"Why do people hate Gypsies?" doesn't go well in /r/ireland

103  2017-03-03 by Ultrashitpost

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No wonder you have an army of pretentious neckbeard losers following you around

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I have no idea how Ireland handles groups of angry drunks.

The Irish really ruined Ireland

Drunken people are only annoying, if they're too drunk relative to you. In Ireland everyone just keeps on drinking, so the problem has solved itself.

What are travellers?

It's a fancy term for gypsies.

but they seem to be specific to ireland no?

Like are they the romani people from romania or are they like separate?

but they seem to be specific to ireland no?

They're all over Britain. "Travelers" is just a PC term.

No, the "PC" term for Gypsies is "Roma" or "Romani." Travelers are a lifestyle, and Gypsies tend to hate Travelers.

Romani are a particular set of travellers from that certain ethnic background. There are pikeys of all different ethnicities.

No, "Roma" and "Romani" are an ethnicity. Gypsies are the thieves and scammers.

We're talking about native Irish gippos here.

Like are they the romani people from romania or are they like separate?

Gypsies are NOT from Romania.

Keep telling yourself that while trying not to get your wallet stolen by one of them gayboy

Well there are lots of them in Romania and Bulgaria

Because they migrated there. That doesn't make them a group of people from Romanians that are theequivalent of Romanians.

But don't tell that. Pretend that romani and Romanian is interchangeable it really pisses of those assholes.

Nah, they're originally from the Indian subcontinent.

You know you're filth when not even the Indians want you.

Traveller's are a small ethnic group in Ireland which have a culture of moving place to place in caravans and rejecting integration with settler communities. They're usually uneducated, poor (unless involved with crime) and live in caravan parks, which when you degrade them for being a "scourge on society" kind of perpetrates the inherent problem with their mentality towards settled society in the first place.

Traveller's are a small ethnic group in Ireland

I'm actually curious about this, are Travelers ethnically different to other Irish people?

Yup, people say it has to do with them breeding within their own communities but I'm not quite sure about the semantics of it all. I think the idea is that the average Irish person is ethnically made up of a few different ethnicities due to breeding with English people whereas Traveller's with them being outside of regular society are usually more prone to breeding amongst themselves.

Traveller's also have their own language called Shelta too.

Yes, they're more closely related to rodents than the locals are.

No written records, but there's theories that they descend from Romani or pre-celtic people. Most would be genetically very similar to the settled community.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Travellers

They're like the difference between a horse and a piebald.

Traveller's aren't like Roma gypsies

They steal, are violent, will use their own children as beggars, and take pride in being uneducated and basically the worst people in existence. They are exactly like the gypsies in Romania.

And in Slovakia, Hungary and Bulgaria...

live in caravan parks

Appear overnight on someone else's property and when finally they move on, leave behind mountains of rubbish, burnt out cars and destroyed caravan shells.

FTFYY

Appear overnight on someone else's property and when finally they move on, leave behind mountains of rubbish, burnt out cars and destroyed caravan shells.

Appear overnight on land that has been cleared for a development and then basically black mail the land owner into paying them to move on.

There's only one solution tbh fam.

There are actually bands of travelers in the United States as well. I believe they are descended from the travelers in Ireland.

travellers is a generic term for people who live in vehicles. gypsies is a specific ethnic group of people whove lived like that for hundreds of years.

There are also "new age travellers" who are basically hippies. They often live on the same sites. I knew a girl who lived in a truck on a site also populated with irish travellers, who'd probably be called gypsies, although I don't know if they call themselves that.

She had some hair-raising stories. Apparently she took to carrying her axe (that she used to chop firewood) with her to the toilet because the irish lads considered an unaccompanied woman as essentially "up for grabs." Apparently they also laughed at her and the other anarchists for bothering to bury their shit.

She lives in a house now.

lol, some of the people I've known over the years are so '''''degenerate''''' that they'd make the average internet shut-ins head spin.

Gypsies and travelers are different. Gypsies are an ethnic group (you don't choose to be a Gypsy), Travelers are a lifestyle.

A loathsome lifestyle

That's true.

No it's not. Gypsies are Roma, travellers are specific to the British Isles (or whatever they are called).

For a second I thought people were hating on tourists or something

Brad Pitt in Snatch, minus looking like Brad Pitt.

never watched that one sorry

Fun movie, check it out

Pikeys

Euroniggers

Peeky Blinders

I'm confused as to how the rankles over at /r/shitliberalssay got triggered by this.

What? Where?

here

One big advantage of living in your basement and listening to RATM while you shitpost on reddit is never running into Gypsies, I guess

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You know how we can tell that you guys have never met a gypsy?

Or, ya know, maybe we aren't a bunch of racist swines.

The shit you're saying is fucking identical to what 1960s Americans said about blacks.

And yes, I've met a few Romanis. They were good people.

If you meet an asshole one day, you met an asshole. If everyone you meet is an asshole, you're probably the asshole.

And yes, I've met a few Romanis. They were good people.

Maybe compared to subhuman commie filth, but they're still humanoid rats.

If you meet an asshole one day, you met an asshole. If everyone you meet is an asshole, you're probably the asshole.

If you meet an asshole gypsy one day, you met an asshole. If you every gypsy you meet is an asshole, then gypsies are probably assholes.

Racists are the only subhumans.

No, gyppos are.

NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER!

wow so edgy!

Nigger kike faggot!

same here

Not true. Also communists, movie stars, journalists and the French.

Excellent statement of classism.

TIL being racist is a class

Don't play coy, by calling racists "subhuman" you're already making it clear you consider them a separate class of person who it's acceptable to dehumanize.

Racism is most common among the economically disadvantaged and lower-IQ. Anti-racism is the ideology of the bourgeoisie and the drivers who want to join them. If you're calling racists "subhumans" you're spitting on a large contingent of the working class in a way that soothes and comforts the well-educated social elites you strive to emulate and/or are one of already.

Racism is most common among the economically disadvantaged and lower-IQ.

Uh, no, racism is most concentrated amongst the rich. The rich then use their power and influence to coerce the proletariat into fighting amongst themselves over race, thereby using the proletarian class ass their own personal army. Divide and conquer.

Anti-racism is the ideology of the bourgeoisie and the drivers who want to join them.

Right, because clearly the leaders of the abolitionist movement, the civil rights movement, the anti-apartheid movement, etc., were bourgeois. /s

If you're calling racists "subhumans" you're spitting on a large contingent of the working class

See first paragraph.

...in a way that soothes and comforts the well-educated social elites you strive to emulate and/or are one of already.

It's not "soothing" shit. Racism is disgusting and one of the strongest forces of oppression. It must be decimated.

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Racism is most common among the economically disadvantaged and lower-IQ. Anti-racism is the ideology of the bourgeoisie and the drivers who want to join them

So now we can't even insult racists without someone getting offended?

#Racistlivesmatter

Aren't you arab though

Yeah

I just like to be inflammatory

More like inflammable huehuehue

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>I've met a few Romanis. They were good people.

>"I've met twelve of them. TWELVE OF THEM, I tell you."

You accused me of not having met any Romanis, to which I was correcting the record.

no they accused you of not haveing meet gypsies.

it's pretty fucking racist of you to claim all romanis are gypsies.

it's pretty fucking racist of you to claim all romanis are gypsies.

All Romanis are Gypsies. Not all Romanis/Gypsies live the "traveling lifestyle" though, if that's what you mean.

Lol, how can this get upvotes? Gypsie is an exonym used to describe Romanis. (''Romani" not a word used to describe a Romanian)

no they were some of the good ones

And yes, I've met a few Romanis. They were good people.

Romanis are not Irish Travellers

They became a new race by living in trailers

What country do you live in?

lmao travellers are as white as it gets

Irish

White

WE WUZ ALIENS N SHIT

Or, ya know, maybe we aren't a bunch of racist swines.

The shit you're saying is fucking identical to what 1960s Americans said about blacks.

And yes, I've met a few Romanis. They were good people.

If you meet an asshole one day, you met an asshole. If everyone you meet is an asshole, you're probably the asshole.

I've gone to school with travellers. Met many a few as well.

What are you getting at?

What has employment got to do with a group that doesn't conventionally associate with settled communities?

Seven out of ten Travellers (69%) were educated to Primary level at most, including 507 persons aged between 15 and 19. The number of Irish Travellers who completed third level in 2011 was 115 or one per cent. This compares with 30.7 per cent of the general population excluding Irish Travellers.

It looks like the Traveller you 'went to school with' was very much an exception.

Gotta find new marks somewhere...

doesn't conventionally associate with settled communities

Fancy way to describe shit-tier bandits

Well if said basement dweller lived in Europe, he might have had a run-in with Gypsies, as my first such experience with them was when they robbed our basement.

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As is tradition

"Unemployed obnoxious stupid thieves? That sounds like us!"

Travellers/Gypsies are basically communist/nu-anarchists since they live in their own little communities and only interact with outside communities in a negative manner.

not sure thats stricly how ideologies work mate.

Shhhhhhhh, I'm just trying to stir the pot.

well consider me all stirred up sweetcheeks

You put the sharpie up your ass didn't you?

what do you use them for?

I eat them.

It's ironic because during Commie times in Eastern Europe, the government would force Gypsies to work or be imprisoned.

THAT'S NOT REAL COMMUNISM!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

> You can't be racist towards white people! > Ugh, look at all this racism against Irish travelers!

I don't understand.

Simple, they aren't white. They are all of street shitter ancestry.

I think my Dad works with the same twelve

This guy solved it.

"Ugh America how can you be so bigoted and hateful!?"

"Travelers are sub human and the whole ethnicity is trash!"

Pot meet Kettle.

Even non americans can see that Gypsies are scum

All the Americans beliefs about no-go zones and violent areas are basically true with traveler/gypsy camps.

Anywhere within a 2 mile radius of their nests are blighted too.

There are almost 2 million gypsies, all assimilated, in the United states. The Difference between Europe and the US is simple, the US has a culture strong enough to assimilate anyone, even a nomadic group like the Roma.

It's bit different in the europe. Like some countries integrate their romani but then there are some just let them roam in their countries without doing anything.

Like Swedish native romani is hard to find but we got Finnish and Balkan Romani here right now. Also to be noted historical swedish kings went integrate or die.

i think his point is is that if your food was better and your women better looking you wouldnt have so much trouble integrating them

No, the difference is all Americans are gypsies who just parked up on the original owners land and got aggressive when anybody tried to move them.

They are not talking about 'Roma gypsies' but Irish travellers, they are completely different.

The "Roma" are not that different, at least here in the balkans.

No, it's because the US has guns and concealed carry. Some gypo tries to fuck with you, you shoot him. He tries to camp in your land, you bring out the rifles and drive him out. And the police actually has the mandate to maintain order, unlike in Europe.

I don't think most Americans have much of a concept of them, as we don't have that problem over here. I've been to mainland Europe, but I don't think I have ever met one.

All non-Americans are basically gypsies to us.

It's pretty crazy how hated gypsies are in Europe and online. Worst thing is that most Roma are normal people living normal life, like anybody else and have to face tons of hate just because there are gypsies who are Lumpen.

If they aren't gypsy traveller scum then people aren't talking about them.

It's like trying to say that people who hate gangbangers hate all black people

I mean, there are people who hate all Roma Gypsies, even the ones not living the traditional lifestyle.

most Roma are normal people living a normal life

No, they really aren't. I know your only experience is with American blacks, and they're nothing alike.

lol

I'm from Germany and Roma is an ethnicity, not a way of life

I bet there would be more trains running to Poland if that were the case.

What percentage of Roma would you say are assimilated to mainstream European culture?

Literally no one likes gypsies

Can confirm, have never heard anyone say anything positive about gypsies as a group.

They seemed alright in the full metal alchemist movie.

Handy if you need to get rid of some scrap. Otherwise a waste of oxygen.

They pulled the "Hey can I talk to you about cleaning your roof while my friend sneaks in another door and robs you" on my grandmother after my grandfather died.

Gypsies are scum, and the law is far too lenient on them.

I wondered why there are no gypsies in Australia, now I realise bogans need to be recognised as an ethnic identity.

Except white Americans who have never dealt with them.

Seriously, it took me like two days in Europe to learn that gypsies fucking suck.

Same reason they hate micks, mate.

Every time there's a discussion about gypsies, I like to play "Spot the American that's never been to Europe". It's surprisingly fun and easy.

Because it aggravates me every fucking time: Roma are a aryan group from Freaking india, not Romania, the word for someone from Romania is Romanian. The Roma speak indo-aryan languages, Romanian is a Romance language similar to Italian.

Do you know why everyone in Europe is so fixated with the Jews being the victims of the Holocaust and not the Romani? Because to a person the people I've met in Europe feel Hitler did the world a service by exterminating the Romani.

Two reasons:

  1. Romani do not have any redeeming qualities.

  2. Romani do not have power over the media and academics.

So Romani are just retarded Jews?

yes

Because to a person the people I've met in Europe feel Hitler did the world a service by exterminating the Romani

Except he didn't.

He didn't exterminate the Jews either. Or the mentally infirm or genetically damaged. But he did give it the old college try.

At least he succeeded in killing Hitler.

He really went all out

Hitler did one thing wrong - failing at this.

I'll be honest, I have a lot of experience with gypsies and all of it is bad to very bad.

Fucking leftist pukes and their kafka trap bullshit.

"Hey guys, can I ask you honestly about what you think about this thing?"

"Wow, what did you say that thing that was asked of you, that is really uncalled for and frankly this language and discussion that I called for is disturbing, no more talking allowed okay?"

Everything i learned about gypsys comes from watching TLC. They seem like white trash with accents.

No it's more like that biowaste you need special bins to remove.

Oh so like juggalos?

Huh. Kind of. Replace clown make up with adidas tracksuits

Wow, who would have guessed that a group of people whose culture is centered around never staying in one place would act irresponsible?

But they do stay in one place. Usually someone else's property.

A thoughful and insightful commentary penned presumably from the halting site where you are carrying out a long term cultural anthropological study. Please help us break through our internet bubbles, tell us of these mythical creatures known as "travellers". Most of us have only read about them in sacred scrolls and have never met any in real life...

It's like poetry

Living in Ireland, I can tell you that they are just awful people. It is part of their culture to rob from non travellers, they feel entitled to it. It's not like there are some nice ones just moving around trying to get by.

You're pretty brave to have a username like that in Ireland.

Gypsies deserve the rope but if they weren't white people would be rushing to defend them.

Gypsies aren't white.

these ones are

I don't consider Travelers to be Gypsies though, I only consider Roma to be Gypsies.