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Narrated Anas:Some people from the tribe of 'Ukl came to the Prophet and embraced Islam. The climate of Medina did not suit them, so the Prophet ordered them to go to the (herd of milch) camels of charity and to drink, their milk and urine (as a medicine). Sahih Bukhari 8:82:794

Drink up, lads

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OK we will leave this controversial thing to the big guys ( I'd they make mistakes or not).

Someone take this hothead outta here! Or in here, as it stands. And that someone is me, hopefully.

By the way, /u/scorpionma, does Islam have the same sort of interesting body of interpretations of various hadiths as Judaism? I mean, the stuff like this, for example.

Someone take this hothead outta here! Or in here, as it stands. And that someone is me, hopefully.

i dont really know what you mean by that? What i meant is the subject that all prophets does not sin or make mistakes is a controversial thing as some mufites says yes and some no < I'm saying a 17 years old guy like me is not in a place to do such thing as there are a lot more knowledgeable mufties and judges out there better than me .
And i didnt really understand your second part please repeat that

Oh, you're too nice.

1. I was making fun about the "the big guys" part (not of it, mind you), because it happened to accidentally match a certain internet meme that I find funny: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/baneposting

2. I think the other guy with his example about cross-pollination of figs demonstrated that you are wrong. And whatever muftis who might say otherwise and declare that the Prophet (pbuh) was literally infallible in everything are probably the radical kind that you should stay away from. And that decision is yours to make, you can't rely on muftis to tell you which muftis you should be listening to, obviously.

3. I'm not a Jew but I'm fascinated with the part of Judaism where the rabbis try to figure what's right about stuff based on convoluted reasoning. The thing I linked was them seriously discussing whether anal-self-penetration is a sin, and if so, how exactly. But there's less ridiculous and much more interesting stuff, as I told here for example. I was wondering if there's something like that in Islam.

1. OH im sorry I didn't know about that meme sorry about that..
   2.yes I told Jim he was right ajdi was wrong , i misunderstood what I heard earlier I apologised to that man.
   3.please don't take my word for this as I'm not so good at this but I don't think there are detailed stuff about such things , we use qiyas and ijmaa , for example :Is smoking X drug haram? The Quran did not say anything about x drug but Harming yourself is haram and for that using that drug is haram . v Again , I am not very sure about y answer you should seek information from better people

There are books of commentary on hadith in Arabic and possibly other Islamic languages like Urdu and Persian. Fath al-Bari is a famous commentary of Sahih al-Bukhari.

I have no doubt some of this may have been or still maybe necessary for desert survival back in the day, but when I say "I'm a conservative as long as what's been conserved is useful" (tbh I've never actually said that but thought it), this is exactly what I mean.

An element of conservatism is that the usefulness of things is proven by their longevity though.

But that's not really true. Plenty of things have been conserved for a long time that weren't useful, such as feudalism. And there is things are useful when the context (as in this instance, being in a desert) stays the same for a long time, but then the context changes (modern medicine and water extraction techniques) and they are no longer useful.

Feudalism was pretty useful in a lot of ways. Drinking camel urine is not, especially not in a desert climate.

It was useful in many ways, but if that Greek who invented the steam engine realized it was useful for work and not just a novelty toy, feudalism could've been ended 2000 years early.

The aelopile kinda was just a novelty toy. Power output wasn't high enough and slaves were much cheaper. Also feudalism comes from fortifications and political collapse and I don't see how steam engines would avert that.

No but if the guy thought "hmmm, steam makes thing spin" he could've developed a steam engine based on it. Also, feudalism isn't really possible with steam engines. Kinda like if that Aztec who discovered the wheel and thought it was a novelty toy touhgt "hmm, this can make heavy thing move".

To get worthwhile power, you'd need significant advances in metallurgy that wouldn't happen until the end of the Medieval Era.

This would imply Greeks would work harder anyway.

Yes I know, but you have to realise that you are rejecting a component of traditional conservative thought, that being that something's longevity proves its worth to society.

Human urine is too salty to hydrate you.

I would imagine camel piss to be worse in this regard.

Not if you distill, although I don't know if that's what they do.

SO THIS IS THE GOLDEN AGE OF ISLAM AGAIN

Get it ? Get it ?

Religion of piss

Is the Hadith less boring then the Quran because the Quran is so fucking boring

It's less boring but generally more vicious. The real violence of Mo is in the hadith.

The Quran is basically a legal textbook for illiterate desert dwellers. The Hadiths are shitty Muhammed fan-fics. If you're looking for that sweet spiritual ecstasy you should start with the Shia/Sufi poetry.

Avoid Arab and Sunni stuff, bunch of STEM-fags who only care about the profane. Leave the matters of the soul to the Indo-Aryans.

Sufi pride worldwide

people are wrong when they say that the quran is violent. it's really the hadith that has some messed up things. some muslims will argue that it's inauthentic and stuff so yeah. some muslims nowadays seem to care more about the hadith than the quran

Yeah the Quran only says stuff like:

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah"

Or:

"...For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.... And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone)"

In other words, lets stone the gays to death and kill all the unbelievers. Not violent at all no.

yeah but you're taking it out of context. what about the crusades?

About them: we need another one

Im not taking anything out of context.

And what do the crusades have to do with this? Just because christianity is also awful does not mean the Quran is suddenly a nice and friendly book.

The Crusades were a response to Muslim attacks on European countries.

Former muslim here, hadith is more interesting, it talks alot about jihad, when I was younger I found that stuff to be interesting

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brown people lol

what if camel piss is the fountain of youth

im gonna smile when the abrasaxs harvest you

just me in particular or like, in general

yes

Islam is the religion of piss?

We can drink camel urine but how but camel bussy, is it halal

There is nothing in the Quran or hadith that condems bestiality. So yes.

This is a post about Islam I can actually read without cringing (in the usual ways). Well done OP.

nice post op