Jenner promoted the festival in a now-deleted Instagram photo, for which she was paid $250,000, according to a Fyre employee with knowledge of the transaction. Jenner did not label the post as an advertisement.
Is that considered out of the norm for reality/IG stars?
I think some US agency (FCC?) came out with guidelines that it's illegal to not be upfront about making paid ads with your social media accounts. IIRC some YouTubers got in trouble for not being above-board about paid ads.
Rather than hold the festival at a venue built to support thousands of attendees, McFarland, who has never thrown a large-scale music festival before, says he and his partners decided to take on the ambitious task of building a city from scratch
These people did accomplish a little bit more than the Trump administration, AND they got a bunch of models to do promos. They'll have offices in the west wing of the White House next.
Don't worry guys. It's all Trump's fault. Those poor executives couldn't help themselves from grabbing the money and running.
I'm with them on this. It strikes me as the same kind of fuckwittism.
Promise them a big, beautiful, gorgeous wall festival all up until it actually has to happen, then act shocked at how very difficult no one could have predicted it being, and then promise them the next thing.
Thanks Obama. If you had just lost to Hillary the first time 'round, we might have elected you now.
You would think that one of the first things the organizers would check for an outdoor music festival would be that there no dangerous wild animals roaming the venue.
Imagine if it had actually gone off. You'd have people fucked up on E thinking 'hey, wouldn't it be great to go skinny-dipping right now?' right before they get a chunk taken out of their leg.
Sure, but the thing was a clusterfuck of people not involved in the field wanting to pay him less than he was promised, I think those actually in the field will recognise the shitty situation he was put in. I mean, this is already infamous even for people who couldn't give a flying fuck about festivals.
I mean in the article it seems like they did all they could do, only quitting once his employer failed to honor their agreed upon wage. I think most people would've bailed after the marketing exec's comment (I would have).
This event is going to go down as a historic example of how to fuck up in this industry. The only thing that an employee of this shit show would be judged for would be being stupid enough to stay on once the writing was on the wall.
i wouldnt be so sure. this happens surprisingly often, it just usually doesnt involve '''''celebrities''''', rich kids etc so it doesnt make the news.
a lot of people seem do a couple of succesful events in nightclubs, and think they can jump to doing outdoor events without really considering what that entails. the fact that they did it in some third world country means there was no licensing authority asking them difficult health and safety questions which would stop this kind of thing in the US or europe before it started.
plus hes a silicon valley exec and you know what theyre like with interpreting their own luck/class advantage as genius.
Dude. Acts were booked, but not paid. Ticket-holders were hounded by email to pre-load their "Fyre Bands" with thousands of dollars before-hand "because it's a no-cash event".
When you book acts with no intention of paying them, and also don't build any of the shit you were charging for and advertising (including the stage), you are really just building the impression that a festival is going to happen so that people (ticket holders) will "invest" in it (give you money before you've delivered a product).
Somebody pilfered a lot of this "Fyre Band" money that went towards festival concessions that don't exist. Guaranteed. Not to mention ridiculous ticket price transactions that have already gone into shady accounts months ago from rich people who can afford to take the hit, and in many cases those people probably won't go through the hassle of chasing a refund or suing. As hard as it is to believe, some people lose 150,000 like you and I lose a nickel in the couch.
ive seen it happen before, multiple times. the promoter, a delusional idiot, starts off actually trying to do an event, takes a lot of money in ticket sales, promises a lot of money to other people, gets halfway through, realises its impossible and theyve bitten off way more than they can chew, and they think:
"hmmm, i could pay back all this money, break all the contracts ive signed with the various bands and contractors, and destroy my reputation forever, but that would destroy my ego so badly i'd literally have to kill myself. OR i could get daddies accountant to help me keep the cash, or use it to pay back my debts from the last time I did a stupid fucking thing like this, and declare bankruptcy and lie my way out of it, which will be really easy because i'm a fucking sociopath."
if theyre not a rich kid then they just skip the country.
people who plan from the beginning to outright steal money dont go to all this crazy effort, they just do tax scams with fake building projects or whatever. maybe some of his investors knew what was really up, but I dont believe this kid planned from the outset to rip people off. i dont think he planned anything at all tbh, beyond “Let’s just do it and be legends, man” because hes a fucking retard.
The line between scam and idiocy is often blurrier than people give it credit for, especially in situations like this where there's helpful servings of both.
I was defining scam to mean they ran with the money and made no attempt to throw the festival. Arguing definitions on the internet is very boring though, so I'm gonna stop
Now, I'm sure that what are my chances saying this in this den of solipsism, but if you you try to imagine your proposed explanation from the organizers' point of view, it would look rather like that Key and Peele sketch about robbing a bank, only with them additionally planning to get fired for drinking at work halfway in.
A scam is a scam, you collect your marks' money then disappear into the sunset with it. You don't spend a shitton of effort and those same money on stuff like actually trying to arrange tents and shit after the marks already gave you the money. That's counterproductive.
Napalm is cheaper and they will suffer more, don't count out good old white phosphorus. We got a shit ton of experience with Willie Pete in Vietnam. Its very efficient.
On Wednesday, Ja Rule arrived for a “site visit.” I don’t know if he actually visited the “site” but he did spend a lot of time on a yacht, according to his Instagram. Meanwhile the event planners were holed up indoors putting together a game plan and a budget. With so little having been prepared ahead of time, the official verdict was that it would take $50 million to pull off. Planners also warned that it would be not be up to the standard they had advertised. The best idea, they said, would be to roll everyone’s tickets over to 2018 and start planning for the next year immediately. They had a meeting with the Fyre execs to deliver the news. A guy from the marketing team said, “Let’s just do it and be legends, man.”
Yeah rapidly building a temporary city in the desert is super easy, right? Because the army corps of engineers don't seem that organised when they do it, they just wander around in flip flops, making it up as they go along, right? And the cities they build are deluxe-luxury accommodation, not barebones tents, yeah? What could go wrong????
Not gonna lie, I love watching easily avoidable bad things happen to """elite millenials""" (lol what the fuck) coastal trustafarians my same age and demographic.
the water looked beautiful — but I was almost immediately warned not to go near it because of a rampant shark problem. That was an omen I regrettably missed.
I'm sorry guys. We failed you. The plan was to take two thousand of the world's most useless people, strand them on an unescapeable island surrounded by shark-flolled waters, and let Darwinism take its course. The sole survivor - the one who had a survival instinct strong enough to shock them out of their pathetic trust-find life - would be allowed to return to society, having learned a valuable lesson.
But we screwed up. Somehow, word got out too soon, before we could spring the trap. We failed you all, and for that, we apologize.
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n/a mystupidaccount22 2017-04-29
https://news.vice.com/story/fyre-festivals-25-year-old-organizer-this-is-the-worst-day-of-my-life
n/a SmurfPrivilege 2017-04-29
Is that considered out of the norm for reality/IG stars?
n/a subpoutine 2017-04-29
I think some US agency (FCC?) came out with guidelines that it's illegal to not be upfront about making paid ads with your social media accounts. IIRC some YouTubers got in trouble for not being above-board about paid ads.
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n/a mystupidaccount22 2017-04-29
Hope Trump's FCC fixes that soon.
n/a Senator_Chickpea 2017-04-29
I believe it's the FTC
n/a SxsyLeaf 2017-04-29
lol...
n/a Allanon_2020 2017-04-29
Building a city can't be that hard right guys?
n/a skeetsurfing1984 2017-04-29
Just look at Rome, which was . . . oh wait.
n/a Senator_Chickpea 2017-04-29
Hey, Treblinka went up pretty quickly.
n/a JasonJewnova 2017-04-29
Oooooooooohh
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-04-29
Those guys knew how to run a camp
n/a Jonnoofcarltonnorth 2017-04-29
You can do anything ahead of time if you have expendable slave labour at your disposal...
n/a ieatpussy69 2017-04-29
But I have built a city. These festy sluts of Pharaoh will guard its gates, and it shall be the city of Ja Rule's glory.
n/a Habitual_Emigrant 2017-04-29
n/a Bureaucrat-72 2017-04-29
Don't worry guys. It's all Trump's fault. Those poor executives couldn't help themselves from grabbing the money and running.
n/a GARBAGE_MACHINE 2017-04-29
I love that these people are essentially redoing the "Thanks Obama" blanket blame for anything that goes wrong.
It just be wonderful to have such a lack of self awareness..
n/a Bureaucrat-72 2017-04-29
Make America Great Again
n/a eskachig 2017-04-29
I mean, nobody is actually blaming trump for anyone in that joke...
n/a shaneoffline 2017-04-29
I'm with them on this. It strikes me as the same kind of fuckwittism.
Promise them a big, beautiful, gorgeous
wallfestival all up until it actually has to happen, then act shocked at how very difficult no one could have predicted it being, and then promise them the next thing.Thanks Obama. If you had just lost to Hillary the first time 'round, we might have elected you now.
n/a fingerpaintswithpoop 2017-04-29
"Who knew planning parties was so complicated?"
n/a YHofSuburbia 2017-04-29
It was obviously just a little joke, no need to get this upset over to my dude
n/a Bureaucrat-72 2017-04-29
lol
n/a Cloacalla_Festival 2017-04-29
my dude
n/a crefakis 2017-04-29
just be a legend man
n/a takesteady12 2017-04-29
Didn't the other article mention that there are packs of feral dogs roaming the island? What the fuck is going on with this place?
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-04-29
It's a third world shithole, pretty obvious.
n/a takesteady12 2017-04-29
You would think that one of the first things the organizers would check for an outdoor music festival would be that there no dangerous wild animals roaming the venue.
n/a SamWhite 2017-04-29
Imagine if it had actually gone off. You'd have people fucked up on E thinking 'hey, wouldn't it be great to go skinny-dipping right now?' right before they get a chunk taken out of their leg.
n/a takesteady12 2017-04-29
Or coked out internet celebs trying to take selfies with a rabid dogs.
n/a Meatssacre 2017-04-29
The island is basically Far Cry 3 DLC
n/a LSU_Coonass 2017-04-29
You should probably look up the actual far cry 3 dlc
n/a Meatssacre 2017-04-29
I did and it gave me epilepsy. 10/10 would seisure again
n/a holditsteady 2017-04-29
probably quoting fake twitter posts
n/a takesteady12 2017-04-29
Cool user name brah
n/a holditsteady 2017-04-29
right back at cha
n/a SamWhite 2017-04-29
Sweet sign-off.
n/a AntiLuke 2017-04-29
Your comment is the only reason I actually read the article.
n/a grafton29 2017-04-29
Is it a good idea to talk about this? Event was a clusterfuck i would feel weird hiring someone who goes to blabber to the press so openly.
n/a SamWhite 2017-04-29
It doesn't sound like anyone involved at a hiring level was actually involved in the field, so it's not like he's fucking over future employers.
n/a grafton29 2017-04-29
I mean if future employers goggle his name this article is gonna come up.
n/a SamWhite 2017-04-29
Sure, but the thing was a clusterfuck of people not involved in the field wanting to pay him less than he was promised, I think those actually in the field will recognise the shitty situation he was put in. I mean, this is already infamous even for people who couldn't give a flying fuck about festivals.
n/a niexx 2017-04-29
people in the events industry will see this as a hilarious war story and sympathise with him.
n/a Tzcar 2017-04-29
I mean in the article it seems like they did all they could do, only quitting once his employer failed to honor their agreed upon wage. I think most people would've bailed after the marketing exec's comment (I would have).
n/a old_grumpy_grandpa 2017-04-29
And they will see the dude is smart, will call out obvious scams, and will cover his own ass. That is usually a good thing for the employer
n/a Hellkyte 2017-04-29
This event is going to go down as a historic example of how to fuck up in this industry. The only thing that an employee of this shit show would be judged for would be being stupid enough to stay on once the writing was on the wall.
n/a TonyFuckingDanza 2017-04-29
Why does everyone keep calling this thing a "disaster" like it was some kind of oopsie! mistake?
It was a scam. Some shady people stole a lot of money.
n/a AntiLuke 2017-04-29
Hanlon's razor.
n/a niexx 2017-04-29
i wouldnt be so sure. this happens surprisingly often, it just usually doesnt involve '''''celebrities''''', rich kids etc so it doesnt make the news.
a lot of people seem do a couple of succesful events in nightclubs, and think they can jump to doing outdoor events without really considering what that entails. the fact that they did it in some third world country means there was no licensing authority asking them difficult health and safety questions which would stop this kind of thing in the US or europe before it started.
plus hes a silicon valley exec and you know what theyre like with interpreting their own luck/class advantage as genius.
n/a TonyFuckingDanza 2017-04-29
Dude. Acts were booked, but not paid. Ticket-holders were hounded by email to pre-load their "Fyre Bands" with thousands of dollars before-hand "because it's a no-cash event".
When you book acts with no intention of paying them, and also don't build any of the shit you were charging for and advertising (including the stage), you are really just building the impression that a festival is going to happen so that people (ticket holders) will "invest" in it (give you money before you've delivered a product).
Somebody pilfered a lot of this "Fyre Band" money that went towards festival concessions that don't exist. Guaranteed. Not to mention ridiculous ticket price transactions that have already gone into shady accounts months ago from rich people who can afford to take the hit, and in many cases those people probably won't go through the hassle of chasing a refund or suing. As hard as it is to believe, some people lose 150,000 like you and I lose a nickel in the couch.
n/a niexx 2017-04-29
ive seen it happen before, multiple times. the promoter, a delusional idiot, starts off actually trying to do an event, takes a lot of money in ticket sales, promises a lot of money to other people, gets halfway through, realises its impossible and theyve bitten off way more than they can chew, and they think:
"hmmm, i could pay back all this money, break all the contracts ive signed with the various bands and contractors, and destroy my reputation forever, but that would destroy my ego so badly i'd literally have to kill myself. OR i could get daddies accountant to help me keep the cash, or use it to pay back my debts from the last time I did a stupid fucking thing like this, and declare bankruptcy and lie my way out of it, which will be really easy because i'm a fucking sociopath."
if theyre not a rich kid then they just skip the country.
people who plan from the beginning to outright steal money dont go to all this crazy effort, they just do tax scams with fake building projects or whatever. maybe some of his investors knew what was really up, but I dont believe this kid planned from the outset to rip people off. i dont think he planned anything at all tbh, beyond “Let’s just do it and be legends, man” because hes a fucking retard.
n/a StrategicSarcasm 2017-04-29
The line between scam and idiocy is often blurrier than people give it credit for, especially in situations like this where there's helpful servings of both.
n/a holditsteady 2017-04-29
seems like they created the website and ad campaign before planning anything, and failed miserably at logistics.
n/a TonyFuckingDanza 2017-04-29
You just described a scam.
People design websites and ad campaigns for time-share resorts that don't exist all the time. It's called stealing money from stupid people.
n/a holditsteady 2017-04-29
I was defining scam to mean they ran with the money and made no attempt to throw the festival. Arguing definitions on the internet is very boring though, so I'm gonna stop
n/a Works_of_memercy 2017-04-29
Now, I'm sure that what are my chances saying this in this den of solipsism, but if you you try to imagine your proposed explanation from the organizers' point of view, it would look rather like that Key and Peele sketch about robbing a bank, only with them additionally planning to get fired for drinking at work halfway in.
A scam is a scam, you collect your marks' money then disappear into the sunset with it. You don't spend a shitton of effort and those same money on stuff like actually trying to arrange tents and shit after the marks already gave you the money. That's counterproductive.
n/a Hellkyte 2017-04-29
That makes them smart.
n/a holditsteady 2017-04-29
it's just good business folks
n/a MillionDollarCheese 2017-04-29
Should have nuked the island.
n/a MG87 2017-04-29
How the hell is Ja Rule considered an "Infuencer" at this point?
n/a TonyFuckingDanza 2017-04-29
He's not.
n/a JakeArrietaGrande 2017-04-29
People keep asking for his opinion on every breaking news event.
n/a Chin_Up_Chick 2017-04-29
Who is he
n/a Tzcar 2017-04-29
Accurate, I doubt most millennial even know who Ja Rule is.
n/a JayrassicPark 2017-04-29
WHAT'S MY MUTHAFUCKIN' NAME??
(AR YOU EL E)
n/a antihexe 2017-04-29
He's not. By influencers they mean the f list instagram "celebrities" who get paid to shill for shit no one needs and all around be fake as hell.
n/a RagdollPhysEd 2017-04-29
He isn't. But MONICAAA is
n/a -Princeps- 2017-04-29
trump should have saved the MOAB
n/a nicethingyoucanthave 2017-04-29
See, I assumed the plan was to build the wall so they couldn't get back in.
n/a c3h8pro 2017-04-29
Napalm is cheaper and they will suffer more, don't count out good old white phosphorus. We got a shit ton of experience with Willie Pete in Vietnam. Its very efficient.
n/a takaci 2017-04-29
I can't believe they didn't make any of the staff sign NDAs...
n/a bleepis 2017-04-29
this is brilliant. its a containment island for the worst of the cumskin subspecies. thank god
n/a mystupidaccount22 2017-04-29
Should've left them stranded on the island to see how long it took for them to turn to cannibalism.
n/a IvankaTrumpIsMyWaifu 2017-04-29
Should have MOAB'ed the island, I would have donated
$1$1.50 to that cause, who will match me?n/a eskachig 2017-04-29
Fucking love it.
n/a GARBAGE_MACHINE 2017-04-29
I can't believe it didn't work out tbh..
n/a quinotauri 2017-04-29
Worked exactly as Mr Marketing called it
n/a ganner 2017-04-29
It's certainly legendary.
n/a mystupidaccount22 2017-04-29
n/a eskachig 2017-04-29
Oh that is even cringier than I imagined.
n/a niexx 2017-04-29
Yeah rapidly building a temporary city in the desert is super easy, right? Because the army corps of engineers don't seem that organised when they do it, they just wander around in flip flops, making it up as they go along, right? And the cities they build are deluxe-luxury accommodation, not barebones tents, yeah? What could go wrong????
n/a eskachig 2017-04-29
He's shitty at that too.
n/a TrailerParkBride 2017-04-29
Not gonna lie, I love watching easily avoidable bad things happen to
"""elite millenials"""(lol what the fuck) coastal trustafarians my same age and demographic.n/a mystupidaccount22 2017-04-29
This is my fetish.
n/a TrailerParkBride 2017-04-29
^ This but unironically
n/a neutralvoter 2017-04-29
"this is what fyre festival was supposed to look like"
The thumbnail is a man in a bikini... i mean... i guess it looks fun.
n/a ne99ne 2017-04-29
lol!
n/a Mabans 2017-04-29
I always find it funny how people who know stuff will turn out bad never warn others, especially when touting how they never made you sign an NDA.
n/a wolfdreams01 2017-04-29
I'm sorry guys. We failed you. The plan was to take two thousand of the world's most useless people, strand them on an unescapeable island surrounded by shark-flolled waters, and let Darwinism take its course. The sole survivor - the one who had a survival instinct strong enough to shock them out of their pathetic trust-find life - would be allowed to return to society, having learned a valuable lesson.
But we screwed up. Somehow, word got out too soon, before we could spring the trap. We failed you all, and for that, we apologize.
n/a JayrassicPark 2017-04-29
“To living like movie stars, partying like rock stars, and fucking like porn stars.”
I mean, you ARE a porn star if you get fucked as hard as every fucking yuppie involved in this.
n/a crefakis 2017-04-29
Wow rude