I guess kiddie rapists only know one comeback, probably cause the rest of your limited mental energy goes into figuring out how to get innocent little girls into your van
Here's the thing. You said a "Ephebophile is a Pedophile."
Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a Ephebophile, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls Ephebophiles Pedophiles. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.
If you're saying "Pedophile Family" you're referring to the fetish of Pedophaila, which includes things from Pedophiles to Ephebophiles to Hebephilies.
So your reasoning for calling a Ephebophile a Pedophile is because random people "call the ones who like kids Pedophiles?" Let's get Lolicons and Shotacons in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a BDSM Lover or an Fetisher? It's not one or the other, that's not how fetishes work. They're both. A Ephebophile is a Ephebophile and a member of the Pedophile family. But that's not what you said. You said a Ephebophile is a Pedophile, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the Pedophile family Pedophiles, which means you'd call Hebephiles, Lolicons, and other Fetishers Pedophiles, too. Which you said you don't.
Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaws are apparently crows"
Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.
If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens.
So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't.
I was writing some stupid grandstanding social commentary about how dudes have this fantasy in their head about being fucked by older women when underage and how society views it more acceptable for women to be pedophiles and/or rapists due to the expected gender roles of men and women, but then I realized I'm in this sub and no one cares. So I'll just go with a shitty meme:
You're so smart, did you know that? That's very deep thinking and writing. Someone give this man some gold! Thank you for being so intelligent and sharing your wisdom with the rest of us. There are so many dumb things and people out there, pretty much all of America, but you've shown me that we aren't Idiocracy quite yet. Faith in humanity restored!
Depends on your state, but in most states, yes. A minor cannot give consent to an adult, which the chick was. So even if you aren't calling it rape, the DA would.
Alabama law defines second-degree rape as “sexual intercourse with a member of the opposite sex less than 16 and more than 12 years old; provided, however, the actor is at least two years older than the member of the opposite sex.”
"Alabama law defines second-degree rape as “sexual intercourse with a member of the opposite sex less than 16 and more than 12 years old; provided, however, the actor is at least two years older than the member of the opposite sex.”"
There's a pic of me in my comment history if you don't know how fucking sexy I am. I get any chick I want, yours too if you had one. You just sounding jealous af, it's lame dawg. Cut it out. Be a man.
It's cute how you can't identify nuance in situations. I'll try to explain in simple terms.
Just because a person does a bad thing doesn't make them a bad person. That person should be punished for the bad thing they did. But also that person shouldn't necessarily be judged by that bad thing for the rest of their lives.
You see, some bad things are worse than others. Some bad things are even done by mistake. There are all sorts of ways a good person can do bad things. There are even ways to prevent a good person from doing bad things.
After a person does a bad thing, they can still do good things! In fact it's even possible for that person to never do a bad thing again! I think we as a society should forgive people who do bad things so that they can be able to do good things in the future. Because if you lock up a person who does a bad thing for a really long time, well, there isn't much they can do, right?
This is why rehabilitation is a better way to carry out justice than punishment. If you lock up everyone who does a bad thing without considering rehabilitation, it's a big waste. It costs lots of money, and now those people can't contribute to society. Even worse, if you end up doing a bad thing.... you're fucked! With no ability to recover.
Does this help at all? I suppose not. It's hard to teach nuance to people who love the comforting world of absolutes. Unfortunately reality doesn't match up, but I suppose that doesn't matter to such people.
There's a lot about the alleged perpetrator there, but personally I think you could consider the alleged victim and their family a bit more. You talk about 'compassionate sentencing' but what about compassion for them?
I think we as a society should forgive people who do bad things
how the fuck does a harsher sentence show compassion for the victim? a criminal's sentence has no practical effect on the victim. you know what has practical effect? therapy. monetary compensation. other actions designed to repair the damage of the act. how does locking someone up have any effect on things that actually matter to a victim?
a criminal's sentence has no practical effect on the victim... how does locking someone up have any effect on things that actually matter to a victim?
Are you serious? The victim and their family I said, anyway, nice attempt at moving the goalposts.
Last month, Paige's mother Pamela took to Facebook and shared the graphic details of her daughter's injuries while waiting to hear if her killer's sentence will be reduced.
She said: “Everyday I sit and wait for that phone call to let us know if his sentence will be lowered.
“I pray that the justice system of Scotland doesn’t allow this man to have any sentence lowered whatsoever.
THE MOTHER of a man who was shot dead in a gun attack has told of how she is living in fear after the man charged with her son's murder was released from prison by mistake - and remains on the run.
Serial rapist Selva Kumar Subbiah is due to be released from prison this month and authorities won’t say whether he’ll be deported to his native Malaysia or returned to the streets of Toronto.
Subbiah, 56, assaulted more than two dozen women in the city and one of them says she can’t stop worrying as his Jan. 29 release date approaches.
A paedophile who raped and sexually assaulted two young girls is back on the streets after serving a sentence his victims described as “not enough”. [...]
“He isn’t wanted back here and a lot of people in the locality are worried that he will come back,” Ms Barrett said.
“If he did come back here I would be worried about bumping into him.”
Do you know what statutory means? It basically means legally, which means that statutory rape is unlawful rape, or illegal rape. He illegally raped an innocent 19 year old girl or whatever the fuck this case is about.
it's clear none of these pearl clutchers had sex in high school. At 14-15 I was not such a child that I didnt know what I was doing or didnt know what sex meant or didnt know the implications of age. Its trashy but its not enough to make me say LOCK THE PEDO SCUM UP
So if 13 year olds have begun puberty at a normal age do you think it's okay for adults to fuck them?
Maybe, although I think that experts in adolescent psychology should be consulted before laws like these are drafted. Far too often this kind of legislation is written by people who care more about appeasing the moral outrage of their constituency than the human beings who are actually affected.
I started puberty at 9... this is fucked up. Enough of the internet for me tonight.
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n/a SnapshillBot 2017-03-24
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n/a nmx179 2017-03-24
How dare that 14 year old man rape that innocent 19 year old girl, I hope they lock up that pedophile piece of trash for good.
n/a kippot 2017-03-24
wut
n/a nmx179 2017-03-24
Nice pedo-sympathy you pedo piece of shit
n/a Ranilen 2017-03-24
/u/kippot is clearly a big fan of cheese pizza.
n/a kippot 2017-03-24
you're the centipedo lmao
n/a nmx179 2017-03-24
>no u
Fuck off ephebibblybooblophile scum, I hope the FBI kicks your door in today and arrests you for your assuredly massive collection of anime
n/a kippot 2017-03-24
project harder haha
n/a nmx179 2017-03-24
>no u again
I guess kiddie rapists only know one comeback, probably cause the rest of your limited mental energy goes into figuring out how to get innocent little girls into your van
n/a kippot 2017-03-24
centipedos gonna centipedophile
n/a nmx179 2017-03-24
Exactly what a pedophile would say
n/a pepperouchau 2017-03-24
Every time
n/a Awayfone 2017-03-24
Well yeah of curse, they do know who the underage father is.
n/a TSwizzlesNipples 2017-03-24
ooooooh spicy retort! I like it!
n/a TheGreatWolfRuss 2017-03-24
it's just white culture
n/a Wraith_GraveSpell 2017-03-24
Nice try, whites don't have culture
n/a Bureaucrat-72 2017-03-24
Sure they do. Haven't you watched Sunny in Philadelphia?
n/a o11c 2017-03-24
Actually, all culture is white. Seemingly non-white cultures are just a white culture that has had something added to it at the last minute.
Proof
n/a DistortedLines 2017-03-24
Does it even need to be said at this point?
n/a tilmoph 2017-03-24
It needs to be mentioned at all times or PC culture wins and mayocide may lose.
n/a DudeMayocideLmao 2017-03-24
n/a Cleverly_Clearly 2017-03-24
First they came for the child rapists - and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a child rapist.
Then they came for the ephebibblybooblophiles - and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't... whatever that is.
And then they didn't come for me, because I wasn't a pedophile.
n/a Awayfone 2017-03-24
You know who also says they are not pedophiles?
Pedophiles
n/a KillerOfManga 2017-03-24
Here's the thing. You said a "Ephebophile is a Pedophile."
Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a Ephebophile, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls Ephebophiles Pedophiles. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.
If you're saying "Pedophile Family" you're referring to the fetish of Pedophaila, which includes things from Pedophiles to Ephebophiles to Hebephilies.
So your reasoning for calling a Ephebophile a Pedophile is because random people "call the ones who like kids Pedophiles?" Let's get Lolicons and Shotacons in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a BDSM Lover or an Fetisher? It's not one or the other, that's not how fetishes work. They're both. A Ephebophile is a Ephebophile and a member of the Pedophile family. But that's not what you said. You said a Ephebophile is a Pedophile, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the Pedophile family Pedophiles, which means you'd call Hebephiles, Lolicons, and other Fetishers Pedophiles, too. Which you said you don't.
It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?
n/a Dxdestroyer 2017-03-24
Is this copy pasta? Either way, I'm saving this for future use.
n/a tilmoph 2017-03-24
It is. It was originally about jackdaws and crows. Spoiler alert, the user who started the pasta was wrong. Jackdaws are apparently crows.
n/a Will0saurus 2017-03-24
Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaws are apparently crows"
Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.
If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens.
So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't.
It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?
n/a IAmAN00bie 2017-03-24
Excuse me, it's ephebophile.
n/a eskachig 2017-03-24
And this is about where I lost it.
n/a FreeRobotFrost 2017-03-24
Je suis Charlie Hebedophile
n/a DuckHuntHotDog 2017-03-24
I was writing some stupid grandstanding social commentary about how dudes have this fantasy in their head about being fucked by older women when underage and how society views it more acceptable for women to be pedophiles and/or rapists due to the expected gender roles of men and women, but then I realized I'm in this sub and no one cares. So I'll just go with a shitty meme:
Dude mayocide lmao
n/a real_human__bean 2017-03-24
Yes but when?
n/a DuckHuntHotDog 2017-03-24
Now
n/a tilmoph 2017-03-24
I'm kind of busy today, can we reschedule for next Tuesday?
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-03-24
Yeah but let's shoot for after lunch. I have an allergist appointment at 9
n/a FrostBittenSalsa 2017-03-24
I don't think that'll work, I'm covering for a co-worker that day. Let's aim for Thursday, I think we should be able to squeeze that in.
n/a IsADragon 2017-03-24
Thank you đź‘Ś
n/a a_normal_human 2017-03-24
I thought sandpeople were way better at the whole pedofile thing than mayos.
n/a buttsecksyermum 2017-03-24
No. They just walk in single file to hide their numbers.
n/a TheChtaptiskFithp 2017-03-24
To a true pan-africanist, a sandperson is a mayo. The Maghreb will one day be cleansed of Arab filth to make way for the true people of Africa.
n/a DaniaMalia 2017-03-24
Have you ever noticed how the people describing this fantasy are always middle aged dudes?
n/a DuckHuntHotDog 2017-03-24
Wouldn't surprise me if it was mostly that demographic it appealed to.
n/a ThatOtherPromise 2017-03-24
I am 22 and I can tell you that since I was 15 I wanted to bang/be banged by my teacher
get real, is common
n/a CaliggyJack 2017-03-24
I never had this fantasy. Mostly cause all the teachers I got were uggo.
n/a FreeRobotFrost 2017-03-24
You're so smart, did you know that? That's very deep thinking and writing. Someone give this man some gold! Thank you for being so intelligent and sharing your wisdom with the rest of us. There are so many dumb things and people out there, pretty much all of America, but you've shown me that we aren't Idiocracy quite yet. Faith in humanity restored!
n/a DuckHuntHotDog 2017-03-24
u r welcome
n/a ThatOtherPromise 2017-03-24
How the fuck is she a rapist?
How is a 19y.o a full blown adult and a 14y.o a defenseless child?
Fucking americans
n/a pepperouchau 2017-03-24
So what's it like being a pedophile?
n/a ThatOtherPromise 2017-03-24
I dont know cause I aint one
n/a kippot 2017-03-24
centipedos gonna centipedophile, in other news water is wet
n/a nmx179 2017-03-24
>casual excuses for pedophilia
Spotted the pedo
n/a kippot 2017-03-24
im just pointing at the actual centipedos, not the ones you make up in your mind
n/a nmx179 2017-03-24
Said the pedophile
n/a Chin_Up_Chick 2017-03-24
The age gap between 14 and 19 is different than someone 25 and 30.
If you had the same mentality, knowledge, and maturity at 14 than you did at 19 see a psychologist.
n/a ThatOtherPromise 2017-03-24
I stopped growing up at 14, go fuck yourself with your abelism
n/a Time_to_Drink 2017-03-24
Gross. A manchild pedo.
n/a JumbledFun 2017-03-24
shocked that wasn't from /r/anarchism
n/a StopTalkingOK 2017-03-24
I hooked up with an 18 yo chick when I was 14. Was it rape?
n/a Forgotten_Son 2017-03-24
I don't think a horny teenage boy daydreaming about having sex with someone makes them a rapist.
n/a kippot 2017-03-24
rekt
n/a StopTalkingOK 2017-03-24
Hey man. You think it don't be like it is, but it do.
n/a TSwizzlesNipples 2017-03-24
Depends on your state, but in most states, yes. A minor cannot give consent to an adult, which the chick was. So even if you aren't calling it rape, the DA would.
n/a StopTalkingOK 2017-03-24
Yeah but I'm a sovereign citizen
n/a TSwizzlesNipples 2017-03-24
kys fam
n/a badasspiggy 2017-03-24
I lost my virginity at 17 to an 18 year old, is that illegal?
n/a SpotNL 2017-03-24
No, lying is still legal.
n/a TSwizzlesNipples 2017-03-24
I'm most states, no.
n/a heartfullofhatred 2017-03-24
Alabama law defines second-degree rape as “sexual intercourse with a member of the opposite sex less than 16 and more than 12 years old; provided, however, the actor is at least two years older than the member of the opposite sex.”
n/a badasspiggy 2017-03-24
Interesting the law says "opposite sex", could this technically be used in court to try to argue for gay relationships with underage people?
Or more likely they just bust out the sodomy laws that they still have on the books.
n/a subpoutine 2017-03-24
Fun fagt: Canada only changed its AOC from 14 to 16 when an older dude was caught plowing tender 14yo bussy.
n/a cleverseneca 2017-03-24
No, but how'd you get your own hand that was a year older than you.
n/a badasspiggy 2017-03-24
Came attached to a girl a year older than me
n/a cleverseneca 2017-03-24
Ahh, then yes it was illegal! Prostitution is bad mmmkay, you can't just pay an 18 year old to have sex with you.
n/a badasspiggy 2017-03-24
Shit I didn't pay her. Did I just commit two crimes? Because I think that counts as shoplifting.
n/a heartfullofhatred 2017-03-24
"Alabama law defines second-degree rape as “sexual intercourse with a member of the opposite sex less than 16 and more than 12 years old; provided, however, the actor is at least two years older than the member of the opposite sex.”"
n/a eskachig 2017-03-24
Yes. It's not your fault bro.
Really it isn't, that was all luck.
n/a StopTalkingOK 2017-03-24
Honestly she had issues
n/a eskachig 2017-03-24
Stop it, I'm envious enough already. Chicks with issues always fuck the best.
n/a MG87 2017-03-24
No you didnt.
n/a StopTalkingOK 2017-03-24
K
n/a MG87 2017-03-24
Whatever helps you sleep at night, virgin.
n/a StopTalkingOK 2017-03-24
There's a pic of me in my comment history if you don't know how fucking sexy I am. I get any chick I want, yours too if you had one. You just sounding jealous af, it's lame dawg. Cut it out. Be a man.
n/a MG87 2017-03-24
Now you're just trying to impress me like I'm your alcoholic father.
n/a SmurfPrivilege 2017-03-24
My favorite rationalization:
n/a damn_it_so_much 2017-03-24
The OP is arguing for compassionate sentencing, not that rape is a ok. But whatever, sidebar rules and all that.
n/a TSwizzlesNipples 2017-03-24
I can't decide if you're a rape or pedo apologist. rapedologist? If that isn't a word, it should be.
n/a damn_it_so_much 2017-03-24
It's cute how you can't identify nuance in situations. I'll try to explain in simple terms.
Just because a person does a bad thing doesn't make them a bad person. That person should be punished for the bad thing they did. But also that person shouldn't necessarily be judged by that bad thing for the rest of their lives.
You see, some bad things are worse than others. Some bad things are even done by mistake. There are all sorts of ways a good person can do bad things. There are even ways to prevent a good person from doing bad things.
After a person does a bad thing, they can still do good things! In fact it's even possible for that person to never do a bad thing again! I think we as a society should forgive people who do bad things so that they can be able to do good things in the future. Because if you lock up a person who does a bad thing for a really long time, well, there isn't much they can do, right?
This is why rehabilitation is a better way to carry out justice than punishment. If you lock up everyone who does a bad thing without considering rehabilitation, it's a big waste. It costs lots of money, and now those people can't contribute to society. Even worse, if you end up doing a bad thing.... you're fucked! With no ability to recover.
Does this help at all? I suppose not. It's hard to teach nuance to people who love the comforting world of absolutes. Unfortunately reality doesn't match up, but I suppose that doesn't matter to such people.
n/a TSwizzlesNipples 2017-03-24
delete ur account
n/a damn_it_so_much 2017-03-24
>assuming unsolicited eli5 is ever srs
no u
n/a double-happiness 2017-03-24
There's a lot about the alleged perpetrator there, but personally I think you could consider the alleged victim and their family a bit more. You talk about 'compassionate sentencing' but what about compassion for them?
All very easy for you to say, isn't it.
n/a damn_it_so_much 2017-03-24
how the fuck does a harsher sentence show compassion for the victim? a criminal's sentence has no practical effect on the victim. you know what has practical effect? therapy. monetary compensation. other actions designed to repair the damage of the act. how does locking someone up have any effect on things that actually matter to a victim?
n/a double-happiness 2017-03-24
Are you serious? The victim and their family I said, anyway, nice attempt at moving the goalposts.
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/15053404.Paige_Doherty___s_killer_John_Leathem_moves_jails_over_fears_for_his_safety/
http://metro.co.uk/2011/05/09/chanelle-hayes-fears-mums-killer-keith-pollards-release-from-prison-4412/#ixzz4cKuxttnU
http://www.irishnews.com/news/2017/03/25/news/mother-of-murder-victim-criticises-prison-service-and-psni-after-prisoner-charged-with-the-killing-is-mistakenly-released-fr-977520/
https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2017/01/09/toronto-serial-rapist-to-be-released-from-prison-amid-warnings-hes-a-risk-to-reoffend.html
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/he-is-evil-victim-fears-shell-bump-into-rapist-as-hes-back-on-streets-35400040.html
http://www.herald.ie/news/victim-still-lives-in-fear-as-brutal-rapist-due-for-jail-release-29477669.html
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11691109
Tell me more about how "a criminal's sentence has no practical effect on the victim". SMH
n/a damn_it_so_much 2017-03-24
"Living in fear" is something therapy can address. It's an irrational fear... none of these people are actually in danger.
n/a double-happiness 2017-03-24
Ridiculous. You're apparently assuming that once people have been punished, they never attack the same individual again.
https://www.nij.gov/topics/corrections/recidivism/Pages/welcome.aspx
n/a damn_it_so_much 2017-03-24
Ridiculous. You're apparently assuming recidivism is 100% and/or all recidivism is against the same victim.
n/a double-happiness 2017-03-24
If any of it is against the same victim then it's incorrect to say that "It's an irrational fear... none of these people are actually in danger".
Edit: found some relevant data:
[source]
n/a damn_it_so_much 2017-03-24
I can't view that page and there are no reviews of the book. So that's basically moot.
The vast majority of victims are not in danger, happy?
n/a FreeRobotFrost 2017-03-24
I really like this copypasta!
n/a damn_it_so_much 2017-03-24
Thanks, it's completely original bullshit ^^
n/a you_cant_banme 2017-03-24
So tired of people saying 'statutory rape = rape'. That 'statutory' part is there for a reason. You can't just drop it.
n/a UmmahSultan 2017-03-24
Do you know what statutory means? It basically means legally, which means that statutory rape is unlawful rape, or illegal rape. He illegally raped an innocent 19 year old girl or whatever the fuck this case is about.
n/a heartfullofhatred 2017-03-24
Yes it is only legal for an adult to fuck a child if they are married in a proper Islamic ceremony inshallah
n/a Wraith_GraveSpell 2017-03-24
This
n/a Time_to_Drink 2017-03-24
Found the pedo
n/a o11c 2017-03-24
There's a reason, but you're wrong about what the reason is.
The thing about statutory rape is that it is indefensible. There's no "he said, she said". The mere act of sex occurring is enough to make it rape.
n/a ay_what_up 2017-03-24
it's clear none of these pearl clutchers had sex in high school. At 14-15 I was not such a child that I didnt know what I was doing or didnt know what sex meant or didnt know the implications of age. Its trashy but its not enough to make me say LOCK THE PEDO SCUM UP
n/a TheFinalArgument1488 2017-03-24
14yo teen is a child now?
wew lad i killed my first deer when i was 12 lmfao
n/a Time_to_Drink 2017-03-24
Ok Deliverance
Go banjo duel somewhere else
n/a YourGayOpinion 2017-03-24
Convicted lefterrorist & Muslim Rasmea Odeh BTFO
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/24/rasmea-odeh-convicted-terrorist-agrees-leave-us-ex/
#ByeFelicia!
n/a RKola 2017-03-24
I started puberty at 9... this is fucked up. Enough of the internet for me tonight.
n/a ExtreemWeenie 2017-03-24
girls cant rape boys