AMD is about to completely lose the gaming market. Their new CPUs are almost totally inferior for 80+% of games. An i7-7700k is a far better purchase for most people, and now they are about to completely lose the GPU market.
They'll probably los the professional market too after the Intel i9s come out. Then there will be no reason to get ryzen.
Maybe now you can grasp why /r/AMD is so butt hurt. Also, if that makes your eyes gloss over, then I would hate to see you try and read anything remotely complicated.
Their sub $300 cards are still good, right? The 4/580 slightly beats the 1060, and the 4/570 hits a sweet spot the 1050ti doesn't. As far as CPU's go, R5 is mostly a better deal than i5.
Yeah, their middle-end CPUs are more cost efficient than Intel's and so are the Ryzens currently. Although the i9 will have them beat at pure power, and I'm not sure about price.
Yeah, I really doubt it will. Ryzen's cost efficiency is through the roof, but a lot of companies to which AMD and Intel primarily sell to just want the strongest CPU usually regardless of the premium, there's also the pricing-in of the brand recognition. Most companies know Intel as a tried and trusted CPU manufacturer while AMD has only been getting known for it recently.
Which is a shame, because building a PC yourself is more fun then buying a pre-built one. DIY also saves you from getting those bloatwares on their PCs.
Nah, we're talking large corporate entities. They'll buy CPUs and they can afford them anyway, even though they'll have a lot of excess power they don't need. Your average individual will be the one looking at price efficiency hopefully, and AMD has been getting fantastic press about their CPUs, deservedly so.
I actually scheduled our own company's upgrade recently to get Ryzens so that we won't end up deciding to upgrade after the Intel release and get those instead since I know we definitely don't need that level of processor.
I find it hard to believe that corporate entities are this obsessed with intel, given the stuff they buy are not top-notch in any way, which should drift them towards AMD. But what you're saying is the truth.
Do those large purchase gives companies a discount, or it is still expensive as hell?
Depends on the company. Companies with ties to electronics or are engineering heavy will have deals with suppliers, smaller companies that are outside of that kind of industry will be able to find wholesale sellers/distributors that target that kind of need specifically. But yes, most companies will be able to get a discount depending on how many they're upgrading and how related to the industry they are. What don't get discounts are small companies that don't hit the necessary units to be able to get a wholesale discount, but I'm sure they can strike a deal with distributors if they called in.
Oh yeah actually I sold at 15.5 but I got back in 12.8 something. It's not that bad tbh, and I think I'll ditch it if it hits 12 again cos I've lower my cost basis a bit since then
Yeah, AMD was so good to me last year it was impossible to believe that it was gonna keep being the free ride that it was. It's a personal rules in my book to get out once something spikes, so if it goes down I won't feel bad and if it keeps going up I'll just say I got my money's worth out of it.
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n/a SnapshillBot 2017-05-31
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n/a ChickenTitilater 2017-05-31
I know nothing about video cards, but I'm sure AMD will be better than the shit {{{NVIDIA}}} feeds to its consumers
n/a Minimum_T-Giraff 2017-05-31
Basics.
Nivida -> Burning
AMD -> No drivers
n/a ChickenTitilater 2017-05-31
Lmao, how the fuck is a clayeating hick explaining CoomPooters (that's how you rite it) to me?
n/a Minimum_T-Giraff 2017-05-31
Still sober
n/a ChickenTitilater 2017-05-31
Go make some more moonshine then.
n/a Minimum_T-Giraff 2017-05-31
I got couple kegs of it.
n/a HINDBRAIN 2017-05-31
is valid prolog
go back to nooblog
n/a analmariachi 2017-05-31
AMD is about to completely lose the gaming market. Their new CPUs are almost totally inferior for 80+% of games. An i7-7700k is a far better purchase for most people, and now they are about to completely lose the GPU market.
They'll probably los the professional market too after the Intel i9s come out. Then there will be no reason to get ryzen.
n/a ChickenTitilater 2017-05-31
My eyes glazed over you fucking nerd.
n/a analmariachi 2017-05-31
Maybe now you can grasp why /r/AMD is so butt hurt. Also, if that makes your eyes gloss over, then I would hate to see you try and read anything remotely complicated.
n/a ChickenTitilater 2017-05-31
It isn't how complicated it is, I just hate being reminded that trash like you exists
n/a OccasionallyClueless 2017-05-31
Were you molested by a computer or something?
n/a windowsphoneshill 2017-05-31
Hey kid, I'm a computer Stop all the downloading
n/a 21081987 2017-05-31
Their sub $300 cards are still good, right? The 4/580 slightly beats the 1060, and the 4/570 hits a sweet spot the 1050ti doesn't. As far as CPU's go, R5 is mostly a better deal than i5.
n/a michgot 2017-05-31
Yeah, their middle-end CPUs are more cost efficient than Intel's and so are the Ryzens currently. Although the i9 will have them beat at pure power, and I'm not sure about price.
n/a Pepperglue 2017-05-31
The one with 18 cores is priced at 1999 USD. 8 core is at 599 USD.
Ryzen 5 1700X is at 399 USD. I am unsure how Intel would be able to justify the 200 USD difference through performance, but we'll see.
n/a michgot 2017-05-31
Yeah, I really doubt it will. Ryzen's cost efficiency is through the roof, but a lot of companies to which AMD and Intel primarily sell to just want the strongest CPU usually regardless of the premium, there's also the pricing-in of the brand recognition. Most companies know Intel as a tried and trusted CPU manufacturer while AMD has only been getting known for it recently.
n/a Pepperglue 2017-05-31
Which is a shame, because building a PC yourself is more fun then buying a pre-built one. DIY also saves you from getting those bloatwares on their PCs.
n/a michgot 2017-05-31
Nah, we're talking large corporate entities. They'll buy CPUs and they can afford them anyway, even though they'll have a lot of excess power they don't need. Your average individual will be the one looking at price efficiency hopefully, and AMD has been getting fantastic press about their CPUs, deservedly so.
I actually scheduled our own company's upgrade recently to get Ryzens so that we won't end up deciding to upgrade after the Intel release and get those instead since I know we definitely don't need that level of processor.
n/a Pepperglue 2017-05-31
I find it hard to believe that corporate entities are this obsessed with intel, given the stuff they buy are not top-notch in any way, which should drift them towards AMD. But what you're saying is the truth.
Do those large purchase gives companies a discount, or it is still expensive as hell?
n/a michgot 2017-05-31
Depends on the company. Companies with ties to electronics or are engineering heavy will have deals with suppliers, smaller companies that are outside of that kind of industry will be able to find wholesale sellers/distributors that target that kind of need specifically. But yes, most companies will be able to get a discount depending on how many they're upgrading and how related to the industry they are. What don't get discounts are small companies that don't hit the necessary units to be able to get a wholesale discount, but I'm sure they can strike a deal with distributors if they called in.
n/a Pepperglue 2017-05-31
Good thing I'm not in the business world. Seems like a lot of hoops to jump through.
Thanks for the insight.
n/a ironicshitpostr 2017-05-31
Only a turbofaggot would think they need a $300+ CPU to play video games and masturbate to Redtube.
Most people should get a Chromebook or iPad or something else locked down so they don't become the next WannaCry victim.
n/a DannyLee90 2017-05-31
Chrombook True Believer here.
I have mine unlocked, so I'll be infected like everyone else anyway, lol.
But hey, at least I can play vidja on Linux. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
n/a DefNotaZombie 2017-05-31
Go masturbate to your kernel compiling some more
n/a michgot 2017-05-31
Thank God I pulled out my stock.
Also, card wars? Feels like I'm back in high school, boys.
n/a ownersinc 2017-05-31
I'm out here selling calls. It's not a loss if you don't sell right?
n/a michgot 2017-05-31
ecks dee
n/a ownersinc 2017-05-31
Oh yeah actually I sold at 15.5 but I got back in 12.8 something. It's not that bad tbh, and I think I'll ditch it if it hits 12 again cos I've lower my cost basis a bit since then
n/a michgot 2017-05-31
Yeah, AMD was so good to me last year it was impossible to believe that it was gonna keep being the free ride that it was. It's a personal rules in my book to get out once something spikes, so if it goes down I won't feel bad and if it keeps going up I'll just say I got my money's worth out of it.
n/a ownersinc 2017-05-31
It's a good rule, the mental game is so important
n/a BlackPeopleEmoji 2017-05-31
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I need graphics cards that have OSS drivers that weren't created through reverse engineering.
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n/a NoRedsAllowed 2017-05-31
I liked AMD to...I hate to see them go down so hard.