1) make healthcare shitty purpose on bad to loot it and destroy it
2) use state of the healthcare system after you made it bad on purpose as proof that it is inherently bad
3) crooked tooth poor gammons who depend on government run health care see the state of the healthcare system, and vote for the people that will make it so they get nothing instead
4) snorts a line of fentanyl off of a Rupert Murdoch commemorative Manchester United plate
I will admit that despite medicare ranking higher in patient satisfaction than private insurers and costing less, it would be better if it adopted the Comcast method of business.
ah yes, that old chestnut, pick an incredibly specific statistic and pretend it represents every facet of healthcare, a multi trillion dollar industry. behold the superior conservative facts and logic. where is the free market capitalist pandemic team after the government one was cut to give tax cuts to billionaires? where is the free market response to that genius?
do u like NASCAR? do u like dale earnhardt? do u like dale earnhardt junior?
Do you like government healthcare saying we can’t do anything and letting people over 65 to die without treatment because they are past there prime tax paying years? And have no hope of breeding more slaves for the jews?
S you're saying a conservative government who wants to get rid of healthcare wanting to kill the elderly, is proof that government healthcare is inherently bad. Because someone is intentionally sabotaging it. I can't imagine how smart you think you sound right now. Are u mentally retarded? a gay? or both?
The US replaced "divine mandate just because" with "money means god gave it to you and you have a money divine mandate" so there is almost no difference.
haha yeah white people would make great decisions if they were all on their own like a midwestern farmer inviting corporations to permanently contaminate his land and give him cancer amirite kangz
Conservatives the world around are like this. Thomas Frank said it best:
“For decades, Americans have experienced a populist uprising that only benefits the people it is supposed to be targeting.... The angry workers, mighty in their numbers, are marching irresistibly against the arrogant. They are shaking their fists at the sons of privilege. They are laughing at the dainty affectations of the Leawoof toffs. They are massing at the gates of Mission Hills, hoisting the black flag, and while the millionaires tremble in their mansions, they are bellowing out their terrifying demands. 'We are here,' they scream, 'to cut your taxes.”
You have no logic to justify your position. You have no pathos or ethos to justify your biased opinions. You started the playing to the extremes I just played along. If you want to make a salient point about the benefits of government anything including healthcare over free market anything including healthcare. Go for it none of this rural people are stupid shit. Make a real salient point and I will refute it or admit your right
There are numerous market failures present in healthcare
Are those failures more prevalent in government run healthcare systems?
Seems like pandemic if you want a vaccine or a bed is working a lot better in market based healthcare than government run healthcare.
Notice the drugs being used are created in a market based healthcare system. And the people running the hospitals are subject to criteria ie profitability to at least be somewhat competent at their job. Whereas government based healthcare like in Italy they leave people over 65 to die. And in U.K. they don’t even try.
Are those failures more prevalent in government run healthcare systems?
They aren't.
Seems like pandemic if you want a vaccine or a bed is working a lot better in market based healthcare than government run healthcare.
In no universe is this the case.
Notice the drugs being used are created in a market based healthcare system. And the people running the hospitals are subject to criteria ie profitability to at least be somewhat competent at their job. Whereas government based healthcare like in Italy they leave people over 65 to die. And in U.K. they don’t even try.
Lol, Italy has a vastly superior healthcare system to the US. Any system, market-based or government-run is subject to being overwhelmed during a pandemic. This is as retarded as the arguments you see people making about "wait times" to claim the US healthcare system isn't trash tier while ignoring the fact we ration care by ability to afford.
The UK? Better healthcare outcomes than America. The US has by far the worst-performing healthcare system in the entire western world.
We have like 200 times more hospital beds per 100k people than Italy. The entire U.K. has 8 icu beds. The number of beds means more staff more nurses. Means a market based system can withstand more influx for a pandemic.
Also way to ignore the fact that all the vaccines being made and the drugs being used are from a market based healthcare system.
This is just like everything the USA has the war machine that keeps Europe safe, the innovation America creates the more hours worked the life saving drugs and technological breakthroughs are all just utilized by the socialist communist governments of Europe and China and they just pretend they invented it or in Europe’s case like oh we don’t need to spend on NATO or create medicine. We have the yankee slaves to do that for us while we call them national socialists. You need to visit Europe once you’ll stop being on theyre side real quick
Means a market based system can withstand more influx for a pandemic.
Given pretty much everything you just said above was outright false, in what universe do you think you have even a basic comprehension of healthcare systems and their ability to withstand pandemics?
Also way to ignore the fact that all the vaccines being made and the drugs being used are from a market based healthcare system.
As far as I know, the only country close to a corona vaccine is Israel, not a market based system.
I stopped reading here. Your general economic illiteracy and disdain for basic facts leads me to believe you're a troll or profoundly ignorant moron. Both of which mean I'm not going to waste my time attempting to educate you.
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1 HodorTheDoorHolder_ 2020-03-14
lol and Trump is cool with Brit 🇬🇧 Bugs 🦠 traveling here
1 BosnianLilB 2020-03-14
1) make healthcare shitty purpose on bad to loot it and destroy it
2) use state of the healthcare system after you made it bad on purpose as proof that it is inherently bad
3) crooked tooth poor gammons who depend on government run health care see the state of the healthcare system, and vote for the people that will make it so they get nothing instead
4) snorts a line of fentanyl off of a Rupert Murdoch commemorative Manchester United plate
1 collectijism 2020-03-14
Government works
Pick one
1 BosnianLilB 2020-03-14
I will admit that despite medicare ranking higher in patient satisfaction than private insurers and costing less, it would be better if it adopted the Comcast method of business.
1 collectijism 2020-03-14
https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/ICU%20US.png?itok=TMRjeRUH
1 BosnianLilB 2020-03-14
ah yes, that old chestnut, pick an incredibly specific statistic and pretend it represents every facet of healthcare, a multi trillion dollar industry. behold the superior conservative facts and logic. where is the free market capitalist pandemic team after the government one was cut to give tax cuts to billionaires? where is the free market response to that genius?
do u like NASCAR? do u like dale earnhardt? do u like dale earnhardt junior?
1 collectijism 2020-03-14
Do you like government healthcare saying we can’t do anything and letting people over 65 to die without treatment because they are past there prime tax paying years? And have no hope of breeding more slaves for the jews?
1 BosnianLilB 2020-03-14
S you're saying a conservative government who wants to get rid of healthcare wanting to kill the elderly, is proof that government healthcare is inherently bad. Because someone is intentionally sabotaging it. I can't imagine how smart you think you sound right now. Are u mentally retarded? a gay? or both?
1 collectijism 2020-03-14
Have you ever coped harder than this in your life?
1 BosnianLilB 2020-03-14
Why would I cope, my teeth aren't crooked and I'm not a pale anglo lmao
1 collectijism 2020-03-14
Are you using the word conservative to explain the UK government. That’s like calling a black person an ape
1 BosnianLilB 2020-03-14
As opposed to all the principled conservatives that exist in a book or people theorize exist?
1 collectijism 2020-03-14
The U.K. having a conservative movement is like USA having a monarchist movement
1 BosnianLilB 2020-03-14
The US replaced "divine mandate just because" with "money means god gave it to you and you have a money divine mandate" so there is almost no difference.
1 ThouShaltHearLight 2020-03-14
I'd be more likely to vote for bigger government if I lived in a country with fewer niggers.
1 BosnianLilB 2020-03-14
haha yeah white people would make great decisions if they were all on their own like a midwestern farmer inviting corporations to permanently contaminate his land and give him cancer amirite kangz
1 ThouShaltHearLight 2020-03-14
Access to white people is not a human right.
1 BosnianLilB 2020-03-14
kek
1 professorshillphd 2020-03-14
Conservatives the world around are like this. Thomas Frank said it best:
1 collectijism 2020-03-14
We are here to replace you with 3rd world indentured servants
1 professorshillphd 2020-03-14
There's a reason all right-wing extremists base their movement on appeals to the "common man" and rural conservatives especially.
1 collectijism 2020-03-14
What? Are you saying the sickle in the communist symbol means more than the hammer? How dare you deny the holodomor
1 professorshillphd 2020-03-14
Extremist movements in general do. But you should look into "blood and soil" nationalism in the context of Weimar Germany.
1 collectijism 2020-03-14
So your saying the holodomor was real and was justified because of human evolution?
1 professorshillphd 2020-03-14
I'm not playing your retarded game, jism. You aren't a good troll, nor are you even entertaining.
1 collectijism 2020-03-14
You have no logic to justify your position. You have no pathos or ethos to justify your biased opinions. You started the playing to the extremes I just played along. If you want to make a salient point about the benefits of government anything including healthcare over free market anything including healthcare. Go for it none of this rural people are stupid shit. Make a real salient point and I will refute it or admit your right
1 professorshillphd 2020-03-14
Healthcare does not work as a standard market commodity. There are numerous market failures present in healthcare.
Supplier induced demand being a big one.
1 collectijism 2020-03-14
Are those failures more prevalent in government run healthcare systems?
Seems like pandemic if you want a vaccine or a bed is working a lot better in market based healthcare than government run healthcare.
Notice the drugs being used are created in a market based healthcare system. And the people running the hospitals are subject to criteria ie profitability to at least be somewhat competent at their job. Whereas government based healthcare like in Italy they leave people over 65 to die. And in U.K. they don’t even try.
1 professorshillphd 2020-03-14
They aren't.
In no universe is this the case.
Lol, Italy has a vastly superior healthcare system to the US. Any system, market-based or government-run is subject to being overwhelmed during a pandemic. This is as retarded as the arguments you see people making about "wait times" to claim the US healthcare system isn't trash tier while ignoring the fact we ration care by ability to afford.
The UK? Better healthcare outcomes than America. The US has by far the worst-performing healthcare system in the entire western world.
1 collectijism 2020-03-14
We have like 200 times more hospital beds per 100k people than Italy. The entire U.K. has 8 icu beds. The number of beds means more staff more nurses. Means a market based system can withstand more influx for a pandemic.
Also way to ignore the fact that all the vaccines being made and the drugs being used are from a market based healthcare system.
This is just like everything the USA has the war machine that keeps Europe safe, the innovation America creates the more hours worked the life saving drugs and technological breakthroughs are all just utilized by the socialist communist governments of Europe and China and they just pretend they invented it or in Europe’s case like oh we don’t need to spend on NATO or create medicine. We have the yankee slaves to do that for us while we call them national socialists. You need to visit Europe once you’ll stop being on theyre side real quick
1 professorshillphd 2020-03-14
No, we do not.
https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/SH.MED.BEDS.ZS
Italy for example has 3.4 per 1000. We have 2.9.
1
This is false.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2020/03/12/the-countries-with-the-most-critical-care-beds-per-capita-infographic/#1a8fdd327f86
The US does have the most ICU beds per 100k, but the entire UK doe snot have "8 ICU beds."
A) The US has less total hospital beds per 1k than other countries.
B) The US does not actually have more nurses/staff than other countries.
https://www.who.int/gho/health_workforce/nursing_midwifery_density/en/
Given pretty much everything you just said above was outright false, in what universe do you think you have even a basic comprehension of healthcare systems and their ability to withstand pandemics?
As far as I know, the only country close to a corona vaccine is Israel, not a market based system.
I stopped reading here. Your general economic illiteracy and disdain for basic facts leads me to believe you're a troll or profoundly ignorant moron. Both of which mean I'm not going to waste my time attempting to educate you.
1 professorshillphd 2020-03-14
Actually, the Israel thing wasn't completely accurate.
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-and-us-wrestle-over-coronavirus-vaccine-report/a-52777990
Trump is currently begging a European company like a little bitch for the vaccine.
1 ThouShaltHearLight 2020-03-14
Agreed, and despite being functionally retarded, they still understand the importance of family and social norms better than a 135iq coastal bugman.
1 professorshillphd 2020-03-14
Yeah, that's probably why they've been at the center of every family destroying extremist movement in recent history.
1 ThouShaltHearLight 2020-03-14
It's good as long as you are destroying the right families.
1 MySQ_uirre_L 2020-03-14
the kulaks burnt their own crops in protest, whether you like it or not.
1 snowkarl 2020-03-14
could you repeat this in a coherent and understandable format
1 BosnianLilB 2020-03-14
it's not my job to teach white people literacy
1 collectijism 2020-03-14
https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/ICU%20US.png?itok=TMRjeRUH
1 Soylent_Official 2020-03-14
yeah funny
https://i.imgur.com/YEYqQX1.png