It's a 5 hour wait in Canada because anyone with a scratchy throat after 5pm goes to the ER and says "Oh, I bumped my head real good on a cabinet, but while I'm here can you also take a look at my throat?" in an effort to try to jump the queue.
Broken bone isn't going to kill you. Order of treatment shouldn't be based on pain alone, it should be based on threat to life, with pain coming in second.
Yeah, but most people don't know much more than "My arm is broken, it hurts a lot, time to go to the ER". I get that people flooding the ER with minor complaints is a problem, but I don't think people with broken bones are the right target.
Going into shock is a life threatening condition all in itself, and that tends to happen when someone's sitting around with a broken bone. They also often involve other injuries, internal bleeding, etc. Obviously any ER triage will prioritize someone who's bleeding out to death, etc - but broken bones tend to get prompt attention for a good reason.
All of this "wait times" nonsense is anti-Canada scaremongering. Why the last time I went to the ER for a non-emergency complaint because I'm too dumb to renew my helath card on time, I was seen literally right away.
It's hilarious that you think your anecdote means anything. There are plenty of actual studies on the issue that show Canadian wait times are fucking *destoying the country. Two and a half times as many people have to wait over four weeks to see a specialist as in the U.
S.
“In seven out of eight measures of timely access to care, Canada was significantly below the international average,” Christina Lawand, a senior researcher at CIHI, said from Ottawa. Source
Wow that doesn't sound good.
Wait Time Alliance physicians are concerned about wait times in Canada's health care system. Source
Why don't you go tell these doctors you know more than them, u/evenharper?
In the report, low-income Canadians said they had greater cost barriers to accessing care in general, an inequity Tepper called striking. For instance, one in 10 Canadians didn't fill a prescription or skipped a dose because of cost, according to the report. About 58 per cent of Canadians reported using one or more prescription drugs, compared with the international average of 52 per cent. Source
Good thing all these problems are false! u/EvenHarper says so and his little anecdote proves it!
Perhaps you're content with 5 hours, but that's extremely inadequate by most people's measures. It was one of the worst stretches of time in my entire life. There were no alternatives that would have been faster for me. In the US, this is not the case. I could pay and see someone almost immediately.
"i was uncomfortable and daddy's money couldnt make it go away WORST EXPERIENCE OF MY LIFE EVER"
I'm sorry your majesty /u/TheManWhoPanders, but the ER doctors had to treat the people who got run over by a truck before they could set your broken bone. So nobody gives a shit that you sat in the ER for 5 hours. In America you would still wait 5 hours or more and get a hefty bill at the end if you were uninsured. What fucking country doesn't have wait times in emergency rooms anyway?
It's a sub to highlight drama on reddit you stupid mutherfucker. You got into a fight so you're featured. And stop posting links. Rational discussion isn't welcome
Yeah, I'd buy that for a second if you hadn't already posted the link in /r/Shitstatistssay and if you hadn't posted it here with a title that's a complete exaggeration of what I said to make it sound ridiculous
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n/a SnapshillBot 2017-05-26
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n/a wwyzzerdd 2017-05-26
Why even go to a doctor? They're all just shills for the insurance industry.
Find a straight-ish tree branch, break it off, tie it to the broken limb. BAM! right as rain.
n/a KT-47 2017-05-26
Just rub some dirt in it
n/a Ahrotahntee_ 2017-05-26
It's a 5 hour wait in Canada because anyone with a scratchy throat after 5pm goes to the ER and says "Oh, I bumped my head real good on a cabinet, but while I'm here can you also take a look at my throat?" in an effort to try to jump the queue.
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-05-26
Broken bone isn't going to kill you. Order of treatment shouldn't be based on pain alone, it should be based on threat to life, with pain coming in second.
n/a nbslector 2017-05-26
I mean, broken bones absolutely can kill you. You've got sharp bone poking around inside your body. A lot of shit can go wrong.
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-05-26
Most cases won't. Obviously it should be analyzed in a case by case basis.
n/a nbslector 2017-05-26
Yeah, but most people don't know much more than "My arm is broken, it hurts a lot, time to go to the ER". I get that people flooding the ER with minor complaints is a problem, but I don't think people with broken bones are the right target.
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-05-26
Oh, they can still go to the ER imo. Just, it's okay if they have to wait 5 hours.
n/a wisty 2017-05-26
I suspect it was a finger or toe.
n/a eskachig 2017-05-26
Going into shock is a life threatening condition all in itself, and that tends to happen when someone's sitting around with a broken bone. They also often involve other injuries, internal bleeding, etc. Obviously any ER triage will prioritize someone who's bleeding out to death, etc - but broken bones tend to get prompt attention for a good reason.
n/a EvanHarper 2017-05-26
All of this "wait times" nonsense is anti-Canada scaremongering. Why the last time I went to the ER for a non-emergency complaint because I'm too dumb to renew my helath card on time, I was seen literally right away.
n/a jethro223 2017-05-26
It's hilarious that you think your anecdote means anything. There are plenty of actual studies on the issue that show Canadian wait times are fucking *destoying the country. Two and a half times as many people have to wait over four weeks to see a specialist as in the U. S.
Wow that doesn't sound good.
Why don't you go tell these doctors you know more than them, u/evenharper?
Good thing all these problems are false! u/EvenHarper says so and his little anecdote proves it!
n/a glmox 2017-05-26
lol you do realize this isnt one of your spergy politics subs right? no one cares
n/a jethro223 2017-05-26
You do realize that I have a -100 karma for a reason you dumb blind mutherfucker?
n/a glmox 2017-05-26
well fuck me
n/a SamWhite 2017-05-26
Wait, that wasn't satire? I legitimately thought he was taking the piss.
n/a EvanHarper 2017-05-26
these are all right wing lies lmao
n/a DivinePrince2 2017-05-26
well I mean, I was sent to a room to wait for over 6 hours while I was having a gallbladder attack once.
I'm pretty sure they thought I was a druggy, even though they had the ultrasound results on their files.
n/a EvanHarper 2017-05-26
sure is full of Fraser Institute shills in here rn
n/a DivinePrince2 2017-05-26
I don't know what that is, but ok.
n/a wisty 2017-05-26
Notice how they don't mention which bone it was? I bet it was a finger.
n/a glmox 2017-05-26
"i was uncomfortable and daddy's money couldnt make it go away WORST EXPERIENCE OF MY LIFE EVER"
fall off a higher cliff next time, /u/TheManWhoPanders
n/a OniTan 2017-05-26
I'm sorry your majesty /u/TheManWhoPanders, but the ER doctors had to treat the people who got run over by a truck before they could set your broken bone. So nobody gives a shit that you sat in the ER for 5 hours. In America you would still wait 5 hours or more and get a hefty bill at the end if you were uninsured. What fucking country doesn't have wait times in emergency rooms anyway?
n/a AssaultedCracker 2017-05-26
I love how you posted this here to mock me, and most people agree with me.
Also, so do the Canadian health care authorities. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manitoba-emergency-room-urgent-care-1.4061933
n/a BowtoPrezTrump 2017-05-26
It's a sub to highlight drama on reddit you stupid mutherfucker. You got into a fight so you're featured. And stop posting links. Rational discussion isn't welcome
n/a AssaultedCracker 2017-05-26
Yeah, I'd buy that for a second if you hadn't already posted the link in /r/Shitstatistssay and if you hadn't posted it here with a title that's a complete exaggeration of what I said to make it sound ridiculous