My screen name is that of a child who plays a video game. Even if you didn't know I posted on /r/drama, you could guess most women could beat me within an inch of my life.
Fuckin "mamm" is the one that gets me. I had to talk to a lot of southern women at work and not saying mamm to anyone above the age of like 20 was rude. Now saying it here is apparently insulting like I'm calling em "granny" or something. Zz
its kind of weird to just refer to women as "females", especially when you don't refer to men as "males"
But that apparently only works one way. Nobody bats an eye if you use "males and women" in the same sentence.
When I first saw an SJWs complaining about the juxtaposition of "men and females" (like you just did), I decided to make a point to use the opposite wording ("males and women") as often as possible, just to see if anyone would ever react to it the way you, and others, react to the perceived slight of "men and females." I didn't save them all, so I'm having to search to find them now, but here are some examples:
Nobody has ever, in all the time I've been doing this, called me out on it. It only ever bothers people when women are referred to as "female" and as /u/Allanon_2020, they get angry no matter what they're called. More importantly, neither you /u/SpoopySkeleman nor anyone else can actually articulate what that is. You feel something, but you cannot explain it. Your attempts to explain it fail because when the wording is reversed (as I showed above), it doesn't garner the same response.
But I'm very charitable, so I'll go ahead and explain it to you - I'll tell you why you're feeling what you're feeling. It's called "automatic in-group bias." It's an instinct (that's why you experience it as a feeling) to protect women. You're hypersensitive to anyone so much as pointing a finger at a woman. It's burned into your DNA for you to react this way. And when you complain about someone using the word "female" you're no different than moth flying toward a bright light - you're just following that instinct. You don't have a rational reason for your feeling, even though you can invent a rationalization post-hoc. You're just blindly following your instincts.
Most languages don't, and it's never been a problem. Referring to people like you're narrating a nature documentary seems far weirder than, god forbid, having to use two different words.
Well that's kinda the point. For a huge chunk of normal, non-SRD people, it's just a thing. It's not typical but it's not very weird, either.
It's like getting upset about someone calling "soda" "pop". It might be kinda weird but to freak out over it because of social justice is a uniquely retarded POV.
Military-industrial usage isn't a cultural dialect, it's technical jargon, same with medical/ scientific. In a technical field, female is proper.
Culturally speaking, it's true that it's common vernacular among some black people. It's a also in common usage among neckbeards which is pretty obvious that's the usage we're referring to with comic book characters as "females". It's cringy because neckbeards generally don't understand or have experience with women as a significant other. Usage of the term reduces them to some technical classification. It's pretty obvious to me why it's offensive in some contexts.
jar·gon1
ˈjärɡən/
noun
special words or expressions that are used by a particular profession or group and are difficult for others to understand.
Whether or not you'd like to call it a 'cultural dialect', 'jargon' is a much more specific definition of profession related terminology. Its also totally beside the point. I know people from all those professions who speak of females all day, it's just that when they get home and speak conversationally they call them women like normal people do. The reason neckbeards refer to women as "females" has nothing to do with technical language bleeding into common language.
Is this a joke? I know plenty of military 'folk' who don't refer to women as 'females.' The fact that anyone here is pretending that female is standard military terminology is ridiculous. It's not. Military guys and girls, of which I know and have known so many, don't mindlessly call women 'females' like you think.
Hahaha yeah I do. I'm 37 and multiple family members and friends. They don't call anyone 'females'. Do you know any one in the militaty,, fellow redditor?
I was only in for 12 years, you fucking moron. Female and male isn't used very often, but it's not bizarre to hear either, as multiple people have pointed out repeatedly.
Cool for you. I still know literally dozens of people in the military including active members. It's technical language therefore 'jargon'. I didn't make up the word 'jargon' neither is it official 'cultural dialect'. There's appropriate times to call a woman a 'female' in technical matters.
No calls their wife a 'female'. No one call a significant other a 'female'. I don't give a shit how long you've done anything. If you have a wife she isn't your 'female'. You are wrong about everything you're talking about.
No calls their wife a 'female'. No one call a significant other a 'female'. I don't give a shit how long you've done anything. If you have a wife she isn't your 'female'. You are wrong about everything you're talking about.
I'd argue that you only notice the use of the word when it's particularly awkward. It's like someone who exclusively uses medical terminology to refer to sexual things. A normal person using the word "scrotum" instead on "ballsack" sometimes isn't weird at all, but an autistic permavirgin speaking like an anatomy textbook all the time raises eyebrows.
The correct word for man (as in male) is wereman. When you say man it is really short for human. Funny the feminists never picked up this up. I guess they wanted to only focus on things more ridiculous.
Women everywhere should feel blessed that /u/SpoopySkeleman is here to protect them from being referred to by words rather than just a tip of the ol' fedora.
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n/a itsaboyffxiv 2017-02-19
Full disclosure: as someone who also spent most of his twenties as not a pussy, female and male don't trigger me, either.
n/a SmurfPrivilege 2017-02-19
There's an implication here that you've since grown into a pussy.
n/a itsaboyffxiv 2017-02-19
My screen name is that of a child who plays a video game. Even if you didn't know I posted on /r/drama, you could guess most women could beat me within an inch of my life.
n/a LSU_Coonass 2017-02-19
Me too thanks
n/a itsaboyffxiv 2017-02-19
I didn't know you existed outside of college football season.
n/a LSU_Coonass 2017-02-19
I pretty much just hibernate those 8 months of the year
n/a ReBurnInator 2017-02-19
This is possible.
n/a strathmeyer 2017-02-19
Since you dislike pussy are you homo or asexual?
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n/a Mircabre 2017-02-19
It just sounds weird when referring to people in any other sense than medical or anything classifying
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-02-19
it's because of the star track thing, right?
That's what I always thought
n/a glmox 2017-02-19
spoken like a true female
n/a PresidentCruz2024 2017-02-19
Well what word should I use to refer to girls and women of all ages?
n/a good_nuff_for_a_poke 2017-02-19
"The help"
n/a Mircabre 2017-02-19
Chicks
n/a bytewake 2017-02-19
m'ladies
n/a Re_LE_Vant_UN 2017-02-19
Bitches.
n/a some-other 2017-02-19
It's a linguistic microaggression.
n/a filo4000 2017-02-19
it is because female is an adjective and people use it as a noun
n/a students4trumpMI 2017-02-19
SRD is such shit that my only other resort for dramatic happenings is this autismo haven of degenerates.
n/a glmox 2017-02-19
sad!
n/a GimmeDatPusiB0ss 2017-02-19
It kindof is, gives off a neckbeards vibe when used in a non-scientific environment. "The feeeeeeeeeemales are rejecting me!What do?!"
n/a Allanon_2020 2017-02-19
They bitch about anything you call them
Woman: "What am I old?"
Girls: "You patronizing me?"
Gals: "Misogny!!!"
n/a The_Reason_Trump_Won 2017-02-19
Fuckin "mamm" is the one that gets me. I had to talk to a lot of southern women at work and not saying mamm to anyone above the age of like 20 was rude. Now saying it here is apparently insulting like I'm calling em "granny" or something. Zz
n/a AntiLuke 2017-02-19
It's ma'am btw.
n/a The_Reason_Trump_Won 2017-02-19
Thanks, knew that looked weird
n/a Going_up_the_Country 2017-02-19
Did you think it was short for mammary?
n/a ThatOtherPromise 2017-02-19
That is why I just go with broads and chicks
n/a Wacnews_the_White 2017-02-19
Tomato is a good old school one.
Tomato. Yeah. That's the stuff.
n/a CirqueDuFuder 2017-02-19
They are most angry about not being called at all.
n/a nicethingyoucanthave 2017-02-19
Bingo.
/u/SpoopySkeleman
But that apparently only works one way. Nobody bats an eye if you use "males and women" in the same sentence.
When I first saw an SJWs complaining about the juxtaposition of "men and females" (like you just did), I decided to make a point to use the opposite wording ("males and women") as often as possible, just to see if anyone would ever react to it the way you, and others, react to the perceived slight of "men and females." I didn't save them all, so I'm having to search to find them now, but here are some examples:
"a male's dating blog, vs. a woman's dating blog"
"most 20 year old males aren't attractive to the average 20 year old woman"
"the median male is stronger than the strongest woman"
Nobody has ever, in all the time I've been doing this, called me out on it. It only ever bothers people when women are referred to as "female" and as /u/Allanon_2020, they get angry no matter what they're called. More importantly, neither you /u/SpoopySkeleman nor anyone else can actually articulate what that is. You feel something, but you cannot explain it. Your attempts to explain it fail because when the wording is reversed (as I showed above), it doesn't garner the same response.
But I'm very charitable, so I'll go ahead and explain it to you - I'll tell you why you're feeling what you're feeling. It's called "automatic in-group bias." It's an instinct (that's why you experience it as a feeling) to protect women. You're hypersensitive to anyone so much as pointing a finger at a woman. It's burned into your DNA for you to react this way. And when you complain about someone using the word "female" you're no different than moth flying toward a bright light - you're just following that instinct. You don't have a rational reason for your feeling, even though you can invent a rationalization post-hoc. You're just blindly following your instincts.
n/a Card-nal 2017-02-19
This is beautiful.
n/a OniTan 2017-02-19
You mean... white knighting?
n/a Dial_A_Dragon 2017-02-19
Productive autism.
n/a thefloyd 2017-02-19
Do you know any black people?
n/a 444455555666666 2017-02-19
how is it never brought up in these threads how much black people like to say "females"
n/a CirqueDuFuder 2017-02-19
Because those people are down voted and then banned for trolling.
n/a ExtreemWeenie 2017-02-19
and they all look like different variations of schoolboy q. where did this shit come from
n/a thefran 2017-02-19
When we wuz was a fad on Facebook, lots of black men kinda tried to pretend to be ancient Egyptians.
n/a grungebot5000 2017-02-19
I had a professor who talked like that
I think it was supposed to be a star trek reference?
n/a ssjkriccolo 2017-02-19
Ferengi are known for saying females a lot since they see them as possessions, at least in TNG and earlier DS9. Pathetic hu-man.
n/a grungebot5000 2017-02-19
i mean i know what it would be a reference to, just didn't know if he was doing a ferengi voice on purpose because he kinda sounded like one anyway
n/a Ylajali_2002 2017-02-19
Yeah it's kind of autistic in the sense of being coldly rational.
Not surprised at the amount of rabid ableism on SRD.
n/a goh13 2017-02-19
Spoken like a true white male
n/a PresidentCruz2024 2017-02-19
Then we need another word that covers girls and women of all ages.
n/a JewWithGardenBeans 2017-02-19
Most languages don't, and it's never been a problem. Referring to people like you're narrating a nature documentary seems far weirder than, god forbid, having to use two different words.
n/a PresidentCruz2024 2017-02-19
Spanish makes it pretty easy. So does Japanese.
n/a JewWithGardenBeans 2017-02-19
True. English, German, and French certainly don't though - their words that would fit best are really only ever used when referrring to animals.
n/a oriaxxx 2017-02-19
lol that thread is classic srd i love the sub but damn
n/a HINDBRAIN 2017-02-19
creepy and gross :(
n/a Re_LE_Vant_UN 2017-02-19
Creepy, gross, problematic.
n/a CamilleHammond001 2017-02-19
Nobody want it.
n/a chanilastname 2017-02-19
I find it annoying. Id rather be called a bitch tbh.
n/a OniTan 2017-02-19
Shut up, whore.
n/a chanilastname 2017-02-19
Kys.
n/a OniTan 2017-02-19
Reported for hate speech.
n/a chanilastname 2017-02-19
Like anyone cares about your feelings.
n/a OniTan 2017-02-19
Is that what guys say after they fuck you and give you 20 dollars?
n/a chanilastname 2017-02-19
Oh please I charge more than that
n/a ____________13 2017-02-19
Obviously, the only correct way to refer to women is by using their numerical rating.
n/a grungebot5000 2017-02-19
it's weird as a noun
n/a baaaaby 2017-02-19
theyve got a point tho. when someone uses female as a noun over an adjective its almost always cringy
n/a itsaboyffxiv 2017-02-19
Well that's kinda the point. For a huge chunk of normal, non-SRD people, it's just a thing. It's not typical but it's not very weird, either.
It's like getting upset about someone calling "soda" "pop". It might be kinda weird but to freak out over it because of social justice is a uniquely retarded POV.
n/a baaaaby 2017-02-19
pop makes me upset because michigan is a trash state
what region is it a normal to call women females? doesnt really seem equivalent
n/a toiracse 2017-02-19
Besides, it's "soft drink".
n/a SithisTheDreadFather 2017-02-19
Normal people just call them all "coke".
n/a theboozehelps 2017-02-19
n/a itsaboyffxiv 2017-02-19
It's not regional, it's cultural: black and in military-industrial circles.
n/a rdogg4 2017-02-19
Military-industrial usage isn't a cultural dialect, it's technical jargon, same with medical/ scientific. In a technical field, female is proper.
Culturally speaking, it's true that it's common vernacular among some black people. It's a also in common usage among neckbeards which is pretty obvious that's the usage we're referring to with comic book characters as "females". It's cringy because neckbeards generally don't understand or have experience with women as a significant other. Usage of the term reduces them to some technical classification. It's pretty obvious to me why it's offensive in some contexts.
n/a Card-nal 2017-02-19
I assure you, it is. There's lots of things that are cultural in various communities.
n/a rdogg4 2017-02-19
Whether or not you'd like to call it a 'cultural dialect', 'jargon' is a much more specific definition of profession related terminology. Its also totally beside the point. I know people from all those professions who speak of females all day, it's just that when they get home and speak conversationally they call them women like normal people do. The reason neckbeards refer to women as "females" has nothing to do with technical language bleeding into common language.
n/a Card-nal 2017-02-19
Yeah "female" isn't a special word nor is it difficult for others to understand. So no, not jargon.
Kinda obviously.
n/a itsaboyffxiv 2017-02-19
Yes, it is cultural. There's lots of words that military folk use in conversation.
n/a rdogg4 2017-02-19
Is this a joke? I know plenty of military 'folk' who don't refer to women as 'females.' The fact that anyone here is pretending that female is standard military terminology is ridiculous. It's not. Military guys and girls, of which I know and have known so many, don't mindlessly call women 'females' like you think.
n/a itsaboyffxiv 2017-02-19
Oh, you know someone in the military? Nevermind then.
n/a rdogg4 2017-02-19
Hahaha yeah I do. I'm 37 and multiple family members and friends. They don't call anyone 'females'. Do you know any one in the militaty,, fellow redditor?
n/a itsaboyffxiv 2017-02-19
I was only in for 12 years, you fucking moron. Female and male isn't used very often, but it's not bizarre to hear either, as multiple people have pointed out repeatedly.
It's not "jargon".
n/a rdogg4 2017-02-19
Cool for you. I still know literally dozens of people in the military including active members. It's technical language therefore 'jargon'. I didn't make up the word 'jargon' neither is it official 'cultural dialect'. There's appropriate times to call a woman a 'female' in technical matters.
No calls their wife a 'female'. No one call a significant other a 'female'. I don't give a shit how long you've done anything. If you have a wife she isn't your 'female'. You are wrong about everything you're talking about.
n/a itsaboyffxiv 2017-02-19
There's nothing "technical" about it.
Thanks, moron.
n/a FreeIceCreen 2017-02-19
I'd argue that you only notice the use of the word when it's particularly awkward. It's like someone who exclusively uses medical terminology to refer to sexual things. A normal person using the word "scrotum" instead on "ballsack" sometimes isn't weird at all, but an autistic permavirgin speaking like an anatomy textbook all the time raises eyebrows.
n/a baaaaby 2017-02-19
i think thats fair
n/a NGC_6960 2017-02-19
more like reeeeemales am I right
n/a strathmeyer 2017-02-19
The correct word for man (as in male) is wereman. When you say man it is really short for human. Funny the feminists never picked up this up. I guess they wanted to only focus on things more ridiculous.
n/a BannaHamHock 2017-02-19
Anyone who obsesses this much over this type of thing is a fucking retard
n/a goh13 2017-02-19
The only sane guy here.
n/a ExtreemWeenie 2017-02-19
good job on your sanity bro keep it up
n/a Chavril 2017-02-19
Women everywhere should feel blessed that /u/SpoopySkeleman is here to protect them from being referred to by words rather than just a tip of the ol' fedora.
n/a FuckURedditor 2017-02-19
Oh look, the people here agreeing with SRD. That used to be odd.
n/a serialflamingo 2017-02-19
Calm down, dear.
n/a OniTan 2017-02-19
The infection is spreading.
n/a 80BAIT08 2017-02-19
They'll find literally anything to be offended by.
n/a serialflamingo 2017-02-19
/u/stellar-duck You don't get to hit people for saying females, you weirdo.
n/a OniTan 2017-02-19
/u/ognits you're a cunt.
n/a ognits 2017-02-19
ok
n/a ExtreemWeenie 2017-02-19
i thought it was just a black thing. either way it needs to die
n/a REDDIT_IN_MOTION 2017-02-19
Female is kinda harsh
I prefer the more PC term, cum dumpster