To be fair, he has been in several movies, produced a record or two, and he was on several TV shows. He might not be the most talented or best known, but according to any popular definition today he is an artist. Oh, and he "Cannon is now the chairman of TeenNick for Nickelodeon and the development and creative consultant of the network since 2009" according to wikipedia.
I'll take the socratic bait. This is subjective and imprecise and I don't expect you to agree, but to me an artist is a creator with a certain (high) level of skill and craftsmanship, not necessarily with a mastery of the field but with a great degree of competence in it earned through diligent hard work. Just because someone acts I wouldn't call them an artist, just because someone performs I wouldn't call them an artist, just because someone writes I wouldn't call them an artist, just because someone designs I wouldn't call them an artist, just because someone composes I wouldn't call them an artist, etc.
A Kathy Griffin is not on the same plane as a Toni Servillo, a Brando, a Christian Bale, so on.
Inb4 pretentious cunt & /r/gatekeeping... that's not wrong, I don't care. In any case this is a completely worthless argument to pursue.
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n/a -jean-paul- 2017-02-13
>hosts AMRICA'S GOT """"TALENT""""
>calls himself an artist
What a pretentious cunt
n/a SuchSpookySkeltal 2017-02-13
To be fair, he has been in several movies, produced a record or two, and he was on several TV shows. He might not be the most talented or best known, but according to any popular definition today he is an artist. Oh, and he "Cannon is now the chairman of TeenNick for Nickelodeon and the development and creative consultant of the network since 2009" according to wikipedia.
n/a -jean-paul- 2017-02-13
Disagree. There's a dumb tendency out there to conflate being an artist with being a performer and/or a content creator. They're not equivalent.
If anyone who performs or creates anything is an artist the word has no meaning.
n/a SuchSpookySkeltal 2017-02-13
Well, what's the definition of an artist then?
n/a -jean-paul- 2017-02-13
I'll take the socratic bait. This is subjective and imprecise and I don't expect you to agree, but to me an artist is a creator with a certain (high) level of skill and craftsmanship, not necessarily with a mastery of the field but with a great degree of competence in it earned through diligent hard work. Just because someone acts I wouldn't call them an artist, just because someone performs I wouldn't call them an artist, just because someone writes I wouldn't call them an artist, just because someone designs I wouldn't call them an artist, just because someone composes I wouldn't call them an artist, etc.
A Kathy Griffin is not on the same plane as a Toni Servillo, a Brando, a Christian Bale, so on.
Inb4 pretentious cunt & /r/gatekeeping... that's not wrong, I don't care. In any case this is a completely worthless argument to pursue.
n/a SuchSpookySkeltal 2017-02-13
That's fair, I really wasn't trying to argue so much as pick your brain.
n/a -jean-paul- 2017-02-13
I know they use it that way now, but it's cheap and too easy.
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-02-13
We talking about your mom or what "artist" means?
n/a -jean-paul- 2017-02-13
Why not BOTH!
n/a OnlyRacistOnReddit 2017-02-13
And he was married to Mariah Carrey
n/a SuchSpookySkeltal 2017-02-13
no he was married to Mariah Carey
n/a OnlyRacistOnReddit 2017-02-13
You mean he cheated on Mariah Carrey?
n/a jubbergun 2017-02-13
Just because you got some Ritz at home don't mean you don't like some saltines or cheez-its every now and again.
n/a telandrias 2017-02-13
Fuck you, drumline was terrible.
n/a pepperouchau 2017-02-13
The fuck did you just say about the star of Drumline
n/a -jean-paul- 2017-02-13
You're right, I take it all back. How could you not call this man - the man behind If I Was Your Man - an artist? For the uneducated:
Etc.
n/a pepperouchau 2017-02-13
That's it, you'll be the first against the wall in the mayocide
n/a fourcrew 2017-02-13
AMERICA'S GOT (((TALENT)))
n/a -jean-paul- 2017-02-13
(((Howard Stern)))
...oh wait
n/a Millherlite 2017-02-13
He must have pissed off the pedo jew hollywood cabal. Classic stuff.
n/a Velvet_Llama 2017-02-13
They're gonna get him hooked on coke?
n/a SuchSpookySkeltal 2017-02-13
Well hopefully the alimony he gets (or at least should) from Mariah Carey ought to cover any lost income there
n/a SmurfPrivilege 2017-02-13
Oooh, I just read that SRD thread about Emma Watson drawings. They've got some opinions on 'jokes.'
n/a AnindoorcatBot 2017-02-13
well..tbf he is a comedian, or at least has stage time.
His downfall was working his main employer (NBC/AGT) into an edgy bit. Should've known not to rock that boat!
n/a bfbj 2017-02-13
I don't watch AGT, but was it any different than all the anti-NBC bits in 30 Rock? That show was merciless to NBC
n/a AnindoorcatBot 2017-02-13
Hell I don't watch that shit either
n/a Muffikins 2017-02-13
It's also a love song to NBC too, it's obvious there's more fondness than negatively for it
n/a Velvet_Llama 2017-02-13
This went from being worth a chuckle to absolutely hilarious when I realized he was talking about hosting 'America's Got Talent.'
n/a theherps 2017-02-13
Who the fuck is Nick cannon?
n/a chanilastname 2017-02-13
Daddy Nick Cannon is hilarious!
n/a wwyzzerdd 2017-02-13
Go tell your mama I was cursing in the house!
n/a chanilastname 2017-02-13
Fuck Nick Cannon!
n/a chanilastname 2017-02-13
Honestly AGT is a sinking ship, he should just get a reality show or something.
n/a zahlman 2017-02-13
Cannon gets fired
n/a Dookiestain_LaFlair 2017-02-13
I was hoping he would get shoah'd as soon as he revealed the truth about the black population extermination group known as Planned Parenthood.
n/a pitaenigma 2017-02-13
Is no one gonna fucking say what the joke is?
n/a jubbergun 2017-02-13
Isn't it obvious? NBC is the joke. So is Nick Cannon's "career." So is America's Got Talent. This whole thing is just a chain of cheap gags.
n/a AnindoorcatBot 2017-02-13
http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/10/nick-cannon-agt-nbc-black-card-joke/
n/a pitaenigma 2017-02-13
That is the single most tame race joke I have ever heard.