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There are two people in that thread causing most of the arguments, either trolls or basic white bitches.

Normally I'd post specific chains

but you're a terrible poster and should delete this

i dont wanna read all this

LOL, looks like /u/LittleMissP is back to her old "arguing" style of responding to a comment and then deleting the comment she responded to so people can't see the arguments her opposition makes. Fucking cowardly cunt.

Don't the new mod rules disallow this fucking bullshit? It's shameful that a default sub moderator is allowed to do this

They haven't come into effect yet, and the admins are last I checked still weasel-wording about whether they're actually rules or just guidelines.

they also won't apply to any of the feminist subs

/u/LittleMissP doesn't seem to realize that all of this is for nothing. Western society is sick and dying, mostly because of feminism. As the west completes its cultural decline, the shining light of Islam from the East and to a lesser extent a resurgent Catholicism from the South will replace the degenerate culture white-feminist culture.

Look it up honey, demographically speaking you and your kind are doomed. The sooner you make peace with that you sooner you can find happiness in submission.

Which is why i am an Egalitarian, Fight for the rights of women in certain areas and fight for the rights of men in other areas. This is the reason people dislike feminism. Why support a following that only benefits one side when you can do both?

This gets removed, lol

If there's one thing feminists hate it's the word "egalitarian" and that's because Motte and bailey doctrine is their bread and butter.

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/03/all-in-all-another-brick-in-the-motte/

The feminists who constantly argue about whether you can be a real feminist or not without believing in X, Y and Z and wanting to empower women in some very specific way, and who demand everybody support controversial policies like affirmative action or affirmative consent laws (bailey). Then when someone says they don’t really like feminism very much, they object “But feminism is just the belief that women are people!” (motte) Then once the person hastily retreats and promises he definitely didn’t mean women aren’t people, the feminists get back to demanding everyone support affirmative action because feminism, or arguing about whether you can be a feminist and wear lipstick.

Jesus Christ. Keep yourself safe.

Not really sure what you mean.

you're a crazy idiot with waaaay to much confidence in your ability to like think and write things on the internet.

Keep yourself safe

What is it I said that's crazy?

Your mom did a lot of drugs after after that homeless guy knocked her up.

So you have no actual argument.

Yes I do: no one owes you an argument nerd

Ok.

Sorry, I just gotta know.

Are you mentally challenged?

not often enough

It shows, you clearly aren't practiced in the art of thinking.

He's a /r/MensLib mod, so yeah. Obviously.

They are also post and active in SRS subs.

An /r/MensLib mod everyone!

this is a very important discovery. your very important.

I make a lot more money than you do. I know that for a fact

That's not how facts work dummy

What's it like having no balls?

some people get really passive aggressive in here about certain topics they dont really know how to discuss properly

The guy is just a mod of some of the most bat-shit crazy subs on Reddit.

He wasn't even passive aggressive, he knows everything I said was right but he's mentally ill and forgot he wasn't in one of his echo chambers.

user reports: 1: HE KNOWS I WAS RIGHT, BUT THE FLUORIDATED WATER GOVERNMENT PSYOPS ARE SUPPRESSING HIS TRUTH GLANDS

I always get upset at effortposting.

This and unironically. It smacks too much of effort and not enough of irreverent shitposting. If you wanna be a try hard, why not visit /r/mensrights or whatever?

/u/Glitter_and_paste is why feminism is mocked.

/u/Glitter-and-paste is why feminism is mocked.

Feminism isn't addressing men's issues

So start your own movement

Okay, I'm starting a movement for men

You don't need one. You have feminism.

there are no good mens movements though, that's why they get made fun of. on one side you have the MRA's who are an unholy amalgamation of red pillers, incels, and donald trump supporters, and on the side side you have the literal cuckolds of /r/menslib.

Men - "How do you explain all the hateful, toxic things said by self-identified 'Feminists' constantly?"

Feminists - "That is a very loud and vocal minority and doesn't represent what feminism is really about."

Men - "Right? We have the same problem in the Men's Rights Movement. Few outsiders can hear the softer-spoken reason over the minority screaming hate."

Feminists - "No, all MRAs are women hating rape apologists that want to murder LGBTQBBQ bodies and enslave people of color!"

Men - "Whoa, I think that is extremely unfai-"

Feminists - "REEEEEEECALLTHECOPSIAMBEINGOPINIONRAPED!!"

Buzzfeed - "Now this looks like a story."

Don't be retarded, a cursory look at /r/mensrights or a casual conversation with an MRA will make it very clear the movement is about putting feminism down as much as it is about advocating for mens rights. And why are so many MRAs conservative? I don't get it, a movement calling for the progression of mens rights should have at least some people with progressive attitudes, but all I've seen is reactionaries

I wouldn't know, who has time for men's rights when mayos can still vote?

why do you downvote me every time you reply, that's kinda pathetic dude

What?

I never downvote.

I upvote things I like and things I hate, and so leave the rest to rot in grey indifference.

Up/downvoting is a lot of effort

Personally, I down voted you because you whined about down votes.

Personally, I down voted you because you whined about down votes.

Don't be retarded, a cursory look at Israel or a casual conversation with an jew will make it very clear the movement is about putting hitler down as much as it is about advocating for jew rights. And why are so many jews anti-nazis?

please tell me you don't actually think the relationship between feminists and men is the same as the relationship between nazis and jews

The leader of genius must have the ability to make different opponents appear as if they belonged to one category.

• Some gamergater MRA dudebro white supremacist neckbeard

You're right.

Men are way worse than Hitler.

Menocide now.

this but unironically

Looks like cuck's back on the menu.

or a casual conversation with a feminist will make it very clear the movement is about putting men down as much as it is about advocating for womens rights.

Agreed

the movement is about putting feminism down as much as it is about advocating for mens rights

What's the problem with that?

And why are so many MRAs conservative?

Even tho they aren't. They are liberal to libertarian actually.

all I've seen is reactionaries

You don't think feminism is reactionary?

why are so many MRAs conservative

Where on earth did you get that idea?

but all I've seen is reactionaries

Oh, it came out of your upside-down worldview, the one in which using terminology literally by the French Revolutionaries demonstrates that you're a normal person with normal political views, okay.

What, you mean the movement that's constantly harassed, slandered, and lobbied against by feminist groups has a serious beef with them? Who knew!

How could you not look at something like the current treatment of Cassie Jaye and her documentary, and not say that the men's rights movement is justified in their hate for feminism?

Ok, so I really don't want to wade into this discussion, but that name brings up a bunch of information.

Could you give a quick rundown about what and who you're talking about here?

She is/was a feminist. Made a documentary about MRA. Decided not to make it a hit piece. In response, everyone censors her.

Here's an interview

Cassie Jaye is a filmmaker who decided to make independent feminist documentaries after a short stint as a horror film actress left her jaded towards the industry.

Her latest film 'The Red Pill' (an unfortunate coincidence, and no relation to you know who) originally started with her looking to expose the MRA movement, but instead ended up listening to what they had to say and ended up agreeing on many of their issues, becoming 'red pilled' as it were. It's a great documentary and I highly recommend it.

Anyways, because she dared to make a film that isn't just a hitpiece, she's been disowned and slandered badly by major feminist groups. They've organised protests against the film to stop people from watching it, gone on national news to outright lie about the film's contents, called her a traitor and a rape apologist, and so on, largely acting like puritanical Christians in the 50's.

I have yet to meet a self-described MRA who wasn't a turd

Probably because most reasonable MRAs know better than to call themselves that if they want there to be even the hint of a discussion.

Saying that you're an MRA is the Internet equivalent to walking down the sidewalk while spitting on strangers' shoes - great way to start a fight, but not so great for getting anywhere productive.

this but unironically

cry more I hear that helps

Kek, I wouldn't care that you said that if not for the fact that you mod cuckslib.

You have to actually get somewhere with the married people you creep on before you start calling people cucks. Otherwise you're just an creep, attempted home wrecker, and total shitbird.

Nothing you are saying changes you being a cuck that surrounds himself with other self loathing cucks. Calling me a creep really cuts to the bone. I'm so gross, ugh. Eww.

You're really butt hurt that a sub exists where you can't shitpost about how it's women's fault that you're so unfuckable. You can do that on most of Reddit, but menslib mere existence is violating your safe space somehow.

No, I'm not butthurt. It isn't that I'm offended by it. I'm laughing at how absurd the place is. I love how your go to is to express all that toxic masculinity when you get criticized. All that is missing is for you tell me how triggered I am for maximum hypocrisy and fakeness on your end.

I'm sorry I'll be nicer to you in r/drama. this is a no bully zone.

Disingenuous still? I don't care what you say to me. I say whatever I want as well. Except you are the one that purports to be one thing in one place and then come here and show how completely full of shit you are.

It is OK when I do it seems to be really popular among moral police smug feminists.

Who's purporting? I provide tech support for a sub where women and men want to talk about issues important to them without 99/100 posts being ragebait about how good women have it. I'm not purporting to be nice. Fuck you :^)

Oh, you are right. I've had this conversation before with you. I take back what I said about hypocrite.

Unironically using cuck as an insult....

Fucking off yourself and do us all a favor my dude.

There is no better description for menslib users.

He's not your dude buddy

Everyone is my dude fam

If there's ever place where that's an appropriate insult it's to the menslib userbase

To them it isn't an insult - it's progressive.

It's more visible when you realize /r/menslib was started by /r/againstmensrights participants and contributors

Oh, I'm fully aware. I just didn't need to state the obvious.

Some people don't know that.

I'm surprised by many of the deleted comments. Some seemed fairly thought out and not inflammatory. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the mods of /r/TooManyChromosomes would be deleting comments like that.

Only with red pillers and MRAs who are so furious about potentially living and working on an equal field of competition that they can't stand it. That's why the marines have been whining so much about women marines.

God, that seems like a terrible example. Are marines really scared of competition from feeemales?

A proper, true feminist is Emma Watson.

/s?

Only with red pillers and MRAs who are so furious about potentially living and working on an equal field of competition that they can't stand it. That's why the marines have been whining so much about women marines.

The complaints have literally been about how men and women have different physical fitness standards.

Turns out that people don't usually want government mandated literally worse soldiers in their squad while shooting is going on.

Unless they are retreating I guess.

The women will be slower, they'd either block bullets for the men or get caught and buy time by being raped.

Hell, sounds like we should remove fitness tests entirely and just let everyone would win.

Bringing up the marines (or the military in general) is a terrible example, but even in the general sense, one longs for the day when feminists offer an equal field of competition. All we get now is the offer of a smorgasbord of preferential treatment aimed to benefit women, with a side of yelling at you if you disagree with them.

> Like all of you, I am a human being and we make mistakes.

/u/StabWhale

They think equality means something different than feminists.

Yes. They think it means the thing that it actually does mean. As opposed to what feminists think it means, which is not what it actually means.

They didn't read up properly what it is, what certain​ words mean etc.

But I thought definitions were socially constructed and the dictionary was a tool of the patriarchy? Things are what they are, not what literature claims them to be.

They think it's man hating or that feminists never help men.

Because it is and they don't.

I'm getting a surprisingly lots of downvotes considering most of you seem to agree with me on the reasons I outlined :)

Actually your vote total is higher than it was when I made the comment but ok.

MRAs are even worst than feminist. Prove me wrong nerds.

Pro tip: You can't.

No proof necessary, but here I go.

My argument is that MRAs are just as bad as feminists.

Assume, in contradiction, that MRAs are worse than feminists. However, there are more feminists than MRAs, which represents a greater number of mentally/emotionally challenged failures whose presence degrades whichever discourse in which they are involved. Therefore, feminists cannot be better.

However, MRAs cannot be better than feminists, because they also are so insecure and emotionally damaged that their existence gives legitimacy to both mayocide and human extinction supporters.

Therefore, futanari isn't gay, and it's actually straighter than regular porn. QEED

Drink bleach, you low-effort butt trumpet.

Literally whut. I called you a butt trumpet, as in the musical instrument you play with uranus.

Doot, doot.

Actually he's a hitler nazi.