Well hold on, how can any of us say that truly like Women when we only have access to the phenomenal women while the noumenal Women are completely beyond our understanding?
I like women. I'm just able to express that in an appropriate way because I'm not a 14 year old boy who only interacts with them through a computer monitor.
It says a lot about what the demographics of this site think of women when a badly formatted table of boobs hits the front page.
u/siegef4ce, you know you're no better than 17th century Puritans, right? Nobody coerces any women to post on the various pornographic subs. They do it because they enjoy showing themselves off to Reddit's straight male demographic.
I just don't think it belongs on r/dataisbeautiful. Collating pictures of women as data is a bit weird and creepy in my opinion. That was the issue I had.
What's wrong with having an opinion? I personally think that it's a bit sexist and demeaning to collect pictures of women like data. It get that people have preferences but I think it's really, really creepy that so many users on here upvoted a post to the top because of boobs. It's not meant to be a porn sub.
To be fair, there's not really any drama here. The OP of this thread just tried to troll a relatively small, niche sub and only got a few replies.
I dont know what to tell you. I actually have a hard time to try and figure out how can people see it as sexist. I just dont think nothing on that post implies that women are inferior than man.
If see a bunch of chicks making a table of hot naked dudes I would think: well, good for them.
Like quoting my other comment:
Dude, people are composed by both their bodies and their minds.
To say that someone is smart doesnt mean that you dont think they are beautiful.
To say that someone is hot or beautiful doesnt mean that you dont think that they are smart, or that they have other qualities.
Literally no where in that post it implies that woman are lesser than man, what are you smoking dude.
This counter counter jerk is so satisfying. I use cb and cb2 as my escape from reddit when the hive mind pisses me off. It's nice, they seem relatively mild as far as the meta sphere goes, but it still goes too far in the other direction at times. CB2 is worse with it. I love em but it can just too SRSish, like here.
They're already being collected like data. That's pretty much what the subreddits are for. Why is your issue only with the fact that someone is analyzing things that already exist.
Arguments about objectification are very weird. Even after reading the SEP and asking help from some people on askphil I am still not able to understand why would it ever be an issue ( except when we are talking about body shaming or things like that )
It just seems that people on the internet find something that they find creepy/weird, try to spin it as a sexism issue, and because of lack of a better terminology they label it as objectification.
People have attempted to rationalize shunning things they personally consider taboo as long as we've had culture. Religion used to be the preferred justification for keeping sex hush hush. Now it's the objectification of women and the patriarchy.
Saying "I just don't like it, and you shouldn't either," doesn't carry as much weight.
I think the problem with a lot of internet arguments against the objectification of women (or men for that matter) is that they fail to stipulate when objectification is a problem and when it isn't a problem. You really don't have to think too hard about these things to realize that some kind of objectification is inevitable simply to the extent that humans are sexually attracted to other humans, i.e., the object of their sexual desire is another person. And so if there is sexual desire there must be some object for that desire, and this utopia in which objectification doesn't exist is also a utopia in which sexual desire doesn't exist (or at least that desire does not exist for other humans).
And also it's not clear that objectification in itself is necessarily a problem. Gay men objectify each other all the time, but it's generally not an issue since in that culture being an object of sexual desire doesn't necessarily imply that the objectified individual isn't also a fully autonomous subject. When it comes to women in traditional patriarchal cultures, however, being an object means you're just that and no more -- whatever other respectable role the objectified woman had is revoked, and they're made impure, sluttish, etc. And so in taking issue with the objectification of women as such, wherever it exist, feminists run the risk of implicitly condoning the patriarchal view that sexualized women are some how worth less than their non-suxualized peers (and I don't mean to paint feminists with a broad brush here, obviously many are aware of this problem, but the nuance is lost in internet discussions where people seem to think exclusively in slogans, or else, as with the poster above, revert to calling anything they don't like icky and gross).
This is a genuine question because I've wondered for a while now and haven't bothered to ask before but now I'm in bed and have nothing to do. Why do regressives claim their opponents are offended when they are in fact the ones offended at everything? The whole point of your movement is that things are offensive and must be stopped. You were offended by people sexually appreciating female bodies.
I see it at university or on reddit in political debates with SU types, someone says something like "harassing this man for wanting immigration to not be unlimited is disgusting behaviour" and the response from SJWs is often something like "haha triggered." Said SJWs literally cry because someone used the wrong pronoun by accident and have paint bottles and cuddly toys set up in the "safe space" common rooms for when they get triggered. I doubt you'll give an accurate answer because you probably have no self-awareness (if you did you wouldn't think people laughing at you are offended) but why is it that you do that?
I'm not offended by everything, you're projecting some sort of SJW strawman onto me. I post what I do because reddit frustrates me. I see things like the post today and I just find it annoying, not offensive.
You were offended by people sexually appreciating female bodies
You know I wasn't. I've been pretty clear here and I'm tired of arguing because I feel like I'm just going to be called an 'SJW' and have all sorts of things projected onto me. I saw something weird and I called it out for what I thought it was (in my opinion).
In answer to your question, I ended with that because A) I was genuinely surprised that my comments got so much attention and B) couldn't really be bothered to argue with a bunch of people on here so I just thought I'd post a sarcastic comment. There's really nothing else to it.
Just take a step back and think "is it objectively wrong to illustrate data with porn images?" The answer is no; these women have revealed their bodies so that people can use the images as they please in exchange for money. It doesn't matter how it makes you feel. You're not the women that consented to an unrestricted audience masterbate over their naked bodies. It just feels wrong to you.
For that matter he doesn't even go all the way to consistency. I also think the graph is objectifying and actually wrong and all that shit, but I don't puss out and say "Porn is fine but when it's on a chart woooooaaah". It's either wrong or not.
[Whole bunch of metaphysical and and ethical work that's been going on for like, ever]
Porn doesn't help any virtues
It's reddit, I'm not typing out the whole foundation to this because 1. I'm an idiot and 2. it would take a fucking book to explain. I can't just talk about sex it's a whole thing.
If I give you a simplified explanation, you will rightly see the inevitable problems in a dumbed down explanation. In order to counter that, I will expand the explanation, until we're back to the same point where I say it would take a book and likely you acuse me of not having a reason because there's no point in doing this in a Reddit comment, especially since I don't have a degree in philosophy.
If you actually cared, read Philippa Foot's Natural Goodness and Alasdair MacIntyre's After Virtue. Then read various treatments of sexual ethics by virtue ethicists.
Moral philosophy relies on objective truths that don't exist. We should simply endeavour to not harm others or remove their agency. No philosopher has found a reason for which porn is wrong.
Well that's incredibly stupid. Moral realists (read: the vast majority of philosophers) don't generally try to bridge the is-ought gap. These are non-physical things and inherently non-measurable, like math.
It's not like math. Math is a logic tool that is used to determine empirical facts. There is evidence that it works. There is no evidence for objective morality. The ability to care about others that you evolved is not proof.
So neither math nor philosophy. Physics is irrelevant here.
perfect circle
Which does not exist in the material world, as you are well aware. You can't demonstrate the existence of pi empirically otherwise "math" would be "physics"
Here:
You'll have to clarify where anything there refers to "The ability to care about others that you evolved" and offers it as proof
Physics is mathematics being used to determine things empirically. It's actually more relevant than a maths degree.
That was for the benefit of anyone reading who doesn't isn't really into mathematical science by the way because I know you're trolling now. You made me respond a few times, well played.
I see things like the post today and I just find it annoying, not offensive.
I personally think that it's a bit sexist and demeaning to collect pictures of women like data.
Protip: when you choose language to describe something that indicates that you consider it socially unacceptable, and in particular implies the maltreatment of people you depict as innocent victims, that is being offended.
I understand what you mean by r/dataisbeautiful promoting what's essentially a pokedex of nudes being weird. The thing you have to understand though is that there's a lot of crossover between subs. I'd dare say some cb2 users vote on the porn subs.
You just gotta realize that the people upvoting random r/gonewild posts aren't discrete from the people putting r/tifu stories and r/adviceanimals memes on the front page.
Apparently you're new to drama. The whole point of this sub is to be dramatic and bitch about inconsequential things. If this was in another sub that wasn't focused on participating in flamewars you'd have a point.
Dude, you sound dumb as fuck. Where is the harm in showing off this data? Women willingly, for internet points and attention, post these pics on reddit. Whats the deal then? I mean its weird dedicated so much time for this, sure, but thats about how much I am cocncerned about this. Are these yearly pornhub statistics weird too?
I completely agree with you, we've gotten to a really fucked up place when it comes to porn and sexuality in our society. Its everywhere, in-your-face, and disgusting. I swear to God I can't turn in a TV show these days without seeing a couple of homos going at it like they just cured AIDS.
I think the "oppression" comes from not representing that users body type. Remember those guys who got unreasonably salty yesterday when women made small dick jokes? I think this is exactly the same situation.
They literally can't handle the idea of heterosexual sex or attraction without having a meltdown over political shit no one in the real world cares about.
I like women. I'm just able to express that in an appropriate way because I'm not a 14 year old boy who only interacts with them through a computer monitor.
If looking at boobs on the internet makes you a 14 year old boy then literally every straight and bi guy with an internet connection is a 14 year old.
If you want to look porn then just look at it. My issue isn't with porn. Organising pictures of women into tables on a subreddit about collecting data is objectification. It's weird. That's my issue.
You can look at porn, just no being efficient about it. You type boobs into google images and take what you get dammit!
He's right tbh. I don't particularly like women very much but I love their bodies. I don't particularly like anyone though, so take that with a grain of salt.
That heatmap does suck though, not because of the thumbnails, but more because of the color range. Using the range of light blue to dark blue is stupid because the contrast is harder to see which is why everyone else who ever made a heatmap uses a green to red color range.
they don't necessarily like women, they like women's bodies. Big difference.
To speak for /u/Dolphin_Gokkun for a second, that was literally his enitre point. He's saying "Some men appreciate women's bodies, get over it." He doesn't personally know those women. He's just exclaiming that some men and women enjoy looking at those pornographic images, hence why the post is popular and hence why those subs are popular. And you agree with him. Because you took what he said and rephrased it to seem adversarial.
With your logic either you agree that /u/Dolphin_Gokkun is right; some men enjoy looking at women and there's nothing wrong with that.
OR
It is immoral for men to be attracted to women's bodies.
Which is it? Or am I missing a line of reasoning that's apparent to you but not from your short comment?
/u/jk_211 you can't really complain at the same time that : heterosexuals are a majority, and that when you look at the numbers the most popular posts are the ones interesting this majority. It's like how numbers work. You can't change the rules of addition and such to represent minorities more in statistics, that's not how it works.
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n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-01-12
They really should rename that sub to Circlejerk2, since that's what it is.
n/a alarmmightsound 2017-01-12
Whose alt is that? He shit on them in very drama-esque fashion.
lol here's a figurative beer
n/a bytewake 2017-01-12
strong comment right there /u/Dolphin_Gokkun . I approve
n/a Ennui2778 2017-01-12
/u/socialjusticepuppy what about boipuccy?
n/a ReBurnInator 2017-01-12
Oh that's what he thinks.
n/a HauntedFurniture 2017-01-12
Ah, the age-old problem of ontological dualism. Clearly we are up against some Top Minds.
n/a xjapxn 2017-01-12
Underrated comment
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-12
/u/HauntedFurniture lost me at "ontological dualism"
2 sesquipedalian 4 me
n/a Brumaired 2017-01-12
First of all, you throwing too many big words at me, and because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take them as disrespect. Watch your mouth.
n/a StrategicSarcasm 2017-01-12
THAT SENTENCE HAD TOO MANY SYLLABLES! APOLOGISE!
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-01-12
Hey i thought Marxist materialism dictated that there is no difference between a woman and her body.
n/a Orsonius 2017-01-12
I also like boobs yes
n/a FreeRobotFrost 2017-01-12
Well hold on, how can any of us say that truly like Women when we only have access to the phenomenal women while the noumenal Women are completely beyond our understanding?
n/a Nerdlinger 2017-01-12
/u/siegef4ce got so flustered by seeing boobies that they couldn't even tell what OP actually did.
It's OK sweetie, after you see a few in real life you won't be so stupefied when you see them on the Internet.
n/a pm_me_pics_of_ur_nan 2017-01-12
u/siegef4ce, you know you're no better than 17th century Puritans, right? Nobody coerces any women to post on the various pornographic subs. They do it because they enjoy showing themselves off to Reddit's straight male demographic.
Why are you so threatened by women's sexuality?
n/a SpookyMood 2017-01-12
/u/siegef4ce argument is that he finds it icky
Literally, that is his argument
n/a siegef4ce 2017-01-12
No, it isn't. I have no issues with porn.
I just don't think it belongs on r/dataisbeautiful. Collating pictures of women as data is a bit weird and creepy in my opinion. That was the issue I had.
Sorry that I offended you all so much.
n/a SpookyMood 2017-01-12
Dude if you wanna say is weird just say it. I woudnt deny it. I would even agree with you.
My issue is with some of you people making this about sexism and objetification(?). Like it has nothing to do with sexism.
n/a siegef4ce 2017-01-12
What's wrong with having an opinion? I personally think that it's a bit sexist and demeaning to collect pictures of women like data. It get that people have preferences but I think it's really, really creepy that so many users on here upvoted a post to the top because of boobs. It's not meant to be a porn sub.
To be fair, there's not really any drama here. The OP of this thread just tried to troll a relatively small, niche sub and only got a few replies.
n/a SpookyMood 2017-01-12
I dont know what to tell you. I actually have a hard time to try and figure out how can people see it as sexist. I just dont think nothing on that post implies that women are inferior than man.
If see a bunch of chicks making a table of hot naked dudes I would think: well, good for them.
Like quoting my other comment:
n/a subpoutine 2017-01-12
👺
n/a supergauntlet 2017-01-12
what the fuck is this fucking smiley lmao
n/a subpoutine 2017-01-12
dis 'un
n/a supergauntlet 2017-01-12
fucking japan
n/a gey_ 2017-01-12
japanese pictograms to make us into beta males
n/a IsThisMeta 2017-01-12
This counter counter jerk is so satisfying. I use cb and cb2 as my escape from reddit when the hive mind pisses me off. It's nice, they seem relatively mild as far as the meta sphere goes, but it still goes too far in the other direction at times. CB2 is worse with it. I love em but it can just too SRSish, like here.
n/a javascript_sucks 2017-01-12
And if someone posts data of the average facial structure or name of people by region, is that also creepy?
n/a Kuonji 2017-01-12
No because it doesn't push peoples' puritanical buttons.
n/a Fartkin 2017-01-12
Nothing unless that opinion is a stupid virtue batsignal.
n/a Richtoffens_Ghost 2017-01-12
That's the most ironic question a CB2 poster's ever asked, I promise.
n/a silent_xfer 2017-01-12
They're already being collected like data. That's pretty much what the subreddits are for. Why is your issue only with the fact that someone is analyzing things that already exist.
n/a lifesbrink 2017-01-12
Sure, have your opinion. Just so long as you realize it's only right for you, and not others.
n/a Wraith_GraveSpell 2017-01-12
Isn't the whole point of CB2 is bitching about "wrong" opinions?
n/a throwaway11272016 2017-01-12
I wouldn't even rape you
n/a siegef4ce 2017-01-12
Nice to know what sort of community I'm dealing with. Next time have the guts to say it without a throwaway.
n/a throwaway11272016 2017-01-12
Bro I will shit in your asshole
n/a Strich-9 2017-01-12
if you want to have a legitimate discussion, you should post this in a smarter sub-reddit than this one. this place is filled with edgy morons.
n/a massenkompatibel 2017-01-12
And proud ones, too.
n/a ashent2 2017-01-12
uh drr
n/a Ylajali_2002 2017-01-12
ur mom's an edgy moron
n/a wwyzzerdd 2017-01-12
But she does have boobs.
n/a addmeontinder 2017-01-12
Don't you dare use his mom's boobs for /r/dataisbeautiful.
n/a faps_biweekly 2017-01-12
Oi mate, you forgot "virgin". We are all virgins here too
n/a TheThng 2017-01-12
confirming.
n/a DeprestedDevelopment 2017-01-12
"I sure showed him"
n/a old_grumpy_grandpa 2017-01-12
Unlike Circlebroke, which is clearly the safe haven for the
illuminatitop minds of redditn/a SpookyMood 2017-01-12
And thats how I like it my friend
n/a nicethingyoucanthave 2017-01-12
Perhaps you can suggest a sub that doesn't ban people for wrongthink
n/a Strich-9 2017-01-12
/r/the_donald
n/a pm_me_pics_of_ur_nan 2017-01-12
What do you think about Kinsey or Masters or anyone who studies human sexuality academically?
n/a SpookyMood 2017-01-12
Arguments about objectification are very weird. Even after reading the SEP and asking help from some people on askphil I am still not able to understand why would it ever be an issue ( except when we are talking about body shaming or things like that )
It just seems that people on the internet find something that they find creepy/weird, try to spin it as a sexism issue, and because of lack of a better terminology they label it as objectification.
n/a pm_me_pics_of_ur_nan 2017-01-12
People have attempted to rationalize shunning things they personally consider taboo as long as we've had culture. Religion used to be the preferred justification for keeping sex hush hush. Now it's the objectification of women and the patriarchy.
Saying "I just don't like it, and you shouldn't either," doesn't carry as much weight.
n/a Ylajali_2002 2017-01-12
I think the problem with a lot of internet arguments against the objectification of women (or men for that matter) is that they fail to stipulate when objectification is a problem and when it isn't a problem. You really don't have to think too hard about these things to realize that some kind of objectification is inevitable simply to the extent that humans are sexually attracted to other humans, i.e., the object of their sexual desire is another person. And so if there is sexual desire there must be some object for that desire, and this utopia in which objectification doesn't exist is also a utopia in which sexual desire doesn't exist (or at least that desire does not exist for other humans).
And also it's not clear that objectification in itself is necessarily a problem. Gay men objectify each other all the time, but it's generally not an issue since in that culture being an object of sexual desire doesn't necessarily imply that the objectified individual isn't also a fully autonomous subject. When it comes to women in traditional patriarchal cultures, however, being an object means you're just that and no more -- whatever other respectable role the objectified woman had is revoked, and they're made impure, sluttish, etc. And so in taking issue with the objectification of women as such, wherever it exist, feminists run the risk of implicitly condoning the patriarchal view that sexualized women are some how worth less than their non-suxualized peers (and I don't mean to paint feminists with a broad brush here, obviously many are aware of this problem, but the nuance is lost in internet discussions where people seem to think exclusively in slogans, or else, as with the poster above, revert to calling anything they don't like icky and gross).
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-01-12
Taking this opportunity to plug "Masters of Sex". Great show
n/a pm_me_pics_of_ur_nan 2017-01-12
This hasn't been upvoted enough fam.
n/a aonome 2017-01-12
People are laughing at me for being offended, they must be offended!
This is a genuine question because I've wondered for a while now and haven't bothered to ask before but now I'm in bed and have nothing to do. Why do regressives claim their opponents are offended when they are in fact the ones offended at everything? The whole point of your movement is that things are offensive and must be stopped. You were offended by people sexually appreciating female bodies.
I see it at university or on reddit in political debates with SU types, someone says something like "harassing this man for wanting immigration to not be unlimited is disgusting behaviour" and the response from SJWs is often something like "haha triggered." Said SJWs literally cry because someone used the wrong pronoun by accident and have paint bottles and cuddly toys set up in the "safe space" common rooms for when they get triggered. I doubt you'll give an accurate answer because you probably have no self-awareness (if you did you wouldn't think people laughing at you are offended) but why is it that you do that?
n/a siegef4ce 2017-01-12
I'm not offended by everything, you're projecting some sort of SJW strawman onto me. I post what I do because reddit frustrates me. I see things like the post today and I just find it annoying, not offensive.
You know I wasn't. I've been pretty clear here and I'm tired of arguing because I feel like I'm just going to be called an 'SJW' and have all sorts of things projected onto me. I saw something weird and I called it out for what I thought it was (in my opinion).
In answer to your question, I ended with that because A) I was genuinely surprised that my comments got so much attention and B) couldn't really be bothered to argue with a bunch of people on here so I just thought I'd post a sarcastic comment. There's really nothing else to it.
n/a WokeAsFuck 2017-01-12
But earlier:
"It's OK when we do it" - SJWs
n/a SamInTheLoop 2017-01-12
/u/siegef4ce can you answer these allegations? When is it okay to project strawmen and when is it dumb? Please advise.
n/a mersh547 2017-01-12
/u/siegef4ce plz respond
n/a aonome 2017-01-12
Just take a step back and think "is it objectively wrong to illustrate data with porn images?" The answer is no; these women have revealed their bodies so that people can use the images as they please in exchange for money. It doesn't matter how it makes you feel. You're not the women that consented to an unrestricted audience masterbate over their naked bodies. It just feels wrong to you.
n/a CheezitsAreMyLife 2017-01-12
For that matter he doesn't even go all the way to consistency. I also think the graph is objectifying and actually wrong and all that shit, but I don't puss out and say "Porn is fine but when it's on a chart woooooaaah". It's either wrong or not.
n/a aonome 2017-01-12
Tbqh I think you're worse fan
"It's wrong for women to do porn because someone might look at it"
Lol, its their choice. Controlling women is sexist
n/a CheezitsAreMyLife 2017-01-12
well obvs I'm going to say looking at it is wrong too. It's not a gendered thing fam
n/a aonome 2017-01-12
Why is it wrong for consenting adults to make porn?
n/a CheezitsAreMyLife 2017-01-12
[Insert a bunch of Virtue Ethics and shit I'm way to lazy to try and coherently lay out FML]
n/a aonome 2017-01-12
Basically there's no reason.
n/a CheezitsAreMyLife 2017-01-12
[Whole bunch of metaphysical and and ethical work that's been going on for like, ever]
Porn doesn't help any virtues
It's reddit, I'm not typing out the whole foundation to this because 1. I'm an idiot and 2. it would take a fucking book to explain. I can't just talk about sex it's a whole thing.
n/a aonome 2017-01-12
So basically you don't have a reason.
n/a CheezitsAreMyLife 2017-01-12
If I give you a simplified explanation, you will rightly see the inevitable problems in a dumbed down explanation. In order to counter that, I will expand the explanation, until we're back to the same point where I say it would take a book and likely you acuse me of not having a reason because there's no point in doing this in a Reddit comment, especially since I don't have a degree in philosophy.
If you actually cared, read Philippa Foot's Natural Goodness and Alasdair MacIntyre's After Virtue. Then read various treatments of sexual ethics by virtue ethicists.
reeeeee
n/a aonome 2017-01-12
Moral philosophy relies on objective truths that don't exist. We should simply endeavour to not harm others or remove their agency. No philosopher has found a reason for which porn is wrong.
n/a CheezitsAreMyLife 2017-01-12
Lol
n/a aonome 2017-01-12
Prove that your morals exist and measure them
n/a CheezitsAreMyLife 2017-01-12
lol at you saying they don't exist, and then telling me something that we should do
https://www.reddit.com/r/philosophy/comments/1h0syo/what_is_the_best_case_for_moral_realism_that_you/caq29hc/
https://www.reddit.com/r/philosophy/comments/3ace67/moorean_arguments_against_moral_error_theory/
https://www.reddit.com/r/askphilosophy/comments/3df0fs/what_are_good_arguments_for_moral_realism/ct4l0h1/
Well that's incredibly stupid. Moral realists (read: the vast majority of philosophers) don't generally try to bridge the is-ought gap. These are non-physical things and inherently non-measurable, like math.
n/a aonome 2017-01-12
That's not proof.
It's not like math. Math is a logic tool that is used to determine empirical facts. There is evidence that it works. There is no evidence for objective morality. The ability to care about others that you evolved is not proof.
n/a CheezitsAreMyLife 2017-01-12
What do you get if you add two glasses of water to one glass. Also show me a natural example of pi.
And when did I offer that as proof? Specifically.
n/a aonome 2017-01-12
As a physics grad I can tell you you're retarded and don't know what you're talking about.
Here:
n/a CheezitsAreMyLife 2017-01-12
So neither math nor philosophy. Physics is irrelevant here.
Which does not exist in the material world, as you are well aware. You can't demonstrate the existence of pi empirically otherwise "math" would be "physics"
You'll have to clarify where anything there refers to "The ability to care about others that you evolved" and offers it as proof
n/a aonome 2017-01-12
Physics is mathematics being used to determine things empirically. It's actually more relevant than a maths degree.
That was for the benefit of anyone reading who doesn't isn't really into mathematical science by the way because I know you're trolling now. You made me respond a few times, well played.
n/a CheezitsAreMyLife 2017-01-12
Yeah, exactly. And mathematics is the study of math which is entirely non-empirical
n/a JohnTheOrc 2017-01-12
Why?
n/a aonome 2017-01-12
Because that's what I want
n/a JohnTheOrc 2017-01-12
Neat
n/a zahlman 2017-01-12
Protip: when you choose language to describe something that indicates that you consider it socially unacceptable, and in particular implies the maltreatment of people you depict as innocent victims, that is being offended.
n/a pm_me_pics_of_ur_nan 2017-01-12
I understand what you mean by r/dataisbeautiful promoting what's essentially a pokedex of nudes being weird. The thing you have to understand though is that there's a lot of crossover between subs. I'd dare say some cb2 users vote on the porn subs.
You just gotta realize that the people upvoting random r/gonewild posts aren't discrete from the people putting r/tifu stories and r/adviceanimals memes on the front page.
It's all the same group of active users.
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-01-12
Then downvote and move on instead of whining to your safe space like a child
n/a Drunk_King_Robert 2017-01-12
you're doing that right now lmao
n/a Taipers_4_days 2017-01-12
Apparently you're new to drama. The whole point of this sub is to be dramatic and bitch about inconsequential things. If this was in another sub that wasn't focused on participating in flamewars you'd have a point.
n/a Drunk_King_Robert 2017-01-12
is bitching about the inconsequential hypocrisy of whinging about safe spaces while in a safe space not exactly in line with the point then?
n/a Taipers_4_days 2017-01-12
No.
n/a Drunk_King_Robert 2017-01-12
well fuck you too buddy
n/a Crackertron 2017-01-12
This is a safe space?
n/a Drunk_King_Robert 2017-01-12
A safe space for the same jerk and jokes
n/a Crackertron 2017-01-12
Guess what, your totally wrong
n/a Drunk_King_Robert 2017-01-12
no u
n/a Crackertron 2017-01-12
Oh
n/a Chicup 2017-01-12
Hey, it should make you happy when they nuked the data on racial crime stats!
Truth is not beautiful for some reason...
n/a lionbaiter 2017-01-12
Ugh your post is soooooooooooo icky and creepy. Ugh ewwwwww.
n/a SamInTheLoop 2017-01-12
So you're changing your argument from "icky" to "creepy"? Far out.
n/a aguad3coco 2017-01-12
Dude, you sound dumb as fuck. Where is the harm in showing off this data? Women willingly, for internet points and attention, post these pics on reddit. Whats the deal then? I mean its weird dedicated so much time for this, sure, but thats about how much I am cocncerned about this. Are these yearly pornhub statistics weird too?
n/a DoctorFahrenheit 2017-01-12
I completely agree with you, we've gotten to a really fucked up place when it comes to porn and sexuality in our society. Its everywhere, in-your-face, and disgusting. I swear to God I can't turn in a TV show these days without seeing a couple of homos going at it like they just cured AIDS.
n/a pi_over_3 2017-01-12
The pictures themselves are not the data, it's where they are posted to.
n/a Letterbocks 2017-01-12
The census is also a tool of the patriarchy collecting data on oppressed womyn.
n/a Taipers_4_days 2017-01-12
I think the "oppression" comes from not representing that users body type. Remember those guys who got unreasonably salty yesterday when women made small dick jokes? I think this is exactly the same situation.
n/a LemonScore 2017-01-12
So by that logic any statistics that relate to humans are weird and creepy to you?
n/a base_model_android 2017-01-12
Straight male leftoids are literally cucked by their own ideology. Sad.
n/a LSeww 2017-01-12
How come they went so progressive but became regressive?
n/a base_model_android 2017-01-12
They literally can't handle the idea of heterosexual sex or attraction without having a meltdown over political shit no one in the real world cares about.
n/a Taipers_4_days 2017-01-12
If looking at boobs on the internet makes you a 14 year old boy then literally every straight and bi guy with an internet connection is a 14 year old.
n/a SpookyMood 2017-01-12
Objectification = me fiding something icky right guys
Goddammit, everytime
n/a CirqueDuFuder 2017-01-12
Fucking pathetic people in that sub.
n/a LogicalShark 2017-01-12
Good thing /r/drama is superior
n/a CirqueDuFuder 2017-01-12
God damn right we are.
n/a StrategicSarcasm 2017-01-12
Glorious /r/drama Master Race
n/a WokeAsFuck 2017-01-12
/u/imnotbeingsarcastic9 is it possible to like both or is that just cis straight man hoobajoo?
n/a lvl99SkrubRekker 2017-01-12
/u/imnotbeingsarcastic9
Of course, because I love when a hot girl walks up to talk to me and in a deep southern drawl says "Muh name is Frank"
n/a WokeAsFuck 2017-01-12
If you don't, you're transphobic.
Some women have deep voices, beards, penises, balls and are called Frank.
n/a lvl99SkrubRekker 2017-01-12
Username checks out. Lol
n/a going_for_a_wank 2017-01-12
^ This ^
n/a HostOfTheNightmare 2017-01-12
"I'm Frack. Shit!"
n/a celocanth13 2017-01-12
CB2 stands with /r/drama in that liking women is gross and we're all gaybois
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-12
would you let me shitpost in cb2 without banning me?
n/a mikerhoa 2017-01-12
Only one way to find out...
n/a SpookyMood 2017-01-12
That ban was very rude
/u/supergauntlet delete your account
n/a The_Reason_Trump_Won 2017-01-12
n/a glmox 2017-01-12
i feel like if you just automatically posted on every submission it would still almost always work
n/a TheButtholeOfBravery 2017-01-12
Would it work that one time some dude had a meltdown on /r/grilledcheese over what constitutes a grilled cheese?
Cause I sure think it would.
n/a The_Reason_Trump_Won 2017-01-12
Cheese is life. So yes.
n/a heartfullofhatred 2017-01-12
Something something winsconsin
n/a FitAndDumb 2017-01-12
Pretty much
n/a NuclearSpaceLegos 2017-01-12
Eh, this doesn't really apply here.
n/a HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-01-12
People who post nudes on Reddit are objectifying women. Sad.
n/a YourGayOpinion 2017-01-12
I feel like, until 3D printer technology improves, they are actually just visualizing them.
n/a freet0 2017-01-12
You can look at porn, just no being efficient about it. You type boobs into google images and take what you get dammit!
n/a Wraith_GraveSpell 2017-01-12
Apparently any sort of statistical analysis of porn is misogyny.
n/a TheTrueNobody 2017-01-12
u/siegef4ce your watch sucks
n/a the-fight-picker 2017-01-12
u/Dolphin_Gokkun - I hope you have learned the error of your ways and shall henceforth stop being so wrong.
P.S. I'm totally stealing this line. You're doing the Lord's work u/Dolphin_Gokkun.
n/a MapleMemeMagician 2017-01-12
Xpost /r/whitebeauty
n/a squarefaces 2017-01-12
well set b8 m8
n/a ghostchamber 2017-01-12
I like women. I also like their bodies.
n/a IAMGODDESSOFCATSAMA 2017-01-12
He's right tbh. I don't particularly like women very much but I love their bodies. I don't particularly like anyone though, so take that with a grain of salt.
n/a DuckHuntHotDog 2017-01-12
That heatmap does suck though, not because of the thumbnails, but more because of the color range. Using the range of light blue to dark blue is stupid because the contrast is harder to see which is why everyone else who ever made a heatmap uses a green to red color range.
n/a SpookyMood 2017-01-12
That map was fucking awful
n/a Tilting_Gambit 2017-01-12
/u/imnotbeingsarcastic9 I'd actually appreciate hearing more about your viewpoint here:
To speak for /u/Dolphin_Gokkun for a second, that was literally his enitre point. He's saying "Some men appreciate women's bodies, get over it." He doesn't personally know those women. He's just exclaiming that some men and women enjoy looking at those pornographic images, hence why the post is popular and hence why those subs are popular. And you agree with him. Because you took what he said and rephrased it to seem adversarial.
With your logic either you agree that /u/Dolphin_Gokkun is right; some men enjoy looking at women and there's nothing wrong with that.
OR
It is immoral for men to be attracted to women's bodies.
Which is it? Or am I missing a line of reasoning that's apparent to you but not from your short comment?
n/a merqury26 2017-01-12
I believe we can all agree that there is one extremely creepy and problematic aspect of that heat map: where is my gay version with sexybois?
n/a 80BAIT08 2017-01-12
That made me laugh.
n/a BannedFromImzy 2017-01-12
/u/jk_211 you can't really complain at the same time that : heterosexuals are a majority, and that when you look at the numbers the most popular posts are the ones interesting this majority. It's like how numbers work. You can't change the rules of addition and such to represent minorities more in statistics, that's not how it works.