/u/fscomeau, antihero of /r/wallstreetbets, retires from trading, is going out by going ALL IN with his money/credit cards on Apple, will livestream results on Tuesday

89  2017-01-29 by snallygaster

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holy shit i need to watch this

the earnings call is 4pm CST this tuesday. i'm gonna leave work early. this will be brutal full disclosure i actually do think apple will have a subpar earnings call but WOW what a gamble

Apple is a pretty safe gamble compared to what the guy usually puts money on, but putting literally all of your money and debt on it...oh man

yeah, i've watched dude before. it's more than i can take usually, tbh.

but this is his swan song. i have to see how this turns out.

my prediction: extremely small return

but there's a horrid little man in me who wants to watch fscomeau lose everything

and i'd love to watch his reaction to becoming rich. i bet he'd just gamble it all away, tho

I want him to win big. Then I get maple syrup.

I want him to win so big that he decides to keep trading and loses even more.

I want him to win so big that he decides to keep trading and loses even more.

which is guaranteed to happen, even if he is right. there's no win for /u/fscomeau. we might as well enjoy it

I can see it now.

I MADE MONEY...

I AM THE SMARTEST MAN ALIVE!!!!

Invests everything in Bitcoin

  1. Invest everything in Bitcoin

  2. Bitcoin plummets

  3. Side-hustle money to buy more Bitcoins at the new, discounted price

The alternative is to invest in an ASIC electric beanie baby factory.

but there's a horrid little man in me who wants to watch fscomeau lose everything

Schadenfreude aside, you really shouldn't speak ill of your lovers like that, rie.

and i'd love to watch his reaction to becoming rich. i bet he'd just gamble it all away, tho

Become rich AGAIN. Didn't he start with like 2 mil

You know he's betting on it to crash massively right?

What products has he bought exactly? Is this a futures deal? In which case there's obviously a spectrum of potential losses/gains.

Loads of puts between 120 and 100. A fuckton of 128 calls. It's 122 at the minute. He's OK to millionaire if it does down and fucked if it goes up.

Ya

Apple just went full cuck publicly defending Muslim terrorists. He is fucked 😂

what are you attempting to communicate here, mouth breather

Hi salty libshit!

what does that have to do with your above post

what you're saying makes no sense

are you saying that apple will tank because it "defended Muslim terrorists"?

Hi salty libshit!

you do not communicate very well, and i have a sneaking suspicion you do not understand what is going on in this thread

Hey again salty libshit!

You know /u/riemann1413 is a registered Nazi right? He has over 9000 jew skulls with his name carved in them. So answer his question, cuck.

Hi CTR!

ha ha ha ha ha HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Bernie would have won.

gunfire released

yeah but he won't lose it all regardless of what happens.

Huh? Yeah he could. He said he has $325K, which he said could probably pay off his current debts. If Apple goes up to 128 or above, he'll lose like $275K, leaving him in a huge amount of debt.

If Apple doesn't go down, or only goes down a little, he'll lose $30K+.

When I said he won't lost it all I mean all of the 325k. I was unaware of his debt.

Reminds me of a comment I saw when I made the mistake of wandering into a trading forum.

Hedging is for pussies. Real men make directional trades!

..or something to that effect. Come to think of it, it might have been that subreddit. Such a bro-dude atmosphere. You could substitute NFL teams for the stock symbols and "yardage" for "earnings" and it would be a sports gambling sub.

they're like that irl too

Its a cross of 4chan and Mad Money

I sometimes think of this like playing sports, like bros could compete and have fun playing in the rec leagues and the office beer/softball tournament... Except NYSE and NASDAQ don't have those sort of divisions, so these bros are prepared for the beer leagues and playing against the financial equivalent of the Yankees.

I don't want to be a debby downer but this guy is full of shit. His story hasn't exactly stayed consistent over the years. It's a good read but I'm afraid he's approaching /r/relationships level of creative writing.

This is the first I've heard of this guy, but I am skeptical this is real, also. I suspect OP will not deliver due to "technical difficulties" or something of that nature.

I bet you 5000 dollars he won't deliver!!! Wait....

I'll take that bet

This is like advanced suicide watch.

Keep in mind the holidays just passed.

Please consider donating to his patreon as it's clear both hours he spends day trading are hard work and he needs our help!

4pm CST this tuesda

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Shit, thanks for warning me, I would have flunked this one bad during the stream tuesday loll

jesus fucking christ, dude

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

love this guy

ladies and gentlemen, the man who is gambling away $2.5 million

I am excited like a 4 years old kid

Also he is not the antihero snally, he has made those kids thousands

True, if only by showing them what not to do.

Is he the type to potentially commit suicide on his livestream?

Maybe. Not only will he have lost all of the 2.5 million inherited but all that loan debt.

Fuck me I would think about it at that point

y tho

It's fake

For anyone else I'd agree, but this dude... maybe not.

This is the guy everybody is saying is actually a savant since even the safe stuff he tips actually does shit, right?

Might be a good time to invest big in Apple, if this is the capstone tip.

No, this is the point at which he drops the charade and takes the investment that he knows will be big, rather than the inverse. Everyone else will go big on the opposite end of the trade, they will get fucked, and he will cash in and laugh.

Dudes got a problem

Got 2.5 mill inherited. Gambled 500 k, lost it, gained it back and lost that and even more. Now on his last legs for a final yolo play to "get it back". That is a super bad gambling problem. If he wins he will just delay the inevitable and lose it all again.

Could of just lived off the dividends of 2.5 mill (around 50k a year). If he loses he might do suicide, not joking

50k a year is not bad at all, totally liveable with a moderate amount of luxury.

And if you have a SO works you're sitting pretty.

No its actually pretty good for doing no work. Like take a lesson from your dead relative who was frugal and made that fortune that you inherited and now are squandering

Not bad? It's above the US average, which is above the US median. The majority of people are living off of less than 50k a year, and that doesn't include taxes, expenses, and debt. You can gamble away all the money you could ever want and still live better than almost everyone in the world.

The funny thing is how mad many capitalists get about the idea of socialism because it supposedly incentivizes not working. If you have enough capital (from e.g. an inheritance), you can literally live on unearned income for the rest of your life.

In case of capitalism it's not a problem that negatively affects society in any perceptible way, obviously. The argument is supposed to be utilitarian, not deontological.

it's not a problem that negatively affects society in any perceptible way, obviously.

Are you seriously saying that unearned wealth and inheritance is not negatively affecting society in any perceptible way?

Sure, and the unearned title of king or queen in a monarchy had no negative effects either.

No, I'm saying that the argument saying "but socialism incentivizes not working" does not appeal to moral outrage about lazy people, it says that socialism is unlikely to work because a lot of people would avoid working and there wouldn't be enough stuff.

This argument obviously doesn't apply to capitalism, unless you are trying to seriously argue against a dystopian future where most of the population are multimillionaires living on interest and there's no one to work in the factories any more.

Why would people sharing the means of production incentivize them to not work? They still own the means of production, it's just shared. If this logic was a killer blow against socialism then it would mean that no capitalism firm could function as all the middle managers etc would stop working, as any successes of their own would just be reaped by those above them.

Why would people sharing the means of production incentivize them to not work?

First of all, the exact meaning of socialism is very vague (probably intentionally) and spans all the way from Sweden to Cambodia and could mean anything up to and including anarcho-communism (but still different from the "real communism" which is an unfathomable further development), so it's hard to pin that down definitively. But as far as it's guided by the principle of "from everyone by their ability, to everyone by their needs", there's a reasonable suspicion about the validity of the approaches to making the first part work.

In a capitalist firm, the workers who don't work are fired, which they don't want to be because unemployment is miserable existence. For further info refer to various explanations of how "poverty is backbone of capitalism" etc.

First of all, the exact meaning of socialism is very vague (probably intentionally)

No it's not. Socialism means the working class controls the means of production; alternatively put, in some way, the community has to democratically decide how the productive machinery of society is put to use. This has always been the definition of socialism, no matter which dictator or college kid decides otherwise.

In a capitalist firm, the workers who don't work are fired, which they don't want to be because unemployment is miserable existence.

How is this different than in socialism? If you are able to work your share and refuse then good luck sharing in the produced goods and services, unless there's enough extra left over.

This has always been the definition of socialism, no matter which dictator or college kid decides otherwise.

In a capitalist firm, the workers who don't work are fired, which they don't want to be because unemployment is miserable existence.

How is this different than in socialism? If you are able to work your share and refuse then good luck sharing in the produced goods and services, unless there's enough extra left over.

For further info refer to various explanations of how "poverty is backbone of capitalism" etc.

Which you forgot to quote and respond to.

Straight talk: if your rallying cry for socialism is that it wouldn't be as inhumane to poor people as your capitalism strawman, then you have to explain what makes people work 8-5 five days a week.

That's kind of a strawman though. The criticism is that sometimes incentives may get altered such that work is misallocated; for example, steel still being made to be sent into a glutted market.

If you invest 2.5M in low risk portfolios you are basically guaranteed ~80k a year for life.

50K on dividends is taxed less than at 50K from income, so you have even more money than the average working schlub

Lol, the dude never inherited $2.5m. You people are so gullible

Could of just lived off the dividends of 2.5 mill (around 50k a year)

50k a year in dividends would be a massive lowball, he could be pulling closer to 100k with almost no risk

Depends on how he invests, obviously. Buy a nice house in a cheaper area for $400k, put another $500k into t bonds, then the rest into the market. More than enough to live a good life, hire a cleaner once a week, drive a decent car etc... Especially given he could probably rent out a room for an extra income stream given he's single.

Yeah, I went through a year of trying to trade actively. It became apparent that I was gambling away my savings. Finally I got out with a 50% loss. Never again.

Trading is gambling but you're allowed to count cards. You just sucked at it.

You really think anyone on Wallstreetbets doesn't have a problem?

Yeh, a lack of yacht problem

With this guy's history I'd bet on aapl going through the roof

MUH JACK-LESS HEADPHONES

He's retired several times btw

At least he's not shorting penny stocks I guess.

r Do you have that thread saved?

I looked for it but couldn't find it. It was either on /r/investing or WSB

One final thing. I don’t know if God exists. I won’t pretend that I suddenly believe in Him (or Her), like so many do in their time of need, but if you do exist God: please, please, please, please, please help me. I have never been lucky in this life and you have thrown many obstacles in my way, but if you help me here, everything is forgiven.

Poor unlucky bastard. Not one good break in his entire life.

The day he passed away, I learned he was bequeathing me over 2.5 million dollars.

Oh...

Well. I know what outcome I'm rooting for on Tuesday.

but if you do exist God: [..] if you help me here, everything is forgiven.

Leaning on God with emotional blackmail like that is inadvisable.

honestly surprised he didn't try kek

Yeah, that's a very clear point in the Old Testament

oh god hes going to kill himself im so excited this will be best drama bomb

/u/fscomeau could I get some maple syrup when you win big? I'm rooting for you!

Why didn't he simply buy shares in the brokers instead? Watch Trading Places, they're bookies, and they always win.

Because if he BOUGHT shares, he'd lose money if APPL goes down (which is what he bets on). That's why his options (pun intended) were either shorting or buying puts.

For those who don't know /u/fscomeau is a well known trading genius, renown for his remarkably accurate calls.