You'd think people would realize that any show that us an hour long is going to be packed with drama. It's literally how they fill the extra 52 munutes.
Men shouldn't talk about their feelings. The world doesn't care how you feel about something, and pretending that it should doesn't make life any easier.
I unironically agree, to an extent. There is definitely something to be said for the value of stoicism, even if it's not right for every possible context. But the opposite extreme, which you see among nu-males and lesser women, is to treat whatever you happen to be feeling at the time as if it were all important, and to explicitly identify with it as if your (in all likelihood highly contingent) emotions defined who you were as a person. That sort of thing is self-indulgent and at least as pathological as extreme I-have-no-feelings stoicism ever was.
Both extremes are equally retarded. Everyone should talk about their goddamn feelings because its fucking healthy, and everyone should goddamn accept their feelings dont make them special.
Valuing tough guise stoicism is as retarded as considering a rando college hispanic chicks gut feeling that white gurls shouldnt wear hoops as a valid concern.
I don't think it's so much about finding a middle ground between the two extremes as it is about knowing the proper context for each register.
There are plenty of situations where you need to value tough guy stoicism in order achieve a certain goal (say if you're a comedian, you shouldn't let it get to you every time a joke doesn't land), and there are other situations where you really should treat your feelings as if they were indicative of something real and consequential (say, your feelings towards your significant other).
And talking about your feelings isn't necessarily "healthy" (nor is bottling them up for that matter). If taking about your feelings is simply a way to indulge in them for the sake of sentimentality you're probably not doing yourself any favors.
I agree about proper context. The problem with "manly" stoicism is not that men arent confiding to intimately involved others, its actually more of an internal issue, I think, in which men feel shame for having normal emotions. E.g. it should not be seen as extraordinary or extra cute if a man cries for whatever reason. People have emotions, we're in an advanced society, no one should be ashamed or feel insecure about feeling normal things.
Of course, people shouldnt be going around screaming their internal monologues or bursting into tears, but masculine stoicism leads to more depression, anxiety, and ultimately violent behavior in men. Boys should be taught its ok to be a bitch sometimes (not that everyone needs to hear about it though)
If taking about your feelings is simply a way to indulge in them for the sake of sentimentality you're probably not doing yourself any favors.
then maybe say that.
the problem with "only share their feelings if they are valid" is that people who need to share their feelings are the ones who will assume they are invalid and should not be shareable
Every adult male on reddit seems to be hellbent on admitting to crying about everything at the drop of a hat. Celebrity/sports star says anything vaguely emotional? Comments are 85% "Who's cutting onions in here? I'm not crying, you're crying! Now I'm crying quietly at my desk because a football star rose from a bad family situation to win the super bowl!"
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n/a UncleSamuel 2017-03-16
More importantly that show is complete dogshit.
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n/a MajorPrick 2017-03-16
I really want to disagree with (((-UncleSamuel))), but it is literal dogshit.
n/a Ronocm13 2017-03-16
The first season was fun for what it was but it has just gone down the toilet and some how the special effects get worse.
n/a Rezingreenbowl 2017-03-16
You'd think people would realize that any show that us an hour long is going to be packed with drama. It's literally how they fill the extra 52 munutes.
n/a GARBAGE_MACHINE 2017-03-16
n/a Gunryk 2017-03-16
Men can talk about their feelings, they just can't talk about the dumb ones..
Also, the flash is a shitty hero and was never good, the babies of the flash and the jews should be stomped, prove me wrong. You. Can. Not.
n/a TruthPains 2017-03-16
M8 yer nan proved you wrong by now aborting you
n/a dealin_roofies 2017-03-16
/u/jbp616 you made PIMM here cry. Maybe he'd like to talk about it with you?
n/a jbp616 2017-03-16
I dont. I dont know what that means? PIMM?
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-03-16
You've never had a pimm's cup before??
n/a jbp616 2017-03-16
I haven't. Heard of it though. I really mainly just drink bourbon. Its cucumber or something right?
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-03-16
Shit idk. I think pimms is a liqueur. PIMM is PhysicsIsMyMistress. I was joshin you
n/a GARBAGE_MACHINE 2017-03-16
Penis
In
My
Mouth
n/a jbp616 2017-03-16
I made the Penis in /u/dealin_roofies mouth cry? Is that good or bad? I dont even know.
n/a Fartkin 2017-03-16
Men should only share their feelings with an empty bottle of Whiskey.
Anything else is fag shit.
n/a Ylajali_2002 2017-03-16
I unironically agree, to an extent. There is definitely something to be said for the value of stoicism, even if it's not right for every possible context. But the opposite extreme, which you see among nu-males and lesser women, is to treat whatever you happen to be feeling at the time as if it were all important, and to explicitly identify with it as if your (in all likelihood highly contingent) emotions defined who you were as a person. That sort of thing is self-indulgent and at least as pathological as extreme I-have-no-feelings stoicism ever was.
n/a LadyVetinari 2017-03-16
Both extremes are equally retarded. Everyone should talk about their goddamn feelings because its fucking healthy, and everyone should goddamn accept their feelings dont make them special.
Valuing tough guise stoicism is as retarded as considering a rando college hispanic chicks gut feeling that white gurls shouldnt wear hoops as a valid concern.
n/a Ylajali_2002 2017-03-16
I don't think it's so much about finding a middle ground between the two extremes as it is about knowing the proper context for each register.
There are plenty of situations where you need to value tough guy stoicism in order achieve a certain goal (say if you're a comedian, you shouldn't let it get to you every time a joke doesn't land), and there are other situations where you really should treat your feelings as if they were indicative of something real and consequential (say, your feelings towards your significant other).
And talking about your feelings isn't necessarily "healthy" (nor is bottling them up for that matter). If taking about your feelings is simply a way to indulge in them for the sake of sentimentality you're probably not doing yourself any favors.
n/a LadyVetinari 2017-03-16
I agree about proper context. The problem with "manly" stoicism is not that men arent confiding to intimately involved others, its actually more of an internal issue, I think, in which men feel shame for having normal emotions. E.g. it should not be seen as extraordinary or extra cute if a man cries for whatever reason. People have emotions, we're in an advanced society, no one should be ashamed or feel insecure about feeling normal things.
Of course, people shouldnt be going around screaming their internal monologues or bursting into tears, but masculine stoicism leads to more depression, anxiety, and ultimately violent behavior in men. Boys should be taught its ok to be a bitch sometimes (not that everyone needs to hear about it though)
n/a thefran 2017-03-16
then maybe say that.
the problem with "only share their feelings if they are valid" is that people who need to share their feelings are the ones who will assume they are invalid and should not be shareable
n/a Mort_DeRire 2017-03-16
Every adult male on reddit seems to be hellbent on admitting to crying about everything at the drop of a hat. Celebrity/sports star says anything vaguely emotional? Comments are 85% "Who's cutting onions in here? I'm not crying, you're crying! Now I'm crying quietly at my desk because a football star rose from a bad family situation to win the super bowl!"