The thing is, even if you believe this shit, you should still be on the side arguing against guns - and yet the alt-right is fiercely pro-guns. Whatever the reason you pinpoint for your society having such a large bunch of violent idiots (mental illness, race, religion, genetics, you name it, it doesn't matter) is not relevant to this argument. The point is, given that you (supposedly) have such a violent population in your society, should you really be giving them easy access to guns?
(Plus let's be real, even if you're gonna blame black people, that would not be nearly enough to reduce your homicides to European levels, unless you can convince me black people commit >85% of the homicides in the states. Clearly the widespread availability of guns is the reason for that).
Also don't tag me into your shitty fringe sub again lmao
Also don't tag me into your shitty fringe sub again lmao
I was with you until here. If you don’t like the friendly, cultured, tasteful subreddit we created, you can just LEAVE instead of saying hurtful things 😭😭
Three dudes barge into your home with guns, you gotta grab your own gun to try and challenge them.
How retarded are you? You think if nobody had guns, they wouldn't have invaded her house? What about the existence of guns makes them more likely to invade her house? You think she would have fared better if neither her nor the criminals had guns?
Explain why it doesn't happen in Europe nearly as often then.
Yes, giving you a weapon with which you can threaten to murder someone at range in seconds emboldens people to commit crime, who would have FUCKING guessed!
Nothing to believe it's a fact, mayo crime is at the same level as western Europe. We also have taco Americans who are also way over represented in crime. don't worry though keep importing the future doctors and lawyers and you can truly experience the cultural enrichment we in America get.
since you have a violent population you shouldnt give them easy access to guns
But there is no easy access to guns. Background checks, mental health checks, some places ask for people that know you to testify in court for your good character... its already well regulated, excessively so actually.
it wouldnt be enough to bring the crime down to european levels to just blame blacks
But if you take hispanics into the equation, it actually does hit european levels:
FBI says that whites (a category that includes hispanic "whites") committed 4849 murders in 2010. There were 197M non hispanic whites in the us in 2010. The hispanic murder rate is over double that of whites. (https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5309973)
If we dont even halve it and use a favorable number like 3000 murders by non hispanic whites, underrepredenting hispanic crime, we get (3000/197M) * 100,000 = 1.52. If we actually halve it we get a rate of 1.23.
European countries range from 0.5 to 2.4 if you exclude outliers like ukraine, russia, lithuania, gibraltar, etc. So yeah, white crime in the usa is within european levels.
The worst part is when you see the effects in large cities:
"Given a population that was 32.8 percent white, 22.6 percent black, 28.9 percent Hispanic, and 13.0 percent Asian, a black was 31 times more likely than a white to be arrested for murder, a Hispanic was 12.4 times more likely than a white, and an Asian was twice as likely. A “shooting” is discharge of a firearm in which a bullet strikes a person. If New York City had been all white in 2014 — and the additional whites committed crimes at the same rates as the city’s actual white residents — there would have been 32 murder arrests instead of 374, 1,844 robbery arrests instead of 10,163, and 16 arrests for shootings rather than 503. These figures would reflect reductions in these crimes of no less than 91, 81, and 97 percent, respectively.
The racial mix of Chicago’s population in 2010, as reported on page 25 of the police department report (whites — 31.7 percent, blacks — 32.4 percent, Hispanics — 28.9 percent, Asians — 5.4 percent) meant that a Chicago black was 24 times more likely than a Chicago white to be arrested for murder, and a Hispanic was 6.7 times more likely. If the same calculation is done as with New York City to arrive at crime rates in a theoretical all-white Chicago, murder would decline by 90.2 percent, rape by 80.8 percent, and robbery by 90.2 percent.
California is one of the few states that treat whites, blacks, and Hispanics separately, so there can be no confusion about how many Hispanics are being counted as whites. In 2013, California blacks were 5.35 times more likely than whites to be arrested for violent crimes, and 4.24 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes. The corresponding figures for Hispanics were 1.42 and 1.14. "Others,” who are mostly Asians, appear to be a model group. Violent-crime arrest rates are less than half those for whites, and property crime arrest rates are 60 percent lower.
Edit: for a direct comparison to european cities,
2010, there were 31 murders in Brussels, 118 murders in Kiev, 9 in Belfast, 483 in Moscow, 30 in Glasgow, 22 in Tallinn, and 11 in Zurich. Most of these cities though have a fraction of the population of larger cities like NYC or Chicago who have millions of residents rather than half or a quarter million.
A large percentage of american black or white are dumb violent animals, thats why people need guns here. You're starting to see the same problem over there with "refugees" basically beating and robbing people in mobs with no recourse. American isn't a snowy nordic socialist resort it's a shithole so we need protection here
I like how Europoors used to go on and on about how violent Americans are not realizing that it was actually Basketball-Americans mostly at fault.
Now I'll just name a city in their county with a lot of migrants and say something like "look at Malmo, Sweden really has a violent crime problem" and they'll go absolutely ballistic.
Malmo has a lower murder rate than our entire country taken as a whole. And comparisons with our violent cities are downright laughable. Blame basketballs if you want, but burgers are dumb fucks as a people, white or black.
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5 boyoyoyoyong 2020-04-16
u/Capcuck it's simple those countries don't have basketball Americans
6 Capcuck 2020-04-16
The thing is, even if you believe this shit, you should still be on the side arguing against guns - and yet the alt-right is fiercely pro-guns. Whatever the reason you pinpoint for your society having such a large bunch of violent idiots (mental illness, race, religion, genetics, you name it, it doesn't matter) is not relevant to this argument. The point is, given that you (supposedly) have such a violent population in your society, should you really be giving them easy access to guns?
(Plus let's be real, even if you're gonna blame black people, that would not be nearly enough to reduce your homicides to European levels, unless you can convince me black people commit >85% of the homicides in the states. Clearly the widespread availability of guns is the reason for that).
Also don't tag me into your shitty fringe sub again lmao
9 soy_farmer 2020-04-16
I was with you until here. If you don’t like the friendly, cultured, tasteful subreddit we created, you can just LEAVE instead of saying hurtful things 😭😭
8 Capcuck 2020-04-16
oh fuck I'm sorry I really appreciate the work you put into it king, keep it up
9 SpezKilledSwartz2 2020-04-16
Stay safe babe 😘
9 FrequentOriginal 2020-04-16
How retarded are you? You think if nobody had guns, they wouldn't have invaded her house? What about the existence of guns makes them more likely to invade her house? You think she would have fared better if neither her nor the criminals had guns?
2 Capcuck 2020-04-16
Explain why it doesn't happen in Europe nearly as often then.
Yes, giving you a weapon with which you can threaten to murder someone at range in seconds emboldens people to commit crime, who would have FUCKING guessed!
10 constantinople_2053 2020-04-16
To quote the top comment that pinged you here,
"Those countries dont have basketball-americans"
7 FroppyHoppyMyFloppy 2020-04-16
Niggers commit ~50% of murders and spics commit most of the remainder. American whites have a homocide rate that fits right in with much of Europe.
3 agrees2retards 2020-04-16
God damn I hate britbongs. Islam can't purge them fast enough.
2 boyoyoyoyong 2020-04-16
Don't talk to me or my wife's son ever again
Nothing to believe it's a fact, mayo crime is at the same level as western Europe. We also have taco Americans who are also way over represented in crime. don't worry though keep importing the future doctors and lawyers and you can truly experience the cultural enrichment we in America get.
3 LetsGetSQ_uirre_Ly 2020-04-16
lol
5 FroppyHoppyMyFloppy 2020-04-16
It actually is tho. American mayos are feminized homos so why would you expect high aggressiveness?
0 boyoyoyoyong 2020-04-16
https://imgur.com/a/5JmpmJc
4 LetsGetSQ_uirre_Ly 2020-04-16
"here is a graph that does not mention what you’ve quoted whatsoever, checkmate libtard"
2 wohSdooGAstI 2020-04-16
Criminals don't exactly care about laws telling them not to buy guns lmao
2 Capcuck 2020-04-16
Where are those guns in Europe? Seriously, where are the violent gunpoint robberies, break-ins, gang wars, hostage situations, mass shootings, etc?
Really makes you think. No, really, REALLY makes you think.
8 strumyabird 2020-04-16
I think after having two continental wars Europe is far more aware of how senseless and pointless killing is.
But still convert to Islam. Allah is great 🙌🙌
4 agrees2retards 2020-04-16
Shootings are for the US.
Muslim gang rapes and murders are for Europe 😎
Don't stand close to an arriving train 😂😂😂
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1 le_ebin_trolecel 2020-04-16
Funny way to say you didnt look at the data
But there is no easy access to guns. Background checks, mental health checks, some places ask for people that know you to testify in court for your good character... its already well regulated, excessively so actually.
But if you take hispanics into the equation, it actually does hit european levels:
FBI says that whites (a category that includes hispanic "whites") committed 4849 murders in 2010. There were 197M non hispanic whites in the us in 2010. The hispanic murder rate is over double that of whites. (https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5309973)
If we dont even halve it and use a favorable number like 3000 murders by non hispanic whites, underrepredenting hispanic crime, we get (3000/197M) * 100,000 = 1.52. If we actually halve it we get a rate of 1.23.
European countries range from 0.5 to 2.4 if you exclude outliers like ukraine, russia, lithuania, gibraltar, etc. So yeah, white crime in the usa is within european levels.
The worst part is when you see the effects in large cities:
"Given a population that was 32.8 percent white, 22.6 percent black, 28.9 percent Hispanic, and 13.0 percent Asian, a black was 31 times more likely than a white to be arrested for murder, a Hispanic was 12.4 times more likely than a white, and an Asian was twice as likely. A “shooting” is discharge of a firearm in which a bullet strikes a person. If New York City had been all white in 2014 — and the additional whites committed crimes at the same rates as the city’s actual white residents — there would have been 32 murder arrests instead of 374, 1,844 robbery arrests instead of 10,163, and 16 arrests for shootings rather than 503. These figures would reflect reductions in these crimes of no less than 91, 81, and 97 percent, respectively.
The racial mix of Chicago’s population in 2010, as reported on page 25 of the police department report (whites — 31.7 percent, blacks — 32.4 percent, Hispanics — 28.9 percent, Asians — 5.4 percent) meant that a Chicago black was 24 times more likely than a Chicago white to be arrested for murder, and a Hispanic was 6.7 times more likely. If the same calculation is done as with New York City to arrive at crime rates in a theoretical all-white Chicago, murder would decline by 90.2 percent, rape by 80.8 percent, and robbery by 90.2 percent.
California is one of the few states that treat whites, blacks, and Hispanics separately, so there can be no confusion about how many Hispanics are being counted as whites. In 2013, California blacks were 5.35 times more likely than whites to be arrested for violent crimes, and 4.24 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes. The corresponding figures for Hispanics were 1.42 and 1.14. "Others,” who are mostly Asians, appear to be a model group. Violent-crime arrest rates are less than half those for whites, and property crime arrest rates are 60 percent lower.
Edit: for a direct comparison to european cities, 2010, there were 31 murders in Brussels, 118 murders in Kiev, 9 in Belfast, 483 in Moscow, 30 in Glasgow, 22 in Tallinn, and 11 in Zurich. Most of these cities though have a fraction of the population of larger cities like NYC or Chicago who have millions of residents rather than half or a quarter million.
1 sh1tpo5ta 2020-04-16
didn't read lol
1 le_ebin_trolecel 2020-04-16
But ur post > 5
1 sh1tpo5ta 2020-04-16
imagine thinking I read what I wrote
1 le_ebin_trolecel 2020-04-16
Teach me the ways of stream of consciousness shitposting
1 sh1tpo5ta 2020-04-16
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1 le_ebin_trolecel 2020-04-16
Absolutely ebin thanks my god nigger
1 sh1tpo5ta 2020-04-16
I'm illiterate therefore I didn't read your verbal vomit
btw here's your welcoming present
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1 1262663748488484 2020-04-16
A large percentage of american black or white are dumb violent animals, thats why people need guns here. You're starting to see the same problem over there with "refugees" basically beating and robbing people in mobs with no recourse. American isn't a snowy nordic socialist resort it's a shithole so we need protection here
1 BecauseWeHaveNukes88 2020-04-16
I like how Europoors used to go on and on about how violent Americans are not realizing that it was actually Basketball-Americans mostly at fault. Now I'll just name a city in their county with a lot of migrants and say something like "look at Malmo, Sweden really has a violent crime problem" and they'll go absolutely ballistic.
1 furryjihad 2020-04-16
Cope
1 kermit_was_wrong 2020-04-16
Malmo has a lower murder rate than our entire country taken as a whole. And comparisons with our violent cities are downright laughable. Blame basketballs if you want, but burgers are dumb fucks as a people, white or black.
3 strumyabird 2020-04-16
Lmao love some mayo on mayo arguing. Come on mayos have another Eurowar ft burgers.
2 sh1tpo5ta 2020-04-16
and of course some AHS troid has to send the CP hit squad on the post
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1 UnrelentingCaptain 2020-04-16
Lmao europoors chimpin about racism just mention gypsies to them and all of a sudden racism is acceptable to them lmao
1 le_ebin_trolecel 2020-04-16
Americans on racism: europoors you just dont get it you dont have nigger neighbors!
Europoors on racism: burgers you just dont get it you dont have gypsies in your cities!
1 mayocideisamyth 2020-04-16
Cheeseburgerland best land mashallah