u/Conquestofbaguettes being a sociology grad is less respected than a tarot card reader. What's it like to spend 4 years in college to get a degree that qualifies you for starbucks barista
You got to get your PhD in sociology, then you can get that sweet sociology professorship and brainwash I mean teach students about how communism isn't bad, has never been tried and how we live in a patriarchy. It's the circle of sociology
His or her college degree was a complete waste of time which is why they are anarchist/communist. Also where the fuck do you think they learned that an ideology that has been an absolute disaster and crime against humanity is a good idea.
Really, I just linked that 20% of social science professors are commies. Seriously where the hell do you think communist thought is coming. I had no idea hating communism was right wing, let me call my parents who lived in the ussr what they think. And dragging arguments out of subs is a big part of this sub it's on the sidebar
The entire field has been polluted by far left wackos who dominate academia which isn't a surprise since its a factory constantly putting out more wackos who go from bachelor's degrees to PhDs to teaching. They never left for the real world and embrace the cult. Maybe it was worth something 40 yrs ago but at this point it's a joke.
I'm not even a feminist. This is just common sense.
But there's always this sad opposition to even the most basic facts about life... especially online... these people that want to think that THEY ALONE know the secret truth about things.
Apparently not being an unrepentant fucking idiot and fake alpha on the internet means I am a pussy libcuck or whatever the foreveralones think. It's pretty hilarious.
What kind of juice do you make? Hows the weight loss going?
I know what you mean, I always try and preach the truth, like for example women having a lower median IQ, and estrogen making women more emotional and prone to irrationality and the dummies always fight me on it. I guess the truth hurts.
And wrong juice bud, speaking of which I gotta go and inject my self with 100% pure toxic masculinity.
Hey lazy monkey, /u/Conquestofbaguettes, if USSR wasn't communist, then why do communists say that kulaks deserved everything that they got? Why defend something that allegedly isn't even part of your ideology? Why do people in /r/communsim defend USSR? Why defend Mao?
It's pretty obvious that USSR was communist, but the uncomfortable truths about the crimes they committed means that you try to distance yourself from it.
Because most people in red subs are white and middle-class americans, canadians and western europeans ( a minority there) , who know jack shit about life in USSR, but more importantly they don't understand a simple fact - hge road to their utopia would be paved with their dead bodies.
Why are there almost no shelters for male victims? And why is asking that question so controversial?
If I had to guess, it's because many more women are killed by male abusers than men killed by female abusers. It doesn't make the lack of access less fair, it just means people see men-on-women violence to be more of a threat. Also, the women tend to have the kids with them more often than the dad + kids fleeing from a female abuser, so that's probably why they have family shelters with no grown men allowed.
"I know that one of the worst genocides in human history is going on and Pol Pot just murdered 30 percent of the entire fucking population, but the US is performing another bombing campaign!"
Nixon should've had the CIA shoot that twat. Linguistics would've caught up without him, eventually.
In his defense, he was suspicious of the initial reports of Khmer Rouge atrocities and thought it must be a propoganda bamboozle. 30% of the population does sound farfetched. Turns out it was actually that bad.
I'd excuse it if it happened once and he apologized, but he keeps on denying genocides or endorsing people/books that deny genocides. He may be a genius in linguistics, but his commentary on geopolitics always boils down to "if there's an atrocity that the US is not involved in, then ignore this atrocity and instead focus on something the US is involved in".
He's like a teenage anarchist in a fossilized body.
u/Conquestofbaguettes I liked the part where you successfully recognized that the incidental use of the phrase "kept out of" as a colloquialism for "protected from" totally reveals subconscious biases on the part of the speaker, indicating that the protected class is really viewed as property without anyone actually making any such claim.
I have one question: have you considered the implications of this analysis, when applied to the fact that you consciously choose to use the effectively-made-up jargon (since it doesn't mean anything related to the etymology) "patriarchy", and explicitly blame it for all of society's ills? What would this amazing analytical technique tell you about how you really feel about men?
In my experience, being involved with feminist advocacy since adolescence and I'm hitting 40 this year, a lot of feminists call each other out so I don't have the experience of witnessing feminists turning a blind eye. Which of course does not mean it doesn't happen. Just that this hasn't been my experience.
IMX, feminists call each other out for failures of "intersectionality", but they turn a blind eye to things that actively hurt or malign men.
Wasn't Warren Farrel a feminist? Until he brought issues that hurt men, at which point he was tossed out and labelled an MRA and conflated with Red Pill and MGTOW.
Feminists don't ever stand up for men because the moment they do they're no longer feminists.
I'm sure your personal experience is all fun and dandy but it frankly doesn't mean shit when you hold it to what the largest and most influential self-proclaimed groups and institutions actually do and say
A waterfall of MRA/White Supremacist talking points doesn't refute anything. You can tapdance around what the post was actually about all you want, but it doesn't change anything.
As if women in the UK making more money in a certain sector debunks the facts about disproportionate income levels across the board in Canada. Do you know how information works? Anecdotes aren't magic.
Opioid addiction is because of depression? Really? And if that were true, that debunks the fact that natives and poor people don't have equal access to healthcare? What the fuuuuuuuck are you talking about?
That's not even the crux of the post. It's really about presenting the obvious stuff to internet assholes in denial about what victims they are.
I know you all think you have a job to do and HAVE to spread your crazy BS online, but you look pretty desperate and immature with posts like this.
Just a rambling, incoherent mess of lies and shoehorned in half-truths.
Opioid addiction is because of depression? Really?
Yes, really. Why would you find that remotely surprising? So is addiction to tranquilizers and other painkillers.
the fact that natives and poor people don't have equal access to healthcare?
TIL "poor people" doesn't overlap with "white men", somehow.
Literally the only thing preventing natives from having equal access to healthcare in Canada is physical, geographical distance. The ones who live in the city, whether or not they have a fixed address, are not being turned away from hospitals, nor are they any less capable of going to walk-in clinics than white people in the same area - walk-ins that will have posters everywhere explicitly laying out their non-discrimination policy, which includes proactively kicking out patients if they say something racist in the waiting room.
What the fuuuuuuuck are you talking about?
It's called observable, objective reality. The reality in which an actual indigenous person in that thread told you his story and you dismissed it and insulted him because it disagreed with your bullshit.
Just a rambling, incoherent mess of lies and shoehorned in half-truths.
Everything I said was completely true, and I can back it up.
Opioid addiction is not because of depression. Like you don't get depressed and then start doing opioids. It's far more complex than that. But you want a safe and easy reason to rage against women and minorities so you don't give a single shit about reality.
I actually don't have a clue what the fuck you are talking about. Of course white people can be poor. I was one most of my life.
Stop embarrassing yourself, internet know-it-all. You sound like an aggressive 15 year old with autism.
I have written a lot of well-thought posts reflecting on my real life experience and the edgelords just ignore it so they can keep shitposting someone else's ideas.
It's weird when you empathize with both sides and draw your own conclusion but get brigaded with the exact same angry talking points all the time.
So many of you come to reddit to find out what you're supposed to think about things. And get tricked into believing bullshit.
It's weird when you empathize with both sides and draw your own conclusion but get brigaded with the exact same angry talking points all the time.
You think you empathize with both sides? Earlier in this comment thread you accused a well-written, sourced post of being "White Supremacist talking points."
But I don't have an ideology, I couldn't even specifically identify what is and isn't marxist. How is it possible for me to be brainwashed by something I can't define or have experienced? That makes no sense unless you believe that all of society has been brainwashed by Marxists and at that point you're basically a red-faced lunatic screaming on a street corner.
One sign is when you start superfluously accusing your opponents of using racist talking points.
Because they are. That's what those bullet-point lists are about. Pretty much copy-pastas from the hell of the Internet posted by smug idiots with no real personal experience in the matter.
I'm no SJW. I'm just not a 20 year old fat, ignorant, virgin retard who's scared of women and minorities because I don't know what to do with how much I hate myself.
I have voted Reform, NDP, Green, Liberal. No joke.
I have seen it from every side and give my local candidates a chance to reach me with an open mind.
Which is why i find it really funny when I am accused of being a Marxist by 15 year olds that see all politics as a street fight between altr-right/nazis and antifa/SJWs.
Most substance abuses(food, alcohol, drugs, etc.) are related to some kind of depression or trauma that people can't get over. The actually addiction comes from the substance being addictive/personality traits towards addiction, but turning to substance abuse is a way to cope with life problems. Look more into the topic if you're interested.
What a stretch. That is not at all what people studying the opioid epidemic are concluding. Where did this come from?
Pretty sure it starts with prescription painkillers. It's easy to get addicted because of how naturally opiates work with the human body. After a few days people find it hard to kick it, and will continue using to deal with "the pain".
And when that Rx is cut off, some people go to the streets for their fix and it's a downward spiral from there.
Leave it to the best minds of reddit to relate it to male discrimination somehow. Jesus.
maybe depression means you are more likely to become addicted? I don't know. But what you are saying sounds like BS.
I never mentioned anything to do with male discrimination, I was talking about depression and trauma.
Pretty sure it starts with prescription painkillers.
Anything can be a "gateway drug". Addiction and overuse of those things are still substance abuse.
Most substance abuses(food, alcohol, drugs, etc.) are related to some kind of depression or trauma that people can't get over. The actually addiction comes from the substance being addictive/personality traits towards addiction, but turning to substance abuse is a way to cope with life problems. Look more into the topic if you're interested.
So now its all mental illness? I think that makes more sense.
That's not what was being suggested though. This was originally about men being depressed and no one caring, and then they turn to drugs on the street because of their depression.
So let's not move the goalposts once bullshit has been called.
The argument OP was making is what I decribed. That men are forgotten and ignored, and as such are becoming addicted due to their depression and no one cares about them.
Basically what was being suggested.
My comment back was that it's a lot more complex than just that and IT IS.
You don't get depressed and then pick up opiates. That's kinda dumb.
You don't get depressed and then pick up opiates. That's kinda dumb.
And my argument is that this is fundamentally wrong. A good chunk of people who are depressed turn to substance abuse to self medicate. Some people do it with food and get obese, some people do it alcohol, some people do it with opiates. I even linked a bunch of articles, one straight from the Anxiety and Depression Association of America which agrees with what I was saying.
Of course it's not a 1:1 causal relationship but to downplay the reality of "sad people" drinking/smoking their lives away is ridiculous. It's a huge trope that is mirrored by real life evidence.
Access through prescriptions is being cited as a major issue.
OP tried to make a case of men being neglected.
Having medical professionals grant you access to dangerous drugs, and then not having anyone subsequently check in on you when you end up self-medicating due to mental illness (which you also don't end up getting any direct help with), is being neglected.
True. OP (apparently, you mean me) was caring. You evidently don't care about people (like, not even enough to pay attention to usernames on the Internet).
Yeah, because putting that much effort into calling everyone you dislike or disagree with a far-right nazi white supremacist MRA etc. etc. etc. has absolutely nothing to do with establishing your own political position.
I also didn't blame white men.
Yeah, you didn't blame (((white men))), you only said that there's a system in place that benefits them and also happens to (((coincidentally))) have a lot of them in powerful places calling the shots. Ok.
Also,
I have watched minority friends get confronted by police in situation where they would have turned a blind eye if it were me.
Bullshit. I don't believe you. You are lying. I fucking dare you to do the same things they did, if you really think they'd ignore you.
Yeah, you didn't blame (((white men))), you only said that there's a system in place that benefits them and also happens to (((coincidentally))) have a lot of them in powerful places calling the shots. Ok.
So you admit you are lying about what I said? AKA strawmanning? Thanks for clearing it up.
And you contacted the relevant authorities to get your employer busted for violating employment law, right?
It's not against the law to make more than your coworkers.
Bullshit. I don't believe you.
LOL. Must be nice and safe in your mother's basement huh? No need to experience the world. I have reddit!
Sociology isn't a real degree you fucking hack. You wasted 3 to 4 years of your life so you can bitch about how there aren't enough womyn in STEM fields, when you yourself didn't take one
And yes, Sociology isn't a Science, its what you get too head a HR Department, the department that no company actually needs.
You wasted all of that money and for what? Honestly what a sad waste
I swear, that thread just keeps on giving. Check out the part where /u/VelvetJustice decides, as a moderator, to call out individual users of the subreddit to advance his own bullshit political agenda, and then ends up removing one of the replies.
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n/a donaldthelion 2017-05-24
u/Conquestofbaguettes being a sociology grad is less respected than a tarot card reader. What's it like to spend 4 years in college to get a degree that qualifies you for starbucks barista
n/a LuigiVargasLlosa 2017-05-24
I was going to say this a tired old trope based on little evidence, but it looks like the top 'career' for sociology grads is ...
n/a donaldthelion 2017-05-24
You got to get your PhD in sociology, then you can get that sweet sociology professorship and brainwash I mean teach students about how communism isn't bad, has never been tried and how we live in a patriarchy. It's the circle of sociology
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
Sociology = communism? Jesus Christ is there a sub on reddit the retards haven't invaded?
Attacking someone for being a college grad? The fuck?
n/a donaldthelion 2017-05-24
https://www.academia.org/self-identifying-marxist-professors-outnumber-conservatives-as-college-professors/ 20% of social science professors admit to being marxist. The social sciences have become a breeding ground for communist thought. http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2015/03/the_prevalence_1.html
His or her college degree was a complete waste of time which is why they are anarchist/communist. Also where the fuck do you think they learned that an ideology that has been an absolute disaster and crime against humanity is a good idea.
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
I'm not even in college, let alone a "marxist" you fuckin idiot. What does this even prove? Jesus Christ. Is this honestly what autism looks like?
n/a donaldthelion 2017-05-24
Literally not talking about you, talking about conquest of baguettes and how many marxist professors are in the social sciences.
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
You still proved nothing, and this thread is fucking horrible.
Reddit Drama is supposed to be fun, not a meeting place for right wing brigading and dragging arguments out of other subs.
n/a donaldthelion 2017-05-24
Really, I just linked that 20% of social science professors are commies. Seriously where the hell do you think communist thought is coming. I had no idea hating communism was right wing, let me call my parents who lived in the ussr what they think. And dragging arguments out of subs is a big part of this sub it's on the sidebar
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
The commies are coming! The commies are coming!
You fucking guys are hilarious.
n/a zahlman 2017-05-24
TIL people voluntarily self-identifying as Marxist on surveys doesn't make them commies, somehow.
n/a JasonJewnova 2017-05-24
u/mdmrules get that test I linked you. If your in the normal-upper range I'll paypal you $100
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
Personal experience, Internet tough guy?
n/a JasonJewnova 2017-05-24
Well yeah I'm a juicer, now how about that test tough goy?
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
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n/a JasonJewnova 2017-05-24
Well your more attractive than I was expecting
n/a zahlman 2017-05-24
I think he was trying to make fun of your use of the word "juicer".
n/a AlcoholicMood 2017-05-24
Dude, social sciences are not the problem, bad social science is
Economics borrows a lot from social sciences and we burn marxists with flamethrowers. In general social sciences have done more good than bad
If " manspreading reeee " is what you think social science is, you are badly misinformed
n/a donaldthelion 2017-05-24
Sure whatever http://www.cbsnews.com/news/results-of-many-psychology-experiments-cant-be-duplicated-study-finds/
http://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/conceptual-penis-social-contruct-sokal-style-hoax-on-gender-studies/
The entire field has been polluted by far left wackos who dominate academia which isn't a surprise since its a factory constantly putting out more wackos who go from bachelor's degrees to PhDs to teaching. They never left for the real world and embrace the cult. Maybe it was worth something 40 yrs ago but at this point it's a joke.
n/a MRB2012 2017-05-24
It's called the Long March Through the Institutions.
n/a JasonJewnova 2017-05-24
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n/a JasonJewnova 2017-05-24
I bet being a male feminist gets you TONS of pussy, am I right my man?
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
I'm not even a feminist. This is just common sense.
But there's always this sad opposition to even the most basic facts about life... especially online... these people that want to think that THEY ALONE know the secret truth about things.
Apparently not being an unrepentant fucking idiot and fake alpha on the internet means I am a pussy libcuck or whatever the foreveralones think. It's pretty hilarious.
What kind of juice do you make? Hows the weight loss going?
n/a JasonJewnova 2017-05-24
I know what you mean, I always try and preach the truth, like for example women having a lower median IQ, and estrogen making women more emotional and prone to irrationality and the dummies always fight me on it. I guess the truth hurts.
And wrong juice bud, speaking of which I gotta go and inject my self with 100% pure toxic masculinity.
n/a DennisRader 2017-05-24
Like clockwork, dude is defending socialism/communism by pretending that USSR was State© Capitalism™.
Hey lazy monkey, /u/Conquestofbaguettes, if USSR wasn't communist, then why do communists say that kulaks deserved everything that they got? Why defend something that allegedly isn't even part of your ideology? Why do people in /r/communsim defend USSR? Why defend Mao?
It's pretty obvious that USSR was communist, but the uncomfortable truths about the crimes they committed means that you try to distance yourself from it.
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-05-24
"The Holodomor didn't happen, but here's why the Ukrainians deserved it anyway"
Tankies say the darnest things
n/a TheJum 2017-05-24
It's like the old neo-nazi adage of "The holocaust didn't happen, but it would have been justified if it had."
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-05-24
HORSESHOE RRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
WE'RE INFINITELY BETTER THAN THOSE NAZIS
n/a Kraaltastic 2017-05-24
IT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE'RE THE GOOD GUYS
n/a Kraaltastic 2017-05-24
ITS DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE'RE THE GOOD GUYS
n/a Works_of_memercy 2017-05-24
"
Hitler'sStalin's only fault was that he didn't finish what he started"n/a mehforeverybody 2017-05-24
Because most people in red subs are white and middle-class americans, canadians and western europeans ( a minority there) , who know jack shit about life in USSR, but more importantly they don't understand a simple fact - hge road to their utopia would be paved with their dead bodies.
n/a ghostchamber 2017-05-24
I love how his examples of how Communism can actually work were both only in existence for three years.
n/a donaldthelion 2017-05-24
What's it got to be like to pay a college to brainwash you.
n/a Neon_needles 2017-05-24
A large bill and all the retail jobs you could ever imagine.
n/a SuchSpookySkeltal 2017-05-24
If I had to guess, it's because many more women are killed by male abusers than men killed by female abusers. It doesn't make the lack of access less fair, it just means people see men-on-women violence to be more of a threat. Also, the women tend to have the kids with them more often than the dad + kids fleeing from a female abuser, so that's probably why they have family shelters with no grown men allowed.
n/a Chicup 2017-05-24
Retard is going to be implied.
n/a ironicshitpostr 2017-05-24
Anarch* past the age of majority is enough to realize you're dealing with a moron, really.
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-05-24
Except Chomsky, who is only a moron on many topics.
n/a ironicshitpostr 2017-05-24
He's a very successful idiot savant, yes.
n/a Thhueros 2017-05-24
Dont forget to support Hillary Clinton/Khmer Rouge
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-05-24
"I know that one of the worst genocides in human history is going on and Pol Pot just murdered 30 percent of the entire fucking population, but the US is performing another bombing campaign!"
Nixon should've had the CIA shoot that twat. Linguistics would've caught up without him, eventually.
n/a Thhueros 2017-05-24
In his defense, he was suspicious of the initial reports of Khmer Rouge atrocities and thought it must be a propoganda bamboozle. 30% of the population does sound farfetched. Turns out it was actually that bad.
Anyway, it makes a good meme.
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-05-24
I'd excuse it if it happened once and he apologized, but he keeps on denying genocides or endorsing people/books that deny genocides. He may be a genius in linguistics, but his commentary on geopolitics always boils down to "if there's an atrocity that the US is not involved in, then ignore this atrocity and instead focus on something the US is involved in".
He's like a teenage anarchist in a fossilized body.
n/a Thhueros 2017-05-24
I don't know about his linguistics work but I know hes not a top tier political philosopher.
Oh well. Not everyone can be Giovanni Gentile.
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-05-24
Hegelian idealism all the way bby
n/a cavides 2017-05-24
Some of his work is the backbone of a large chunk of computer science.
n/a darth_stroyer 2017-05-24
Anarchafeminism you misogynistic kulak.
n/a zahlman 2017-05-24
u/Conquestofbaguettes I liked the part where you successfully recognized that the incidental use of the phrase "kept out of" as a colloquialism for "protected from" totally reveals subconscious biases on the part of the speaker, indicating that the protected class is really viewed as property without anyone actually making any such claim.
I have one question: have you considered the implications of this analysis, when applied to the fact that you consciously choose to use the effectively-made-up jargon (since it doesn't mean anything related to the etymology) "patriarchy", and explicitly blame it for all of society's ills? What would this amazing analytical technique tell you about how you really feel about men?
n/a I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2017-05-24
"Go away MRA"
blows air horn
n/a zahlman 2017-05-24
From a cousin subthread:
IMX, feminists call each other out for failures of "intersectionality", but they turn a blind eye to things that actively hurt or malign men.
n/a cleverseneca 2017-05-24
Wasn't Warren Farrel a feminist? Until he brought issues that hurt men, at which point he was tossed out and labelled an MRA and conflated with Red Pill and MGTOW.
Feminists don't ever stand up for men because the moment they do they're no longer feminists.
n/a Rock_and_roll_woah 2017-05-24
This has really not been my experience, and is a really broad generalization.
n/a Kraaltastic 2017-05-24
I'm sure your personal experience is all fun and dandy but it frankly doesn't mean shit when you hold it to what the largest and most influential self-proclaimed groups and institutions actually do and say
n/a Rock_and_roll_woah 2017-05-24
It's 'fine and dandy', and I refuse to take responsibility for what other people do and say.
n/a Kraaltastic 2017-05-24
There's technically nothing wrong with fun and dandy, given that something can be both fun and dandy
If I were actively going for the expression "fine and dandy" you'd be right, but I wasn't
please respond to this so I can continue my autistic pedantry
n/a Rock_and_roll_woah 2017-05-24
How do I block ppl on reddit
n/a Kraaltastic 2017-05-24
if you kys you block everyone on reddit all at once
n/a JasonJewnova 2017-05-24
GOOD idea
n/a menvaren 2017-05-24
You're a feminist, that goes without saying.
n/a ChateauJack 2017-05-24
POWER HIERARCHY
Fucking postmodern retards man
n/a Thhueros 2017-05-24
They sound like Sith Lords with how often they're talking about power.
n/a zahlman 2017-05-24
Wow OP, you totally missed the chance to bait P_K tho
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
A waterfall of MRA/White Supremacist talking points doesn't refute anything. You can tapdance around what the post was actually about all you want, but it doesn't change anything.
As if women in the UK making more money in a certain sector debunks the facts about disproportionate income levels across the board in Canada. Do you know how information works? Anecdotes aren't magic.
Opioid addiction is because of depression? Really? And if that were true, that debunks the fact that natives and poor people don't have equal access to healthcare? What the fuuuuuuuck are you talking about?
That's not even the crux of the post. It's really about presenting the obvious stuff to internet assholes in denial about what victims they are.
I know you all think you have a job to do and HAVE to spread your crazy BS online, but you look pretty desperate and immature with posts like this.
Just a rambling, incoherent mess of lies and shoehorned in half-truths.
Y'all are over-the-top triggered right now.
n/a zahlman 2017-05-24
You are a caricature of yourself.
Again, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjWBXbGVyQU
Yes, really. Why would you find that remotely surprising? So is addiction to tranquilizers and other painkillers.
TIL "poor people" doesn't overlap with "white men", somehow.
Literally the only thing preventing natives from having equal access to healthcare in Canada is physical, geographical distance. The ones who live in the city, whether or not they have a fixed address, are not being turned away from hospitals, nor are they any less capable of going to walk-in clinics than white people in the same area - walk-ins that will have posters everywhere explicitly laying out their non-discrimination policy, which includes proactively kicking out patients if they say something racist in the waiting room.
It's called observable, objective reality. The reality in which an actual indigenous person in that thread told you his story and you dismissed it and insulted him because it disagreed with your bullshit.
Everything I said was completely true, and I can back it up.
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
Opioid addiction is not because of depression. Like you don't get depressed and then start doing opioids. It's far more complex than that. But you want a safe and easy reason to rage against women and minorities so you don't give a single shit about reality.
I actually don't have a clue what the fuck you are talking about. Of course white people can be poor. I was one most of my life.
Stop embarrassing yourself, internet know-it-all. You sound like an aggressive 15 year old with autism.
n/a nmx179 2017-05-24
Your lack of self-awareness is stunning.
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
I have written a lot of well-thought posts reflecting on my real life experience and the edgelords just ignore it so they can keep shitposting someone else's ideas.
It's weird when you empathize with both sides and draw your own conclusion but get brigaded with the exact same angry talking points all the time.
So many of you come to reddit to find out what you're supposed to think about things. And get tricked into believing bullshit.
n/a Ennui2778 2017-05-24
Forty.
n/a Ultimatex 2017-05-24
You think you empathize with both sides? Earlier in this comment thread you accused a well-written, sourced post of being "White Supremacist talking points."
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
They are MRA and White Supremacist talking points.
Reddit is flooded with this shit and people now think it's "normal".
n/a Ultimatex 2017-05-24
What he said IS normal. You're just blinded by your ideology. So ironic coming from someone who claims that they can see both sides.
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
I don't have an ideology I follow like it's a religion.
I vote for more than one party and done blindly kowtow to false heroes.
These bullet points for dummies are waste of time. They're easily debunked but you just ignore the criticism and retreat back into your safe spaces.
n/a Ultimatex 2017-05-24
Sorry to say it, but most people who are blinded by their ideology don't realize it.
One sign is when you start superfluously accusing your opponents of using racist talking points.
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
But I don't have an ideology, I couldn't even specifically identify what is and isn't marxist. How is it possible for me to be brainwashed by something I can't define or have experienced? That makes no sense unless you believe that all of society has been brainwashed by Marxists and at that point you're basically a red-faced lunatic screaming on a street corner.
Because they are. That's what those bullet-point lists are about. Pretty much copy-pastas from the hell of the Internet posted by smug idiots with no real personal experience in the matter.
This is a waste of time.
n/a Ultimatex 2017-05-24
Your ideology is that of SJWs. Of course no one thinks of themselves as one, but that's what you are.
And if it's a waste of time then stop responding.
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
I'm no SJW. I'm just not a 20 year old fat, ignorant, virgin retard who's scared of women and minorities because I don't know what to do with how much I hate myself.
n/a nmx179 2017-05-24
Nice debunking of those talking points lol
n/a Kraaltastic 2017-05-24
I'll have you know I'm only six out of seven of those, thank you very much.
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
I'm a proud fat, ignorant, retarded SJW. THIS MUCH I KNOW.
n/a SlavophilesAnonymous 2017-05-24
You mean you vote Green and occasionally hold your nose to pull the lever for the Donkeys?
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
I have voted Reform, NDP, Green, Liberal. No joke.
I have seen it from every side and give my local candidates a chance to reach me with an open mind.
Which is why i find it really funny when I am accused of being a Marxist by 15 year olds that see all politics as a street fight between altr-right/nazis and antifa/SJWs.
n/a Unicorn_Abattoir 2017-05-24
How can you say that, after your rebuttal to /u/zahlman was "Those are White Supremacist Talking Points." ?
n/a zahlman 2017-05-24
Except the side that thinks men are people.
n/a nmx179 2017-05-24
Then debunk them
n/a CuriousKrow 2017-05-24
You're wrong.
Most substance abuses(food, alcohol, drugs, etc.) are related to some kind of depression or trauma that people can't get over. The actually addiction comes from the substance being addictive/personality traits towards addiction, but turning to substance abuse is a way to cope with life problems. Look more into the topic if you're interested.
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
What a stretch. That is not at all what people studying the opioid epidemic are concluding. Where did this come from?
Pretty sure it starts with prescription painkillers. It's easy to get addicted because of how naturally opiates work with the human body. After a few days people find it hard to kick it, and will continue using to deal with "the pain".
And when that Rx is cut off, some people go to the streets for their fix and it's a downward spiral from there.
Leave it to the best minds of reddit to relate it to male discrimination somehow. Jesus.
maybe depression means you are more likely to become addicted? I don't know. But what you are saying sounds like BS.
n/a CuriousKrow 2017-05-24
This is you right now
I never mentioned anything to do with male discrimination, I was talking about depression and trauma.
Anything can be a "gateway drug". Addiction and overuse of those things are still substance abuse.
Most substance abuses(food, alcohol, drugs, etc.) are related to some kind of depression or trauma that people can't get over. The actually addiction comes from the substance being addictive/personality traits towards addiction, but turning to substance abuse is a way to cope with life problems. Look more into the topic if you're interested.
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
Admit it. You are full of shit and you made it up/got it from someone else who made it up.
Anything to enforce what you want to be true.
n/a CuriousKrow 2017-05-24
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Don't be so combative, what I want to be true means shit. There's only what is actually true.
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
So now its all mental illness? I think that makes more sense.
That's not what was being suggested though. This was originally about men being depressed and no one caring, and then they turn to drugs on the street because of their depression.
So let's not move the goalposts once bullshit has been called.
n/a CuriousKrow 2017-05-24
Maybe you're confusing me with someone else but my original response to you was this.
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
Okay so you came in a little late.
I am not even arguing against either.
The argument OP was making is what I decribed. That men are forgotten and ignored, and as such are becoming addicted due to their depression and no one cares about them.
Basically what was being suggested.
My comment back was that it's a lot more complex than just that and IT IS.
You don't get depressed and then pick up opiates. That's kinda dumb.
n/a CuriousKrow 2017-05-24
And my argument is that this is fundamentally wrong. A good chunk of people who are depressed turn to substance abuse to self medicate. Some people do it with food and get obese, some people do it alcohol, some people do it with opiates. I even linked a bunch of articles, one straight from the Anxiety and Depression Association of America which agrees with what I was saying.
Of course it's not a 1:1 causal relationship but to downplay the reality of "sad people" drinking/smoking their lives away is ridiculous. It's a huge trope that is mirrored by real life evidence.
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
Sure. But the gateway isn't depression alone. Access through prescriptions is being cited as a major issue.
OP tried to make a case of men being neglected. That was one of their points. I think they're full of shit.
n/a zahlman 2017-05-24
Having medical professionals grant you access to dangerous drugs, and then not having anyone subsequently check in on you when you end up self-medicating due to mental illness (which you also don't end up getting any direct help with), is being neglected.
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
Sure. But please stop. I don't care that's nothing like what op was doing.
n/a zahlman 2017-05-24
True. OP (apparently, you mean me) was caring. You evidently don't care about people (like, not even enough to pay attention to usernames on the Internet).
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
Haha... WHAAA. Someone on reddit doesn't care about me!!
n/a Ennui2778 2017-05-24
Lol
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
And?
n/a Ennui2778 2017-05-24
Thirty eight.
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
What's reddit for though? If not to make comments and reply to people replying to you?
n/a Ennui2778 2017-05-24
Thirty nine.
n/a donaldthelion 2017-05-24
Literally refutes nothing and claims to be right.
n/a Alan229 2017-05-24
hehehehe
n/a zahlman 2017-05-24
, he said, while presenting himself as on the left and blaming white straight men.
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
I didn't present myself as anything.
I also didn't blame white men. Nuance isn't your guys strong suit is it?
n/a zahlman 2017-05-24
Yeah, because putting that much effort into calling everyone you dislike or disagree with a far-right nazi white supremacist MRA etc. etc. etc. has absolutely nothing to do with establishing your own political position.
Yeah, you didn't blame (((white men))), you only said that there's a system in place that benefits them and also happens to (((coincidentally))) have a lot of them in powerful places calling the shots. Ok.
Also,
Bullshit. I don't believe you. You are lying. I fucking dare you to do the same things they did, if you really think they'd ignore you.
n/a mdmrules 2017-05-24
So you admit you are lying about what I said? AKA strawmanning? Thanks for clearing it up.
It's not against the law to make more than your coworkers.
LOL. Must be nice and safe in your mother's basement huh? No need to experience the world. I have reddit!
n/a zahlman 2017-05-24
No; I'm pointing out that you are equivocating.
Then your female coworkers weren't actually more qualified (or they didn't put in the same hours, have the same seniority, etc. etc.) Sorry.
My mother is dead, you asshole.
n/a kryonik 2017-05-24
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/men-women-prison-sentence-length-gender-gap_n_1874742.html
Don't forget about how men get 63% longer prison sentences than women for the same crime.
n/a darth_stroyer 2017-05-24
Ew a serious post
n/a zahlman 2017-05-24
ikr, brb, kms.
n/a NecessaryPiglet 2017-05-24
Dude, chill
n/a zahlman 2017-05-24
bruh do you know where we are
n/a NecessaryPiglet 2017-05-24
No I am very confused and somewhat scared
n/a wwyzzerdd 2017-05-24
Don't be scared.
n/a JasonJewnova 2017-05-24
u/Conquestofbaguettes if women are so equal then how did they allow themselves to be subjugated for thousands of years?
Checkmate ho
n/a incisorcist 2017-05-24
/u/conquestofbaguettes There are fucking TELEVISION SHOWS (not even great ones) that have lasted longer than Revolutionary Catalonia.
This is your shining example of a perfect Communist state?
You have a degree in sociology?
inhale bullets.
n/a lesboautisticweeabo 2017-05-24
/u/Conquestofbaguettes
Sociology isn't a real degree you fucking hack. You wasted 3 to 4 years of your life so you can bitch about how there aren't enough womyn in STEM fields, when you yourself didn't take one
And yes, Sociology isn't a Science, its what you get too head a HR Department, the department that no company actually needs.
You wasted all of that money and for what? Honestly what a sad waste
n/a wwyzzerdd 2017-05-24
Protip for /u/Conquestofbaguettes; 3 things you should never admit publicly...
n/a zahlman 2017-05-24
I swear, that thread just keeps on giving. Check out the part where /u/VelvetJustice decides, as a moderator, to call out individual users of the subreddit to advance his own bullshit political agenda, and then ends up removing one of the replies.
n/a theherps 2017-05-24
>anarchofemimist
>retard
Dude you already said anarchofemimist
/u/Conquestofbaguettes, this is why im so happy im a fag, i literally have no reason to even pretend to care about (((women))
n/a darth_stroyer 2017-05-24
/u/3391224
"Brigading is fine when we do it!"
n/a MRB2012 2017-05-24
Every time I read something by a commie, I am sickened by the amount of sympathy I feel for Pinochet.
n/a ComedicSans 2017-05-24
Seriousposters should kys tbh.
n/a giroth 2017-05-24
Finally a report I agree with
THEY ARE POSTING PARAGRAPHS OF TEXT
MODS DO SOMETHING NOW