Imagine being an 18 year old, dying fighting against actual fascism and then getting lumped up with antifa twitter fags jfc. They probably wouldn't even bother if they knew
Yeah, the kinds that actually go to protests to pick a fight are a pretty hard-to-find type. Both IRL and in the Internet.
It's just like trying to find a racist on /pol/ that's actually planning to fight in a racewar instead of just being in it for the edgy goosestepping. You might as well be looking for them all day.
Even then, the number of people doing this kind of shit in Berkley is minuscule compared to the absolute amount of people who have been saying they would do it if a riot ever broke out. Same way with how people who shoot up schools and mosques are an absolutely tiny portion of the alt-right.
And jury's also still out on how many of the arsonists are actually linked to antifa, too. I wouldn't be surprised if on one of these incidents, some of the guys - in an unexpected fit of self-awareness - ask "wait... how is burning these buildings down supposed to help the revolution?" and the others just turn around and are all like: "revolution?"
And that's exactly why it's important to remember they're not the majority.
Whever a riot or mass shooting happens, both the right and the left - not even just the antifa and the alt-right - will try to convince everyone these attacks were definetly, 100% politically motivated, and not just the result of some lone wolves.
They'll do this even when it should by all accounts be counterproductive to them, like with how the major parts or the left never once tried to denounce the rioters as people who are taking advantage of the BLM cause for their short term gain, instead always trying to ignore the riots, defend them, or blame them on "white supremacist instigators".
Why? Because both want to politicize tragedies so they can get control over the outrage, and leverage it to get more influence. For them, admitting the apolitical nature of these incidents is actually worse than quietly accepting responsibility for them, because then at least they'll continue to live rent-free free in everyone's brains, even if not in a positive way.
Pointing out that the majority of the people involved in this shit care just as much about the political side of it as the people who just want to grill (and then somehow getting that message out to as many people as possible), though, stops that shit right in its tracks.
None of them were fighting to end fascism or anything retarded like that. Hell, FDR straight up respected fascist leaders and got policy idea from watching them.
fuck I hate this so much. The allies would have NOTHING in common with the modern day liberal. Read "The Unknown Warriors" by Nicholas Pringle (about the British). I didn't read it all yet but basically:
They did not support gays
They opposed immigration and said their country was degrading because of it (being dependents on the state and what not).
There are a lot of letters which said if they saw their country today back then, they would have been on the other side.
Had the WW2 vets known what would become of their nations, they'd either refuse to fight the Axis or join them.
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The book 'The Unknown Warriors' by Nicholas Pringle is a collection of letters from Second World War veterans with memories of wartime and thoughts on life since the end of the war and the country today.
Here are some excerpts regarding the book, taken from a news article about the same:
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What is extraordinary about the 150 replies he received, which he has now published as a book, is their vehement insistence that those who made the ultimate sacrifice in the war would now be turning in their graves.
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'I sing no song for the once-proud country that spawned me,' wrote a sailor who fought the Japanese in the Far East, 'and I wonder why I ever tried.'
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They feel, in a word that leaps out time and time again, 'betrayed'.
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Immigration tops the list of complaints.
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'Our country has been given away to foreigners while we, the generation who fought for freedom, are having to sell our homes for care and are being refused medical services because incomers come first.' Her words may be offensive to many - and rightly so - but Sarah Robinson defiantly states: 'We are affronted by the appearance of Muslim and Sikh costumes on our streets.'
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As a group, they feel furious at not being able to speak their minds. They see the lack of debate and the damning of dissenters as racists or Little Englanders as deeply upsetting affronts to freedom of speech. 'Our British culture is draining away at an ever increasing pace,' wrote an ex-Durham Light Infantryman, 'and we are almost forbidden to make any comment.'
If the Axis would've won WW2, then the Cold War would be between the US and Germany + Japan, that would mean the biggest enemy of US would not be the communists, but the fascists, this would push the US further to the left, than it is now, so it would have the opposite effect than you think.
That's incorrect. Before the declaration of war, the US got on quite well with Nazi Germany so assuming the soldiers did as they said they wished and never participated then there would have been no war. If this was the case then the US likely would have continued to get on quite well with Germany. The real cold war would have been the axis powers as well as the US against the Communists.
The axis powers did attempt to dissuade the other world leaders from war. Especially the UK and the US due to good relations with the US and mixed relations with the UK due to the origins of the royal bloodline. Obviously however, war profiteers pushed the UK and the US to declare war.
I don't know if they would even bother with that. If the Nazis won the Western front and held control of France, they could effectively move a large number of their forces and take western Russia up to Moscow and if they did this effectively and with enough supplies, I have a feeling they would declare it their own territory. There would be no advantage in pursuing every russian troop to the east but by conquering up to Moscow, they would have taken most locations of strategic importance.
While there would no longer be communists, due to a prior good relation with the US, I can't see either side turning on each other. The US knows they have a defensible position that the Nazis would never be able to take. They also have a lot that the Nazis would like from foreign trade such as oil which wasn't being extracted by the axis in the middle east as fast as the Nazis would have liked. They likely would have became trade partners because, assuming segregation never ends or anything of the sort then the US wouldn't be too ideologically opposed to a powerful Christian country in Europe.
How do you figure? First, the US would be defeated under a Democratic President. Second, the US wouldn't have the power to fight a Cold War against a victorious Germany or Japan. They wouldn't have bases all over the planet. They wouldn't experience the post-war recovery in anything like the same way. Meanwhile, Germany and Japan would be divvying up the USSR and China, building bases throughout South America and Africa, and generally just ruling the planet.
It's more likely that over time, the US would adopt a fascist or fascist-sympathizing government by now just to get along in that alternative world order.
yes, at least on the British side. I’ve only read a handful of the letters in the book, but I’ve see that sentiment repeated throughout. I definitely recommend it. I can probably edit this and try to find a specific passage tomorrow for you.
my granddad was at the battle of the bulge and the last decade of his life had nightmares and delusions every night of black people coming into his bedroom to kill him
Lmao these retatds get panic attacks when the bartista at starbucks asks them if they want extra sugar and yet compare themselves to people who bled and died against actual fucking fascism
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My great grandpa who served in WW2 hated Japanese with a fiery passion until the day he died. The men like my grandfather had a stake in the country and the direction it headed, that's why they fought. Now you get first generation immigrants like AOC who have no historical ties to the country trying to change it to suit their needs. Fucking sickens me.
Had the WW2 vets known what would become of their nations, they'd either refuse to fight the Axis or join them.
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The book 'The Unknown Warriors' by Nicholas Pringle is a collection of letters from Second World War veterans with memories of wartime and thoughts on life since the end of the war and the country today.
Here are some excerpts regarding the book, taken from a news article about the same:
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What is extraordinary about the 150 replies he received, which he has now published as a book, is their vehement insistence that those who made the ultimate sacrifice in the war would now be turning in their graves.
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'I sing no song for the once-proud country that spawned me,' wrote a sailor who fought the Japanese in the Far East, 'and I wonder why I ever tried.'
​
They feel, in a word that leaps out time and time again, 'betrayed'.
​
Immigration tops the list of complaints.
​
'Our country has been given away to foreigners while we, the generation who fought for freedom, are having to sell our homes for care and are being refused medical services because incomers come first.' Her words may be offensive to many - and rightly so - but Sarah Robinson defiantly states: 'We are affronted by the appearance of Muslim and Sikh costumes on our streets.'
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As a group, they feel furious at not being able to speak their minds. They see the lack of debate and the damning of dissenters as racists or Little Englanders as deeply upsetting affronts to freedom of speech. 'Our British culture is draining away at an ever increasing pace,' wrote an ex-Durham Light Infantryman, 'and we are almost forbidden to make any comment.'
They are essentially nothing else than KPD suckers. The same americans, brittons etc. tha landed on normandy would be happy to shoot Antifa members on sight.
Nazi Americans are retarded hypocrites. Your ancestors fought the Nazis for moral reasons because back then people loved Jews so much and wanted to defend them.
We literally fought Nazis, so you shouldn't become one. And you should become a communist because communists fought Nazis.
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58 DEGENERATE_NEET69 2020-06-07
Imagine being an 18 year old, dying fighting against actual fascism and then getting lumped up with antifa twitter fags jfc. They probably wouldn't even bother if they knew
14 ONLY_GOT_CANINES 2020-06-07
As someone who served this makes me FURIOUS!!11
I have PTSD from being a COOK in the US ARMY and this is how I'm treated?! DISGUSTING T_D BIGOT.
unironically tho fuck antifa, largest concentration of shit cunts to exist.
10 DEGENERATE_NEET69 2020-06-07
The ones I've met weren't so bad, just extremely retarded stoners
3 32624647 2020-06-07
Yeah, the kinds that actually go to protests to pick a fight are a pretty hard-to-find type. Both IRL and in the Internet.
It's just like trying to find a racist on /pol/ that's actually planning to fight in a racewar instead of just being in it for the edgy goosestepping. You might as well be looking for them all day.
0 ZackCrisan 2020-06-07
Live in Berkeley for a week. Really easy to find there.
2 32624647 2020-06-07
Even then, the number of people doing this kind of shit in Berkley is minuscule compared to the absolute amount of people who have been saying they would do it if a riot ever broke out. Same way with how people who shoot up schools and mosques are an absolutely tiny portion of the alt-right.
And jury's also still out on how many of the arsonists are actually linked to antifa, too. I wouldn't be surprised if on one of these incidents, some of the guys - in an unexpected fit of self-awareness - ask "wait... how is burning these buildings down supposed to help the revolution?" and the others just turn around and are all like: "revolution?"
1 ZackCrisan 2020-06-07
The point of Antifa isnt to be the majority. It's to foster civil unrest so normies become the minuscule we are talking about.
2 32624647 2020-06-07
And that's exactly why it's important to remember they're not the majority.
Whever a riot or mass shooting happens, both the right and the left - not even just the antifa and the alt-right - will try to convince everyone these attacks were definetly, 100% politically motivated, and not just the result of some lone wolves.
They'll do this even when it should by all accounts be counterproductive to them, like with how the major parts or the left never once tried to denounce the rioters as people who are taking advantage of the BLM cause for their short term gain, instead always trying to ignore the riots, defend them, or blame them on "white supremacist instigators".
Why? Because both want to politicize tragedies so they can get control over the outrage, and leverage it to get more influence. For them, admitting the apolitical nature of these incidents is actually worse than quietly accepting responsibility for them, because then at least they'll continue to live rent-free free in everyone's brains, even if not in a positive way.
Pointing out that the majority of the people involved in this shit care just as much about the political side of it as the people who just want to grill (and then somehow getting that message out to as many people as possible), though, stops that shit right in its tracks.
3 iTransphobe 2020-06-07
Nobody gave a fuck about the Jews. They were forcefully drafted.
1 FroppyHoppyMyFloppy 2020-06-07
None of them were fighting to end fascism or anything retarded like that. Hell, FDR straight up respected fascist leaders and got policy idea from watching them.
2 DEGENERATE_NEET69 2020-06-07
Yeah that's probably true, however the enemy was much more real than Trump's retarded "fascist" policies
1 FroppyHoppyMyFloppy 2020-06-07
Of course. Also can’t forget that leftoids call everyone who holds the exact kinds of views these boomer’s boomer held fascists too.
1 SoCalSurfer88 2020-06-07
you are wording it like actual German fascism was bad.
57 1LBFROZENGAHA 2020-06-07
fuck I hate this so much. The allies would have NOTHING in common with the modern day liberal. Read "The Unknown Warriors" by Nicholas Pringle (about the British). I didn't read it all yet but basically:
37 bonerdude420 2020-06-07
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15 Carl_Schmitt_14 2020-06-07
Check out this post, it also has other stats like 90% of Americans saying they'd rather lose to Nazis than end segregation and excerpts by George Patton, WW2 US General: https://www.reddit.com/r/The3rdPosition/comments/gg1ado/the_great_betrayal/
Had the WW2 vets known what would become of their nations, they'd either refuse to fight the Axis or join them.
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The book 'The Unknown Warriors' by Nicholas Pringle is a collection of letters from Second World War veterans with memories of wartime and thoughts on life since the end of the war and the country today.
Here are some excerpts regarding the book, taken from a news article about the same:
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4 Caladan_Mood 2020-06-07
sucks to be cucks
2 QuadNarca 2020-06-07
If the Axis would've won WW2, then the Cold War would be between the US and Germany + Japan, that would mean the biggest enemy of US would not be the communists, but the fascists, this would push the US further to the left, than it is now, so it would have the opposite effect than you think.
5 PropagandaPiece 2020-06-07
That's incorrect. Before the declaration of war, the US got on quite well with Nazi Germany so assuming the soldiers did as they said they wished and never participated then there would have been no war. If this was the case then the US likely would have continued to get on quite well with Germany. The real cold war would have been the axis powers as well as the US against the Communists.
The axis powers did attempt to dissuade the other world leaders from war. Especially the UK and the US due to good relations with the US and mixed relations with the UK due to the origins of the royal bloodline. Obviously however, war profiteers pushed the UK and the US to declare war.
3 QuadNarca 2020-06-07
There would be almost no communists, if the Nazis won, because they would replace what's left of the USSR, with a puppet goverment.
1 PropagandaPiece 2020-06-07
I don't know if they would even bother with that. If the Nazis won the Western front and held control of France, they could effectively move a large number of their forces and take western Russia up to Moscow and if they did this effectively and with enough supplies, I have a feeling they would declare it their own territory. There would be no advantage in pursuing every russian troop to the east but by conquering up to Moscow, they would have taken most locations of strategic importance.
While there would no longer be communists, due to a prior good relation with the US, I can't see either side turning on each other. The US knows they have a defensible position that the Nazis would never be able to take. They also have a lot that the Nazis would like from foreign trade such as oil which wasn't being extracted by the axis in the middle east as fast as the Nazis would have liked. They likely would have became trade partners because, assuming segregation never ends or anything of the sort then the US wouldn't be too ideologically opposed to a powerful Christian country in Europe.
-1 WhatABunchOfFascists 2020-06-07
How do you figure? First, the US would be defeated under a Democratic President. Second, the US wouldn't have the power to fight a Cold War against a victorious Germany or Japan. They wouldn't have bases all over the planet. They wouldn't experience the post-war recovery in anything like the same way. Meanwhile, Germany and Japan would be divvying up the USSR and China, building bases throughout South America and Africa, and generally just ruling the planet.
It's more likely that over time, the US would adopt a fascist or fascist-sympathizing government by now just to get along in that alternative world order.
8 WellShitMyWiener 2020-06-07
What do you mean by the 3rd? Like that the surviving veterans that are still alive today are saying that? Based of true
19 1LBFROZENGAHA 2020-06-07
yes, at least on the British side. I’ve only read a handful of the letters in the book, but I’ve see that sentiment repeated throughout. I definitely recommend it. I can probably edit this and try to find a specific passage tomorrow for you.
4 NietzscheMustacheCum 2020-06-07
Imagine being a British WW2 veteran and seeing your people become a minority in your capital. It must hurt so much. They deserve it though.
4 Caladan_Mood 2020-06-07
wow what a revelation
1 NietzscheMustacheCum 2020-06-07
Free download of the book https://b-ok.cc/book/5487086/34649b
25 Israelover69 2020-06-07
LMFAO the modern leftist would call the average WW2 veteran a Nazi because of how racist they were.
2 hyledog 2020-06-07
my granddad was at the battle of the bulge and the last decade of his life had nightmares and delusions every night of black people coming into his bedroom to kill him
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9 GeraltfromWitcherIII 2020-06-07
Pretty sure the soviets would have done a larger 'antifa' operation. Fucking Americans.
8 SpezKilledSwartz2 2020-06-07
Don't lump our shitskins with them faggy mayos, fix this meme immediately or I'll cap your ass, nigga.
7 DummyAccount34 2020-06-07
Ooga booga.
5 WhatABunchOfFascists 2020-06-07
These morons can't actually think the Normandy troops would hold them in anything but contempt, do they?
5 CreepyPsycho 2020-06-07
Lmao these retatds get panic attacks when the bartista at starbucks asks them if they want extra sugar and yet compare themselves to people who bled and died against actual fucking fascism 🤣🤣🤣
4 KCappo 2020-06-07
Biggest cope antifaggots are literally look like something out of the 1st watch dog
3 EnderSir 2020-06-07
I want to unsee this
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2 Melonskal 2020-06-07
This is downright offensive to the heroes who bled that day.
2 topqualitymeats 2020-06-07
My great grandpa who served in WW2 hated Japanese with a fiery passion until the day he died. The men like my grandfather had a stake in the country and the direction it headed, that's why they fought. Now you get first generation immigrants like AOC who have no historical ties to the country trying to change it to suit their needs. Fucking sickens me.
1 FroppyHoppyMyFloppy 2020-06-07
Imagine hating the people you intentionally provoked a war with. Cringe.
1 Carl_Schmitt_14 2020-06-07
Check out this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/The3rdPosition/comments/gg1ado/the_great_betrayal/
Had the WW2 vets known what would become of their nations, they'd either refuse to fight the Axis or join them.
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The book 'The Unknown Warriors' by Nicholas Pringle is a collection of letters from Second World War veterans with memories of wartime and thoughts on life since the end of the war and the country today.
Here are some excerpts regarding the book, taken from a news article about the same:
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1 DerReudenboy 2020-06-07
Based downvote
1 Elyziner3006 2020-06-07
what the fuck is this
1 dmskoy88 2020-06-07
I love how they purposely mix up antifa and anti fascist
" Antifaschistische Aktion (German: [ˌantifaˈʃɪstɪʃə ʔakˈtsi̯oːn]), commonly known under its abbreviation Antifa (German: [ˈantifaː]), was a militant anti-fascist organisation in Weimar Republic started by members of the Communist Party of Germany (KPD) that existed from 1932 to 1933 "
They are essentially nothing else than KPD suckers. The same americans, brittons etc. tha landed on normandy would be happy to shoot Antifa members on sight.
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1 Jannieseatdoodoo 2020-06-07
Yes antifa are definitely equivalent to ww2 soldiers
Ww2 soldiers definitely wouldn't personally execute antifags if they saw them today
1 frenchbreadcrumb 2020-06-07
Thank god we don’t speak German
-1 AgreeableKoala0 2020-06-07
Nazi Americans are retarded hypocrites. Your ancestors fought the Nazis for moral reasons because back then people loved Jews so much and wanted to defend them.
We literally fought Nazis, so you shouldn't become one. And you should become a communist because communists fought Nazis.
4 UCantUnibantheUnidan 2020-06-07
Hey man I can't tell if you're joking or being serious
2 AgreeableKoala0 2020-06-07
Is your autism so severe that you need me to add an /s in the end?
2 FroppyHoppyMyFloppy 2020-06-07
Everyone who downvoted this should unironically kill themselves.
1 languidhorse 2020-06-07
I can understand Nazi Americans but how do nazi Poles exist? Is there anything more cucked than that
-15 Angela-wangels 2020-06-07
repost retard.
18 throwawaywtf37777 2020-06-07
ok nd?
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repost retard.
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nd? ks ftt
12 throwawaywtf37777 2020-06-07
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