It's possible to both accept transgender people's gender identity and know that they are biologially still the sex they were born as, so in medical cases their biologial sex matters but in social settings their gender identity. The difference between gender and sex is really simple yet conservatives don't seem to get it.
No you didn't you used a theory that will most likely be disproven like most psychological theories are 30 years after they are widely used and accepted. There is a long history of stuff being touted as fact then disproven in that community.
Even if it will be disproven in the future (I doubt it) , this is what the scientic community currently accepts, so it's still better, then speculation about what theory they will prove and disprove in the future.
It's currently not dispoven you just wish it was, because you want to be right. But think about what if it isn't disproven, and you were wrong? Could you accept that?
Oh I'm all for being proven wrong and will freely admit when I am but history and my counseling degree and experience with that as a career tells me this will be looked at worse than the use of electroshock therapy and lobotomies in about 5 years . Since it's already being reported widely how misdiagnosed it is and the flippant way they casually allow transition. See in the past you had to live as the sex you identified as for a minimum of 5 years before they even considered allowing you to transition. Now it's literally think your trans in july and have tits by December. See why people are so against it?
Yeah it's misdiagnosed frequently, and they shouldn't casually allow everyone to transition, but it is happening because of it becoming a political hot topic. And in politics "your side is always right and the other side is always wrong" mentality rules so they just don't get that both sides are partially right, both sides just want to win, and don't care about the victims of the stupid cultural war they fight.
Do you think most conservatives actually care about the victims of the abuse? They just think trannies are gross, and want to bully some vulnerable, and trannies are an easy target.
Wow how very closed minded and stereotyping of you. You're smarter than to think all conservatives are like that aren't you? You literally used a stereotype to attack someone using a stereotype.
I get it. They hide their hatred and bigotry behind irony so they can just say it's just joke bro, whenever questioned. But they need to realize it does have a negative impact on the world, despite it being just satire.
You mean the government only offers grants to research they deem important. Like nazi campers experimenting on twins it’s currently acceptable that the patients commit suicide half the time after we sew them together.
Your a leftist you have no understanding of history or ability to think independently. You have been told to be what you are like a child grown up Mormon you don’t know any better.
Lol, we lobotomized people for twenty years from 1944 to 1966 because it was what the scientific community accepted at the time. I assume you would no doubt agree that lobotomizing people is unethical and wrong. Even when the theory was first posited, people wrote: "The history of prefrontal lobotomy has been brief and stormy. Its course has been dotted with both violent opposition and with slavish, unquestioning acceptance." Which is eerily similar to transgenderism reassignment surgeries and hormonal aids.
Stop deifying science like it's a the new god. Theories are prone to error and reassessment. Sometimes the current line of thinking needs more rigorous examination to prove validity.
See, the difference between you and me is I don't want young men and women to destroy their endocrine systems and mutilate their genitals on a stupid hunch predicated on the same logic as lobotomies. Buck Angel's fucking uterus fused with their internal organs and it nearly killed the fucker after it went septic. Wonder why no one caught on? Because doctors have no idea the risks involved with injecting people with opposite sex hormones. We're playing Frankenstein with the mentally ill, instead of treating them by helping them come to grips with reality via genuine psychiatric help.
You though? You'll still push it forward even though you could be wrong just because scientists said so with incomplete data. You'll let people ruin their bodies, their minds, and their lives on a possibility rather than taking less drastic methods to actually aid them that at worse will at least leave them physically healthy. Imagine thinking that scientific consensus immediately means valid.
You mean the very denial of dr moneys work which is the foundation for all modern trans bullshit? Dr money tried to raise a newborn trans, didnt work. His social conditioning did not ever take in someone who had his dick chopped off at birth, when they told him the truth he said his life finally made sense. Dr money touted his experiment as a success, both twins denounced this result calling it a complete failure. One of them asked if it was going to take someone long themselves to get people to listen and thats exactly what he did, he killed himself.
The literal foundation of all trans theory is built on pretending a failure was a success.
I know about dr money, and he tried to make a child live as trans which child did not have gender dysphoria. And it obviously didn't work because people need gender dysphoria to be trans.
Gender is a societal construct though, not a biological one. So if you cannot be societally raised to be one gender, then you must refer to biology for gender in which case gender = sex and trannies are mentally ill. Theres literally no out.
has there ever been a more baseless "scientific" theory then the one created by famed pedophile and child murderer John (((money))). We might as well go back to treating illness via the 4 humours
Fuck yeah science! I love learning about heckin science on reddit! Did you know some people personally feel like they're women but got trapped in bodies with big hairy dicks? You have to pretend their biological sex doesn't matter so they don't kill themselves. That's science!
If they accepted that their sex mattered, I'd take them seriously. But they don't, most insist on lying to doctors and calling them nazis for pointing out their sex.
Oh yes that's exactly what I said. Totally wasn't talking about 1 specific thing . No wonder millions of people like me are leaving the left to become centrists.
I don't see anyone shilling for Republicans in here.
Republicans are wrong about plenty. They happen to be a little less wrong on this particular issue. I'm not willing to give them credit because they aren't far behind themselves.
Because it's interfering in the survival of the fittest.
Why do you want the weak minded people who succumb to a fad of sterilizing their children to be prevented from ending their bloodlines so that their descendants are still around and vote on issues that affect us all?
By the way I feel the same incomprehension at liberals pushing suicides as a reason for destroying the 2a. Shouldn't they strive to make it as easy as possible for Trump voters to blow their brains out instead of voting? Smdh idiots.
Because it’s only happening to mayo kids which makes it absolutely hilarious and based.
Plus, them being mayos means he was going either overdose of fentanyl or shoot himself with daddies gun eventually anyways so who really cares if he makes a “life destroying” decision.
Something that only applies to FtM people and isn't intuitive based on MtF people talking about their "periods" -- taking testosterone essentially shuts down your ovaries and puts you into premature menopause.
Once you get the hysterectomy(which comes long after T and long before the scarier knife), you start to actually go through menopause regardless of age.
This old broad actually just sent her kid into menopause before her own, and before puberty even ended. Presumably as some kinda test to see what her own will be like.
Women who look like the mother should be prosecuted, they are always attention whores who will do anything to get on the title page of the local magazine.
It simply means that their ovules and feminine reproductive system are dying during the process of changing genders, probably because of artificial male hormones. Now whether or not it's a good thing is up to debate, but it's really not that hard to grasp.
if my son or daughter or whatever told me that they're transgender, I'd have a talk with them, and then take their phone and look through it. Then, I don't know what I would do.
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1 Tyrone-Davis 2020-04-18
So heccin valid!
1 goldfish_memories 2020-04-18
Slayyy queen!!!
1 AcceSpeed 2020-04-18
YAAAAAS 😍😍😍
1 MassCopeSession 2020-04-18
Let her dick bleed bigots 🤬
1 wizdumb337 2020-04-18
Remember the republicucks are the science deniers though.
1 finitewaves 2020-04-18
i mean yeah
1 372x4 2020-04-18
No
1 Girkoplesa 2020-04-18
They are. They don't even believe crakkkas to be inferior to us black kangs
1 FloatyFish 2020-04-18
Hey now, I haven't jerked off to a white girl for all of 2020, so I'm doing my part.
2 KangofHoteps 2020-04-18
Stay strong kang
1 wizdumb337 2020-04-18
Eww gussy
1 MazelTovarish 2020-04-18
Yeah, hang on there man!
1 QuadNarca 2020-04-18
It's possible to both accept transgender people's gender identity and know that they are biologially still the sex they were born as, so in medical cases their biologial sex matters but in social settings their gender identity. The difference between gender and sex is really simple yet conservatives don't seem to get it.
1 wizdumb337 2020-04-18
Dude it's grooming lmao
1 QuadNarca 2020-04-18
I know 15 is too young to do it but I adressed the science denying part.
1 wizdumb337 2020-04-18
No you didn't you used a theory that will most likely be disproven like most psychological theories are 30 years after they are widely used and accepted. There is a long history of stuff being touted as fact then disproven in that community.
1 QuadNarca 2020-04-18
Even if it will be disproven in the future (I doubt it) , this is what the scientic community currently accepts, so it's still better, then speculation about what theory they will prove and disprove in the future.
1 wizdumb337 2020-04-18
Oh it'll be disproven
1 QuadNarca 2020-04-18
It's currently not dispoven you just wish it was, because you want to be right. But think about what if it isn't disproven, and you were wrong? Could you accept that?
1 wizdumb337 2020-04-18
Oh I'm all for being proven wrong and will freely admit when I am but history and my counseling degree and experience with that as a career tells me this will be looked at worse than the use of electroshock therapy and lobotomies in about 5 years . Since it's already being reported widely how misdiagnosed it is and the flippant way they casually allow transition. See in the past you had to live as the sex you identified as for a minimum of 5 years before they even considered allowing you to transition. Now it's literally think your trans in july and have tits by December. See why people are so against it?
1 QuadNarca 2020-04-18
Yeah it's misdiagnosed frequently, and they shouldn't casually allow everyone to transition, but it is happening because of it becoming a political hot topic. And in politics "your side is always right and the other side is always wrong" mentality rules so they just don't get that both sides are partially right, both sides just want to win, and don't care about the victims of the stupid cultural war they fight.
1 wizdumb337 2020-04-18
It's politicized because it's irresponsible and literal abuse and 1 side refuses to see that.
1 QuadNarca 2020-04-18
Do you think most conservatives actually care about the victims of the abuse? They just think trannies are gross, and want to bully some vulnerable, and trannies are an easy target.
1 wizdumb337 2020-04-18
Wow how very closed minded and stereotyping of you. You're smarter than to think all conservatives are like that aren't you? You literally used a stereotype to attack someone using a stereotype.
1 QuadNarca 2020-04-18
Not all conservatives are like that but the comments about wanting to increase the 41% to 100% I see around here are what I'm talking about.
1 wizdumb337 2020-04-18
Dude do you not get the sardonical and satirist nature of this sub?
1 QuadNarca 2020-04-18
I get it. They hide their hatred and bigotry behind irony so they can just say it's just joke bro, whenever questioned. But they need to realize it does have a negative impact on the world, despite it being just satire.
1 -ColonelMortimer- 2020-04-18
Lmao
1 -ColonelMortimer- 2020-04-18
Well trannies are gross but still, people should get actual therapy instead of genital mutilation.
1 collectijism 2020-04-18
You mean the government only offers grants to research they deem important. Like nazi campers experimenting on twins it’s currently acceptable that the patients commit suicide half the time after we sew them together.
1 QuadNarca 2020-04-18
Donald Trump governs the US now, he is the president, so why doesn't he do anything about it?
1 collectijism 2020-04-18
Your a leftist you have no understanding of history or ability to think independently. You have been told to be what you are like a child grown up Mormon you don’t know any better.
1 bittercripple6969 2020-04-18
Bureaucratic inertia.
1 kinglyransom 2020-04-18
Lol, we lobotomized people for twenty years from 1944 to 1966 because it was what the scientific community accepted at the time. I assume you would no doubt agree that lobotomizing people is unethical and wrong. Even when the theory was first posited, people wrote: "The history of prefrontal lobotomy has been brief and stormy. Its course has been dotted with both violent opposition and with slavish, unquestioning acceptance." Which is eerily similar to transgenderism reassignment surgeries and hormonal aids.
Stop deifying science like it's a the new god. Theories are prone to error and reassessment. Sometimes the current line of thinking needs more rigorous examination to prove validity.
1 QuadNarca 2020-04-18
Yes I could live with it if it turns out I was wrong, and I would probably feel remorse. I'm just a human too, I might be mistaken.
1 kinglyransom 2020-04-18
See, the difference between you and me is I don't want young men and women to destroy their endocrine systems and mutilate their genitals on a stupid hunch predicated on the same logic as lobotomies. Buck Angel's fucking uterus fused with their internal organs and it nearly killed the fucker after it went septic. Wonder why no one caught on? Because doctors have no idea the risks involved with injecting people with opposite sex hormones. We're playing Frankenstein with the mentally ill, instead of treating them by helping them come to grips with reality via genuine psychiatric help.
You though? You'll still push it forward even though you could be wrong just because scientists said so with incomplete data. You'll let people ruin their bodies, their minds, and their lives on a possibility rather than taking less drastic methods to actually aid them that at worse will at least leave them physically healthy. Imagine thinking that scientific consensus immediately means valid.
1 le_ebin_trolecel 2020-04-18
You mean the very denial of dr moneys work which is the foundation for all modern trans bullshit? Dr money tried to raise a newborn trans, didnt work. His social conditioning did not ever take in someone who had his dick chopped off at birth, when they told him the truth he said his life finally made sense. Dr money touted his experiment as a success, both twins denounced this result calling it a complete failure. One of them asked if it was going to take someone long themselves to get people to listen and thats exactly what he did, he killed himself.
The literal foundation of all trans theory is built on pretending a failure was a success.
1 QuadNarca 2020-04-18
I know about dr money, and he tried to make a child live as trans which child did not have gender dysphoria. And it obviously didn't work because people need gender dysphoria to be trans.
1 le_ebin_trolecel 2020-04-18
Gender is a societal construct though, not a biological one. So if you cannot be societally raised to be one gender, then you must refer to biology for gender in which case gender = sex and trannies are mentally ill. Theres literally no out.
1 boyoyoyoyong 2020-04-18
has there ever been a more baseless "scientific" theory then the one created by famed pedophile and child murderer John (((money))). We might as well go back to treating illness via the 4 humours
1 Jannieseatdoodoo 2020-04-18
Based trannyposter keeps baiting rerards with his retard schtick
1 ason 2020-04-18
Fuck yeah science! I love learning about heckin science on reddit! Did you know some people personally feel like they're women but got trapped in bodies with big hairy dicks? You have to pretend their biological sex doesn't matter so they don't kill themselves. That's science!
1 QuadNarca 2020-04-18
I mean if I have to pretend it doesn't matter if I want to save someones life I would do it.
1 IsraeliDancers 2020-04-18
You really want them using up valuable space, air and resources?
1 QuadNarca 2020-04-18
Unironically yes, it's called empathy.
1 gonight 2020-04-18
So pretend time more is important than space travel?
1 AllisonGator 2020-04-18
If they accepted that their sex mattered, I'd take them seriously. But they don't, most insist on lying to doctors and calling them nazis for pointing out their sex.
1 QuadNarca 2020-04-18
Many tranny subs are cults that groom vulnarable people into it.
1 Gravnor 2020-04-18
all*
1 QuadNarca 2020-04-18
r/truscum is a good sub.
1 372x4 2020-04-18
No.
1 lenisnore 2020-04-18
Sounds gay 🤷🏼♂️
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1 nanonan 2020-04-18
Conservatives get it. Sex is based on facts, gender is based on faggotry.
1 -ColonelMortimer- 2020-04-18
Mate look at that boy and tell me he looks like a girl.
1 JO82818493 2020-04-18
Well sometimes both do bad things so obviously my party is right
1 wizdumb337 2020-04-18
How is the side saying stop with the casual allowing of a mixed up and confused kid to make a life destroying decision wrong?
1 JO82818493 2020-04-18
You’re right they’re never wrong about anything. God bless America. #KAGA.
1 wizdumb337 2020-04-18
Oh yes that's exactly what I said. Totally wasn't talking about 1 specific thing . No wonder millions of people like me are leaving the left to become centrists.
1 JO82818493 2020-04-18
🥶🥶🥶
1 theyearsstartcomin 2020-04-18
Gross
1 LegitimateMail0 2020-04-18
Which sub did you think this was
1 theyearsstartcomin 2020-04-18
I thought it was radical centrism not normie centrism
1 ConfrontationalKosm 2020-04-18
There’s cool centrism and gay centrism though
1 Akhaian 2020-04-18
I don't see anyone shilling for Republicans in here.
Republicans are wrong about plenty. They happen to be a little less wrong on this particular issue. I'm not willing to give them credit because they aren't far behind themselves.
1 JO82818493 2020-04-18
Yes
1 zergling_Lester 2020-04-18
Because it's interfering in the survival of the fittest.
Why do you want the weak minded people who succumb to a fad of sterilizing their children to be prevented from ending their bloodlines so that their descendants are still around and vote on issues that affect us all?
1 ProEvilOperations 2020-04-18
Probably bc they are scared their bloodline is too weak and any kids they might have will probably transition 🤭
1 zergling_Lester 2020-04-18
By the way I feel the same incomprehension at liberals pushing suicides as a reason for destroying the 2a. Shouldn't they strive to make it as easy as possible for Trump voters to blow their brains out instead of voting? Smdh idiots.
1 PandaPie10 2020-04-18
They aren’t. But there still way more retarded for not believing in climate change an evolution.
A large amount of right wingers think those aren’t real and are conspiracies, which fucks us all over.
Only a small percentage of mentally ill mayo foids are ruining their children with this gender shit.
No one cares about a couple of kids that we’re gonna be mentally fucked up anyways.
1 brodudebrodude123 2020-04-18
Because it’s only happening to mayo kids which makes it absolutely hilarious and based.
Plus, them being mayos means he was going either overdose of fentanyl or shoot himself with daddies gun eventually anyways so who really cares if he makes a “life destroying” decision.
1 anoughnymoughs 2020-04-18
It's supposedly more common among Basketball and Taco Americans.
1 MazelTovarish 2020-04-18
Both are - adapt radcen or out, last chance now I swear.
1 alakavat 2020-04-18
I'm just wondering how Americans went from hating homos to literally letting children get pumped with hormone altering drugs in like 10 years.
1 wizdumb337 2020-04-18
El slippery sloperino
1 GreatHelmsman 2020-04-18
god i cant wait for humanity to be extinct. t-minus 2 years i reckon
1 boyoyoyoyong 2020-04-18
Foids are the bringers of the end times.
1 wizdumb337 2020-04-18
Dude biblical lmao
1 Comrade_Natalie 2020-04-18
And that's a good thing! 💁♀️💅
1 Fulgrim_Deciever 2020-04-18
NOOOOO YOU CANT HAVE MENOPAUSE YOU ARE NOT A WOMAN!!! NOOOOOOOO!
1 AllisonGator 2020-04-18
They're masculine hotflashes you heccin nazi
1 Fulgrim_Deciever 2020-04-18
How can I be a nazi if I support Asaad and his Syrian regime. Checkmate bigot.
1 Comrade_Natalie 2020-04-18
https://i.imgur.com/LA4QMwz.jpg
*ahem*
1 Fulgrim_Deciever 2020-04-18
Based
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1 Jannieseatdoodoo 2020-04-18
Women can have penises and men cango through menopause
Get with the times bigot, you're on the wrong side of science and history 👏👏
1 Fulgrim_Deciever 2020-04-18
If I'm a bigot. Why do I support Hamas? Checkmate you racist.
1 -Kite-Man- 2020-04-18
Something that only applies to FtM people and isn't intuitive based on MtF people talking about their "periods" -- taking testosterone essentially shuts down your ovaries and puts you into premature menopause.
Once you get the hysterectomy(which comes long after T and long before the scarier knife), you start to actually go through menopause regardless of age.
This old broad actually just sent her kid into menopause before her own, and before puberty even ended. Presumably as some kinda test to see what her own will be like.
1 whiteypoints 2020-04-18
This is why Hitler shot himself.
1 Akhaian 2020-04-18
That was after he burned the books on this stuff.
1 whiteypoints 2020-04-18
He realized it wasn't enough.
1 General_Shitty 2020-04-18
Grooming your own child to own the bigots
1 SnideBumbling 2020-04-18
What if we take a normal child and fill their brain with SHIT and PISS and CUM?
What could go wrong?
1 General_Shitty 2020-04-18
the baby fucking dies
1 Comrade_Natalie 2020-04-18
What seems to be the problem there?
1 wizdumb337 2020-04-18
Fill their ass with that and you get Desmond is amazing.
1 372x4 2020-04-18
They will turn into a dramacel
1 dewhat202020 2020-04-18
it's an undercover foid with short hair I'll still bang her and put a hijab on her inshallah
1 CervusDesiderat 2020-04-18
I had to look at the pic twice to figure out which one is the child.
1 Degenerate_Yuppie 2020-04-18
God bless this brave warrior
1 embrace- 2020-04-18
God dam that soyface.
1 soda_crackhead 2020-04-18
Wonder where the father is
1 username_suggestion4 2020-04-18
Its kind of amazing much how the past few years of gender shit have taught me about the Y-Chromosome.
1 Comrade_Natalie 2020-04-18
That is the father there. He's a mom now.
1 Chapose 2020-04-18
Women who look like the mother should be prosecuted, they are always attention whores who will do anything to get on the title page of the local magazine.
1 wizdumb337 2020-04-18
The liberal lookitme Karens is way way way worse than the conservative treat wage cucks like shit Karen's
1 Krystalana 2020-04-18
So bloody bleak... yet the fact still stands:
FtM troons is certainly a sounder way out of doomer for ugly woman than MtF is for coomer men. XD
1 Smomsbreedcrime 2020-04-18
Future school shooter
1 Ohsbar 2020-04-18
Nah. The only shooting that will happen is heroin up the bum to join the the 41%.
1 Grimy__range 2020-04-18
The POWER of the single mom
1 CameronSins 2020-04-18
this is how school shootings begin
1 Pretzelini 2020-04-18
It simply means that their ovules and feminine reproductive system are dying during the process of changing genders, probably because of artificial male hormones. Now whether or not it's a good thing is up to debate, but it's really not that hard to grasp.
1 BiggestThiccBoi 2020-04-18
50% and rising
1 UnalignedRando 2020-04-18
It's like 41% wasn't enough for them, they're doing their best to get their numbers up.
1 Frog_Refugee_2019 2020-04-18
The 19th amendment and its consequences.
1 gonight 2020-04-18
have been a disaster for the human race.
1 372x4 2020-04-18
Can I get a physiognomy check on the mother?
1 iu88 2020-04-18
if my son or daughter or whatever told me that they're transgender, I'd have a talk with them, and then take their phone and look through it. Then, I don't know what I would do.
1 Ohsbar 2020-04-18
You've already failed by then. Get them into hyper masculine or feminine shit early on to reinforce their gender and never get confused about it.
1 iu88 2020-04-18
I will, but I am still afraid they could have the mental illness or be indoctrinated under my nose somehow.
1 brenb1120 2020-04-18
FYI, menopause is what women go through when their menstrual cycle stops, and use happens in their 50s
1 RareSector0 2020-04-18
Reddit moment
1 J_boi075 2020-04-18
I thought this was the onion for a second
1 derpysorus 2020-04-18
Pyrocynical
1 Jannieseatdoodoo 2020-04-18
YAASS QUEEN 👏👏
Child abuse is hecking cute and valid 💅👑
1 CasanovaNova 2020-04-18
That’s enough internet for one day shuts lid
1 solanesenomad 2020-04-18
Remember lads; 42 is the answer to life, the universe, and everything.
1 DownvoterAccount 2020-04-18
Future /r/detrans poster