Drama in /r/GamerGhazi over whether saying "fuck all whites/men/cishets" is acceptable

113  2016-01-10 by AntonioOfVenice

The drama starts when long-time contributor CrowgirlC reports a Twitter follower sending her a message, in which it is claimed that a lot of "social justice dialogue" revolves around hating the "least oppressed person in the room". Although she does not voice her own opinion, it becomes clear that she sympathizes with this sentiment.

Racecarlock remarks on the unfairness that relatives can write 35-page essays on Stormfront with nothing but slurs, while advocates of social justice cannot respond by venting with "kill all men jokes". Wightjilt responds by saying: "This is not a dismissal of your explanation because you are right on all counts. Seeing this stuff as a person who is trying to be an ally hurts."

Another user argues that it doesn't matter what feminists say, because misogynists will attack them no matter what.

Friendlyskeletongirl believes that "'White/straight/cis people suck' is something that marginalised groups say to vent, and it's not for non-members to judge.". In a later post, she argues that such comments are not hate speech or bigotry, because they "lack the power".

A separate conversation ensues over whether or not rich, educated whites can be oppressed. Friendlyskeletongirl believes that there are a "plethora" of ways in which this can still be the case.

Another user defends attacks on "privileged" groups by citing Martin Luther King. "It's not your fault that you're in a privileged group - what matters is what you do about it. Can I see why you're uncomfortable? Absolutely. But most change never comes without pain."

Racecarlock wonders what race, gender and sexual orientation has been guilty of all sorts of misconduct. "Which race, gender, and sexual orientation constantly refers to itself as naturally superior even when evidence points in the opposite direction?" In this thread, PostModernismSaveUs argues that white is not a skin color, but a "descriptor handed to the authority in a power hierarchy".

Some other juicy bits:
* OP is called out for using the word "neuroatypical". The proper word is neurodiverse.
* The top comment suggests that the focus should be the "systemic oppression engines that is the global economy & capitalist laws".

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