The anxiety about calling Donald Trump a fascist was also enabled by many liberals and progressives who were desperate to appear fair-minded by being politically generous to their conservative and Republican foes.
Oh that's why Trump won. Liberals and progressives didn't call him a fascist enough, well lesson learned, at least we know how to take the country back from those fucking deplorables now
You mean spending your time speaking to people who were going to donate to your campaign/vote for you anyway, instead of shoring up your "firewall" is a bad idea?
Don't you read New York Magazine? She lost because she, and her campaign were too smart. They were so smart they were dumb, which still makes them smart, and they lost because reasons.
Honestly tbh he won because liberals called his supporters fascists and nazis in the first place. Like, damn, how are you supposed to win anyone to your side if you insult them? Lol who did you expect them to vote for? lbr you took away our super-size sodas, policied our language, and called us racist while supporting reverse-racism.
You liberals deserve everything you get because it's your fault people voted for Trump. Not the "stupid alt-righters" or (((fake news))). You.
I am not responsible for my own actions. Fuck you, mom. If you didn't take away my XBox I wouldn't have shit on the carpet.
Like, damn, how are you supposed to win anyone to your side if you insult them?
"Win fascists to our side? I don't want them on my side! Screw them! We need to win without them to prove that their ideology is wrong and ours is right!"
Oh that's why Trump won. Liberals and progressives didn't call him a fascist enough, well lesson learned, at least we know how to take the country back from those fucking deplorables now
The "Democrats are losing because they play nice, follow the rules, and aren't actually trying" meme continues to please. Count how many times someone says "the gloves are coming off". They've been saying it for 8+ years now. I'm sure they've just been pretending to be retarded for that entire time, though.
I mean, the DNC loses because they decided to let the GOP gerrymander most of the country, then rampant voter suppression followed.
The GOP is also just really fucking good at spinning their own failures on the DNC.
And rural America tends to be really dumb so they fall for it every time. I wouldn't be shocked if they managed to gut medicare and claim it was Obamas fault.
Gerrymandered like Maryland and Illinois? Didn't know republicans owned that.
Right, nations like Denmark and India have stringent voter ID laws but as soon as it's implemented here it's racists. We know from leaked video that a DNC chair in NY admits to rampant voter fraud, yet the left makes this out to be impossible.
Those rural rubes are no dumber than inner city folk who continually vote for the same party.
The DNC lost 3 of there extremely reliable blue wall states, that's unprecedented in modern elections. She was just a shit candidate. More qualified but corrupt to the bone and with the charisma of Vince Fosters corpse.
Right, nations like Denmark and India have stringent voter ID laws but as soon as it's implemented here it's racists. We know from leaked video that a DNC chair in NY admits to rampant voter fraud, yet the left makes this out to be impossible.
Yeah, you're a moron, 10+ studies, over a billion votes, less than 40 cases of voter fraud.
Not only that, I like how you think this is about voter ID laws, no friend, let me educate you.
In particular, the court found that North Carolina lawmakers requested data on racial differences in voting behaviors in the state. "This data showed that African Americans disproportionately lacked the most common kind of photo ID, those issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV)," the judges wrote.
So the legislators made it so that the only acceptable forms of voter identification were the ones disproportionately used by white people. "With race data in hand, the legislature amended the bill to exclude many of the alternative photo IDs used by African Americans," the judges wrote. "The bill retained only the kinds of IDs that white North Carolinians were more likely to possess."
Most strikingly, the judges point to a "smoking gun" in North Carolina's justification for the law, proving discriminatory intent. The state argued in court that "counties with Sunday voting in 2014 were disproportionately black" and "disproportionately Democratic," and said it did away with Sunday voting as a result.
"Thus, in what comes as close to a smoking gun as we are likely to see in modern times, the State’s very justification for a challenged statute hinges explicitly on race — specifically its concern that African Americans, who had overwhelmingly voted for Democrats, had too much access to the franchise," the judges write in their decision.
Nice try.
Those rural rubes are no dumber than inner city folk who continually vote for the same party.
The DNC lost 3 of their extremely reliable blue wall states, that's unprecedented in modern elections. She was just a shit candidate. More qualified but corrupt to the bone and with the charisma of Vince Foster's corpse.
Trump is more corrupt than Clinton is, and is already blatantly retarded.
Literally trying to lie about crowd sizes at his event, and accused the media of lying for reporting the truth.
You're going to say India, based on a caste system yet still requiring voter ID is more disenfranchising than the United States?
I didn't see anything comparing overall rural voters to inner city voters.
Trump can't be as corrupt because has been in office all of one day. Hillary is just like Dick Chaney, she couldn't be more corrupt. You don't mane a quarter of a billion dollars because people really like to hear you talk for 45 minutes.
So NPR and WaPo, owned by Bezos, a Hillary supporter/donator is your undeniable proof? Ok
GOP during Obama: "Government spending is too high! The budget needs to be balanced!"
GOP during Trump: "Let's spend trillions on infrastructure and a wall while lowering taxes!"
This country deserves Trump. The only bright spot is that Trump has the balls to tell the Chinese to eat shit, like we should have done five years ago.
Target Republican officials with phone calls and emails. Let them know that if they support Trump there will be negative consequences at the ballot box.
That will teach those Republicans! Call them up and tell them that as a card carrying democrat you aren't going to vote for them like they don't know that already. Lol
Borrow from the obstructionist strategy that Republicans used against Barack Obama. Turn the metaphorical map upside down and practice political Aikido.
The Senate can make up its own rules of order, so I doubt that it would happen this way. What will happen is the Senate will alter the rule allowing filibustering (Dick Cheney's "Nuclear Option") and SCOTUS will uphold the rule change.
Exactly this. The only checks on ending the filibuster completely are GOP Senate traditionalists like Hatch, McCain and Cornyn. They might put principles over politics and keep what's left of it in place to preserve some power for the minority.
SCOTUS wouldn't even consider hearing a case regarding the rules of the Senate.
I believe part of the rationale for having the filibuster is that only a third of the chamber faces reelection every two years, whereas the entire House has to face the people in that span.
To put it into political perspective, there's a small chance the GOP loses seats in the House in 2018 while picking up seats in the Senate, just because the Democrats have more Senate seats to defend this cycle.
Just to be pedantic for a moment (since this is law, where pedantry is often appropriate) -- it's conceivable that the Senate could adopt a rule that is unconstitutional.
It would have to be something that contradicts the text of Art I Sec 3, though. Even a rule like "Women speak last" may ultimately be a "political question" and beyond the reach of SCOTUS.
They don't need the SC for that. It's not a legal thing, it's of the Senate rules. The leader of the senate can rule it out of order any time they want to.
Target Republican officials with phone calls and emails. Let them know that if they support Trump there will be negative consequences at the ballot box.
Lol, no one who reads Salon, unironically, is voting GOP anyways.
Not the 32 presidential election.
Nor did his party win a majority or even seats enough to form a coalition goverment till after he was appointed chancellor . (Not that all would label the March 33 election as a free one)
No, he didn't. He took power by force despite not winning, nor did his party have a majority of seats. His only real position was appointed, and he just arbitrarily dismissed the Senate and took total control. Everyone just sorta went along with it.
No, not it doesn't. If it did you wouldn't be publishing that article and your company's HQ would be ransacked and closed as enemies of the state.
Shut up. Trump is a shithead that should never reached the presidency but this casually throwing around of fascist and somehow believing it fits him is retarded. He's demagogue with connections to a foreign government and he only cares about himself.
With the amount of salt and autistic screeching coming from liberals and minorities, at this point i wouldn't mind trump making death camps for them all, even though it'd mean my death as well.
And trump isnt doing any salty autistic screeching? I dont get it. You all know fully well that Trump is weak and pathetic. For the most part he got into power because he spoke to the fears in weak and pathetic people and gave false promises to uneducated and angry people. Its mindblowing that this sub is not making fun of Trumps tantrums and backwards behavior every other day.
Good, think about all the salt mines we will have. We will never have to worry about our salt supply. And with all that pink hair, it's going to look like the expensive Himalayan salt. Profit.
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n/a clintonbro 2017-01-21
Oh that's why Trump won. Liberals and progressives didn't call him a fascist enough, well lesson learned, at least we know how to take the country back from those fucking deplorables now
n/a Tehpolecat 2017-01-21
All these fucking pretenders not falling in line and trying to assess the situation for themselves, how can they even call themselves liberals.
n/a jubbergun 2017-01-21
Haven't you heard? Liberals and moderates are enablers who allow people like Drumpf to take power. They are literally the enemy! /s
n/a Nomadlads 2017-01-21
And I was sitting here thinking that he won be Hillary's campaign focused to heavily on a few coast states. It's so clear now.
n/a 47BAD243E4 2017-01-21
and her spending months doing ??? without any appearances
and the sudden cancellations
and the health problems that were "just a conspiracy"
n/a Garrand 2017-01-21
You mean spending your time speaking to people who were going to donate to your campaign/vote for you anyway, instead of shoring up your "firewall" is a bad idea?
n/a azriel777 2017-01-21
n/a uniqueguy263 2017-01-21
That would have gone blue anyway, even if Hillary turned out to be an evil robot trying to destroy the earth
n/a Perkisize_With_Tony 2017-01-21
Don't you read New York Magazine? She lost because she, and her campaign were too smart. They were so smart they were dumb, which still makes them smart, and they lost because reasons.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/12/clinton-campaign-may-have-been-too-smart-to-win.html
n/a RecallRethuglicans 2017-01-21
Well it is true. People didn't really get how hateful Trump actually is.
n/a wwyzzerdd 2017-01-21
Hello first time voter, thank you for coming...
n/a Drumpfucker 2017-01-21
You are talking to a decorated multi-your /r/politics shitposter. Show some fucking respect
n/a quinotauri 2017-01-21
How are those different?
n/a FreeRobotFrost 2017-01-21
Honestly tbh he won because liberals called his supporters fascists and nazis in the first place. Like, damn, how are you supposed to win anyone to your side if you insult them? Lol who did you expect them to vote for? lbr you took away our super-size sodas, policied our language, and called us racist while supporting reverse-racism.
You liberals deserve everything you get because it's your fault people voted for Trump. Not the "stupid alt-righters" or (((fake news))). You.
I am not responsible for my own actions. Fuck you, mom. If you didn't take away my XBox I wouldn't have shit on the carpet.
n/a clintonbro 2017-01-21
Idk wtf you're on about but it's probably fascist af so pls fuck off
n/a FreeRobotFrost 2017-01-21
ACTUALLY I'm antifa, but if you can't figure that out then maybe you should get back to your white laces and head shaving party.
n/a TheCodexx 2017-01-21
"Win fascists to our side? I don't want them on my side! Screw them! We need to win without them to prove that their ideology is wrong and ours is right!"
n/a TheCodexx 2017-01-21
The "Democrats are losing because they play nice, follow the rules, and aren't actually trying" meme continues to please. Count how many times someone says "the gloves are coming off". They've been saying it for 8+ years now. I'm sure they've just been pretending to be retarded for that entire time, though.
n/a IDFSHILL 2017-01-21
I mean, the DNC loses because they decided to let the GOP gerrymander most of the country, then rampant voter suppression followed.
The GOP is also just really fucking good at spinning their own failures on the DNC.
And rural America tends to be really dumb so they fall for it every time. I wouldn't be shocked if they managed to gut medicare and claim it was Obamas fault.
n/a Perkisize_With_Tony 2017-01-21
Gerrymandered like Maryland and Illinois? Didn't know republicans owned that.
Right, nations like Denmark and India have stringent voter ID laws but as soon as it's implemented here it's racists. We know from leaked video that a DNC chair in NY admits to rampant voter fraud, yet the left makes this out to be impossible.
Those rural rubes are no dumber than inner city folk who continually vote for the same party.
The DNC lost 3 of there extremely reliable blue wall states, that's unprecedented in modern elections. She was just a shit candidate. More qualified but corrupt to the bone and with the charisma of Vince Fosters corpse.
n/a lol-da-mar-s-cool 2017-01-21
The difference is that ID is free in India and Denmark, and sent to every citizen, not the case in the US.
n/a IDFSHILL 2017-01-21
Alright, so let's do this.
http://election.princeton.edu/2012/12/30/gerrymanders-part-1-busting-the-both-sides-do-it-myth/
Yeah, you're a moron, 10+ studies, over a billion votes, less than 40 cases of voter fraud.
Not only that, I like how you think this is about voter ID laws, no friend, let me educate you.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/29/the-smoking-gun-proving-north-carolina-republicans-tried-to-disenfranchise-black-voters/?utm_term=.bf41e7abdd0a
Nice try.
Except, they are, by far.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/education-not-income-predicted-who-would-vote-for-trump/
Trump is more corrupt than Clinton is, and is already blatantly retarded.
Literally trying to lie about crowd sizes at his event, and accused the media of lying for reporting the truth.
This is fascism in the making.
n/a Perkisize_With_Tony 2017-01-21
Are you familiar with Gish galloping?
You cite the lack of voter fraud in Denmark, India, but provide no source. You also ignore this https://www.google.com/amp/s/bc.marfeel.com/amp/www.nationalreview.com/article/438754/james-okeefe-voter-fraud-videos-prove-voter-frauds-real
You're going to say India, based on a caste system yet still requiring voter ID is more disenfranchising than the United States?
I didn't see anything comparing overall rural voters to inner city voters.
Trump can't be as corrupt because has been in office all of one day. Hillary is just like Dick Chaney, she couldn't be more corrupt. You don't mane a quarter of a billion dollars because people really like to hear you talk for 45 minutes.
So NPR and WaPo, owned by Bezos, a Hillary supporter/donator is your undeniable proof? Ok
n/a IDFSHILL 2017-01-21
I sure am, and nothing I did was anywhere near that. But nice try.
No, my numbers were for the US, actually.
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/10/trumps-bogus-voter-fraud-claims/
Sorry, Keefe is a well known con artist that has been busted making fake videos over 8 times, including ones about voter fraud.
https://thinkprogress.org/fact-check-non-citizen-voter-in-james-o-keefe-s-voter-fraud-video-is-actually-a-citizen-c979dd4c9ef0
I'll make you deal, I'll provide second sources for everything I linked here if you can point out what is factually incorrect in anything I linked.
n/a UpvoteIfYouDare 2017-01-21
GOP during Obama: "Government spending is too high! The budget needs to be balanced!"
GOP during Trump: "Let's spend trillions on infrastructure and a wall while lowering taxes!"
This country deserves Trump. The only bright spot is that Trump has the balls to tell the Chinese to eat shit, like we should have done five years ago.
n/a lvl99SkrubRekker 2017-01-21
That will teach those Republicans! Call them up and tell them that as a card carrying democrat you aren't going to vote for them like they don't know that already. Lol
Lolk this guy has to be retarded
n/a clintonbro 2017-01-21
>tfw Trumps supreme court rules the current method of filibustering unconstitutional
n/a taterbizkit 2017-01-21
The Senate can make up its own rules of order, so I doubt that it would happen this way. What will happen is the Senate will alter the rule allowing filibustering (Dick Cheney's "Nuclear Option") and SCOTUS will uphold the rule change.
n/a pm_me_pics_of_ur_nan 2017-01-21
Exactly this. The only checks on ending the filibuster completely are GOP Senate traditionalists like Hatch, McCain and Cornyn. They might put principles over politics and keep what's left of it in place to preserve some power for the minority.
SCOTUS wouldn't even consider hearing a case regarding the rules of the Senate.
n/a FuckURedditor 2017-01-21
The filibuster was a mistake. I wanted the Democrats to do away with it before, and I want the Republicans to do it now.
Elections should matter more than they currently do. Winning an election should give you a lot of leeway for two years. The filibuster prevents that.
And yes, I mean that even when it goes against my political wishes otherwise.
n/a pm_me_pics_of_ur_nan 2017-01-21
I believe part of the rationale for having the filibuster is that only a third of the chamber faces reelection every two years, whereas the entire House has to face the people in that span.
To put it into political perspective, there's a small chance the GOP loses seats in the House in 2018 while picking up seats in the Senate, just because the Democrats have more Senate seats to defend this cycle.
n/a taterbizkit 2017-01-21
Just to be pedantic for a moment (since this is law, where pedantry is often appropriate) -- it's conceivable that the Senate could adopt a rule that is unconstitutional.
It would have to be something that contradicts the text of Art I Sec 3, though. Even a rule like "Women speak last" may ultimately be a "political question" and beyond the reach of SCOTUS.
n/a pm_me_pics_of_ur_nan 2017-01-21
I didn't want to get too much into it, but you're right. I meant any rule that doesn't explicity violate Article 1 but didn't clarify enough.
n/a FuckURedditor 2017-01-21
They don't need the SC for that. It's not a legal thing, it's of the Senate rules. The leader of the senate can rule it out of order any time they want to.
n/a ballid 2017-01-21
the animu is code geass if anyone was wondering
n/a HillaryDidNothnWrong 2017-01-21
It's Salon, dude, it IS retarded.
n/a Awayfone 2017-01-21
Hey ! I think they perfer "intelligence challenged". The r-word makes the retards at salon feel inadequate and icky
n/a Chicup 2017-01-21
Lol, no one who reads Salon, unironically, is voting GOP anyways.
n/a bleepis 2017-01-21
i hate any and all closeups of this man's awful face his eyebrows creep me out
n/a OnlyRacistOnReddit 2017-01-21
So you are an ageist and hate old people.
n/a bleepis 2017-01-21
yes
n/a old_grumpy_grandpa 2017-01-21
Fuck you
n/a bleepis 2017-01-21
muahHAHAHAHAHA
n/a Kazimir-Malevich 2017-01-21
ebic nvelty account bro!!
n/a anotheraccount323 2017-01-21
Don't forget fat. Trump is a tub.
n/a Chavril 2017-01-21
honestly when it comes to old people a bit of fat ends up helping
n/a LadyVetinari 2017-01-21
Definitely not in this case
n/a taterbizkit 2017-01-21
Hey, now. Donito Cheetolini is our president fair and square. There's no reason to go calling him a fascist.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-01-21
Hitler got elected* too!!!
*except not really :/
n/a Awayfone 2017-01-21
Last I checked Trump did win.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-01-21
so did Hitler
n/a Awayfone 2017-01-21
Not the 32 presidential election. Nor did his party win a majority or even seats enough to form a coalition goverment till after he was appointed chancellor . (Not that all would label the March 33 election as a free one)
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-01-21
check out the guy who knows so much about hitler.
n/a Clark_Savage_Jr 2017-01-21
That's real suspicious...
n/a TheCodexx 2017-01-21
No, he didn't. He took power by force despite not winning, nor did his party have a majority of seats. His only real position was appointed, and he just arbitrarily dismissed the Senate and took total control. Everyone just sorta went along with it.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-01-21
oh holy shit what a revelation you have given to me, i had no idea about that detail of history.
n/a uptotwentycharacters 2017-01-21
Yes, if you consider Russians hacking the Electoral College to be "fair and square".
n/a taterbizkit 2017-01-21
Whoosh?
n/a ArchHermit 2017-01-21
As if anybody at Salon knows what a Fascist is.
n/a NoRealsOnlyFeels 2017-01-21
They spelled it right, though. That counts for something, right?
n/a captainpriapism 2017-01-21
i always thought they were accusing him of hating peoples faces
n/a 0ldBasterd 2017-01-21
NOOOOOO!!!!!
n/a cantsaythat 2017-01-21
NOOOOOO!!!!
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-01-21
fuck, donald trump is a total sonuvabitch, but this screech is beyond hilarious.
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-01-21
Man, that's embarrassing.
n/a jombeesuncle 2017-01-21
dude looks like patton oswald.
n/a k_rap 2017-01-21
that's a guy?
n/a Awayfone 2017-01-21
He is pretty good at having a fit. It is wrong how much I enjoyed that video
n/a Brumaired 2017-01-21
No, not it doesn't. If it did you wouldn't be publishing that article and your company's HQ would be ransacked and closed as enemies of the state.
Shut up. Trump is a shithead that should never reached the presidency but this casually throwing around of fascist and somehow believing it fits him is retarded. He's demagogue with connections to a foreign government and he only cares about himself.
n/a WholeLottaToughLove 2017-01-21
Well, he only became president yesterday, there's still hope it'll happen.
n/a Brumaired 2017-01-21
I'm just basing that on German efficiency.
n/a uptotwentycharacters 2017-01-21
The guy's only been in office for what, 27 hours already? Give him some time to start issuing executive orders to round up the degenerates.
n/a TheHeroReditDeserves 2017-01-21
((((degenerates))))
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-01-21
With the amount of salt and autistic screeching coming from liberals and minorities, at this point i wouldn't mind trump making death camps for them all, even though it'd mean my death as well.
n/a FuckURedditor 2017-01-21
in all fairness, I'm not sure that being an annoying cunt is something anyone here should be okay with as a capital crime.
n/a grungebot5000 2017-01-21
annoying cunt is kulak
n/a King_Eirik_Bloodaxe 2017-01-21
You do realize that those camps would force you into closer proximity of these fart-sniffers, right?
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-01-21
I'd hope the killing would be efficient so that I wouldn't spend much time there.
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-01-21
We've got the best gas chambers
n/a nomad1c 2017-01-21
not for long
n/a thekonzo 2017-01-21
And trump isnt doing any salty autistic screeching? I dont get it. You all know fully well that Trump is weak and pathetic. For the most part he got into power because he spoke to the fears in weak and pathetic people and gave false promises to uneducated and angry people. Its mindblowing that this sub is not making fun of Trumps tantrums and backwards behavior every other day.
n/a AceToMouth 2017-01-21
For the most part he got into power because he spoke to the fears in weak and pathetic people and gave false promises to uneducated and angry people.
I thought that was Bernie.
n/a thekonzo 2017-01-21
*false promises
*fears
*uneducated
not really.
n/a stupidplesioth 2017-01-21
http://i.imgur.com/HwD5voI.png
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-01-21
n/a Jacksambuck 2017-01-21
Actual Fascist Taking Power: Say my name.
Salon: F...F...Fascist.
Faschist: You're goddam right.
n/a NO-STUMPING-TRUMP 2017-01-21
"Wow" that "article" used a lot of "air quotes."
n/a thebillstone 2017-01-21
Professional wrestling villain?! Omg
n/a Ennui2778 2017-01-21
I know, right?! In the Battle of the Billionaires, he was clearly the good guy against McMahon.
n/a xjapxn 2017-01-21
BASH
n/a uptotwentycharacters 2017-01-21
THE
n/a itsrattlesnake 2017-01-21
PROLETARIOT
n/a Wordshark 2017-01-21
FAG
n/a Mexagon 2017-01-21
Breaking News: pedofile apologist site hates republicans!
n/a pointmanzero 2017-01-21
I know you assholes want to praise trump but ANDREW WAKEFIELD just attended the white house for trump inauguration.
fuck every last one of you bastards for this.
n/a Stuntman119 2017-01-21
Ooga booga
n/a Soulwound 2017-01-21
Who the fuck is ANDREW WAKEFIELD?
Wait, I don't actually give a fuck. Carry on.
n/a pointmanzero 2017-01-21
Imagine an america without vaccines.
n/a Soulwound 2017-01-21
Less autists? I'm all for it.
n/a pointmanzero 2017-01-21
I can tell you will naturally be dead before I die just from your comment.
n/a PolishPugLady 2017-01-21
Good, think about all the salt mines we will have. We will never have to worry about our salt supply. And with all that pink hair, it's going to look like the expensive Himalayan salt. Profit.
n/a GaryRuppert 2017-01-21
Strange how millions of anti-Trump people are marching if Trump is literally a fascist. Almost like the left cries wolf constantly
n/a TheButtholeOfBravery 2017-01-21
IWe Did It /r/Drama!n/a infinitude 2017-01-21
I like when people talk to America like it's just one person.
n/a Terry_Samuel 2017-01-21
This is actually how they see themselves.
n/a LSeww 2017-01-21
Oh if they keep this shit it will indeed be 8 years
n/a geraldo42 2017-01-21
This isn't drama. Delete your account retard.
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