@realDonaldTrump Without Obamacare I would have no insurance. I voted for you, don't let me down and take away my healthcare.
Jesus. How do people like this actually exist? How many thousands of times did Trump shout from the rooftops guaranteeing that he was going to scrap pretty much everything Obama-related??
I'd ask "what part of 'repeal and replace' don't you understand?", but, well, the answer is obvious.
As well, "replacing" a broken-ass healthcare law with something "better" is not a conservative idea AT ALL. In fact, if you didn't tell me who said it, I would have said it was Bernie
But oh no big orange evil man said it so FUCK EVERYONE YALL ARE ALL NAZIS
The ACA was not a step in the direction of single-payer. Trump's replacement almost certainly won't be, either. I probably won't consider myself adequately informed, 4 years from now, to decide if it's actually an improvement.
nah man, byzantine, thousand-page laws that no one actually reads are the only possible way to legislate health care in first-world countries. otherwise it's dirty socialism just like the ussr
Some people. Premium growth every year since 2009 has been very low, ACA certainly didn't cause this to occur but other then a bump in 2010 when policy requirements were increased its had a fairly small impact on premium growth. Absurd state increases that have occurred were not sustained (EG states had unusually low growth and then had a single year catch-up), were mostly caused by the initial stupid focus on co-op's and nationally were offset by rates falling. Factoring in the tax credit individual rates actually fell both this year and last year.
There are certainly things in ACA that could be improved (and also many things that were nonsense from the start, aforementioned co-ops as an example) but when people claim its failing I don't understand by which metric they are talking about. More people have access to healthcare, private expenditure is effectively flat and Medicaid/Medicare/state innovation waivers are probably the most significant improvement to healthcare in many decades.
Even the GOP plans for "repeal & replace" essentially keep most of ACA in place with the exception of the mandates and HCPT tax. All of the GOP proposals are less aggressive then ACA on transferring funds & responsibility of public healthcare delivery to the states (all the plans lack Medicare block grants, something ACA was going to be starting next year, given early results of Medicaid waiver programs something that would reduce public healthcare spending). At this point I can't see why much of the opposition exists beyond simple partisanship or misunderstandings of what ACA actually does.
Anecdote is not data, there has not been an increase that large since the exchanges have existed. The largest ever was this year where Phoenix increased by 145% for the benchmark silver plan (due to the loss of two insurers from the market), even then due to the affordability restrictions and tax credit the number of people who felt that increase was very small (anyone who qualified for the tax credit in its entirety in Phoenix had a 0% increase this year).
Yeah I'm not talking about the "benchmark silver plan". I'm talking about the "you can keep your provider" promise that Obama boondoggled a bunch of middle Americans on
It's the most common reason I get from people when I ask why they personally don't like it. They're all referring to themselves, and at least carry on as if they have the receipts to prove it.
To be fair, keeping the "good parts" of Obamacare, while getting rid of the requirement to purchase it, is going to be disastrous. I assume the Republicans won't do exactly that, because it frankly makes no sense. People would only buy insurance if they have health problems, which means most policies would pay out, which would force premiums up way higher than they are now.
Not that I care that much either way, I get health insurance through work, but it seems like it's going to be bad news for those who don't.
Yes, this was his promise, I'll be interested to see what they propose to try and make people not lose coverage. Hopefully he'll avoid people "dying in the streets" as he often claimed.
I don't see how any of those are mutually exclusive.
You can freak out at something even if you expected it to happen, in fact, it was the things that Trump was promising to do (and so far has delivered on that made people panic about the prospect of a Trump victory.
Expecting things to happen (which is inherent in laughing at others for not doing so) and then seeing them actually happen, is mutually exclusive with a perception of "unpredictability", because you literally just predicted something.
Getting smug that your political opponents supposedly "didn't expect" it is incompatible with belief in the badness of the promises, because you have to reason that they don't see the promised things as bad - otherwise, they wouldn't be your political opponents.
Following through on a few of his promises in the space of a few days doesn't make him reliably predictable. He's proven time and time again to be unpredictable, again, this is one of the traits that his retarded supporters thought was so fabby about him during his campaign.
I think the reason people think their political opponents were "bad" is because they conveniently chose to ignore any of the retarded or downright malicious promises Trump made because it was politically convenient for them. If you're choosing to ignore the evidence that your candidate is making shitty promises because MAGA or whatever, you're an idiot. And honestly, there's a certain level of idiocy that's indistinguishable from malice.
Off the top of my head I'd say hosting a panel with a bunch of women involved in an alleged historical sex crime a few hours before a presidential debate was pretty unpredictable.
I neither claimed such, nor was it what you were disputing. A strawman/goalpost-shift combo, strong play. But you haven't fully accounted for my dedication to seriousposting in the designated shitposting threads.
I've been saying this for days now. He said repeal and replace. People voted for that.
These people are soooo weird. They shit on people who voted and still support trump. They are shitting on people who are openly saying they regret their vote for Trump. They shit on people who went third party.
Literally, the only way to win with these idiots is by having voted for Hillary.
lose an election because of suppressing opposing opinions
Lol people really believe this? I know u/the_reason_trump_won likes to circlejerk in this sub, but Trump won by a razor-thin margin due to a lot of a factors. You could just as easily say that Trump won because of white supremacy (guess who would've won if all the loud and proud racists stayed home on November 8?). In Michigan, where Trump won by a few thousand votes, more than 80K people left the top of the ballot empty.
So please, continue to act like smug liberals on the Internet cost Hillary the election, but it's really not true.
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America elected a mong orangutan, although that speaks volumes about the American people in itself I think the biggest take-away here is that Shitlery Killton came out looking like the worse candidate... Facing a mong orangutan.
We're all here in the eastern hemisphere laughing our asses off.
Yeah I somehow don't think the working class whites in the midwest flipped to Trump because of retarded internet progressives. As much as I enjoy watching those people squirm now, they probably aren't even known to most Trump voters.
Miiight have had more to do with all of their jobs disappearing and their communities descending into poverty and drug addiction.
Exit polling didn't show much in the way of demographics change from the last couple of cycles, people just didn't come out to vote for Clinton.
Turnout fell for both parties from 2012 and 2008, it fell a great deal more for D then R (Trump won with fewer votes then both Romney & McCain lost with). This could be Clinton having the public appeal of a rotting corpse or the media constantly claiming she had basically already won or a combination of both, whatever it was Trump won because people didn't come out to vote not because of tacit support.
/u/he3-1 is a regular contributor to /r/badeconomics, without a doubt the most politically neutral of all the "badof" subs, and actually knows what the fuck he's talking about.
Yeah I somehow don't think the working class whites in the midwest flipped to Trump because of retarded internet progressives.
Not because working class whites in the midwest went on the internet, ran into retarded internet progressives and got their feelings hurt, no.
But because retarded internet progressives managed to propagate mind viruses within the DNC that ultimately convinced them (and HRC) that she didn't have to avoid leaving behind soundbites like "we're going to put a lot of coal miners out of business", didn't have to visit Wisconsin, etc.? Maybe.
No, I'm just pointing out that pro-Russia and anti-Russia narratives aren't terribly consistent, and there are a lot of ways for various folks in the US to infer hypocrisy.
the funniest thing about /r/drama by far is how nobody will ever believe that anyone else there has friends or a life because they're going off their own experience
Every working class white person I know voted the way they did because they felt like the left had abandoned them. They didn't all vote for trump (though most did), but even the most hipstery, "vaccines cause autism" leftist I know didn't vote for her.
Vaccine skeptics have plenty of company in Ashland.
There, doubts about the necessity and safety of immunizations are as much a part of the community as its embrace of naturopathic medicine, environmental ethos and counterculture roots.
The university town, and smaller enclaves of Jackson and Josephine counties, are among pockets in Oregon where parents increasingly seek waivers from some or all of the vaccinations required for schoolchildren.
Twenty-five percent of Ashland kindergartners were exempted from at least one vaccine last year. That dwarfs the average statewide exemption rate of 3.8 percent, a rate that's also inching up.
Oregon has the highest percentage of children enrolled in kindergarten who have been exempted from receiving at least one vaccine, and Ashland, Oregon, has the highest rate of exemptions in the state.
Meredith counts 12 Lane County schools of more than 100 students that have double-digit exemption rates. The highest rate? Seventy-six percent.
razor thin margin
lost the popular vote by over 2 million
won the electoral college by 77K votes in the swing states
80K chose not to vote for either in Michigan alone
I stand by my words. Trump barely won, and just to really piss you off, Comey's late announcement easily could have made the difference. Point is that Trump doesn't have a mandate.
inb4 "then why did the Republicans take the house and senate too?" Because of heavy gerrymandering. In Wisconsin and several other states Republicans have supermajorities in state legislatures despite getting 40% of the vote. In the House the GOP can expect a solid 15-20 seat lead even when the Dems get a majority of the vote.
Just saying North Carolina had to re-draw its districts because the state was found guilty of gerrymandering, with the republican controlled state-senate actively creating districts that disenfranchised minorities. It's extremely doubtful that it was an isolated case but oh well
Of course it wasn't an isolated case. Everyone does it on both sides everywhere it is allowed. Complaining about a bipartisian issue being unfair to one side is narrow minded bigotry.
It's not a fucking horseshoe you moron, it's something all sides of politics engage in and neither side will put a stop to it because they each think they can outplay the other. So in essence it's just another thing you losers lost at.
I never claimed a side, you did. Why are republitards like yourself so butt-blasted when anyone asks a question that dares goes against your orthodoxy?
I'm not Republican, I'm not American, I'm not claiming a side. You're the one that started ranting about Rebublican gerrymandering like a loser so sorry for assuming you were one just because you sounded exactly like one. How exactly am I butt-blasted for stating an obvious truth?
Well, as long as one Democrat has ever gerrymandered at any point, the situation where a democrat's voice is 1/3 of a republican's voice is okay and democratic.
Yeah it was poorly worded, I know you can't gerrymander the senate. I just meant that you shouldn't take winning the house/senate as a sign of a mandate. They lost seats in the senate, and the house will be a GOP majority for some time to come because of the blatant gerrymandering they performed with REDMAP after the 2010 midterms.
Ok, but doesn't the fact that the GOP has the Senate mean that even without gerrymandering, they would most likely have gotten a majority in the house?
You could say that Trump won due to white supremacy but you'd be wrong. In all likelihood the total number of committed white supremacists in America is somewhere in the low five figures. Unless they all just happen to reside in swing states it's highly unlikely they had any sort of significant effect on the results of this or any presidential election.
If any one thing is to blame for Trump's win it would probably be the Comey letter.
Lose an election against all expectations because you suppressed opposing opinions
No, because the left has become weak and DOESN'T suppress opposing opinions enough. All this "every opinion is equal and deserves to be in the public conversation =)" garbage
It's already done. Every sub is either full of far left college students shitting blood over the fact that they lost or full of trolls trolling trolls. Those are the two options.
You know why TD doesn't brigade as much these days?
It's because they have been banned from linking to absolutely anywhere on reddit. No other subreddit has. no other subreddit has ever brigaded nearly as much.
What makes you think they are banned? Perhaps they just set automod to remove those posts to counter accusations of brigading, I don't know and apparently neither do you.
Meh, I didn't come by it through any study or whatever. To me I think Muhammad Ali is pretty clearly the most famous American Muslim, and if not him probably Malcolm X. Either way my comment is still true. Can you think of a non-black American Muslim more famous than either of them?
I see a whole lot of subs using 'brigaded' flairs without any real evidence or proof, it's basically just a buzzword for the echo chamber being disrupted.
Lmao this is too good. These people care way too much about reddit and seem to live in some alternative timeline where hitler himself has become president and the world is on a brink of war.
All i know is that its gonna be a fun 4 years, shadilay.
I don't know. I like what's going on in the US. Not from a "I like all the new laws." . I like that the system is getting a shakedown. Presidential powers are getting exposed. That a lot of people didn't think we're there. Also the courts get to have their challenge and say. The legislative side is also under pressure. Media too. Now people are active and weighing in. It's good the ceo of reddit and the unions have their say.
This for the first time in a long time is a true test of the USA and it's people. A true test of the Democratic ideal. Also of liberalism and language.
I think it's pretty good because now all the left won't be sitting on their hands nd making excuses when the President does shitty stuff (like Obama's drone program or the bombing campaigns he started or his cowardice in trying to get a true public healthcare system).
There's this youtuber that points out that it was Obama that layed down the groundwork for Trump's immigration order.
It's funny that people are crying about r/worldnews being a cesspool of hatred, when I look at it, there's a shit ton of articles on Donald Trump and how he pissed off a bunch of foreign countries, how mean he is, or how we'll start a war. It went from having a slight right slant to a slight left slant, but I bet both parties would complain anyway because for the right: the mods are shit and arbitrarily enforce rules, and for the left: people that agree with Trump or don't like muslims can still post.
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n/a SnapshillBot 2017-01-30
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n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-01-30
https://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/5r43td/an_open_letter_to_the_reddit_community/dd49rar/?context=3
Drama's resident liberal mod gets called out lol
n/a zahlman 2017-01-30
I'd ask "what part of 'repeal and replace' don't you understand?", but, well, the answer is obvious.
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-01-30
As well, "replacing" a broken-ass healthcare law with something "better" is not a conservative idea AT ALL. In fact, if you didn't tell me who said it, I would have said it was Bernie
But oh no big orange evil man said it so FUCK EVERYONE YALL ARE ALL NAZIS
n/a zahlman 2017-01-30
The ACA was not a step in the direction of single-payer. Trump's replacement almost certainly won't be, either. I probably won't consider myself adequately informed, 4 years from now, to decide if it's actually an improvement.
n/a glmox 2017-01-30
nah man, byzantine, thousand-page laws that no one actually reads are the only possible way to legislate health care in first-world countries. otherwise it's dirty socialism just like the ussr
n/a he3-1 2017-01-30
How is ACA broken?
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-01-30
A lot of people had to increase premiums for healthcare they already had. It's actually a large problem
n/a he3-1 2017-01-30
Some people. Premium growth every year since 2009 has been very low, ACA certainly didn't cause this to occur but other then a bump in 2010 when policy requirements were increased its had a fairly small impact on premium growth. Absurd state increases that have occurred were not sustained (EG states had unusually low growth and then had a single year catch-up), were mostly caused by the initial stupid focus on co-op's and nationally were offset by rates falling. Factoring in the tax credit individual rates actually fell both this year and last year.
There are certainly things in ACA that could be improved (and also many things that were nonsense from the start, aforementioned co-ops as an example) but when people claim its failing I don't understand by which metric they are talking about. More people have access to healthcare, private expenditure is effectively flat and Medicaid/Medicare/state innovation waivers are probably the most significant improvement to healthcare in many decades.
Even the GOP plans for "repeal & replace" essentially keep most of ACA in place with the exception of the mandates and HCPT tax. All of the GOP proposals are less aggressive then ACA on transferring funds & responsibility of public healthcare delivery to the states (all the plans lack Medicare block grants, something ACA was going to be starting next year, given early results of Medicaid waiver programs something that would reduce public healthcare spending). At this point I can't see why much of the opposition exists beyond simple partisanship or misunderstandings of what ACA actually does.
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-01-30
They're talking about their own personal situations. Having your premium jump from $300 to $1200 is baloney
n/a he3-1 2017-01-30
Anecdote is not data, there has not been an increase that large since the exchanges have existed. The largest ever was this year where Phoenix increased by 145% for the benchmark silver plan (due to the loss of two insurers from the market), even then due to the affordability restrictions and tax credit the number of people who felt that increase was very small (anyone who qualified for the tax credit in its entirety in Phoenix had a 0% increase this year).
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-01-30
Yeah I'm not talking about the "benchmark silver plan". I'm talking about the "you can keep your provider" promise that Obama boondoggled a bunch of middle Americans on
n/a zahlman 2017-01-30
It's the most common reason I get from people when I ask why they personally don't like it. They're all referring to themselves, and at least carry on as if they have the receipts to prove it.
n/a Mort_DeRire 2017-01-30
You sure they aren't referring to "people they've heard about" as opposed to themselves? People have a tendency of lapping up rhetoric.
n/a Letterbocks 2017-01-30
Holy fuck anecdote is not data applies when looking for correlations in data not when reading your insurance premiums.
n/a Clark_Savage_Jr 2017-01-30
Some of that reported increase is from transitioning from an existing plan that will no longer be offered to a new plan.
n/a Eternal_Mr_Bones 2017-01-30
Trump has insisted he wants to keep prexisting conditions and the good parts of Obamacare. Ofc this is either:
Forgotten when the media wants to call him out for repealing it
Pounded home when the media wants to call him out for being "liberal"
n/a zahlman 2017-01-30
...which media is that?
n/a Eternal_Mr_Bones 2017-01-30
Pre election
n/a im-a-koala 2017-01-30
To be fair, keeping the "good parts" of Obamacare, while getting rid of the requirement to purchase it, is going to be disastrous. I assume the Republicans won't do exactly that, because it frankly makes no sense. People would only buy insurance if they have health problems, which means most policies would pay out, which would force premiums up way higher than they are now.
Not that I care that much either way, I get health insurance through work, but it seems like it's going to be bad news for those who don't.
n/a Eternal_Mr_Bones 2017-01-30
Yes, this was his promise, I'll be interested to see what they propose to try and make people not lose coverage. Hopefully he'll avoid people "dying in the streets" as he often claimed.
n/a lifesbrink 2017-01-30
That requirement to buy it has me lose my tax return every year, for not having health insurance
n/a serialflamingo 2017-01-30
I don't see how any of those are mutually exclusive.
You can freak out at something even if you expected it to happen, in fact, it was the things that Trump was promising to do (and so far has delivered on that made people panic about the prospect of a Trump victory.
n/a zahlman 2017-01-30
Expecting things to happen (which is inherent in laughing at others for not doing so) and then seeing them actually happen, is mutually exclusive with a perception of "unpredictability", because you literally just predicted something.
Getting smug that your political opponents supposedly "didn't expect" it is incompatible with belief in the badness of the promises, because you have to reason that they don't see the promised things as bad - otherwise, they wouldn't be your political opponents.
n/a serialflamingo 2017-01-30
Following through on a few of his promises in the space of a few days doesn't make him reliably predictable. He's proven time and time again to be unpredictable, again, this is one of the traits that his retarded supporters thought was so fabby about him during his campaign.
I think the reason people think their political opponents were "bad" is because they conveniently chose to ignore any of the retarded or downright malicious promises Trump made because it was politically convenient for them. If you're choosing to ignore the evidence that your candidate is making shitty promises because MAGA or whatever, you're an idiot. And honestly, there's a certain level of idiocy that's indistinguishable from malice.
n/a zahlman 2017-01-30
What things did he do that were not expected, and why wouldn't they have been expected?
n/a serialflamingo 2017-01-30
Off the top of my head I'd say hosting a panel with a bunch of women involved in an alleged historical sex crime a few hours before a presidential debate was pretty unpredictable.
n/a zahlman 2017-01-30
Except for, you know, the part where it was a direct response to an accusation he was dealing with, and alluded to in his "apology" statement.
n/a serialflamingo 2017-01-30
You're right, that's totally the way someone in the highest office in the world deals with that sort of thing!
n/a zahlman 2017-01-30
I neither claimed such, nor was it what you were disputing. A strawman/goalpost-shift combo, strong play. But you haven't fully accounted for my dedication to seriousposting in the designated shitposting threads.
n/a serialflamingo 2017-01-30
Ahh, your agendaposting is post-ironic? Cool!
n/a zahlman 2017-01-30
2meta4u
n/a serialflamingo 2017-01-30
It's not very meta. Loads of people pretend "I was just kidding" when they have nothing else to say/
n/a the_popcorn_pisser 2017-01-30
I've been saying this for days now. He said repeal and replace. People voted for that.
These people are soooo weird. They shit on people who voted and still support trump. They are shitting on people who are openly saying they regret their vote for Trump. They shit on people who went third party.
Literally, the only way to win with these idiots is by having voted for Hillary.
n/a wwyzzerdd 2017-01-30
Too bad they aren't old enough to vote.
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-01-30
Old enough to have a child tho apparently.
n/a wwyzzerdd 2017-01-30
So like 12?
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-01-30
At most
n/a bytewake 2017-01-30
that was fairly entertaining
/u/hahapointsatyou pls mod me I'd like to express my deep regret and repent for my sins
n/a HAHApointsatyou 2017-01-30
lol whoosh
n/a DuckHuntHotDog 2017-01-30
That's the best comment chain I've read in a while
n/a Yung_Don 2017-01-30
Sort by controversial for maximum drama.
n/a Vinod_Paswan 2017-01-30
About half of the comments in that thread are controversial.
It's beautiful.
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
The top comment didn't change. Odd.
n/a E_G_Never 2017-01-30
When does reddit not scream about censorship?
n/a Ikinhaszkarmakplx2 2017-01-30
Fuck is a normie?
n/a headasplodes 2017-01-30
You.
n/a thajugganuat 2017-01-30
Someone that is capable of and does get laid.
n/a ThadeusSurge 2017-01-30
Get the fuck out of here!
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-01-30
Lose an election against all expectations because you suppressed opposing opinions
Implement further cencorship in the vain hope that it'll help, while allowing political opponents to call for violence on your site
Inadvertently fuel support for far right movements among people that would otherwise not be susceptible to them
Lose again
Keep losing until the New Freikorps puts a bullet between your eyes
Jesus Christ, they haven't learned a thing, have they? It's going to be a fucking rough decade ahead of us.
n/a FTFallen 2017-01-30
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n/a The_Reason_Trump_Won 2017-01-30
Thx bby
n/a miraclebelly 2017-01-30
Lol people really believe this? I know u/the_reason_trump_won likes to circlejerk in this sub, but Trump won by a razor-thin margin due to a lot of a factors. You could just as easily say that Trump won because of white supremacy (guess who would've won if all the loud and proud racists stayed home on November 8?). In Michigan, where Trump won by a few thousand votes, more than 80K people left the top of the ballot empty.
So please, continue to act like smug liberals on the Internet cost Hillary the election, but it's really not true.
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n/a MakeAmericaSageAgain 2017-01-30
America elected a mong orangutan, although that speaks volumes about the American people in itself I think the biggest take-away here is that Shitlery Killton came out looking like the worse candidate... Facing a mong orangutan.
We're all here in the eastern hemisphere laughing our asses off.
n/a DistortedLines 2017-01-30
Wtf i hate Trump now
n/a FishLoveCats 2017-01-30
Dont laugh too hard or the smog might damage your lungs.
n/a MakeAmericaSageAgain 2017-01-30
I live in Sweden. The only respiratory problems I have to deal with is Muhammeds stringy cum getting stuck in my throat when I go down on my wife.
n/a FishLoveCats 2017-01-30
Sweden is considered a western country m8
n/a MakeAmericaSageAgain 2017-01-30
m8, We're in r/drama. Don't make me have to educate you
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Hemisphere
n/a Time_to_Drink 2017-01-30
Eastern hemisphere is best hemisphere
n/a SpectroSpecter 2017-01-30
为人民服务!
n/a thirdegree 2017-01-30
I'm so sorry.
n/a Pretentious_Nazi 2017-01-30
This is what retards actually believe.
n/a MakeAmericaSageAgain 2017-01-30
What do the geniuses believe?
n/a Pretentious_Nazi 2017-01-30
The opposite of that.
n/a MakeAmericaSageAgain 2017-01-30
So Trump came out looking worse to people, but was still elected?
Nah, that sounds actually retarded.
n/a Pretentious_Nazi 2017-01-30
He lost the popular vote, so yes, he did come out looking worse to a majority of people.
And my point was more along the lines of "anyone who thinks Hillary came out looking worse is a moron."
n/a Mort_DeRire 2017-01-30
Sorry dude but the impending trade wars are going to fuck with you too.
n/a Allanon_2020 2017-01-30
That is like the 0-16 Lions beating the 07 Patriots by a point. Yeh one point but it should have never even got to that.
Doesn't that seem indicative of a problem? Also turned two States red that haven't been since the 80's.
There seems to be some revisionist history how it was always a close race and that the Republicans handed him the Primary on a silver platter.
So yeh close race if all context is remove, but when added it should not have been a close race let alone him winning
n/a SWIMsfriend 2017-01-30
its more like the NY Giants winning aganist the 07 patriots.
The patriots won more games and got more points throughout the season and postseason.
but the NY Giants won the game that counted
n/a throwaway11272016 2017-01-30
07 Giants are also a dope trill fucking team! Eli and Strahan nigga you don't even know
n/a SWIMsfriend 2017-01-30
But they were not the point leaders that season and had more losses than the Patriots that season
n/a throwaway11272016 2017-01-30
But they won you relentless faggot. Big Blue for life nigga
n/a SWIMsfriend 2017-01-30
Exactly, just like how trump won the election.
n/a throwaway11272016 2017-01-30
Trump and the Giants are both winners son!
n/a freet0 2017-01-30
Yeah I somehow don't think the working class whites in the midwest flipped to Trump because of retarded internet progressives. As much as I enjoy watching those people squirm now, they probably aren't even known to most Trump voters.
Miiight have had more to do with all of their jobs disappearing and their communities descending into poverty and drug addiction.
n/a The_Reason_Trump_Won 2017-01-30
This unironically . The holier than thou bullshit didn't hurt tho
n/a freet0 2017-01-30
I'm sure it didn't help to see Clinton going after internet frog memes while calling 1/4 of the country deplorable.
n/a caffienatedjedi 2017-01-30
Don't you know Nazi frogs are more important than the dying industries and heroin epidemic of the rust belt?
n/a MasterLawlzReborn 2017-01-30
Do you think there will be exhibits on these memes in the Trump library and/or other museums related to this election?
I'm being 100% serious, because they really became prominent and they might have actually influenced the election.
n/a Imgur_Lurker 2017-01-30
http://i.imgur.com/DQih3XJ.jpg
n/a MasterLawlzReborn 2017-01-30
lord have mercy, reality is truly stranger than fiction
n/a he3-1 2017-01-30
Exit polling didn't show much in the way of demographics change from the last couple of cycles, people just didn't come out to vote for Clinton.
Turnout fell for both parties from 2012 and 2008, it fell a great deal more for D then R (Trump won with fewer votes then both Romney & McCain lost with). This could be Clinton having the public appeal of a rotting corpse or the media constantly claiming she had basically already won or a combination of both, whatever it was Trump won because people didn't come out to vote not because of tacit support.
n/a HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-01-30
This is the best summation in this thread.
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-30
/u/he3-1 is a regular contributor to /r/badeconomics, without a doubt the most politically neutral of all the "badof" subs, and actually knows what the fuck he's talking about.
not shitposting, he's a person to listen to.
n/a NAZI_LARPER_ALTKIKE 2017-01-30
Very well said. I do wonder how demographic changes will affect elections in the future.
n/a TheLongerCon 2017-01-30
What are you talking about? Trump received around 2 million more votes than Romney
n/a zahlman 2017-01-30
Not because working class whites in the midwest went on the internet, ran into retarded internet progressives and got their feelings hurt, no.
But because retarded internet progressives managed to propagate mind viruses within the DNC that ultimately convinced them (and HRC) that she didn't have to avoid leaving behind soundbites like "we're going to put a lot of coal miners out of business", didn't have to visit Wisconsin, etc.? Maybe.
n/a thefran 2017-01-30
Do you unironically think that Russia is Communist or what? How's 1980?
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-30
Putin isn't communist, he's just Making Russia Great Again by doing all the same stuff his bosses did when he was KGB
n/a zahlman 2017-01-30
No, I'm just pointing out that pro-Russia and anti-Russia narratives aren't terribly consistent, and there are a lot of ways for various folks in the US to infer hypocrisy.
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-30
don't worry. no matter what the narrative is /u/prince_kropotkin will always hang from Russia's nuts
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-01-30
putin and gamergate are hitler
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-30
Snowden is still a traitor by the way
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-01-30
your mom is a traitor
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-30
Are you voting for Trump again in 2020?
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-01-30
I'm voting for Hitler, because Trump is Hitler.
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-30
Real talk: do you still think Snowden is a hero?
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-01-30
Realer talk: Is Gamergate worse than Hitler?
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-30
Real-est talk: send dick pics to /r/drama mods to prove you aren't Hitler
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-01-30
Oh shit, maybe you're Hitler too!
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-30
nice deflection. Even your boy Putin does shirtless pics all the time
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-01-30
Do you think a shirtless Hitler would be sexy?
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-30
Does Snowden have a six-pack?
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-01-30
I'd like a six pack of good beer right now.
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-30
that's a shame since anarchists can't make anything good
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-01-30
I brew really good beer. But I think you have to be 21 to go to a brewery store, so you're out of luck there.
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-30
Too bad you don't have any friends, in real life or reddit, who can confirm this
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-01-30
the funniest thing about /r/drama by far is how nobody will ever believe that anyone else there has friends or a life because they're going off their own experience
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-30
No one will ever believe you have friends because you're an anarchist who's happy that Trump won, not because you post on /r/drama
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-01-30
Trump is Hitler, though. The only thing that would have been worse was if Gamergate won!
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-30
Gamergate did win though, just like Sanders
n/a OldOrder 2017-01-30
Will you two just fuck already and get it over with
n/a throwaway11272016 2017-01-30
Your mom goes to college
n/a SpectroSpecter 2017-01-30
Every working class white person I know voted the way they did because they felt like the left had abandoned them. They didn't all vote for trump (though most did), but even the most hipstery, "vaccines cause autism" leftist I know didn't vote for her.
n/a MasterLawlzReborn 2017-01-30
> vaccines cause autism
> leftist
I feel that is contradictory
n/a Imgur_Lurker 2017-01-30
Lane County is home of the College
http://www.oregonlive.com/kiddo/index.ssf/2008/08/post_2.html
http://www.ashlandchild.org/vaccine-info/ashland-stats/
%30 of people in Oregon self identify as religious so people are pretending to not get vaccines.
n/a SpectroSpecter 2017-01-30
That's because you're living in the past, man. The left is terrified of technology now. The right apparently got the OK from the pope or whatever.
n/a gigantic_meaty_balls 2017-01-30
Trump is a fucking horrible candidate. He still won surprising everyone. What is your reason for his victory?
n/a toclosetotheedge 2017-01-30
Dems thought they had it in the bag,didn't like Hillary and therefore didn't turn out like they should've. Republicans held their noses and voted
n/a The_Reason_Trump_Won 2017-01-30
n/a zahlman 2017-01-30
in after u/the_reason_trump_won replies with a blank comment
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
n/a miraclebelly 2017-01-30
I stand by my words. Trump barely won, and just to really piss you off, Comey's late announcement easily could have made the difference. Point is that Trump doesn't have a mandate.
inb4 "then why did the Republicans take the house and senate too?" Because of heavy gerrymandering. In Wisconsin and several other states Republicans have supermajorities in state legislatures despite getting 40% of the vote. In the House the GOP can expect a solid 15-20 seat lead even when the Dems get a majority of the vote.
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
Nice projection. Why would I be pissed off that Trump is a winner and you are a loser? Nice gerrymandering excuse when everybody does it.
n/a thefran 2017-01-30
You don't know anything about the recent gerrymandering project, right?
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
I do know about pathetic excuses losers make.
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-30
Just saying North Carolina had to re-draw its districts because the state was found guilty of gerrymandering, with the republican controlled state-senate actively creating districts that disenfranchised minorities. It's extremely doubtful that it was an isolated case but oh well
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
Of course it wasn't an isolated case. Everyone does it on both sides everywhere it is allowed. Complaining about a bipartisian issue being unfair to one side is narrow minded bigotry.
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-30
Muh Horseshoe
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
It's not a fucking horseshoe you moron, it's something all sides of politics engage in and neither side will put a stop to it because they each think they can outplay the other. So in essence it's just another thing you losers lost at.
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-30
Just so we're clear: Are you taking the moral high-ground when you're bragging that your side cheats better?
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
Both sides cheat. Cheating is not moral. Your immoral sons of bitches are just worse at it than the other immoral sons of bitches.
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-30
I never claimed a side, you did. Why are republitards like yourself so butt-blasted when anyone asks a question that dares goes against your orthodoxy?
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
I'm not Republican, I'm not American, I'm not claiming a side. You're the one that started ranting about Rebublican gerrymandering like a loser so sorry for assuming you were one just because you sounded exactly like one. How exactly am I butt-blasted for stating an obvious truth?
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-30
so you don't know anything about anything and are proud of it?
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
Why do you assume I know nothing about it just because I'm a foreigner? Are you a redneck?
n/a WithoutAComma 2017-01-30
It may have more to do with your combo of factless arguments and basic bitch comebacks.
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
Meh, probably. Still, I managed to stir a little shit so it's not a total loss.
n/a MG87 2017-01-30
Then fuck off.
n/a thefran 2017-01-30
Both "sides" "can" deny global warming, but only Republicans actually do it.
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
Keep telling yourself that.
n/a Mort_DeRire 2017-01-30
Muh retarded gloating despite having voted for trade wars that will raise costs unilaterally
Boy, great victory for you.
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
Who says I voted? Anyway, about time America had some inflation.
n/a thefran 2017-01-30
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
n/a thefran 2017-01-30
Well, as long as one Democrat has ever gerrymandered at any point, the situation where a democrat's voice is 1/3 of a republican's voice is okay and democratic.
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
Yes, if all players agree to the rules I don't see how it is not democratic.
n/a thefran 2017-01-30
Subversion of democracy is not democratic. Democratic elected tyrants don't rule democratically.
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
I suppose you ramble like this every time Democrats redraw a district too?
n/a thefran 2017-01-30
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
But what about the exact same thing is not whataboutism.
n/a thefran 2017-01-30
None of "the exact same thing".
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
Republicans are better at playing the game that both sides agree to. How is that subverting anything?
n/a MG87 2017-01-30
Its not about winning or losing you fucking dullard.
n/a throwaway11272016 2017-01-30
I do but I'm ok with it bc my side is doing it
n/a MG87 2017-01-30
Trump won and we all lost as a result.
n/a SWIMsfriend 2017-01-30
i love when people say this because it shows they don't know WTF they are talking about
n/a miraclebelly 2017-01-30
Yeah it was poorly worded, I know you can't gerrymander the senate. I just meant that you shouldn't take winning the house/senate as a sign of a mandate. They lost seats in the senate, and the house will be a GOP majority for some time to come because of the blatant gerrymandering they performed with REDMAP after the 2010 midterms.
n/a SWIMsfriend 2017-01-30
Ok, but doesn't the fact that the GOP has the Senate mean that even without gerrymandering, they would most likely have gotten a majority in the house?
n/a foodlibrary 2017-01-30
You could say that Trump won due to white supremacy but you'd be wrong. In all likelihood the total number of committed white supremacists in America is somewhere in the low five figures. Unless they all just happen to reside in swing states it's highly unlikely they had any sort of significant effect on the results of this or any presidential election.
If any one thing is to blame for Trump's win it would probably be the Comey letter.
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-01-30
I was actually referring to Media bias in favor of Clinton, although Reddit was also doing it.
The fact that Clinton ignored rural voters did cost her heavily, though.
n/a MG87 2017-01-30
Facts>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memez
n/a PrinterRepairSpec 2017-01-30
No, because the left has become weak and DOESN'T suppress opposing opinions enough. All this "every opinion is equal and deserves to be in the public conversation =)" garbage
n/a SpectroSpecter 2017-01-30
What is this, 2005? The left now behaves like the right and vice versa.
n/a Ace4929 2017-01-30
I will never forgive the progressives for feeding the alt-right
n/a FTFallen 2017-01-30
We joked, but Trump's election may seriously tear this website apart.
Should be good times.
n/a bytewake 2017-01-30
it will be fun to watch at least
n/a LadyVetinari 2017-01-30
It's already fucking boring though
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-30
this is what libcucks actually believe
n/a SpectroSpecter 2017-01-30
It's already done. Every sub is either full of far left college students shitting blood over the fact that they lost or full of trolls trolling trolls. Those are the two options.
n/a skivian 2017-01-30
Who doesn't love a good train wreck.
n/a PM_ME_HAIRLESS_CATS 2017-01-30
That won't be the first thing he tears apart. 🎉
n/a Eternal_Mr_Bones 2017-01-30
I think "what about /r/the_donald" has supplanted the place of the "what about /r/SRS" meme.
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
The difference being SRS actually brigaded.
n/a fraustnaut 2017-01-30
Well maymayed friendo
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
How is it a meme? Literally all they do is link to reddit unlike TD. You can pretend nobody follows those links if you like.
n/a fraustnaut 2017-01-30
>2017
>Still mad about ~300 leg beards whinging about reddit being shit.
I knew this sub was autistic. But, jeez dude, you don't have to be such a spastic.
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
I didn't bring them up, just pointed out the obvious. I'm sorry facts upset you.
n/a Chavril 2017-01-30
The Autist's Guide to Calling Out Autists as Autistically as Possible
n/a thefran 2017-01-30
You know why TD doesn't brigade as much these days?
It's because they have been banned from linking to absolutely anywhere on reddit. No other subreddit has. no other subreddit has ever brigaded nearly as much.
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
I know why, because it never did.
You know this how exactly?
n/a thefran 2017-01-30
We were always at war with Eastasia.
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
Show me.
n/a thefran 2017-01-30
Try linking to a post in another subreddit or r/the_donald.
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
Well that's convinced me. Your $100% proof of the donald brigading is irrefutable.
n/a thefran 2017-01-30
Glad you stopped denying the fact that the_donald is banned from brigading now because they brigaded then.
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
Your unsourced opinion is indeed factworthy.
n/a thefran 2017-01-30
Offer an explanation to why the_donald is banned from brigading.
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
What makes you think they are banned? Perhaps they just set automod to remove those posts to counter accusations of brigading, I don't know and apparently neither do you.
n/a thefran 2017-01-30
No, the admins banned them.
n/a the_popcorn_pisser 2017-01-30
Hurr hurr we are living in 1984 amirite??
n/a thefran 2017-01-30
Hey, I'm not the one denying facts.
n/a MG87 2017-01-30
Oh bullshit.
n/a MG87 2017-01-30
Uhhh yes they did
n/a MG87 2017-01-30
n/a Pistachiothenut 2017-01-30
mayocide cannot happen soon enough
n/a nanonan 2017-01-30
If PoC weren't so lazy it might actually happen at all.
n/a Pistachiothenut 2017-01-30
tru
n/a dis_is_my_account 2017-01-30
AHA! Finally have a chance to plug my sub. I honestly forgot about it tbh. /r/WhatAboutTD
n/a 80BAIT08 2017-01-30
Tendies are flying over people thinking this is an opportunity to petition banning things they don't like.
n/a Vinod_Paswan 2017-01-30
One of the highest upvoted posts in r/blackladies :
https://www.reddit.com/r/blackladies/comments/5byycq/good_job_white_people/
Well, looks like we'll have to ban r/blackladies too.
n/a Eternal_Mr_Bones 2017-01-30
How does a Muslim ban affect the posters at /r/blackladies? We may never know for sure.
n/a serialflamingo 2017-01-30
Because there are a lot of black Muslims.
n/a zwiebelhans 2017-01-30
While I'm not sure how you came by a clear "most famous" American muslim, I'll certainly grant you Islam is far more common among blacks then whites.
n/a serialflamingo 2017-01-30
Meh, I didn't come by it through any study or whatever. To me I think Muhammad Ali is pretty clearly the most famous American Muslim, and if not him probably Malcolm X. Either way my comment is still true. Can you think of a non-black American Muslim more famous than either of them?
n/a zwiebelhans 2017-01-30
Obama.
n/a El-Tigre-Braum 2017-01-30
Obama since he's African-American not Black.
n/a serialflamingo 2017-01-30
girl, he black.
n/a El-Tigre-Braum 2017-01-30
He's not black, he was raised by an Indonesian man and a white women.
He's African American because of his heritage but he doesn't come from American Black Culture.
Have you even read Obama's Book?
n/a serialflamingo 2017-01-30
Girl LMAO
n/a Joe_Bruin 2017-01-30
>Muhammid Ali and Malcolm X more famous than MLK Jr.
Nice education you have there. Which one of these three has a literal national holiday again?
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-01-30
aren't both those guys Nation of Islam?
n/a Clark_Savage_Jr 2017-01-30
What's NoI status among other groups of Muslims?
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-01-30
I think it varies from group to group but I do know there's a subset of muslims that reject NoI
n/a serialflamingo 2017-01-30
I thought Ali was Sunni?
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-01-30
He was originally NoI but NoI split at some point towards more traditional Sunni beliefs and Ali was part of the people who moved towards it
So we were both correct, yaay!
n/a ICallWooWooOnU 2017-01-30
Neither were really Muslim though. Nation of Islam is to Islam what Jehovah's witnesses are to christianity
n/a nicethingyoucanthave 2017-01-30
And he turned out to be a great president, so why don't you just fuck off you Nazi!
On a related note, what are we going to call people after we neuter (through overuse) the shock effect of calling them a nazi?
n/a cabforpitt 2017-01-30
Well Somalia was one of the countries on the list...
n/a ninjaofpatience 2017-01-30
The fact that /u/irbytremor quit the sight when trump won, makes the coming apocalypse seem just slightly brighter.
n/a yyiaz 2017-01-30
Changed account you mean. people so obsessed don't quit to make a statement.
n/a ninjaofpatience 2017-01-30
What's the new account?
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-01-30
/u/The_Reason_Trump_Won
n/a HeavyFriends1970 2017-01-30
He's not nearly autistic enough to be an Irby alt.
n/a The_Reason_Trump_Won 2017-01-30
Ayyyyyyyy
#killwhitey
n/a AllocatedData 2017-01-30
I see a whole lot of subs using 'brigaded' flairs without any real evidence or proof, it's basically just a buzzword for the echo chamber being disrupted.
n/a seoulsun 2017-01-30
https://i.imgur.com/AMIav51.jpg
n/a zahlman 2017-01-30
What was the original blacked-out text?
n/a seoulsun 2017-01-30
I am going to be the next President
n/a DistortedLines 2017-01-30
Lmao this is too good. These people care way too much about reddit and seem to live in some alternative timeline where hitler himself has become president and the world is on a brink of war.
All i know is that its gonna be a fun 4 years, shadilay.
n/a thefran 2017-01-30
I dunno, a guy who keeps asking why he can't just nuke people sounds like a warmonger to me.
n/a DistortedLines 2017-01-30
Oy vey, its truly like anuda shoah. Good goy
n/a zwiebelhans 2017-01-30
I don't know. I like what's going on in the US. Not from a "I like all the new laws." . I like that the system is getting a shakedown. Presidential powers are getting exposed. That a lot of people didn't think we're there. Also the courts get to have their challenge and say. The legislative side is also under pressure. Media too. Now people are active and weighing in. It's good the ceo of reddit and the unions have their say.
This for the first time in a long time is a true test of the USA and it's people. A true test of the Democratic ideal. Also of liberalism and language.
It's so fascinating and brilliant drama to boot.
n/a butterflyandthebee 2017-01-30
I think it's pretty good because now all the left won't be sitting on their hands nd making excuses when the President does shitty stuff (like Obama's drone program or the bombing campaigns he started or his cowardice in trying to get a true public healthcare system).
There's this youtuber that points out that it was Obama that layed down the groundwork for Trump's immigration order.
n/a sandernista_4_TRUMP 2017-01-30
It's interesting seeing a lot of Lockean-style liberals suddenly supporting punching people in the street
n/a zwiebelhans 2017-01-30
Yeah, unrest bring violence. It's certainly a challenge to liberal ideals and "morals"
n/a ghostchamber 2017-01-30
That's silly, since you can just not read those subs. I don't.
n/a LadyVetinari 2017-01-30
because you're a pussy
n/a ghostchamber 2017-01-30
I checked with my mom, and she said you're right. Damn. :(
n/a TheSmugAnimeGirl 2017-01-30
It's funny that people are crying about r/worldnews being a cesspool of hatred, when I look at it, there's a shit ton of articles on Donald Trump and how he pissed off a bunch of foreign countries, how mean he is, or how we'll start a war. It went from having a slight right slant to a slight left slant, but I bet both parties would complain anyway because for the right: the mods are shit and arbitrarily enforce rules, and for the left: people that agree with Trump or don't like muslims can still post.