I don't know; ISIS has been hard at work mass murdering Kurds. Sure, the white race may be beyond redemption after all of the atrocities it's been responsible for, but I think ISIS still wins out if you consider genocides per capita.
Not necessarily. They have Kurdish members and issues of their Rumiyah magazine had a Kurmanji translation. In fact, the IS assault commander during the siege of Kobane is a a Kurd named Abu Khattab al-Kurdi.
It's more like IS attack non-Sunnis indiscriminately. Yazidis (which were often seen as a Kurdish subgroup practicing an eclectic non-Sunni Islamic religion) were particularly targeted for extermination after IS attacked Sinjar.
Turks have caught the European disease and aren't breeding anymore, Kurds are already a quarter of Turkey's population and are expected to be the majority in a generation or two, at which point Turkey will be renamed Kurdistan.
I dunno, Turks have got the European disease and aren't breeding anymore, Kurds are already a quarter of Turkey's population and are expected to be the majority in a generation or two, at which point Turkey is renamed Kurdistan.
Well tbf, mayoshits ain't the only perpetrators of mass genocide. We were just unique in that one of our democratic nations had citizens willingly participating in it in the 30s and 40s.
I mean, let's be honest, the only "terrorist" attacks in the US have been people who were "inspired" by ISIS.
The group proper has actually gotten bumfuck nowhere in terms of actually making an attack themselves on US soil, all they have left is to claim credit for every nut going on a rampage that they can plausibly claim responsibility for.
So realistically, the number of attacks in the US where there has been actual ISIS involvement, what is it, like maybe one?
Obviously ISIS is doing terrible things in Iraq and Syria, but most of their strength is a emotional one, since their actual manpower and territory is getting fucking demolished right now.
So basically the actual threat to people living in North America is pretty close to zero.
According to their own idealogy, all a fighter on foreign soil needs to do is pledge allegiance to isil before he commits his attack and he's a member. Yes, outside of their rapidly shrinking territory that's all they can do, but if they themselves define these "lone wolves" (or nut jobs as you put it) as isil then that's what they are.
I could claim to be a soldier of Satan and shoot up a school (pls admins, hypothetical here, not planning on it ok?) but that wouldn't mean that Satan attacked the school.
If there was an organized "army of Satan" or whatever terrorist group, then it would be the same thing. "A member of AoS attacked an American public school today, radicalized by an online message board. Witnesses report the shooter yelled 'mayocide now, hail Satan, I'm an utter aspie' before opening fire while simultaneously defecating on himself"
But when people talk about "fighting ISIS', the methods they propose are all about fighting ISIS proper out in Syria and Iraq. Only simpletons propose things like "shutting down their internet", or other such unworkable plans to systematically target their online radicalizing presence.
Yeah that's fair, but in the context of the linked discussion, does some nut whose sole connection to ISIS is Twitter or something going and shooting up a school coint as ISIS committing an attack?
In my opinion it doesn't, it's a single disturbed individual who's been influenced by ISIS.
Obviously it's a semantic argument, but even with the more inclusive definition where anyone who claims to be one, is a member of ISIS, they're still not actually a significant threat to Americans.
Lol I also never said they're a huge threat to Americans.
Whether a lone wolf is a "member" or just some nut job influenced by them isnt always clear; some are so committed that I'm ready to call them "members", some are just loony shooters dropping a name.
the methods they propose are all about fighting ISIS proper out in Syria and Iraq
A billion percent false. The CoS of the AF's cultural advisor is running around the country giving lectures about exactly that and he's not the only one (just the most prolific).
Hey, I never said there aren't token efforts, but there's nothing with an actual meaningful impact.
Sure the cultural advisor might be going around talking about those, but Goldfein himself isn't. Not because the military/AF is dumb, but because they realize that combatting radical ideology online is a losing battle, you have to eliminate their credibility by hitting them on the ground.
The group proper has actually gotten bumfuck nowhere in terms of actually making an attack themselves on US soil, all they have left is to claim credit for every nut going on a rampage that they can plausibly claim responsibility for.
That is actually a core part of their tactics, making "terrorism" (not in its Syrian/Iraqi/Libyan battlefields) a grassroots effort that doesn't need actual directed guidance from actual IS members.
Sources:
Audio/Translation of Former IS spokesperson, Abu Muhammad al-Adnani's speech in "Indeed Your Lord Is Ever Watchful":
Edit: changed 'most' to 'some' as I admit 'most' was a little too inclusive and sounded racist which was not what I intended
There I said it
/u/bigj76 unless you think it's some bold statement to say that some people are racist you did mean to say most. No shit didn't mean for it to sound racist because you don't think you can be racist.
Also the government putting fluoride in our water to make us more docile and receptive to The Broadcast. Which, is connected to the scandal of our age, Pizzagate, as you mentioned.
Some Middle Eastern countries still have black slaves to this day. Calling black people racial slurs in the Middle East is a hell of a lot more socially acceptable than it is in the West.
Maybe no terrorist/Muslim has ever called you a nigger because...you've never been to the Middle East? Just a thought.
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n/a clintonbro 2017-01-08
I don't think Isis has ever committed genocide
Isis:1
White People:0
n/a lilsecretnobodynos 2017-01-08
But have they fucked Mila Kunis?
Looks like it's a tie.
n/a clintonbro 2017-01-08
I never fucked Mila Kunis :(
Me:0
Isis:1
n/a dongas420 2017-01-08
I don't know; ISIS has been hard at work mass murdering Kurds. Sure, the white race may be beyond redemption after all of the atrocities it's been responsible for, but I think ISIS still wins out if you consider genocides per capita.
Call it a tie?
n/a mindblues 2017-01-08
Not necessarily. They have Kurdish members and issues of their Rumiyah magazine had a Kurmanji translation. In fact, the IS assault commander during the siege of Kobane is a a Kurd named Abu Khattab al-Kurdi.
It's more like IS attack non-Sunnis indiscriminately. Yazidis (which were often seen as a Kurdish subgroup practicing an eclectic non-Sunni Islamic religion) were particularly targeted for extermination after IS attacked Sinjar.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-01-08
kurds have been genocided so much in history it barely counts, anyway
n/a Im-a-gay 2017-01-08
Kurds are turds. The only Middle Eastern people to be more hated than the Jews and for good reason. Fuck them.
n/a throwaway11272016 2017-01-08
Username checks out
n/a Dial_A_Dragon 2017-01-08
Turks have caught the European disease and aren't breeding anymore, Kurds are already a quarter of Turkey's population and are expected to be the majority in a generation or two, at which point Turkey will be renamed Kurdistan.
Revenge for Manzikert.
n/a Dial_A_Dragon 2017-01-08
Kurds are outbreeding Turks. In a few gen rations they'll just rename Turkey to Kurdistan.
n/a Dial_A_Dragon 2017-01-08
I dunno, Turks have got the European disease and aren't breeding anymore, Kurds are already a quarter of Turkey's population and are expected to be the majority in a generation or two, at which point Turkey is renamed Kurdistan.
Revenge for Manzikert.
n/a Elick320 2017-01-08
Now there's a statistic I can get behind.
n/a mindblues 2017-01-08
What are Yazidis?
http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/HRBodies/HRCouncil/CoISyria/A_HRC_32_CRP.2_en.pdf
n/a clintonbro 2017-01-08
idk
n/a DoctorFahrenheit 2017-01-08
Satan worshippers?
n/a DuckHuntHotDog 2017-01-08
Well tbf, mayoshits ain't the only perpetrators of mass genocide. We were just unique in that one of our democratic nations had citizens willingly participating in it in the 30s and 40s.
n/a Im-a-gay 2017-01-08
He believes the holocaust actually happened
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n/a Raven0520 2017-01-08
>goyslaughing.png
n/a OiBoiFloyd 2017-01-08
Well he's correct. White "people" bring degeneracy everywhere they go.
n/a selfiereflection 2017-01-08
It's the mayo and constant wet dog smell
n/a Malevolent_USB_Drive 2017-01-08
I mean, let's be honest, the only "terrorist" attacks in the US have been people who were "inspired" by ISIS.
The group proper has actually gotten bumfuck nowhere in terms of actually making an attack themselves on US soil, all they have left is to claim credit for every nut going on a rampage that they can plausibly claim responsibility for.
So realistically, the number of attacks in the US where there has been actual ISIS involvement, what is it, like maybe one?
Obviously ISIS is doing terrible things in Iraq and Syria, but most of their strength is a emotional one, since their actual manpower and territory is getting fucking demolished right now.
So basically the actual threat to people living in North America is pretty close to zero.
n/a CirqueDuFuder 2017-01-08
That was not the argument though. The argument is they aren't really that bad and white people are worse.
n/a Malevolent_USB_Drive 2017-01-08
Oh sorry, I hadn't noticed, my script that adds "White genocide now!" to the end of all my posts must've stopped working.
WHITE GENOCIDE NOW!
n/a CirqueDuFuder 2017-01-08
Thank you.
n/a riemann1413 2017-01-08
i don't have a script, actually. just an uncontrollable tic
n/a LedinToke 2017-01-08
like the tourettes guy!
n/a riemann1413 2017-01-08
but more woke
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-01-08
I mean the viet cong were raping kids and shit and Ali made the exact same argument
n/a HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-01-08
9/11. Are you retarded?
n/a Malevolent_USB_Drive 2017-01-08
Oh come on. My statement was obviously discussing modern terrorist attacks in the context of their relation to ISIS.
Not events from 15 years ago in a completely different geopolitical environment.
n/a HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-01-08
Hey you said US so I corrected the record. Don't get mad at facts jack.
n/a CirqueDuFuder 2017-01-08
Did you just call 9-11 ancient history?
n/a Malevolent_USB_Drive 2017-01-08
I mean, ancient might be pushing it, but it's absolutely falling into the rhealm of 'historical events' rather than 'modern day events'.
n/a riemann1413 2017-01-08
i feel like the rule of thumb is 20 years, and we've just hit 15. i sorta feel you
n/a FrostBittenSalsa 2017-01-08
Christ, we're getting older, lads
n/a ralpher313 2017-01-08
Next year there's gonna be kids in high school who weren't alive during 9/11.
n/a FrostBittenSalsa 2017-01-08
I know, Facebook won't shut the fuck about it
n/a The_Reason_Trump_Won 2017-01-08
Jfc
n/a Crazylittleloon 2017-01-08
I just aged fifty years.
n/a ricksansmorty 2017-01-08
most of /r/blackpeopletwitter wasn't born yet.
n/a skeetsurfing1984 2017-01-08
While we're at it, how dare you forget the Haymarket Bombing of 1886, when one of Prince_Kropotkin's ancestors attacked the good people of Chicago?
n/a bytewake 2017-01-08
Haymarket did nothing wrong
n/a Malevolent_USB_Drive 2017-01-08
Wow... How uneducated can you get huh?
n/a crefakis 2017-01-08
also, you know... ISIS and Al Qaeda are totally different groups and only became affiliated with eachother in 2004 but whatever
n/a crefakis 2017-01-08
wat
n/a The_Reason_Trump_Won 2017-01-08
According to their own idealogy, all a fighter on foreign soil needs to do is pledge allegiance to isil before he commits his attack and he's a member. Yes, outside of their rapidly shrinking territory that's all they can do, but if they themselves define these "lone wolves" (or nut jobs as you put it) as isil then that's what they are.
n/a TheReasonHillaryLost 2017-01-08
This
n/a Malevolent_USB_Drive 2017-01-08
Did you make an alt just to agree with yourself?
n/a The_Reason_Trump_Won 2017-01-08
/>ten minute old account
Get on my level hoe
n/a Malevolent_USB_Drive 2017-01-08
So?
I could claim to be a soldier of Satan and shoot up a school (pls admins, hypothetical here, not planning on it ok?) but that wouldn't mean that Satan attacked the school.
n/a The_Reason_Trump_Won 2017-01-08
If there was an organized "army of Satan" or whatever terrorist group, then it would be the same thing. "A member of AoS attacked an American public school today, radicalized by an online message board. Witnesses report the shooter yelled 'mayocide now, hail Satan, I'm an utter aspie' before opening fire while simultaneously defecating on himself"
n/a Malevolent_USB_Drive 2017-01-08
kek
But when people talk about "fighting ISIS', the methods they propose are all about fighting ISIS proper out in Syria and Iraq. Only simpletons propose things like "shutting down their internet", or other such unworkable plans to systematically target their online radicalizing presence.
n/a The_Reason_Trump_Won 2017-01-08
Yeah, I never said I had any bright ideas on countering online propaganda and recruitment/radicalization
n/a Malevolent_USB_Drive 2017-01-08
Yeah that's fair, but in the context of the linked discussion, does some nut whose sole connection to ISIS is Twitter or something going and shooting up a school coint as ISIS committing an attack?
In my opinion it doesn't, it's a single disturbed individual who's been influenced by ISIS.
Obviously it's a semantic argument, but even with the more inclusive definition where anyone who claims to be one, is a member of ISIS, they're still not actually a significant threat to Americans.
n/a The_Reason_Trump_Won 2017-01-08
Lol I also never said they're a huge threat to Americans.
Whether a lone wolf is a "member" or just some nut job influenced by them isnt always clear; some are so committed that I'm ready to call them "members", some are just loony shooters dropping a name.
n/a ImNotPayingFullPrice 2017-01-08
A billion percent false. The CoS of the AF's cultural advisor is running around the country giving lectures about exactly that and he's not the only one (just the most prolific).
n/a Malevolent_USB_Drive 2017-01-08
Hey, I never said there aren't token efforts, but there's nothing with an actual meaningful impact.
Sure the cultural advisor might be going around talking about those, but Goldfein himself isn't. Not because the military/AF is dumb, but because they realize that combatting radical ideology online is a losing battle, you have to eliminate their credibility by hitting them on the ground.
n/a Wacnews_the_White 2017-01-08
It was Satan working through you, my son.
n/a anotheraccount323 2017-01-08
There was only one set of cloven hoofprints in the sand!
n/a Wacnews_the_White 2017-01-08
Hehehe
n/a FrostBittenSalsa 2017-01-08
Oh hey, it's you. So I'm feeling better now, can I redeem that beating?
n/a Wacnews_the_White 2017-01-08
Naw the
threatoffer has expired sadly.n/a FrostBittenSalsa 2017-01-08
Oh no you don't, it's redeemable up to May 15th. Nice try, whitey
n/a Wacnews_the_White 2017-01-08
You'll have to beat it out of me!
n/a FrostBittenSalsa 2017-01-08
Sighs
Y'know, we were off to such a good start with our relationship...
n/a Wacnews_the_White 2017-01-08
Fite me irl
n/a FrostBittenSalsa 2017-01-08
Fine but I'm going to complain the entire time
n/a mindblues 2017-01-08
That is actually a core part of their tactics, making "terrorism" (not in its Syrian/Iraqi/Libyan battlefields) a grassroots effort that doesn't need actual directed guidance from actual IS members.
Sources:
Audio/Translation of Former IS spokesperson, Abu Muhammad al-Adnani's speech in "Indeed Your Lord Is Ever Watchful":
https://pietervanostaeyen.com/2015/01/26/audio-statement-by-is-spokesman-abu-muhammad-al-adnani-as-shami-say-die-in-your-rage/
Abu Talha al-Almani nasheed urging ordinary Muslims to commit attacks (NSFW)
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=323_1429066834
n/a headasplodes 2017-01-08
/u/bigj76 unless you think it's some bold statement to say that some people are racist you did mean to say most. No shit didn't mean for it to sound racist because you don't think you can be racist.
nigger
n/a ArchangelleLovesRape 2017-01-08
OH GOD TAKE IT BACK, SAYING NIGGER IS LITERALLY WORSE THAN BEHEADING PEOPLE DON'T YOU KNOW THAT BRAVE DINDUS ARE DYING IN THE STREETS
n/a headasplodes 2017-01-08
Looking at the hair of the guy who posted that tweet I doubt anyone's ever called him nigger
n/a OldBiffFromTheFuture 2017-01-08
As ever, it's important to ask Dylann Roof, the Drexel professor, and the Facebook Live kids.
n/a The_Reason_Trump_Won 2017-01-08
n/a LSU_Coonass 2017-01-08
I'm sad I dont see you outside this sub
n/a E_G_Never 2017-01-08
nowhere else supports such high-level shitposting
n/a sAlander4 2017-01-08
This is sarcasm right? Lol
n/a 80BAIT08 2017-01-08
It's probably for the best the manlet doesn't enlist. He'd just put people in danger being an idiot.
n/a Wacnews_the_White 2017-01-08
There are disappointingly few edgelords in there champing at the bit for a race war.
n/a riemann1413 2017-01-08
dw, we'll make up the difference here
n/a Wacnews_the_White 2017-01-08
Sweet!
n/a riemann1413 2017-01-08
race war!
n/a Wacnews_the_White 2017-01-08
Disgusting
n/a riemann1413 2017-01-08
race war!
n/a Wacnews_the_White 2017-01-08
race war nao!
n/a riemann1413 2017-01-08
/u/Wacnews_the_White
i got my eye on u
n/a Wacnews_the_White 2017-01-08
:)
n/a CirqueDuFuder 2017-01-08
I was waiting on this.
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-01-08
You misspelled "chimping"
n/a Wacnews_the_White 2017-01-08
:/
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-01-08
😛
n/a Cat_on_a_unicycle 2017-01-08
Its a joke on "no viet Kong called me a nigger"
n/a newcomer_ts 2017-01-08
If you're on /r/Drama and you need to be told this …
n/a GothCD420 2017-01-08
This dude's mad delusional
n/a SpookyMood 2017-01-08
How is your life going cirque
n/a CirqueDuFuder 2017-01-08
Can't complain. Every day above ground is a good one for me.
n/a SpookyMood 2017-01-08
Any ( normal ) chicks?
n/a CirqueDuFuder 2017-01-08
Staying away from the crazy.
n/a lvl99SkrubRekker 2017-01-08
/u/cooldito is the kind of person that would look at a holocaust picture and say "Uggh, why did we have to intervene!"
Lol If you are reading this, you are a fucking idiot btw.
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-01-08
Well TBF the holocaust never actually happened
n/a lvl99SkrubRekker 2017-01-08
Of course. Pure moon landing bs straight from the Cabal of The Knights Templar.
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-01-08
Unlike pizzagate which is very real
n/a lvl99SkrubRekker 2017-01-08
Also the government putting fluoride in our water to make us more docile and receptive to The Broadcast. Which, is connected to the scandal of our age, Pizzagate, as you mentioned.
n/a LSU_Coonass 2017-01-08
n/a lvl99SkrubRekker 2017-01-08
Lolk buddy
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-01-08
Yo /u/cooldito I think we'd get along! You gonna help us build this wall fam?
n/a YourGayOpinion 2017-01-08
what what in the butt
n/a LSDawson 2017-01-08
Some Middle Eastern countries still have black slaves to this day. Calling black people racial slurs in the Middle East is a hell of a lot more socially acceptable than it is in the West.
Maybe no terrorist/Muslim has ever called you a nigger because...you've never been to the Middle East? Just a thought.
n/a Nomadlads 2017-01-08
Source?
n/a LSDawson 2017-01-08
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2016/
n/a FreeDory 2017-01-08
Sure, they won't call him a nigga. But arabs don't have any qualms about calling black people abeed.
Thats the arabic word for slave. ;>
n/a FuckURedditor 2017-01-08
I'm not sure that leftists get that 'ironic' racism just gives KKK types something to point to when trying to recruit new members.
n/a ArchangelleLovesRape 2017-01-08
Today I learned that saying "nigger" is literally worse than terrorism.
Nigger, nigger, nigger.