to be fair, you have to have a very unique and special kind of brain to be in a position where you could get any job in the world and decide to pick the one job that requires you sacrifice your dignity, family, and all chances of ever forming a successful romantic relationship
LTV is already a brainlet take. Marxists will hand wave away anyways criticism by saying it only applies to "productive/necessary" work, but completely ignore how the "productive/necessary" categorization is decided. Or if they do acknowledge that, they completely underestimate the enormity and impossibility of the task of deciding the categorization and valuation of labor for an economy of hundreds of millions of people. For it to be done correctly and efficiently, you'd need an incredibly powerful AI far beyond current capabilities.
I completely agree with you, although I do think you conflate the confounding transformation problem of the LTV with the confounding economic calculation problem of Marxism-Leninism, which are two separate but both massive problems.
Although I wouldn’t be so dismal about the potential power of even current AI & algorithms being able to adequately determine prices and production. Amazon is halfway to building its own little state-capitalism.
Did you know that when they bought Whole Foods, they removed each Whole Foods franchise’s capacity to determine for themselves what they should stock at what amounts at what price for their area and demographic? Instead, Daddy Bezos gave orders from Seattle on what every Whole Foods should stock up on, at exactly what amount and exactly what price. He even eliminated all of their inventories - they would only buy what he predicted they’d sell quickly enough, and put that on the shelves.
Milton (((Friedman))) would say this is preposterous - obviously the market solution of letting each franchise determine what they needed to buy and how much would be more efficient than a single bureaucrat using math to predict demand and allocate resources, no? After all, then the inefficient Whole Foodses would fail and the efficient ones would succeed, right? Well, wrong. Comrade Bezos is proving that the economic calculation problem is indeed solvable by machines. We’re rapidly barreling towards the Helios ending of Deus Ex as I see it.
I always saw the LTV and Marxist-Leninist economic calculation issue as two sides of the same coin. They're intrinsically linked by theory, aren't they? I admittedly haven't read much marxist literature beyond the basics because there's always something more interesting to read.
The information about Bezos and Whole Foods is really interesting. I'll have to read more into it because that's both promising from a tech perspective and terrifying from a social control one. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
Dude, why do we need landlords, lmao. Just use one of the million houses that are already there. like, lol, the cities are all full of houses. I mean I would totally have 10 houses if it wouldn't be for those damn landlords leeching money of me.
Communists explaining economics is like an 8yo child explaining how an airplane works. Sure, sometimes you know what he means, what he is trying to say now, sometimes it is just plain wrong or a fantasy. And he can go on for hours talking about this topic.
And if you mean well and point out just one flaw in their explanation, they somehow assume you are the idiot because you do not get it and explain it again.
"I know, this is because of the fire. It shoots the plane upwards." ...no, kiddo. This is exactly how it does not work. And btw, you are not explaining me anything.
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11 theworstofus14 2020-04-27
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11 yetanotherbaldcunt 2020-04-27
8 mrmarfanman 2020-04-27
to be fair, you have to have a very unique and special kind of brain to be in a position where you could get any job in the world and decide to pick the one job that requires you sacrifice your dignity, family, and all chances of ever forming a successful romantic relationship
4 CumBlaster8000 2020-04-27
I can't believe this wasn't the Rick and Morty pasta
4 WearerOfAsshats 2020-04-27
Tbf that's basically all they're good for 🙄
2 _reason_biden_lost_ 2020-04-27
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2 wizdumb337 2020-04-27
This is the dude who wrote that.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexandraErin
These are the people who call you a nazi
8 Tardigrade_Sex_Party 2020-04-27
To be fair, just using the wrong pronouns or being late with the tendies, can cause a Chapo to join the 41 percent.
3 UnalignedRando 2020-04-27
Doesn't work on the first try though. Gotta keep doing it a while usually. But it's honest work.
7 ManOfBored 2020-04-27
Just jerk off bitch
7 Roope_Rankka2 2020-04-27
”Sex work”. Whores. Just call them whores
8 thoroughlythrown 2020-04-27
You heckin' disrespected sex work 😡
5 le_ebin_trolecel 2020-04-27
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2 wizdumb337 2020-04-27
Their pimps call them bitches
6 agrees2retards 2020-04-27
My landlord waited a year for me to get back on my feet to pay him rent.
Would a whore do the same? 😤
7 tallcelvolcel 2020-04-27
How were you paying it while on your knees? 🤤
3 agrees2retards 2020-04-27
I'm not a white woman
3 ro0te 2020-04-27
it sure is a good thing hookers aren't people
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1 mrmarfanman 2020-04-27
i dont like sex work either but this is such a brainlet interpretation of marxism / LTV / capital
5 MikeHuntIsAnAsshole2 2020-04-27
Still, a good troll
2 15nelsoc 2020-04-27
LTV is already a brainlet take. Marxists will hand wave away anyways criticism by saying it only applies to "productive/necessary" work, but completely ignore how the "productive/necessary" categorization is decided. Or if they do acknowledge that, they completely underestimate the enormity and impossibility of the task of deciding the categorization and valuation of labor for an economy of hundreds of millions of people. For it to be done correctly and efficiently, you'd need an incredibly powerful AI far beyond current capabilities.
3 mrmarfanman 2020-04-27
I completely agree with you, although I do think you conflate the confounding transformation problem of the LTV with the confounding economic calculation problem of Marxism-Leninism, which are two separate but both massive problems.
Although I wouldn’t be so dismal about the potential power of even current AI & algorithms being able to adequately determine prices and production. Amazon is halfway to building its own little state-capitalism.
Did you know that when they bought Whole Foods, they removed each Whole Foods franchise’s capacity to determine for themselves what they should stock at what amounts at what price for their area and demographic? Instead, Daddy Bezos gave orders from Seattle on what every Whole Foods should stock up on, at exactly what amount and exactly what price. He even eliminated all of their inventories - they would only buy what he predicted they’d sell quickly enough, and put that on the shelves.
Milton (((Friedman))) would say this is preposterous - obviously the market solution of letting each franchise determine what they needed to buy and how much would be more efficient than a single bureaucrat using math to predict demand and allocate resources, no? After all, then the inefficient Whole Foodses would fail and the efficient ones would succeed, right? Well, wrong. Comrade Bezos is proving that the economic calculation problem is indeed solvable by machines. We’re rapidly barreling towards the Helios ending of Deus Ex as I see it.
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2 15nelsoc 2020-04-27
I always saw the LTV and Marxist-Leninist economic calculation issue as two sides of the same coin. They're intrinsically linked by theory, aren't they? I admittedly haven't read much marxist literature beyond the basics because there's always something more interesting to read.
The information about Bezos and Whole Foods is really interesting. I'll have to read more into it because that's both promising from a tech perspective and terrifying from a social control one. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
1 mrmarfanman 2020-04-27
https://medium.com/s/story/the-singular-pursuit-of-comrade-bezos-3e280baa045c
1 jannieseatmyass 2020-04-27
How is taking a timeshare out on some women's holes not landlordism?
1 mrmarfanman 2020-04-27
by this definition, all work is landlordism because your boss is taking a timeshare out on whatever youre doing
1 jannieseatmyass 2020-04-27
Owning a gussy = capital
1 Supremely_Obese 2020-04-27
How much theory would I have to read to understand why these people are retarded?
1 TimGuoRen 2020-04-27
Dude, why do we need landlords, lmao. Just use one of the million houses that are already there. like, lol, the cities are all full of houses. I mean I would totally have 10 houses if it wouldn't be for those damn landlords leeching money of me.
1 TimGuoRen 2020-04-27
Communists explaining economics is like an 8yo child explaining how an airplane works. Sure, sometimes you know what he means, what he is trying to say now, sometimes it is just plain wrong or a fantasy. And he can go on for hours talking about this topic.
And if you mean well and point out just one flaw in their explanation, they somehow assume you are the idiot because you do not get it and explain it again.
"I know, this is because of the fire. It shoots the plane upwards." ...no, kiddo. This is exactly how it does not work. And btw, you are not explaining me anything.
1 jannieseatmyass 2020-04-27
Why even live?