it would be best for her to have the option to socially transition while a child

I don't believe you.

they will prescribe them reversible hormonal blockers when they are around 9-12ish years old or depending on the age that they begin to enter puberty.

Theres nothing reversable about stunted development you fucking autistic child predator. You fucking degenerates will be put to the wall sooner than you think. There's no such thing as transgenderism, there is autistic children being failed by the system and convinced of something that is purely absurd, amd alloeed to indulge in delusioms perpetuated by child rapists, and other predators who wish to surround themselves with mentally unstable children who've they have totally and utterly ruined.

You people need to die.

Go to the sources which I provided, which include an account of the actual court documents themselves. It is already well-documented in the courts that the therapists that Luna went to officially diagnosed her with gender dysphoria and recommended social transitioning as a treatment, if Luna wanted it. Also, there is no evidence that suggests that am individual with gender dysphoria is inherently autistic. If you are going to make that claim, then please provide some evidence to support your citation. If you would like, I have plenty of my own citations on the topic of transgenderism which both prove its existence and prove that transitioning is the most efficient (and only) treatment for gender dysphoria. Just let me know if you want those citations, and I will provide them at will. Also, FYI, telling people to kill themselves, calling them autistic predators, etc is against the Reddit terms of service. I would advise you to revisit those for future reference.

you're a predator and a pedophile preying on a 6 year old child. go join the 40%.

Also, there is no evidence that suggests that an individual with gender dysphoria is inherently autistic.

You certainly are, so are 90% of you, there's no study. There doesn't need to be.

Therapists are instructed to diagnose any child who says certain things as transgender. Doesn't fucking mean the kid wasn't influenced. Or that you know, transgenderism is a literal thing that exists or transitioning a child is ever going to beneficial to their health. Give me all your fucking pseudobablle sources, I've seen them all, and they're all flimsy bullshit because it's fundamentally impossible to separate the psychologically influenced and organic in current philosophy. There no physical markers, and virtually nobody without prior exposure to transgender ever expresses thoughts of transgenderism.

You filthy degenerates are all just former victims, that go around your fucking shitty forums and even the real world telling people who are mildly autistic, don't fit in, are unhappy, or are somehow not fully masculine(or feminine) that the answer to their problems lies in transgenderism. You're all so fucking predatory it disgusts me. Personally I don't know why the fuck every medical Association bows to you, but they shouldn't be. Your people won't be this prevalent in 30 years, and it won't be long before society at large sees you for the predators you truly are. Trans panic and "trans people dying every day" are more of your tribes made up phenomena that the media peddles, but one day they may very well become reality. I'd worry about keeping my future kids safe from you fucking rapists, but I really dont see society putting up with your bullshit much longer.

No need for a study? If that is the case, then science is fair game. I understand if you prefer to use your feelings over scientific evidence, sweetie, but Reddit is probably not the best place for that. Might I recommend to you a right-leaning safe space such as YouTube, where transphobes can rejoice in harmony with one another? You might find yourself loving someone like Ben Shapiro or Dennis Prager, since they are pretty well known for their emotional persuasion. I am sure it would be inspirational for you. But I am glad to provide some sources, since you asked. I shall leave them down below, and I will quote them as they are from the author who so kindly organized them. Unfortunately, they are quite long, so I will have to post them in several comments. Here we go:

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" For when people try to claim puberty blockers are harmful:

There is extensive research about long term use of puberty blockers, and they have overwhelmingly been shown to be very gentle and safe.

This treatment isn't just used for trans youth - it has been the standard treatment for kids with precocious puberty for decades. Most kids with precocious puberty don't have any underlying medical condition, their early development is just an extreme variation of normal development, but it would still cause serious psychological damage to start puberty at the age of, say, 6. This treatment has no long term side effects; it just puts puberty on hold. Stop treatment, and puberty picks up where it left off.

And for the lots of people regret transition bullshit:

This 1% "regret" rate also includes a lot of people who are very happy they transitioned, and continue to live as a gender other than the one they were assigned at birth, but regret that medical error or shitty luck led to low quality surgical results.

This is a risk in any reconstructive surgery, and a success rate of about 99% is astonishingly good for any medical treatment. And "regret" rates have been going down for decades, as surgical methods improve.

Being trans is not classified as a mental illness:

Being trans is not classified as a mental illness by either the American Psychological Association or the World Health Organization. Gender dysphoria or incongruence is recognized by both as a medical condition, and transition is the only treatment recognized as effective and appropriate medical response to this condition. A trans person who has completed transition, and who no longer experiences distress because the conditions previously causing it have been corrected, is no longer diagnosed as having dypshoria or incongruence.

On claims that the "Swedish Study" shows that transition does not reduce suicide risk:

That is a reference to this study by Dr. Dhejne. The claim that her study shows that transition does not reduce risk of suicide attempts while improving mental health and quality of life is a deliberate misrepresentation popularized by Paul McHugh, a religious extremist and leading member of an anti-gay and anti-trans hate group, who presents himself as a reputable source but publishes work without peer review. His claim to fame is having shut down the Johns Hopkins trans health program in the 70's, which he did not based on medical evidence but on his personal ideological opposition to transition. Johns Hopkins has resumed offering transition related medical care, including reconstructive surgery, and their faculty are finally disavowing him for his irresponsible and ideologically motivated misrepresentation of the current science of sex and gender.

That study's lead author Dr. Dhejne had emphatically denounced McHugh and his misuse of her work. If for those who don't trust the TransAdvocate article, she did so again in her r/Science AMA last year.

Edit: Details on Dr. Dhejne's often misrepresented study - it found only that trans people who transitioned prior to 1989had slightly higher risk of suicide attempts than the general public. The author attributed this higher risk to the vicious anti-trans discrimination people who transitioned 29+ years ago experienced. The study found no difference in the risk of suicide attempts among trans people who transitioned after 1989, vs the general public.

She is also the primary author the other study I posted below, An analysis of all applications for sex reassignment surgery in Sweden, 1960-2010: prevalence, incidence, and regrets, which found a "regret" rate of 2.2%

"Citations on the congenital, neurological basis of gender identity:

Citations on transition as medically necessary and the only effective treatment for dysphoria, as recognized by every major US and world medical authority:

  • Here is the American Psychological Association's policy statement regarding the necessity and efficacy of transition as the appropriate treatment for gender dysphoria. More information from the APA here.
  • Here is a resolution from the American Medical Association on the efficacy and necessity of transition as appropriate treatment for gender dysphoria, and call for an end to insurance companies categorically excluding transition-related care from coverage.
  • Here is a similar policy statement from the American College of Physicians
  • Here are the guidelines from the American Academy of Pediatrics.
  • Here is a similar resolution from the American Academy of Family Physicians.
  • Here is one from the National Association of Social Workers.
  • Here are the treatment guidelines from the Royal College of Psychiatrists, and here are guidelines from the NHS. More from the NHS here."

" Citations on the transition's dramatic reduction of suicide risk while improving mental health and quality of life, with trans people able to transition young and spared abuse and discrimination having mental health and suicide risk on par with the general public:

  • Bauer, et al., 2015: Transition vastly reduces risks of suicide attempts, and the farther along in transition someone is the lower that risk gets.
  • Moody, et al., 2013: The ability to transition, along with family and social acceptance, are the largest factors reducing suicide risk among trans people.
  • Young Adult Psychological Outcome After Puberty Suppression and Gender Reassignment. A clinical protocol of a multidisciplinary team with mental health professionals, physicians, and surgeons, including puberty suppression, followed by cross-sex hormones and gender reassignment surgery, provides trans youth the opportunity to develop into well-functioning young adults. All showed significant improvement in their psychological health, and they had notably lower rates of internalizing psychopathology than previously reported among trans children living as their natal sex. Well-being was similar to or better than same-age young adults from the general population.
  • The only disorders more common among trans people are those associated with abuse and discrimination - mainly anxiety and depression. Early transition virtually eliminates these higher rates of depression and low self-worth, and dramatically improves trans youth's mental health. Trans kids who socially transition early and who are not subjected to abuse or discrimination are comparable to cisgender children in measures of mental health.
  • Dr. Ryan Gorton: “In a cross-sectional study of 141 transgender patients, Kuiper and Cohen-Kittenis found that after medical intervention and treatments, suicide fell from 19 percent to zero percent in transgender men and from 24 percent to 6 percent in transgender women.)”
  • Murad, et al., 2010: "Significant decrease in suicidality post-treatment. The average reduction was from 30 percent pretreatment to 8 percent post treatment. ... A meta-analysis of 28 studies showed that 78 percent of transgender people had improved psychological functioning after treatment."
  • De Cuypere, et al., 2006: Rate of suicide attempts dropped dramatically from 29.3 percent to 5.1 percent after receiving medical and surgical treatment among Dutch patients treated from 1986-2001.
  • UK study: "Suicidal ideation and actual attempts reduced after transition, with 63% thinking about or attempting suicide more before they transitioned and only 3% thinking about or attempting suicide more post-transition.
  • Smith Y, 2005: Participants improved on 13 out of 14 mental health measures after receiving treatments.
  • Lawrence, 2003: Surveyed post-op trans folk: "Participants reported overwhelmingly that they were happy with their SRS results and that SRS had greatly improved the quality of their lives

There are a lot of studies showing that transition improves mental health and quality of life while reducing dysphoria.Not to mention this 2010 meta-analysis of 28 different studies, which found that transition is extremely effective at reducing dysphoria and improving quality of life.

Condemnation of "conversion therapy" attempting to change the gender identities of trans people:

" For the whole "trans people didn't exist until 15 years ago" shit, here's my default post/list of links:

  • Chevalier d'Eon (1728-1810) - French diplomat, spy, freemason, and soldier who fought in the Seven Years' War, who transitioned at the age of 49 and lived the remaining 33 years of her life as a woman.
  • Surgeon James Barry (1789-1865) - Trans man and military surgeon in the British army.
  • Albert Cashier (1843-1915) - Trans man who served in the US Civil War.
  • Harry Allen (1882-1922) - Trans man who was the subject of sensationalistic newspaper coverage for his string of petty crimes.
  • Lili Elbe (1882-1931) - Trans woman who underwent surgery in 1930 with Dr. Magnus Hirschfeld, who ran one of the first dedicated medical facilities for trans patients.
  • Karl M. Baer (1885-1956) - Trans man who underwent reconstructive surgery (the details of which are not known) in 1906, and was legally recognized as male in Germany in 1907.
  • Dr. Alan Hart (1890-1962) - Groundbreaking radiologist who pioneered the use of x-ray photography in tuberculosis detection, and in 1917 he became one of the first trans men to undergo hysterectomy and gonadectomy in the US.
  • Dr. Michael Dillon (1915-1962) - British physician who updated his birth certificate to Male in the early 1940's, and in 1946 became the first trans man to undergo phalloplasty.
  • Willmer "Little Ax" Broadnax (1916-1992) - early 20th century gospel quartet singer.
  • Christine Jorgensen (1926-1989) - The first widely known trans woman in the US in 1952, after her surgery attracted medical attention.

And while until recently there has been no place in modern US/European culture for people with gender identities and lives atypical to their sex at birth to exist publicly, that isn't true in other times and cultures. Throughout the middle east and Asia there have been Hijra visible in public life for hundreds or even thousands of years. The same is true of Kathoey in Thailand, Muxe in Zapotec culture in Mexico, various two-spirit identities found in indigenous American cultures, Māhū in traditional Hawaiian/Tahitian/Maohi cultures, the Fa'afafine of Samoa, Tongan Fakaleiti, the Sworn Virgins of the Balkans, the Galli of Ancient Rome, etc.

And of course, humans are not the only animals. While we can't interview animals, and gender identity is harder to identify visually in animals than something like same-gender sexual activity is, we sure as hell have observed a lot of animals displaying instinctive behavior typically associated with the other sex. And there very certainly is evidenceof congenital, neurologically based sexually specific behavior in animals."

And of course, full credit to the fine individual who compiled this information. Here is the original post in which all of this is quoted and sourced from: https://www.reddit.com/r/lgbt/comments/8wh5qs/my_master_list_of_trans_health_citations_in/

You want an applause for copying and pasting a liberal smugpost copy pasta, or due you expect anyone to engage with your copypasted piles of links.

No, to be honest, people who are transphobic usually lack the intellectual capacity to analyze the evidence. It is always there for those who are interested in actually researching the information for themselves. But you know what, that is alright. Because feelings over facts, right? I understand if it is too difficult to understand, but I have something that is more on your level that I think you can grasp the fundamental of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq8DRz3yXLI

When you fart, do you bend over backwards so you can get high off the smell of it?

Nah mate, I think you are the only one who does that. I am not really that interested in hearing that part of your life story, but thanks for the consideration.

you do something

no you

Excuse me, the proper response is "no u". What is this "no you" peasantry?

deflects with jokes

You can have the past word in this thread, I understand how much it means to you autists.

Sorry sweetheart, but I am not a Genji main. No deflecting here. Matrix is the way to go.

Why even transition if you’re so intent on behaving like a woman

TIL that acting like a man apparently means being an aggressive bigot who hates anyone who is different than them.

Also, I find it a bit odd that you would accuse someone who is fully asexual and fully aromantic of being a sexual predator. Mind you, I am not sure what kind of role play you are into, but I would advise that you keep your fantasies to yourself. It is not very mature to go around talking that way about children.

someone who is fully asexual and fully aromantic of being a sexual predator

Why is it every autist has the same stupid retort when they're called out for being child predators. "I'll have you know I don't even have sex with adults. Clearly, you must be a child rapist and or raped as a child"

You all say it like it's clever and unique and it never gets old.

Yeah, mate. I do not have an attraction to anyone, regardless of their age.

Okay retard

40% yourself

What?

*he

you are also a he.

you will never be a woman.

you have XY chromosomes and a 6 oclock shadow. get out freak.

Aw, look at you being all supportive all of a sudden. I am glad that you see me as a man, since that is exactly what I am transitioning to. However, unfortunately as much as I would love to, I do not actually have XY chromosomes. But you are correct that I am a he and that I will never be a woman. Keep up with the kind support. That was not so hard, was it? ♥️

i would like to support you by kindly inviting you to join the 40% before the islamic revolution comes and we throw you into a volcano anyways inshallah

No thanks, I am too busy converting people to the religion of transgenderism and trying to force the entire world into being transgender with my apparently godly transgender powers. Apparently I am supposed to be destroying Western Civilization or something? I figured I should probably not be procrastinating that, you know? The problem is, conservatives do not seem to be able to tell me how it is that I am supposed to harness these intrinsic transgender powers that are supposed to be so destructive to the world. Let me know if you have any ideas. I can wait, sweetheart.

cope harder you degenerate freak

Well allegedly I should be a regenerative freak, since my godly transgender powers should be unstoppable.

Show bobs and surgican vagene

Again, what?

Its like RAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIN!
On a feminine penis!

Again, what?

What a retarded comment

a child shouldn't have the chance to present as the opposite sex until 18 years old dumbfuck

Why not? All scientific evidence suggests that gender transitions for gender dysphoria improve life quality and reduce the dysphoria in the vast majority of cases. Are you admitting that you are more interested in forcing a child to suffer from anguish, simply because it does not fit your political or religious narrative, despite those narratives being objectively falsified by the scientific and medical communities? Also, you seem awfully obsessed with the topic of pedophilia. I do not suppose you would be projecting? Statistically, Christian priests have higher rates of predatory behavior than transgender individuals ever have.

you're a nasty troon trying to prey on children. join the 40%.

God you're such a fucking autist, there's no fucking scientific evidence on the long term outcome on influenced children for the horrendous ritual you degenerates force on them because You've only been allowed to ruin children like this for 3 or 4 years. You people live between a delusional, made up self affirming presentation of happiness and become immediately suicide when you realize what you've done. When you kill yourselves you claim it's because you didn't get to transition enough or because people are to mean, and when you present as happy the idea you're lying to yourself is simply preposterous. We know the truth. You're all miserable and pretending not to be.

If I am autistic, then can you provide a citation proving that transgender people are all autistic by causal relationships? You keep making a lot of claims, but I have yet to see you cite any of your sources.

You're such a sperg this conversation is getting too stale. You've somehow convinced all the bleeding heart doctors and researchers to skew everything in your favor, there is no research. I live in the real world however, And anyone who isn't a complete retard like yourself can see the same shit.

Source?

A source. I need a source.

Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.

No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.

You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.

Do you have a degree in that field?

A college degree? In that field?

Then your arguments are invalid.

No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.

Correlation does not equal causation.

CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.

You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.

Nope, still haven't.

I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a glormpf supporter. A moron.

Wow, all 308 pages of user history. Are you really that in love? What an honor that I have a new fan. Maybe you should follow my page, since you seem to really enjoy it. Hey, buddy. I can cite my own sources on the topic, and I gladly will. In fact, someone has already compiled it for this very topic, and you can access the list through one link. Peer-reviewed scholarly studies, medical journals, etc -- you name it. Just follow the link at the bottom of the comment, and you will find all the sources neatly organized.

But come now, surely you have better than empty insults, right? You are not making any claims, which does not seem to get us anywhere, now does it? Also, do you have a college degree in that field? If not, then by your own logic, your own arguments are invalid. So then why are you trying to legislate those opinions? Seems a bit silly. Seriously though, just tell me if you ever need help in your own transition, if it ever turns out that you feel that way yourself. I would not want to leave someone who is in need hanging.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/lgbt/comments/8wh5qs/my_master_list_of_trans_health_citations_in/

When cornered, and after eating a hefty serving of copy pasta, the autistic resorts too his two favorite misuses of self defence, neither of which pass anywhere in the world outside of reddit: retarded smugposting and overwrites citation spam

The autist cries out in smug as he screams at you.

What, are you not interested in scientific data? If you need me to, I can always find someone on a more elementary level, if you need more help understanding. Actually, I know just the thing. This might be more on your level: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq8DRz3yXLI Hopefully you can understand that one alright. If not, then I can attempt to find something a bit more simplified, though that might not be as easy.

God you're all so fucking self centered and smug. No, I have better things to do than read through dozens and dozens of fucking articles, I'm not an always online person like every troon seems to be. You don't get to drop dozens of links then when I don't read strut around like a smug retard who thinks he has proven his point.

Well if you do not have time to read dozens of articles, then why do you have the time to be bigoted on the internet? If you cannot even educate yourself on the basics of biology, then are you going to go around attempting to deny all biological science while completely ignoring all research into the field? Why should it be any different for other topics within science? I can provide you the data, but I cannot force you to read it. My point is, if you are going to try to lecture other people on the topic, then at least have a remotely decent understanding of said topic. At least attempt to provide data of your own, or at least address any of the data provided which counters your points.

why do you have the time to be bigoted on the interne

Calling you a retard isn't time consuming, sorry I'm not going to give a response to your four fucking characterlimit link spam, If your point was to have a conversation you'd limit it lower, you're just doing the autistic redditor "you won't read all my links, you uneducated retard, I have clearly won this argument" that nobody but you believes.

So basically you are just trying to harass people on the internet? You have time for that but no time to actually research something educational?

Yeah sure, I'm here to bother you, and I'm not here to go on several hours of research, those two things being a binary in which I must fall into one category of.

At this I'm replying to bother you.

You might want to find someone else then, hun. I am not quick to anger.

I am not quick to anger.

Sure

I am quite confident in that, yes.

Hi quite confident in that, yes., I'm dad.

Thank you. What a blessing from this almighty bot.

The biggest lie you’ve told so far.

Then try better.

Out stupid rightoid.

HER FATHER IS JUST FORCING HER BACK IN THE CLOSET, BIGOT

someone is unironically making this argument here and i want nothing more than full blown shariah law

The question is does the judge now feel retarded or is she upset that this girl with a penis was brainwashed by her father to believe she's a boy

History is going to look back on these years and conclude that sometimes it is better to forget history.