It's not even worth it with Libertarians - have had the battle a million times, at this point its for my own enjoyment.
I just want a single one to come up with a decent argument, but I guess that's like asking a science-denier to explain the science behind denying Climate Change lol
Not fully, closest candidate during the election though.
I believe in a society of checks and balances that takes care of its citizens on the baseline and allows well regulated competition for those who seek to aim higher and afford luxuries. I believe in a government that acts as an efficient extension of the will of the people counteracted by a private sector also kept in check by the people so long as both branches do not get overtaken by greedy, self-interested individuals.
Holy SHIT we got a Neolibtm over here! Wtf do you mean we can't just burn all the banks down and literally eat rich people? I did not sign up for this pre-apocalypse bullshit.
Lol! I was being sarcastic and you're bad at understanding this sub.
Also, you hate them as much as people who literally think it's cool for kids to be prostitutes? Damn I want whatever equivalency distorting brain drugs you got.
Idgaf debating the libertarians. It all started on a sub where I made fun of Libertarians on an issue which got linked to r/shitpoliticssays which I guess got linked seemlessly to drama without me even noticing.
I've just been having a grand ol time laughing at economic extremists once it snowballed is all.
Don't really care but am definitely argumentative and have had some time relaxing with the family.
Pull yourself away from the screen, dude. There's nothing for you here in r/drama except untold levels of autism and fuckery the likes of which all of Reddit despises yet adores. It's a mad house, I tell you! A MAD HOUSE!
idk why we let scientists work on problems other than figuring out how to bring lenin back to life. more proof that capitalism is a failed ideology, i guess
Mr. Tugan repeats the old trick of the reactionaries: first to misinterpret socialism by making it out to be an absurdity, and then to triumphantly refute the absurdity! When we say that experience and reason prove that men are not equal, we mean by equality, equality in abilities or similarity in physical strength and mental ability.
If Lenin had said this today, he'd actually be branded a fascist by modern commies.
Lol communism is anarchism without classism. It will never happen and is delusional like AnCap but pray tell how that is worse than slavery or wage slavery in Free Market Capitalism?
"Omg I'm beholden to no one and am free to do as I please and no one in society has the right or means to oppress me I'm such a slave!"
Compared to
"I'm born into debt because my parents rent a house so I'm born having to justify my existence to a landlord as opposed to Timmy who was born into wealth and has the means of production to start whatever business he wants and exploit workers to make money through profits off of them while underpaying them"
Because the first will never happen but is communism and the second DOES happen and we haven't even made it to full free market (though the few times we've gotten close like the late 1800s were so abysmal they had to invent entire government agencies to stop the heinous action like the creation of the FDA and more rights for unions to protect from greedy ass hats with too much power)
It's cute how they pretend it's a democracy too.
Two delusional extremist economic ideologies for two groups of undereducated morons who don't live in reality with the rest of us.
I mean I am but I don't care if internet people know? Hahaha I'm so confused by how invested in this you are lol I'm just responding on my phone and not even giving this much thought at this point :P
I'm sure hey do believe it. I just don't care. Over here on my phone enjoying Mother's Day. If people comment I'll respond. Dk why you're getting so worked up or even care ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Lol clearly not since I'm laughing at the ridiculous interest in my og post. And I am I'm just checking the phone every once and a while lol < ya triggered?
You could always pretend you aren't so involved and just not respond idgaf I just respond to most comments on Reddit.
Very much so, and OP gets special bonus points for that awkward link with bad use of pronoun antecedents. Goddamn, /u/liberatorfalcon, learn how to write.
I think that whenever I see exchanges like this. If you're getting really heated up in comments on Reddit/FB/whatever you should not post that comment. No one cares, it won't change anybodies mind and it'll be all around terrible.
Communism is evil. It lives off the idea that you exist so you must be provided for. Whilst in capitalism trade has to exist, in other words I need food Mr Farmer and you need some weed. Lets trade!
Either way, you're just an insecure fag who clearly has a thing for some disgusting communist girl you know personally
I'm not a communist at all I think they're just as fucking stupid as An Caps because they are. They read Communist Manifesto or Atlas Shrugged and never grew up like the rest of us.
Cracks me the fuck up you don't even know what communism is. All it is is anarchism where everyone owns the means of production instead of individuals stealing it through force then demanding others pay for them to use it or go into debt for it.
Both extremist viewpoints take away freedom. The funniest part is you actually think free market capitalism is freer when all it does is allow employers to oppress you, and mean you are born into debt unless born into wealth.
The argument is wasted on you because like the communists you clearly don't even have a surface level understanding of economics or society at all.
Go join a game of Monopoly mid game with debt and all the properties are owned and tell me how "free" you are and maybe we can start your first grade education to "real world 101" to help flush out that kool aid you've been drinking.
I actually did once join a game of monopoly once in that situation. I just created a new rule where by I could build on green belt and overcharge everything. I placed the property strategically as the place where most people land. Won the game, although I must admit I did steal everyone else money when they where not looking.
And how dare you say wasted on me! I am amazing.
Also, did you hook up with that commie girl? Trust man her pussy will be stinking
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n/a Holdin_McGroin 2017-05-13
/u/thestrugglesreal is just a teenager, leave him alone
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
Lol here I am just waiting for a proper rebuttal while laughing my ass off at the right wing economic extremists.
Don't worry, I do the same to the communists with their comparable, but less selfish delusions.
All hail Ayn Rand amiright guys? lol
n/a Holdin_McGroin 2017-05-13
Saying "hahahahahaha" in every post only shows your insecurity, baby.
n/a 80BAIT08 2017-05-13
Yeah uh... Really looked like it!
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
hoo boy, and you thin I care?
It's not even worth it with Libertarians - have had the battle a million times, at this point its for my own enjoyment.
I just want a single one to come up with a decent argument, but I guess that's like asking a science-denier to explain the science behind denying Climate Change lol
n/a SlavophilesAnonymous 2017-05-13
So what's your poison? Berniecrat?
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
Not fully, closest candidate during the election though.
I believe in a society of checks and balances that takes care of its citizens on the baseline and allows well regulated competition for those who seek to aim higher and afford luxuries. I believe in a government that acts as an efficient extension of the will of the people counteracted by a private sector also kept in check by the people so long as both branches do not get overtaken by greedy, self-interested individuals.
n/a CirqueDuFuder 2017-05-13
Private sector? Disgusting liberal.
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
XD love it
n/a khanfusion 2017-05-13
Holy SHIT we got a Neolibtm over here! Wtf do you mean we can't just burn all the banks down and literally eat rich people? I did not sign up for this pre-apocalypse bullshit.
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
Lol! Apparently you can't read for shit because you would have deduced I hate neo libs as much as I hate An Caps and An Coms.
n/a khanfusion 2017-05-13
Lol! I was being sarcastic and you're bad at understanding this sub.
Also, you hate them as much as people who literally think it's cool for kids to be prostitutes? Damn I want whatever equivalency distorting brain drugs you got.
n/a Choozadoodle 2017-05-13
Man, this high schooler has really figured out the world, guys
n/a jubbergun 2017-05-13
Why you gotta bring my weight into it?
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
Personally I think you're both beautiful AND stunning.
n/a jubbergun 2017-05-13
This was the only correct answer.
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-05-13
Why do you want equality brohan? People aren't equal and never will be equal, get over it.
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
Like literally there's no reason to respond to this XD
But
"Why do you want democracy Broham? People don't have power and they never will, get over it!"
Said the reactionary grumpy outdated losers
Might as well have added "if you can't beat the immoral, join em!"
n/a FrostBittenSalsa 2017-05-13
So if what you're saying is true why are you here trying so hard to use the "Idgaf" defense?
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
Idgaf debating the libertarians. It all started on a sub where I made fun of Libertarians on an issue which got linked to r/shitpoliticssays which I guess got linked seemlessly to drama without me even noticing.
I've just been having a grand ol time laughing at economic extremists once it snowballed is all.
Don't really care but am definitely argumentative and have had some time relaxing with the family.
n/a FrostBittenSalsa 2017-05-13
Pull yourself away from the screen, dude. There's nothing for you here in r/drama except untold levels of autism and fuckery the likes of which all of Reddit despises yet adores. It's a mad house, I tell you! A MAD HOUSE!
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
I'm out! Thanks for the advice :P Idk how I got linked to 2 different subs without me even realizing at first! XD Have a good one!
n/a Thhueros 2017-05-13
This but unironically
n/a Thhueros 2017-05-13
When you claim to be a socialist but unironically believe in liberal hyperbole of socialism.
n/a glmox 2017-05-13
idk why we let scientists work on problems other than figuring out how to bring lenin back to life. more proof that capitalism is a failed ideology, i guess
n/a khanfusion 2017-05-13
We let scientists work on problems?
n/a glmox 2017-05-13
well not know that daddy's in charge but you know
n/a Holdin_McGroin 2017-05-13
If Lenin had said this today, he'd actually be branded a fascist by modern commies.
n/a 80BAIT08 2017-05-13
Yeah uh... Really looked like it!
n/a nanonan 2017-05-13
Do you believe slavery is evil? Communism is worse, at least slaves have a chance of emancipation.
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
Lol communism is anarchism without classism. It will never happen and is delusional like AnCap but pray tell how that is worse than slavery or wage slavery in Free Market Capitalism?
"Omg I'm beholden to no one and am free to do as I please and no one in society has the right or means to oppress me I'm such a slave!"
Compared to
"I'm born into debt because my parents rent a house so I'm born having to justify my existence to a landlord as opposed to Timmy who was born into wealth and has the means of production to start whatever business he wants and exploit workers to make money through profits off of them while underpaying them"
Because the first will never happen but is communism and the second DOES happen and we haven't even made it to full free market (though the few times we've gotten close like the late 1800s were so abysmal they had to invent entire government agencies to stop the heinous action like the creation of the FDA and more rights for unions to protect from greedy ass hats with too much power)
It's cute how they pretend it's a democracy too.
Two delusional extremist economic ideologies for two groups of undereducated morons who don't live in reality with the rest of us.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-05-13
Post bussy faggot.
n/a Dial_A_Dragon 2017-05-13
http://i.imgur.com/9kfqXq5.gif
n/a gilmore606 2017-05-13
are you aware no one wants to hear the words of teenagers
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
Hmm well I'm not one and for some reason you're messaging me. So you could just stop? Or provide something meaningful to say?
I doubt you'll do either so do you man. No ones stopping you. Welcome to the internet.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-05-13
No bussy; pls go
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
Please grow up and get a real ideology.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-05-13
You're more of a dipshit than I thought.
What ideaology is it that likes bussy?
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
Well you're exactly the amount of dipshit I thought. Pick your juvenile idiotic extremist ideology: communism or Anarcho Capitalism.
Clearly you're one of those two forms of stupid.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-05-13
Because I think you're an overflowing lolcow?
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
Is that what the kids these days say? Lolcow? Man insults have gone downhill since the 90s.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-05-13
Didn't you just use "stupid" as an insult?
n/a Fiery1Phoenix 2017-05-13
I am pretty sure hes neither. But you are provided lots of milk
n/a pepperouchau 2017-05-13
whatever it is sign me the fuck up
n/a Cloacalla_Festival 2017-05-13
Tranarchy
n/a strathmeyer 2017-05-13
Communism is the opposite of anarchism. One is about freedom, the other strives to take that freedom away.
n/a Jacksambuck 2017-05-13
lol you fucking hahaha no way we're lol face boyy XD amiright why ass lol
n/a OnePercentOfMonster 2017-05-13
But you're not actually laughing. Do you think anybody believes you're laughing?
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
I mean I am but I don't care if internet people know? Hahaha I'm so confused by how invested in this you are lol I'm just responding on my phone and not even giving this much thought at this point :P
n/a OnePercentOfMonster 2017-05-13
Nobody is more invested in this than you are. Do you think anybody believes you aren't super invested in this?
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
I'm sure hey do believe it. I just don't care. Over here on my phone enjoying Mother's Day. If people comment I'll respond. Dk why you're getting so worked up or even care ¯_(ツ)_/¯
n/a OnePercentOfMonster 2017-05-13
You're the only one worked up, stop projecting. Put the phone down and spend some time with your mom. The Internet arguments can wait.
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
Lol clearly not since I'm laughing at the ridiculous interest in my og post. And I am I'm just checking the phone every once and a while lol < ya triggered?
You could always pretend you aren't so involved and just not respond idgaf I just respond to most comments on Reddit.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-05-13
You're a hell of a lot more pathetic than you seem to realize.
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
Yes. I judge my self worth on the opinions of an invisible internet person who is way too invested in my opinions XD hoo boy.
I hope you're having fun with your family too at least.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-05-13
Ummm you aren't. You've been commenting for the entire weekend, pretending you aren't getting progressively angrier, which you obviously are.
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
Lol ah yes so obviously furious. I'm actually eating fancy cheese and crackers with the fam.
Like I said I reply to all comments on Reddit. At this point I'm just entertained by your commitment and waiting to see when you bail.
Does your mom know you have a weird obsession with internet people you don't know?
XD
Just had some bomb smoked Gouda on one of those tollhouse flips crackers with the pretzel on the one side.
About to try the goat
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-05-13
You know what I do when I'm totally not upset about something? Comment about it for an entire weekend instead of enjoying my weekend.
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
Man you're getting personal with a complete stranger aren'tcha
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-05-13
You mean like writing 1000 word comments about my political beliefs?
n/a I_smell_like_bacon 2017-05-13
Stop starting your sentences with "LOL" you fucking faggot.
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
Haha what are you, six?
You still care what some random internet person says? At this point you're just enhancing whatever "drama" is getting the sub off.
We slinging insults? Aight. You cock-juggling thundercunt
n/a I_smell_like_bacon 2017-05-13
Leftard uses "What are you, (age)" retort. That's original.
Go be a fag somewhere else.
n/a saint2e 2017-05-13
I remember in grade 10 when I discovered the awesomeness that was communism. Then I took history and economics and it cleared right up.
n/a thajugganuat 2017-05-13
There's no real enjoyment in seeing a libertarian be smug about an ideology that is just as dumb
n/a Orsonius 2017-05-13
Everyone arguing there is fucking dumb
n/a khanfusion 2017-05-13
Very much so, and OP gets special bonus points for that awkward link with bad use of pronoun antecedents. Goddamn, /u/liberatorfalcon, learn how to write.
n/a xvertigox 2017-05-13
I think that whenever I see exchanges like this. If you're getting really heated up in comments on Reddit/FB/whatever you should not post that comment. No one cares, it won't change anybodies mind and it'll be all around terrible.
n/a lesboautisticweeabo 2017-05-13
/u/thestrugglesreal
Communism is evil. It lives off the idea that you exist so you must be provided for. Whilst in capitalism trade has to exist, in other words I need food Mr Farmer and you need some weed. Lets trade!
Either way, you're just an insecure fag who clearly has a thing for some disgusting communist girl you know personally
n/a thestrugglesreal 2017-05-13
lol you're fucking stupid as fuck.
I'm not a communist at all I think they're just as fucking stupid as An Caps because they are. They read Communist Manifesto or Atlas Shrugged and never grew up like the rest of us.
Cracks me the fuck up you don't even know what communism is. All it is is anarchism where everyone owns the means of production instead of individuals stealing it through force then demanding others pay for them to use it or go into debt for it.
Both extremist viewpoints take away freedom. The funniest part is you actually think free market capitalism is freer when all it does is allow employers to oppress you, and mean you are born into debt unless born into wealth.
The argument is wasted on you because like the communists you clearly don't even have a surface level understanding of economics or society at all.
Go join a game of Monopoly mid game with debt and all the properties are owned and tell me how "free" you are and maybe we can start your first grade education to "real world 101" to help flush out that kool aid you've been drinking.
n/a lesboautisticweeabo 2017-05-13
I actually did once join a game of monopoly once in that situation. I just created a new rule where by I could build on green belt and overcharge everything. I placed the property strategically as the place where most people land. Won the game, although I must admit I did steal everyone else money when they where not looking.
And how dare you say wasted on me! I am amazing.
Also, did you hook up with that commie girl? Trust man her pussy will be stinking
n/a Fiery1Phoenix 2017-05-13
But she shares it with everyone
n/a khanfusion 2017-05-13
Capitalism did not invent trade, and is not even the most efficient model for trade, so....
n/a Cloacalla_Festival 2017-05-13
reeeeeeeeeee
n/a khanfusion 2017-05-13
STURP DONVOTTIN DA LOLCOW
I am fitting in.
n/a I_smell_like_bacon 2017-05-13
You'll never fit in.