Gaslighting, mansplaining and objectification, oh my!

76  2017-03-07 by lifesbrink

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/U/herearemyquestions has an over-inflated idea of her attractiveness to men. Women who complain about being objectified are usually fugly, know they are, and complain about being objectified to make themselves feel better.

you didn't ping right

Do it like this: /u/herearemyquestions

I see what you did there 👍

In theory, an extremely attractive women do often have the experience of constantly being ogled. But based on her posting/submission history, this mentality of hers is based more on the fact that she consumes nothing but angry feminist literature 24/7.

Lol tell that to all the men who have paid me for my attention.

The vast majority of men when they glance at you aren't thinking anything about you. Your belief that they must be thinking about having sex with you comes from an assumption that men are sex obsessed pigs who are constantly objectifying the women around them, which is not the case. Most men are just going about their day and trying to get from point A to point B without hassle.

You're right. Blessedly, the majority aren't. But I'm not stupid. When I have to glare at them to get them to look away, I know what they're thinking about.

You should read the feminism that is about not stereotyping but humanizing men and how terrible the patriarchy has been to them.

Any recommendations?

She's taking a while to respond. Chances are she doesn't have any and is googling literature to recommend.

I'm at work and y'all are downvoting me so much I keep getting the "you're doing that too much" when I try to comment

Right...we believe you!

Stripping, both live and Internet

And you don't want to be objectified? You are either trolling or incredibly stupid.

I want to be paid for my time. I'm profiting off of my inevitable objectification.

You need therapy.

You need to stop assuming you know what everyone else's life experiences are.

I don't need to assume anything. I can tell from your posts that you are both very angry (at nothing) and very delusional. People have repeatedly explained to you that eye contact does not mean that people are objectifying you.

My assumption of you is that you are incredibly rude and incredibly stuck up. The fact that you avoid eye contact is proof of this. The fact that you are angry about people telling you that eye contact does not mean objectification is also proof of this.

You're thoughts are incongruent with reality and therefore you need therapy. You also need to calm your tits.

Creepy staring is not just eye contact.

You're reading into it way more than you should, psycho. People don't want to creepily stare at this

I'm not clicking on these damn links.

Ok, I'll describe it. It's a picture of you: a really obese, short-haired brunette presumably at a strip joint. She's not really attractive at all but I'm sure she complains about being objectified all the time because it helps her self-esteem.

You, someone so threatened by a confident woman and who has so little meaning in their life that they have nothing better too but attack women on the Internet.

I'm sorry to say, you armed confident at all. First of all, someone confident doesn't go around proclaiming they're confident. Second of all, someone confident doesn't go around proclaiming they're confident. Third of all, someone confident doesn't go around proclaiming they're confident. Yes I repeated it three times to make sure it sinks into your thick head.

In terms of someone who's life has no meaning, you're a fucking stripped and you're responding to people on /r/drama like your pathetic life depends on it. Pretty sure you're someone who's life has no meaning.

Stripping is a lot of fun. I highly recommend it very empowering.

I am a confident and hot woman! I know I'm awesome! I know I'm hot! People wish they were me! People wish they could fuck me! People wish they were as confident as me! People are threatened when I speak up and use pathetic arguments to try to shut me down! My work day goes by faster when I stand up to the 10 people who want to hit me down when I'm honest about my experience. I am a confident stripper. I love taking people's money. I am confident. I am confident. I am confident.

If that isn't fantasy writing, I don't know what is. But I'll let you live in your fantasy. It doesn't seem to be harmful to others, just yourself.

I am confident.

I am confident.

I am confident.

I am confident.

Shooting down trolls one by one makes me EVEN MORE CONFIDENT

FEEED ME TROLLS

YOUR DOUBT AND SEXIST ATTACKS CONFIRMS EVERYTHING I ALREADY KNOW ABOUT SEXISM AND FUELS MY SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS

FEED ME

I LOVE DOWNVOTES

I LOVE ATTACKS

BEING WITCH HUNTED VALIDATES MY FUCKING WITCH POWERS

I AM CONFIDENT

I AM CONFIDENT

I AM CONFIDENT AND I FUCKING LOVE IT

DRAAAMMMAAAAA

wtf

Oh god, I have to go take care of my adult responsibilities now. This is like being called in to work on Christmas morning!

I'm making fun of you all.

Na, pretty sure it's happening the other direction, cow.

No you all are verbally abusing and harassing me. I'm making hilarious jokes at y'all's expense.

Our jokes are funny, take that back.

No honey. I'm funny.

Okay. I'm just going to need your opinion on something to make sure you are a good person.

WengerOut or not?

I don't know it that is.

Just choose one. WengerIn? or WengerOut?

Yeah no

Fucking mong, what will it take for you to agree with WengerOut?! He is destroying this club! 10-2 on aggregate, how can a top level club be getting destroyed like this? It's time for him to finally bow out and usher in a new age for Arsenal.

Maybe men are absolute dicks who treat you like a sex object because you're an utterly miserable cunt who takes off her clothes professionally and blames everybody else for her problems?

Maybe those same men are fine to dump a quick load of jizz on your tits but when it comes time to find a girlfriend they'd rather be with someone who you can spend an enjoyable, drama-free day going hiking or driving to the beach or whatever instead of getting screamed at by you?

Maybe instead of all men being like this and all women being like that, we're all just individuals, and just because a stripper cunt is writing I AM CONFIDENT YOU HAVE VALIDATED MY FUCKING WITCH POWERS doesn't mean every woman is as legitimately nutty as you are?

Maybe the problem isn't all the horrible things the patriarchy has done to you, but your stubborn refusal to admit even the smallest trace of defeat and openly brag about sexist attacks confirming... oh wait I'm sorry... CONFIRMING EVERYTHING YOU ALREADY KNOW ABOUT SEXISM AND FUELING YOUR SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS?

Probably not though, I'm probably just a bigot.

I'm glad you at least know you're a bigot. So many assumptions about me.

The one assumption I can make with full confidence is that you're a miserable person who blames the world for her problems. As Radiohead once said, you do it to yourself, you do, you and no one else.

You can spend time reading ultra-feminist blogs, whipping yourself up into a rage at how men objectify you, and then not have the common sense to realize that they're objectifying you because you take out your breasts for tips. So you go around miserable, spreading your misery, because you have to stay miserable to make a difference. Yes, the angry emotional stripper is going to be the forefront of solving gender issues in America, so don't let those evil men off the hook for just a second.

What are you gonna do when you're 40? Suddenly become a doctor, lawyer, high-powered business executive? The older stripper at the club with the cigarette breath and smelly puss? The divorcee who says everything was her ex-husband's fault? You'll be a nothing. A "confident" nothing, maybe, but a bitter old hag angry at the world who nobody wants to interact with and guys don't want to fuck anymore.

You may think I'm an asshole and a bigot and a this and a that, I'm honestly just a guy who enjoys mean humor and loves it when the thread target actually shows up to r/drama to defend themselves. Individuals bother me but large sections of groups - white women, young black teenagers, transgender asians - who cares? But when I see an emotional trainwreck who happens to be a stripper, on an individual level I am able to assume that you are in fact a crazy cunt who refuses to see the truth that she's to blame for all the misery she feels deep in her heart.

I was objectified long before I ever stripped. I wasn't born a stripper.

So what? It happens. Other people you will meet will be complete and utter assholes to you, they will disrespect you, objectify you, and whatever else for the rest of your life - you're not fucking alone. You made the choice to become a stripper and you also made the choice to become one of those assholes. Not someone who truly controls the "objectifying male gaze" as you think you are, but someone obsessed by it, angered to the brink of insanity. You control nothing, it controls you.

Continue to be an asshole, continue to read feminist blogs written by other assholes giving you reasons why you need to be an asshole, and then wonder why the world doesn't treat you like a princess. It's your own damn fault for not having the common sense to realize the world is only as horrible as you convince yourself it is.

Why do you think I'm obsessed? I made one comment.

I am confident.

I am confident.

I am confident.

I am confident.

Shooting down trolls one by one makes me EVEN MORE CONFIDENT

FEEED ME TROLLS

YOUR DOUBT AND SEXIST ATTACKS CONFIRMS EVERYTHING I ALREADY KNOW ABOUT SEXISM AND FUELS MY SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS

FEED ME

I LOVE DOWNVOTES

I LOVE ATTACKS

BEING WITCH HUNTED VALIDATES MY FUCKING WITCH POWERS

I AM CONFIDENT

I AM CONFIDENT

I AM CONFIDENT AND I FUCKING LOVE IT

DRAAAMMMAAAAA

You made this comment.

To make fun of the previous comment.

Are you really making fun? Are you telling me that or are you telling yourself that?

You come across as a joyless stripper who despises the fact that men get paid professionally to ogle her naked body. Maybe you're exaggerating for the drama and stringing r/drama along, but I doubt it. You seem supremely miserable to the point of thinking you might be mentally unbalanced, the kind of gal who loves that "if you can't handle me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best" quote and might just have a child or two they're raising without daddy's assistance. But those are assumptions.

You can try to win this "internet debate" with me by saying I have everything wrong and deny deny deny deny deny deny, but the fact is the lost the moment you came to this sub to defend yourself. If my "assumptions" ring true, you don't have to give me validation, but I assure you the key to being happy is to simply be a happier person.

You seem like the type of person who blames them self for everything in order to gain a sense of control.

And then bashes women on the Internet in order to gain a sense of control.

You'd like that, wouldnt ya? If I'm a loser who bashes women on the Internet, then who cares what I have to say?

I assure you that I bash men, women, and any gender in between provided they deserve the bashing. Today I'm dealing with a stubborn self-important stripper who blames "men" for all her problems and thinks the only reason I'm bashing her is because she's a woman.

Is this a "not all men" thing for you?

Stripper and armchair psychologist? Hot.

I mean all strippers basically have to be since men regularly come in just to talk

Well then you should have no problem with a little eye contact, it's part of the confidence thing. E Z problems solved, good job folks.

No I want to be paid

Seems reasonable.

Pic doesn't work famalam.

People don't want to creepily stare at this

Hey now, you don't speak for all of us. She has a lovely smile.

Says the mind reading stripper. This whole thread got started because of you femsplaining what guys think.

This thread is a with hunt of a confident woman.

Anyone with real confidence doesn't have to proclaim it.

Lo lol I bet you sound envious

me_irl

This thread is a witch hunt of a confident woman.

You leave Hillary Clinton out of this.

everyone else's life experiences

Tell me about your dad, if you don't mind.

Post pics?

Ha

I'll pay you

You'll have to find my other account ;)

The fuck is this, give me a clue at least, I ain't going on no wild goose chase for your account.

And get brigaded on my work account? Fuck off

At least you'd be finally drilled properly, you whalecunt.

Mmm whale cunt. You just gave me an idea for my vore erotica

I'll honestly chip in $20. Linking spaghetti to pics is pretty much my drama fetish.

I bet you're the kinda chick who gives a half assed shitty dance and doesn't even let the dude grab your ass

I give amazing dances but I do all the touching. I like the control

If you're in NYC I'll buy a dance and be the judge myself lmk what club

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Friendly and welcoming. Ha! That ship has sailed

Upvoted.

He was being sarcastic

I was being entirely sincere, don't downvote lolcows you cretin.

Too late motherfucker, this lolcow ain't no bitch to be scared of upvotes. We can drill her hard

Damn straight! Say what you want! Vote how you will! You can't shut me up!

If he's being sarcastic, it's creepy as fuck.

Nice and serial killer like. Son of Sam baby

Maybe you just smell bad

Sorry, how the fuck is man thinking you are sexy a problem?

A problem would be if they thought less of you because of that

A problem would be if they respected you less because of that

A problem would be if they called you nasty shit on the street

But looking at you? yeah they are probably thinking that you are hot ( if you really are that I have my doubts )

but so?

Seriously read the SEP page on objectification, you keep using that word thinking that it means treating someone as an object, but it means treating someone only as an object. Those are two different things or you would be objectifying half of the world.

Creepy stares are a fucking problem

What are creepy stares?

Like are they making a jerk off movement while licking their lips or what?

Staring. Look it up in the dictionary if you don't understand the word. "Creepy" is redundant. Basically any stranger staring is automatically creepy

I've met some of my best friends through mutual stranger staring.

Creepy

Like when you deliberately glare at people?

It's self-defense. If you're being a fucking creeper staring you absolutely deserve that and more.

It's self-defense.

It's funny how you can boil down the arguments made by half the people who are summoned here to "it's different when I/we do it."

Glaring at someone who is staring is indeed different from staring.

Glaring is just hateful staring. Not only are you staring, you're supporting and/or engaging in hate when you do it. Why are you supporting hate?

Why are you blaming the victim?

How am I blaming the person you're hate-staring at with my comment?

I only glare at people if they are staring.

How do you know they're staring? What if they're looking blankly off into the distance while deep in thought? What if they're near-sighted and don't know you're in their line-of-sight? I'm detecting a lot of troubling privilege in your responses. You never even ask these people if they identify as blind before you decide they're looking at you! That is seriously problematic.

What are you hoping to get out of this conversation? What is this doing for you?

This isn't about me, I'm just pointing out the troubling ableism inherent in your assumptions about others. It's clear that you're attempting to justify your own compulsion to hate-stare by blaming your victims. You say it's "self-defense," but what you really mean is "they deserve it." This is typical of abusers when speaking about their victims.

Lol this is cute. Trying to troll as an sjw

Oh, so now you have a problem with social justice? White Feminism rears its ugly head again.

Lol you've gotten good at this!

Good? GOOD!?!?!? This kind of subjective moral determination is even worse than your previous displays of privilege!

so many big words! good job!

Phrases like "big words" are only used by people with class privilege who believe that the underclass are incapable of possessing an advanced vocabulary.

Wow, still at it? Good job, sexobject!

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When I have to glare at them to get them to look away, I know what they're thinking about.

No, you don't.

You think I should just let them keep looking? Maybe model for them a bit?

Or do I not know what they're thinking about? Maybe they're just running over their to-do list in their heads?

You are presumably not telepathic. Therefore you do not actually know what they are thinking about.

I'm also experienced enough to make a pretty good guess

*assumptions based on stereotypes formed through selective memory of negative experiences

FTFY

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Yup. It's safer for me to assume a man is dangerous rather than let my guard down. Because being a woman is dangerous in patriarchy.

Being this retarded is dangerous in any society, at any time in human history.

I don't believe that. You have proof on every single society?

Also that doesn't mean that's the way it should be asshole.

Wew lass

As a woman, you're less likely to be harmed than a man. How's that for a patriarchy?

Physically. But I'm more likely to experience sexual violence then men.

Sexual violence is physical violence.

Sometimes. Not always

When is it not?

It depends on how they're being categorized in the statistics! If we look at just sexual violence, women experience it more.

Spoiler: You're a narcissist.

Lol just because I know I'm attractive? How could I not know when men won't let me forget?

A stripper that complains about men looking at her. Honestly you sound very ugly, I've seen ugly strippers perhaps you're just quite ugly and use hate as a coping mechanism?

I got stared at way before I was a stripper and decided to capitalize on something that was going to happen anyway. It's awesome to charge people for my time and attention.

Maybe they're just running over their to-do list in their heads?

Today's To-Do List:

  • Get Milk
  • Pay Water Bill
  • Rape that chick over there
  • Pick up dinner from the Chinese place
  • Floss

Weird, you might both be right.

humanizing men

lol

how terrible the patriarchy has been to them

lolololol I can't breathe help

Go to the poorest areas near you and check out some of the women who get paid for their attention. Then, reassess.

How classist of you. And sex worker phobic.

"I don't want to be objectified! I'm a stripper!" If you don't realize how hypocritically stupid you sound, then you are the poster child for the stereotypical ditz.

Sounds like you don't understand consent.

Nope. I understand that you're just one of those chicks so hell bent on wanting to be objectified that you see it everywhere you go.

No. You're one of those assholes so comfortable in your privilege that you will deny the reality of other people to protect it.

Privilege. Objectification. What other tired feminist meme are you going to throw out there?

Did I trigger you with my big words? Do you need to go to a safe space?

I don't think you know what triggered means. If you look through your responses in this thread as well as the one in /r/sex, you'll see that you're the triggered one. But nice try there, sweetheart. I thought you weren't very bright, that response proved it.

No, you triggered him with your big vagina.

You must be a young

I made no judgement of them, their choices, or their circumstances. I referred to them only to dispute this idea of yours that "Men have paid me for my attentions" translates to "I'm such a hot piece that I short circuit men's brains when I'm around them."

No. I'm such a hot piece that men will pay me for my attention. That's all I was fucking saying

Which is an extremely low qualifier for the title of "hot piece". That's all I'm saying.

It doesn't matter anyway. Almost any young and thin woman will get objectified in public

You're drifting pretty far from your original claim, there.

So let's put this drama train back on its tracks. Your original comment:

Generally a s a young woman, if a man is looking at me, I know he is almost always thinking about sex.

Yup

Because in your mind, the fact that some dude paid you means you're so hot that literally every man who looks in your general direction is thinking about sex.

This is like a trope from the 1980s. I've seen political cartoons that show what's going on in a man's brain versus what's going on in a woman's brain. The man's brain was just filled with images of sex. The woman's brain was filled with images of clothes, purses, jewelry.

Third wave feminists really pushed for the abolishment of these female stereotypes. Men had no such movement to push for a similar goal, so this idea that men only think about sex persists. You're mentality is literally regressive.

I said in general. I never said all men. I LOVE men who can take a glance to orient each of us in space, and then look the fuck away. It's called manners.

if a man is looking staring at me (for an unusually long time), I know suspect he is almost always likely thinking about sex.

You're welcome.

If it makes you feel better!

When a woman comes to /r/Drama, she is almost always thinking about how to pay the victim card.

I was dragged here. I didn't come here. I was pinged.

dragged

Drama deprived you of agency?!

Baited. Brigaded. The usual. Why would I miss out on all the fun?

Baited? Yes, you did come here.

Brigaded? You're at - 8 in /r/sex after posting something stupid and arrogant. Hardly a brigade when a comment like thats gonna be downvoted anyway.

This is true though 😅

"Women always play the victim card" -man who just victimized a woman

You just now:

victimized

You from your comment history:

People who claim there is no point to Internet debates are afraid of the power of discourse. It is always good to stand up to oppression. Thank you for your work winner of wins!!!

FYI: You're not being victimized. We're having a discourse. You seem to be accustomed to winning debates against barely literate 14 year old channers.

Lol this is not a discourse

Is for the sake of clarity and truth, though I understand you might hate those things, sperging out and playing the victim surely feels better!

Hashtag not all men right?

So if im walking through an area with women instead of looking ahead I should just stare at the ground to avoid stare-rape?

Everyone takes in others. Just look away in a timely manner. Be polite and don't stare.

You're a literal whore. No one cares what you want. You're paid to get men off, and shut the fuck up.

You sound jealous.

You sound impoverished.

Me and basically everyone in the US. The government keeps crashing the economy for it's own financial gain so cost of living here is ridiculous. Almost everyone is in debt of some kind.

I have a sneaking suspicion you are not thing.

Oh well

What does that word even fucking mean to you?

Can you stop using it like this?

For fuck sake

Like when a dude looks at me without any regard for how it might effect me. They act entitled to staring and sometimes more. It's rude.

That's because they are entitled to staring. They can look wherever they feel like.

Not without me glaring at them and complaining about it in reddit. Consequences.

how it might affect effect me

You're not a very smart chick, are you?

You got me!

>being a stripper means I'm hot

The fact that they need liquor and shit lighting to hide your c-section scars and stretch marks surely has no effect

So....you're a prostitute?

I'm now dying to see what she looks like. She's evidently one of these intersectional feminists who dabbled in sex work as a form of empowerment, posts in /r/polyamory, etc. She's probably one of the more attractive women in her social circle, but barely turns heads outside of that community. Remember the nintendo employee who got fired for engaging in prostitution on the side? Not bad-looking. But certainly not someone who instantly causes me to think about sex when I pass her by.

I found her picture.. /u/herearemyquestions is definitely not as attractive as she thinks she is.

i disagree pretty hot tbh

...paid you? How so?

Nothing more attractive than a hooker with an axe to grind. And poly too! What are the odds.

Whore.

I can't be insulted by something that isn't an insult. I'm a proud whore

I'll give you $10 to drag my balls through your asscrack

Try $10,000

What would I get for $10 then?

-UncleSamuel

Cock rating

So it's just $10 for you to tell me, I could send one for free and you'd rate it anyway.

-UncleSamuel

I'll pay for photos. Set up the paypal and prepare your anus.

I charge extra for ass shots

I'm actually just looking for a proof of mass.

Your assumptions aren't enough?

I am a river to my people.

I am a river to my people.

Yeah, but unfortunately you're the Ganges.

Did we just find a new /u/jewdank?

It's not about being ogled, it's about the type of women who complain about being ogled. Like you said, she and women like her, consume feminist literature 24/7. Now look at those women, they're not usually the most physically or intellectually attractive women around. Again, it's now about being ogled but about the act of complaining about being ogled.

Hue, /u/Dolphin_Gokkun just copied this verbatim in the other thread. /u/Dolphin_Gokkun is a circlebroker.

What kind of bizarro reality is this?

I have no idea what's going.

But godammit, get the formatting correct, Dolphin_Gokkun! I was quoting the woman.

I wish I was that confident...

Hmm. I'm sorry. I have to disagree with you. I'm a 27 y man. I love sex. But when I have eye contact with a women I'm just interacting with her.

He didn't even blink once.

I personally like it a lot better without eye contact.

People who complain about gaslighting should gaslight themselves.

Those are all just synonyms for not doing what crazy people want

Disagreeing with me = gaslighting because my opinions are objective reality.

She says that one guy isn't representive of all men yet somehow her mental image of all men does.

Don't bring logic into this fam

I bet this will have more comments than upvotes if posted on SRD

hey /u/pretentiousnazi do you get what gaslighting means now or should i keep insulting you?

Insult me daddy

u/herearemyquestions, here are my questions:

  • Why do you hate the idea that men want to have sex with you so much? Do you hate sex, or do you just hate men?

I hate being leered at by men unless they are paying me.

Your ablism breaks my heart

Bigot alert

First correct thing you've posted all day, grats on finally being able to put together a valid thought.

Let's explore that.

Discuss the term"retard" and then discuss "bigot".

Then discuss "obese" and "hysteria".

There's this thing called Google...

We need your voice.

Give me a few hours. Need a full screen for that thesis and I'm on mobile

You got it, fam. We need diverse fat opinions.

You realize they were born that way and can't help it?

Fair point. What's your excuse?

I don't make excuses. I am who I am

An angry stripper.

I'm not surprised strippers don't like men but it makes you wonder why they bother.

I don't like it when men ogle me without paying me. There's a big fucking difference.

I don't like when retarded strippers think they're worth the money they make. Oh well, they usually blow it all on coke & end up poor in the long run.

Y'all are cute if you think you can get photos out of me. Lol

Cow confirmed.

How's that BBW porn treating you? Got a whole collection there?

I will pay you to verify your mass. Let's do this.

Bitcoin?

PayPal. Let's go. Prop up those rolls.

Not anonymous enough sorry

You, me, a camera, a scale, the entire internet, and a crisp new Harriet Tubman. What do you say?

Try 5 Harriet tubman's

Try 5 Harriet tubmans

Yikes.

You need a nice empowering niqab to tide you over until looking at women is outlawed.

Do you have something against the cognitively challenged

Honestly, who doesn't? Would you marry someone with downs? I have a suspicion that the answer is no.

I can object to ablism without marrying a disabled person.

So you wouldn't marry a disabled person?

You're also a stripper with serious daddy issues.

How bad is your cognitive dissonance?

They just want love and respect too?

They don't want anything except ice cream and balloons. Because, you know, they are retarded.

It sounds like you're the one objectifying men for their money instead of seeing and treating them as human beings.

Lol cute

Sorry you can't handle the truth.🌻

Hell yeah I objectify men. In the club, it's pay up or shut up. My terf.

You prob are a TERF

Definitely not. trans women are women

No they aren't lol

Yes they are. T-girl porn in your adjacent window: confirmed

implying

You can't just change a chromosome, sorry hunny :)

People are born trans. It's in their fucking chromosomes

People are born xx, xy, or xxy. Nothing else. John Hopkins agrees

Yes a trans person would have those kind of songs.

Trans women are women. Get over it.

can't properly refute

Typical mentally ill women

Because "because chromosomes" isn't an argument. You skipped like at least three sex chromosome combos by the way.

provides no proofs

Okay buddy

So your argument is "one old white guy said so"?

one old white guy at one of the most prestigious medical schools in the world

Hmmm

Another appeal to authority. Do you have an actual argument? maybe some fucking science?

attacks scientist character

claims to be arguing properly

doesn't acknowledge that I've given a science fact

Does this mean you schlick to porn of sexist men?

Actually it probably does, yeah.

Come on, now, you are doing it wrong.

Terrible women who want to get AWAY from men are TERFs.

Terrible women who want to stick around and ANNOY men are very accepting of the feminine benis.

a bitter stripper,I'm guessing you work mondays and wednesdays

I only squeeze it in here and there since I got a day job. Pole tricks feel like flying

Why do you believe you have a right to not be looked at when you are out in public?

I never said I had a right to not be looked at. I sure as fuck have a right to complain about it.

Okay, so why shouldn't people be looking at you? And how are you not an immature baby for complaining about normal human interactions?

People shouldn't stare because it's rude.

Heh, an angry stripper, no wonder who view all men as pigs.

Please step away from the stripper life and into the normal world. While your at it, do cover up. Walking around in that short skirt and that tank top that shows your breast is going to garner the attention you say you despise.

When did I ever say I view all men as pigs? Enough of them are pigs that I can barely exist in public in peace.

So what you are saying is that all men who look at you in public and not at the workplace want sex?

No when they look for too long I know what's up.

Even if they are making casual conversation and not flirting?

How about if they are taken?

Sometime with their fucking SO right next to them

Or they are either

A: Looking around B: Casual conversation C: Playing the "awkward" game.

Making other people feel awkward on purpose isn't a fucking game it's harassment.

Or it just happens because neither want to speak up to be rude.

Hell the same thing happens to me on more than one occasion because of my social anxiety.

Your social anxiety makes you stare creepily at people?

Not in the eyes, I usually avert my eyes. Much rather keep to myself if I can. Unless I'm working.

When did I ever say I view all men as pigs? Enough of them are pigs that I can barely exist in public in peace.

Enough of them are pigs so that you can have an income. You're welcome, babe.

Like women don't do the exact same shit. I guess that's the difference between men and women, with men enough are pigs, with women it's nearly all.

It should make you really sad that I have had enough negative experiences of objectification to not ever want to make eye contact in public.

pity me, please, for the love of god, pity me.

Also gatekeeping. I'm like King Gatekeeper.

You don't get to decide that.

I... ok, you win this round.

This is harassment

No, this is Patrick

This is great.

No, this is Patrick

ProTip: Most(all) heterosexual women get off on being objectified if its a man they find attractive doing it.

This whole objectification whining is just fucking stupid. Men and women do the same fucking thing to each other, every fucking day.

Yea some creepy guy focusing on that is creepy and shows his lack of self awareness but when her version of "guy makes my panties wet" does it, shes going to be flattered at the very least.

/u/herearemyquestions

You are right, you are being objectified, unless you are fat. Then, not so much.

Fat phobic. Not cool.

Sometimes people like to be objectified as a kink. Everyone likes knowing someone they are attracted to is also attractive to them. The difference is consent.

That's not what phobic means, you illiterate narcissist.

You're afraid of how attracted you are to bigger people and then abuse them on the Internet. Fat phobic.

bigger people

Bigger than what

Conventional Models

How much bigger are we talking here.

Conventional Models Automobiles

shut up fatty

It's cute that you think this will work. Have you seen my post history?

why would I put myself through that?

For shits and giggles. It's actually quite entertaining.

Because one time I got baited into a MRA thread and I fought it out to the bloody, bitter end. Very similar to this scenario.

one time I got baited

With what? A bucket of plankton?

I was hoping this was another sponge bob reference but y'all aren't that funny

It is a large sea mammal reference.

I know. Disappointing

wow incredible. Im always amazed by the amount of free time lolcows like you have to shitpost for us. Not only is it funny, it makes me feel a LOT better about myself. At least I dont spend copious amounts of my time responding to meanies online :(

Says one of those meanies online.

Does your own hypocrisy get you off?

youre worse off than I thought. Whats hypocritical hmmm? I didnt call you mean or reply more than twice. For me to be a hypocrite I would need to either call u a meanie first before I make fun of you or spend COPIOUS amounts of time on reddit arguments before calling you a loser

but alas, i dont

your retardation is showing

This took hardly any time at all. It's been easy all the arguments are so pathetic and the misogyny so obvious and old

Fat phobic. Not cool.

No just gross to fuck a fatty.

Sometimes people like to be objectified as a kink. Everyone likes knowing someone they are attracted to is also attractive to them. The difference is consent.

All sex is a kink when you think about it, and you don't get to consent to being attractive to someone. Life doesn't work that way.

I'm going to call out people for being rude and staring.

Yea but no one outside of a feminist hug box is going to care.

You aren't brave, you are just kinda an asshole. I'm an asshole to but I am self aware enough to admit it.

Y'all cared enough to start a whole god damn thread about it.

We objectified you as a lolcow.

And proved my every point

Which ones did we prove?

top men

Literally all of them

I can't even..

But can you odd?

I'm so turned on right now.

Not as turned on as I am

QUIT OBJECTIFYING ME.

YOU WISH I WERE OBJECTIFYING YOU

QUIT LOOKING AT ME YOU CREEPER!

My new strategy is hissing. Try it

Witch hunts... gaslights... sealions

It's like you loopy broads think you live in a tiny Maine fishing village in the 1840's.

Yeeeeeargh

Even if I get witch hunted for it

Call me Ishmael...

Fat phobic.

Fat: confirmed 👍🏼

I can't be insulted by something that isn't an insult

Very fat: confirmed 👍🏼

BBW porn open in adjacent browsing window: confirmed

Are we both agreeing that that would be disgusting and shameful?

The hypocrisy is shameful

But jerking off to a diabetes fetish is NOT shameful, is that correct?

That's a new one! Haven't heard of that fetish.

Shameful? y/n

Not if practiced respectfully

fat phobic?? are you implying that disliking obese people that are objectively human failures, in health and most likely in procreation, is a bad thing???????

I see no gaslighting.

Gas lights give off a lovely glow and add a charming ambience to my nightly manspreading sessions.

Lol, but seriously, where is the gas lighting in that post? I really can't find it.

Just ask the stripper. She can spot it anywhere, anytime! Gas companies hate her for this one weird trick!

I am objectified because I exist.

I am objectified, therefore I am.

I fart, therefore I am.

If Simone de Beauvoir was Descartes' ho instead of Sarte's

/u/herearemyquestions you know that avoiding eye contact is a sign of autism.

And going full sperg on reddit is another one

Thank you for your diagnosis. It really clears my life up!

Don't listen to all these r/Drama losers. Actually agree that making eye contact with random men can be taken as a sign of interest.

To bad it won't clear up those herpes. Also how much for shots of feet?

I wonder who these people are irl. I've never met someone so neurotic

It's true, I objectified her. I imagined her as an object that was fucking off.

It should make you really sad that I have had enough negative experiences of objectification to not ever want to make eye contact in public.

Hey-lp! This damsel's in distress! http://i.imgur.com/E80aiY2.jpg

Christ almighty, people, upvote the lolcow

Yeah, this one's pretty good. Almost mod material. We may have found our replacement for Jewdank.

Or it just happens because neither want to speak up to be rude.

Hell the same thing happens to me on more than one occasion because of my social anxiety.

Not in the eyes, I usually avert my eyes. Much rather keep to myself if I can. Unless I'm working.

I get where you're coming from. I commute to downtown Seattle and it involves a ferry ride and a walk downtown. I literally wear a giant parka and tuck my long hair inside and actively avoid eye contact because I'm just so fucking sick of being stared at like a piece of meat. God forbid I don't wear the parka (I have a nice figure and wear leggings even though I wear cardigans over my ass) or let my hair loose. Even in the parka I get stared at. If I accidentally make eye contact with a guy I will catch him looking back again mutiple times or even initiating contact with a smile which if I smile back leads to talking.

I've been followed on the street (my walk on both ends at the terminal and downtown to work), yelled at, proposed marriage to, and had "nice" conversations in between that carry the same intent.

I'm sorry...I'm really not trying to be mean, I'm really not. Just please. I wanna go about my day like normal and stop being reminded I'm a walking sex object simply because I made eye contact with you.

I'd say at least in my workplace they are respectful (I'm a female programmer) but word has gotten back to me about how various members of other teams have made lewd comments about my body and hair and spoken sexually of me nonstop.

I get it.

Yes, we get how pretty you think you are.

Generally a s a young woman, if a man is looking at me, I know he is almost always thinking about sex. It's why I avoid eye contact in public. It's exhausting being objectified all the time.

Geez, that either is self-confidence, or projection. Not a healthy thing either way.

She admitted she is a stripper

So she couldn't separate herself from work and real life. Poor thing.

You don't have to even be that attractive. Just a young thin woman. I exist as a young thin woman, so I'm constantly objectified.

She clearly needs to start identifying as a manatee. That will stop all that unsolicited ogling.

Seems like the right time to summon /u/absentglare, white knight to all feminists (even though he doesn't understand modern-day feminism) and savior of the fugly strippers.

I'm going to work out my issues by dismantling the oppressive system we all suffer under. Starting with cockblocking this circle jerk.

/u/herearemyquestions I have a question. Do you get a fem boner when you cockblock a bunch of guys just trying to enjoy themselves?

-UncleSamuel