/r/news respectfully discusses whether attacking someone for their political beliefs is justified

55  2017-01-21 by fucked_my_shit_up

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If these are the supposed people bashing the fash you guys are in trouble cause they seem like a bunch of pussies

dude.... just be cool ok?

you're really killing my vibe here and it's not ok.

Picked on the wrong one that time.

Can you imagine how fucking awesome it would be to find Alex Jones out in the wild? It'd be hilarious.

To be honest, when you advocate the violent racial displacement of millions of people to create your white homeland in North America, you can't be shocked when people react violently.

Doesn't make it legally justified given the former is "just an opinion" for the time being, but it makes it unsurprising.

Wow leftists are spineless pussies

people break shit

ERMAGUD THAT'S A CRIME!!! YOU CAN'T DO THAT!!!

Every political ideology supports some kind of violence though tbh, if we follow the line of thinking that actual violence is an acceptable response to advocating violence, sooner or later everyone will be rioting and killing eachother in the streets.

Spencer is obnoxious as fuck and there was no serious damage so I don't have much of problem with what happened here though.

Every political ideology supports some kind of violence though tbh

True, taxation/property/government is theft etc.., right? That said, Spencer's ideology is necessarily a lot more violent than any in the mainstream.

if we follow the line of thinking that actual violence is an acceptable response to advocating violence, sooner or later everyone will be rioting and killing eachother in the streets.

i fail to see any issue with this

I'm going to be honest, I'm a leftist and vote Green Party because I like to smell my farts and drink my piss (and partly because the Green party in my home country isn't infested with mongoloids), but there's just as much scum, if not more on this side of the aisle as on the right. Words can't describe how much I hate the fucking idiots who riot or get aggressive if they don't get their way, and I really can't blame riot police for beating the ever living shit out of rioters, especially the masked 'lul anarchy' or 'lul social revolution' mental midgets.
And political tribalism is alive and well as seen in the comments in that r/news depravity ridden cesspit of a post with people excusing assault just because he punched someone who they perceive to have opposite views. And then these missing link retards have the nerve to ask why Tump won.

tl;dr: waaah, waaah, waaah, leftist scum tears of rage.

OMG NOBODY TOLD ME HE COMMITTED ASSAULT!?!?!

Clutches pearls

Trump didn't win because of Spencer, whatever pol thinks. Spencer is like, an actual neo-nazi. I guess its the equivalent of some hardcore black bloc commie speaking about wanting to kill all capitalists and reactionaries and leading such a movement getting punched by a conservative.

literally the only people who think Trump won because of Spencer outside of /pol/ are hardcore leftists and the media.

I don't hear anything about spencer himself irl but I do hear that neonazis and white supremacists are a large part of why trump won from "moderate" leftists/other liberals all the time

to be fair, everyone who voted for trump is either a white supremacist or the bull of the wife of a white supremacist. that's just facts

i looked into it just to get an idea of the volume of this guys 'supporter base', his most listened podcast had 100k listens, and he has ~25k follower on social media.

compare that to the English language Al-Nusra spokesperson (Bilal Abdul Kareem) and he has just under half the amount of followers/viewers.

even still both of them are relatively small, but it's interesting because mainstream media attempting to associate Trump with radical right politics is 99%+ of Spencer's public profile. nobody would have a clue he exists otherwise (as I assume anyone not interested in MENA conflicts has no fuckin idea who Bilal Abdul Kareem is).

Have you listened to Spencer? He advocates nonviolence and has actually shut down violence at his talks.

Wow, what a hero (except for the being a racist piece of shit thing).

He's not really any more racist than a black man who believes in black history month and celebrating black culture.

Huh?

and yet he's still a bitchass Nazi.

Hardly. I keep looking for this violent Nazi/KKK alt-right presence, but it seems pretty good at flying under the radar. I guess I'll have to go visit stormfront if I want to find it.

I have no idea who the guy is, but I don't think assaulting someone because they have different views is warranted in any situation. Not only are you strengthening their beliefs and base, but you're also pissing on whatever 'message' you're trying to send.

still waiting for Antifa to bash an Imam who preaches gender segregation and disassociation with Shia, but I think we'll be waiting indefinitely for some reason...

They're too busy acting like animals to realize the hypocrisy.
You don't understand, I'm sure destroying public property, smashing windows, beating innocent bystanders and burning down cars is going to send a message!
Maybe I'm a bad person, but I always enjoy seeing the riot police beat the living shit out of Antifa morons.

Any reason for attacking anyone ever is justified.... unless they are fat, then it's just fucking cruel

Lol they only punched him. If they had any balls they would have cut his fascist throat open.

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Ok Jewdank

Generally, black communities are more violent because they can't control their temper and they glorify violent responses to getting offended, in fact you can see it in these very comments. Some advice for all the blacks here, if you want to improve your community don't get violent when you're offended and don't glorify violent altercation, but you're honestly probably too stupid to understand so you'll keep shooting eachother and living shitty lives lol

You're half joking but the "honor culture" thing is kinda real. Southerners- ghetto black or hillbilly white alike- seem to love it.

It's big in Hispanic and Arab societies as well. You can call it machismo, bravado or anything else, what it comes down to is people acting tough to prove they are better than others.

It's important in /r/drama culture, too. If SirLionheart were here I'd punch him right in the face.

Literally just performative masculinity.

Masculinity as a performance art? I like that. It's still better than watching a feminist spew red paint out of her cooch and calling it art.

I give that mediocre response about 14 out of 88.

It's not just violent. You have to talk like a half-retarded chipmunk or they get pissed at you for acting "too white". And god forbid you do well at school.

Wrong, our grandparents had a different word for attacking Nazis - bravery.

Weird, my grandpa always called it "war".

> haha our grandparents sure did bash the fash!11 > ugh, old people shouldn't be allowed to vote, that's why Brexit happened and Trump won

Really makes you think.

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I wonder how many of these guys heads' would explode if they found out the Nazis weren't actually white nationalist, but several allied leaders like Winston Churchill were.

I wonder how many of these guys heads' would explode if they found out the Nazis weren't actually white nationalist, but several allied leaders like Winston Churchill were.

What definition of "white nationalist" are you using...?

Well, it's actually "national socialism", so let's break it down.

UK: socialized healthcare + nationalized country = ??? (I'll let you do the math)

When you look at it closely, modern liberal SJWs have more in common with national socialists than the people they're accusing. Something to think about, hmmmm?

Poe's

how fucking weak do you have to be to have a running start suckerpunch and only stun the dude you hit for about 2 seconds?

"No no attacking people for their beliefs is terrible, but they're -commies- -democracts- -republican- -capitalists- -black- alt right so it's okay.

Suckerpunches are weird, they are so cowardly that they invoke a primal fury in me.

It is just bearly better than balls kicking.

This is good drama tho 😹

'Cowardly' is an idiot's way of thinking. If you've got a good reason to be violent, winning is the only thing that matters, because losing means that you're dead, your woman is raped and everything you love is going to burn.

If you don't have a good reason to suckerpunch a guy, you don't got a good reason to punch him at all. If you don't got a good enough reason to slit a man's throat while he's sleeping, then you've got no business killing him at all.

It's not that, it's that turnabout is always fair play.

It's not a good tactic, and it's not the target that makes it okay. It's that they used it first. And if you decide to play by some other, 'nicer' version of the rules than the one your opponent plays by, well, let me know how that works out for you.

You people and your sandbox understanding of morality. You are children raised on the simplistic morality of saturday morning cartoons. You're not quite old enough to 'get' why life can't work that way.

If someone tries to kill me, I'm trying to kill them right back, whether killing is wrong or not. And if someone wants to destroy my livelihood for my opinions, I will destroy them for theirs. It's not 'no bad tactics, just bad targets', it's Tit-for-tat, and that's an entirely different thing.

Edit: It's the difference between self-defense and murder. They'll never stop until they get stung by this in a real way--until they are too terrified that they, too, might lose their jobs and careers to try to take any scalps of their own. That's how the world works. People don't do the right thing. They do what they think they can get away with. And if you sit there and take it like a fucking punk, they will never stop fucking you.

Suckerpunches are weird, they are so cowardly that they invoke a primal fury in me.

It is just bearly better than balls kicking.

This is good drama tho 😹

Jesus Christ, when are these retards going to learn? If they keep attacking the other side first, it's gonna give them the moral high ground and more opportunities to act like martyrs. How is that so hard to understand?

Right, they should punch themselves instead. Think of all the moral high ground they could farm from there.

I firmly believe that all of those political extremist types should punch themselves. Multiple times. While holding sharp objects.

If you can't persecute someone for their political beliefs what can you persecute them for? Political violence= best violence.

Nazi aint got humanity.

Discusses? What's there to discuss of course it is as long as the guy getting attacked disagrees with me