Cam-whore who is "skilled" in "marketing", "modelling", "business strategies", "photography" & making "business connections" explains how difficult it is whore yourself online for a few bucks. Others are not impressed.

25  2017-04-03 by flipkt

https://www.reddit.com/r/Documentaries/comments/6364d4/cam_girlz_2015_the_true_lives_of_women_who_pose/dfrqtnv/

Bonus copypasta which she probably gilded herself

Do it. Tell me how easy it is to make thousands. How you just have to lay there. How you don't have to spend hours and hundreds of dollars on outfits and toys. How you don't have to act convincingly. How you have no script To think up. How you don't have to spend hours online marketing yourself and marketing YOURSELF WELL. Tell me marketing is easy. Set up is easy. The daily beauty maintenance and care is easy. Depending on what you do, the emotional commitment and massive emotional strength to deal with MULTIPLE lonely types looking for a psuedo girlfriend , the possible stamina to take pain, the dedicated and difficult acting you might need to be a domme or a sub on the cam. Like keeping paying customers and managing business strategies for that isn't difficult. Business connections too. Modelling for photographers and videographers or even learning video cameras and photography for yourself. You're not making good money on a dime store webcam, and having a puppet? Fuck that's a smart fetish idea but definetly is time and labor confusing.

Ughhhhhh. No one just lays there and shoves a vibrator in and goes "pay me" and somehow survives off that.

Plus lots more in her comments and posts

https://www.reddit.com/user/Ellyxxx

https://www.reddit.com/user/Ellyxxx/submitted/

https://www.reddit.com/user/Ellyxxx?sort=controversial

37 comments

I clicked this expecting it to be /u/jewdank

I don't think she left reddit, unless she was put in to involuntary psych care or something. /u/notapostolate, do you know what happened of her buddy?

She can't post pics without being recognized though. Went would she care unless she profits?

She's a Master of Disguise though. She can remove tattoos from videos! Somebody should check if a new personality appeared recently in reddit's gay camwhore circles, for example.

And they say there's no skill to be learned from camming.

her buddy

you talking bout old /u/heelthebern?

not a clue. didn't talk to her much except about moderating.

/u/Ellyxxx is female btw, in case it wasn't clear in the post.

FYI milf porn is not done by senior citizens. You find milf porn done by women even in their 20s. Show me the huge industry of middle aged housewives flashing their tits for bitcoin.

Considering the average age of first time motherhood in the US is 26.3 that shouldn't be surprising to anyone. It's MILF not GILF.

It's still that low?!

Women are merely around to be incubators and to be objectified when not posting obscure drama.

this

This may be an unpopular opinion, but there's nothing wrong with a woman having a child.

That seems almost reasonable for first child. I was going to say that I doubt it ever gets to 30, but apparently Greece has already done that.

The average for women with a college degree was ~29 or 30 iirc last time I checked. Just can't imagine anyone having kids so young in the current economic climate unless they have a big trust fund or married a much older man or something.

I know what you mean, I sure as hell wouldn't want to. I know I am a bit of a paranoid doomsayer, but there are so many horrible unsolved problems looming over the world right now, that I would be overwhelmed with dread and guilt if I brought a new person into the world.

Anyway, women are still marrying men about two and a half years older than them, so that nudges it up a bit if you consider both parents. There are also still a ton of unplanned pregnancies and religious culture that promotes having children young that brings the average down.

You vastly underestimate the number of poor uneducated people getting pregnant at a young age. Probably the most terrifying thing I've ever seen was a pregnant girl who could not have been older than 13. This was in 2010.

Like, that isn't the point of MILF. It is like the mother who has children that are your age that you hang out with. Think more Stacy's Mom/American Pie versus picking up women fresh from the delivery room.

MILF in reality usually means an older woman, regardless of them having children or not.

If you see a hot older woman walking down the street it's not like you're gonna ask her if she actually has children or not before shouting something like "Damn lady, you're a tasty MILF you wanna fuck?"

And if you see a 20 year old chick walking down the street I'm sure you wouldn't ask if she has children before complimenting one of her body parts. And it would be weird to just outright refer to her as a MILF, even though she very well could have children and you just don't know.

It's more of a general guideline, and without knowing someone's parenthood status a stranger's MILF-ness can be considered subjective on a sliding spectrum per the individual and not just a black and white issue that some (1950s-minded) people would have you believe.

At least you get it. Fucking weird to call chicks in their 20s MILFs. You need to wait at least until 30s to point out the attractive exceptions that survived that 30 wall and are still relevant.

To be fair, dealing with lonely types is worth the money. I understand they're upset depressed people, but fuck me they're annoying. Do any of you have that one steam friend who's ALWAYS online, constantly moans about depression and how shit his life is, has multiple self-diagnosed "disorders", won't act on any advice you give him anyway and won't leave you alone?

Imagine dealing with that x1000.

"Check out my amazon wishlist."

yeah but you get 200 bucks and he gets sweaty socks that keep him from killing himself

It's so easy, even jewdank did it.

Those people don't pay me.

umm don't you literally j ust have to take your clothes off?

That and act like you're enjoying it, for the money of course and fake orgasms. Just like any other women basically.

Ya, men have it way harder btw, have you ever tried to fake an orgasm on webcam as a man? So sit down gurl.

TIL marketing is '4000 whorecoins for orgasm!'

"Titcoin". We might be on to something here.

"orgasm"

Honestly, the cam industry and porn in general is so saturated I wouldn't be surprised if it was hard to make a profit off of.

That's actually very true. Hard to stand out, but usually the successful ones come about by more luck than actual work.

It sounds like someone whining about their McDonald's job.

Do you know how hard it is to transport the french fries from an environment that is 25ºF, then put a very specific amount into a specially designed receptacle? Then I have to go from 25ºF to dunking them into liquid that is 450ºF; liquid so hot that it would melt my skin if I touched it. I work in an extremely dangerous environment. Plus, depending on what you do, the emotional commitment and massive emotional strength to deal with MULTIPLE hungry types looking for a burger and a shake is just draining. The dedicated and difficult acting you might need to be a happy employee at the register. Like keeping paying customers and managing business strategies for that isn't difficult. Plus, you have to be very flexible. I might go from flipping patties, to taking orders, to wiping off tables, to mopping floors in one shift! Cook, cashier, busboy, and janitor! That's like 4 whole jobs!

/u/Ellyxxx, did you remember to submit your quarterly taxes? Truly, the only hard part about stripping on cam is dealing with estimated taxes and filing every 3 months. I'm not even kidding. That's partially why I quit freelance videography.

Also, anyone who tells you that it's difficult to operate a camera is an idiot, imo. Firstly, you're using a fucking webcam that has auto-iris, auto focus, and auto-white balance. That's like 90% of the work when shooting a static, single individual shot. And if you're not using a $40 webcam, you still have that on auto when filming yourself. The next is framing, but I doubt you're worried about title safe for a MFC stream or a Eroshare video. I used to shoot depositions for civil cases which was literally the easiest, most boring money I ever made in my life. The hardest part was lugging a $6,000 camera, a tripod, a mixing board, a bunch of cables and mics, and recording equipment to various skyscrapers and setting it all up in under an hour. Also dealing with fucking DV tapes in 2014. The other 13 hours was me pointing a camera at someone while looking up Wikipedia articles about the building I was sitting in. Are you going on location and moving your entire setup? I didn't see anything in your history to help me out, so I'm just going to assume that you're one of the 4,000,000 other bedroom streamers who have a static shot, or who move into the bathroom every now and then. So you set up once?

To be fair, it would've been a lot harder if I had to make the business connections myself, but then my pay would've doubled, so I wouldn't've been too sad about it. I still would have been making less per hour than a woman playing with herself on cam.

tl;dr 😴

Cameras are easy; git gud

Hahahahaha its Jewdank

I agree that cam modeling is a job just like any other, and shouldn't be stigmatized (everyone has sex and, like, enjoys it, you know). But saying it's that much hard work is a bit reaching.

I have a friend who did some cam whoring, she made about 90K in a year, but she did it full time about and was hotter than hell (plus knew how to exploit men). She's back to stripping since she makes more and can basically do it tax free unlike camming with a paper trail.

It was kinda unnerving, she was really a predator on lonely guys.

she was really a predator on lonely guys.

Guys who choose to give money to strippers or cam girls definitely aren't victims. They're paying for a service, which is being provided to them. That's it.

I've got nothing against camming etc but I still feel sorry for a lot of guys sucked up in it.