The NSA report, dated May 5, provides details of a 2016 Russian military intelligence cyberattack on a US voting software supplier, though there is no evidence that any votes were affected by the hack.
I mean, I'm sure there are still some people out there who still believe that Trump paid Russian hookers to piss all over a bed the Obamas had once slept in.
Aside: anyone else remember all the talk leading up to the election about how it "couldn't be fixed!"
I'm also just going to go ahead and bring up all the cries for "solidarity" because "we are all Americans, after all" by many on the left around the same time as the above.
33 HERE. YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY MAKE A CHANGE FINALLY? HIT SUBSCRIBE THEN. THIS IS ENOUGH. IMAGINE IF EVERYONE ON REDDIT READING THIS RIGHT NOW TOOK THE TIME AND ACTUALLY SUBSCRIBED AND HIT THE BUTTON. THE TRUTH COULD BE SEEN AND THE IMPACT WOULD BE HUGE. OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE YOU SEE WHAT THEY ARE HIDING. WE ARE GETTING BEAT DOWN DAY IN AND DAY OUT BY TRUMP AND ALT-RIGHT SUPPORTERS AND IM FED UP. WE HAVE MODS QUIT MONTHLY BECAUSE ITS JUST TOO MUCH BEING DOXXED AND ATTACKED. I AM ALMOST READY TO LEAVE MYSELF AND SHUTDOWN. SOMEONE MESSAGED ME YESTERDAY AND THEIR USER NAME WAS MY HOME ADDRESS. I BLOCKED THEM AND THEY MESSAGED ME AGAIN WITH MY CHILDS NAME AS THEIR USER NAME. THAT IS NOT RIGHT, BUT IM NOT STOPPING. DOXX ME ALL YOU WANT. THEY ARE ENDLESS AND WILL DO ANYTHING TO STOP US THOUGH. WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT AND SO DOES THE RESISTANCE SO HIT SUBSCRIBE AND THEY CAN SEE THAT THEY CANT JUST SHUT US DOWN. STAND UP REDDIT OR WE WILL BE GONE TOO. THIS IS NO JOKE ANYMORE. YOU NEED TO REALIZE EVENTUALLY THEY WILL MAKE REDDIT BAN ME BECAUSE TRUMP IS A DICTATOR. KEEP FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT THOUGH AND NEVER QUIT. "LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL" ISN'T JUST A SAYING. AMERICA WAS FOUNDED ON IT AND DONALD TRUMP WILL MEET LADY LIBERTY EVENTUALLY. EDIT: <3 you all for the support.
BREAKING CNN: THIS IS REAL AND WE MUST TAKE ACTION. SHE WANTED YOU TO SEE THE TRUTH. THIS JUST HAPPENED AND WENT LIVE ABOUT 10 MINUTES AGO. HIT UPVOTE SO PEOPLE SEE THE TRUTH. THE NEWS IS JUST STARTING TO REPORT IT. SHE RELEASED INFO THAT RUSSIA HACKED AMERICAN VOTING SYSTEMS AND SHE WANTED AMERICA TO SEE IT! ARRESTED IMMEDIATELY BY TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. THEY DONT WANT YOU OR AMERICA SEEING THIS. #RESIST
I'd have a bit more sympathy for this woman if she wasn't treating about committing treason if the US escalates sanctions against Iran.
Beyond that she's a wannabe Manning/Snowden but instead of leaking actually useful information she released a report whose eventual conclusion was that nothing really happened...
I mean, if you want to release an anti-Trump report about voter fraud it probably shouldn't conclude that there was no fraud.
I don't follow this reasoning. You aren't concerned with foreign entities attempting to interfere with our elections because our government has "probably" done the same in the past?
You aren't concerned with foreign entities attempting to interfere with our elections because our government has "probably" done the same in the past?
What right do I have to be offended when our government has likely done worse than what Russia is accused of doing? It's like a thief being upset that someone stole the money he stole from someone else...
What people should be concerned about is the fact that we'd likely not be hearing about any of this if Hillary had won the election.
I mean you can easily condemn both the actions of your own government as well those of foreign governments...
But no, you're right, I should just be focused on all of the hypothetical ways that Hillary could have fucked up instead of paying attention to what's happening in reality.
At no point does it say that nothing really happened. It says that massive voter fraud was attempted by the Russian government with some basically confirmed success (the likely breach of a US voter tech company) unknown final results.
If you are going to agenda post at least read the damn thing. I know reading isn't your strong point, but come on the damn thing has an infographic.
If you are going to agenda post at least read the damn thing.
I've read multiple articles since the news broke yesterday. All of them essentially say that Russia was successful in hacking a company that provided voting machines but there is no evidence that it affected vote count.
Yes. And yesterday there was no evidence that the Russian government attempted to hack US voting machines. I didn't even think they would have pushed it this hard, but those Russians are some bold and hearty vodka soaked bear fuckers.
If Clinton was at the center of this whole "baby's first international conspiracy" we got stewing here you would lose your mind shitposting about it, but it's your boy so all you can do is agenda post about how "it doesn't look like anything to me." That shit is weak as fuck.
And yesterday there was no evidence that the Russian government attempted to hack US voting machines.
And today there's still no evidence that the hack had any effect on votes that were cast. Those are the facts. Therefore, it's accurate to say that there's no fraud.
f Clinton was at the center of this whole "baby's first international conspiracy" we got stewing here you would lose your mind shitposting about it
And you'd lose your mind trying to to make excuses for why we should ignore the news, etc... so don't try and pretend you are any different than me.
Come on man, this is square one again and it's going to be less and less fun to have to keep repeating myself. This document says that there was a fraud and that it was at least partially successful. It is currently unknown if this fraud ended up changing vote totals. However, Russian attempts to directly undermine our elections, even failed attempts, are important. Evidence pointing to the existence of such an attempt is a meaningful development in an ongoing investigation.
You can tell yourself we're the same all you want, but I'm not the one out here shooting shitty, seriouspost attacks at everything that has even a whiff of going against their preferred narrative.
If Soros owning voting machines doesn't matter and the DNC's proven attempts at voter fraud don't matter, then an email phishing attempt is not going to matter at all.
See, this I can get behind. I honestly respect full-retard conspiracy theorist as a political position way more than I do the stubborn, hands affixed to ears administration apologist. At least you dudes are consistent.
Yes. The Russian government hacked a voting machine company and then tried to hack 122 election officies with unknown success. No one is saying anything else. Please at least read my comments if you want to seriouspost fight with me.
The part that makes us disagree is when you look at that and say "nothing happened" because you just gotta minimize anything that could be perceived as anti-Trump. Because that's the type of dude you are.
Beyond that she's a wannabe Manning/Snowden but instead of leaking actually useful information she released a report whose eventual conclusion was that nothing really happened...
I mean, if you want to release an anti-Trump report about voter fraud it probably shouldn't conclude that there was no fraud.
That's what you said. My first point was that there was a fraud (hacking the voter machine company was done via fraud). All that is unknown is whether this fraud changed votes. My other point was that even without votes being changed interpreting this report as saying that "nothing really happened" is full on Trump dick tugging. Sorry I missed the "really" when quoting you.
clinton is at the center of it though, this dumb russia conspiracy theory only exists to cover for the fact that they had the real source of the leaks killed, and expected it not to matter because they thought theyd win
At no point does it say that nothing really happened.
Um.....
The NSA report, dated May 5, provides details of a 2016 Russian military intelligence cyberattack on a US voting software supplier, though there is no evidence that any votes were affected by the hack.
That isn't what you said. You said "At no point does it say nothing really happened" - this is a lie.
The report does make it quite clear that no votes were changed. Therefor, it was an unsuccessful attack. Therefore nothing really happened. It is stated plainly in the article.
I understand reading isn't your strong suit. Can you show me the quotes from the report that lead you to believe something happened?
Brah, you need to get some perspective. I hope that no votes were changed. The reason this report matters is this because they found evidence that an attempt was made and the first level of the attack very likely had at least one success. If you had a little common sense you would find this troubling even if they currently have no evidence of vote tampering.
That's good, because that's literally what the NSA says happened, and since you don't have even 1% of their investigative powers or talents, I'm gonna believe them over you.
The reason this report matters is this because they found evidence that an attempt was made and the first level of the attack very likely had at least one success.
There was no success. No votes were changed. That isn't up for debate. It's a fact according to the NSA, and again their capacity to know something about this exceeds yours by a vast chasm.
If you had a little common sense you would find this troubling even if they currently have no evidence of vote tampering.
You're an anti-trump ideologue. You would literally believe anything negative about him. Additionally you are, right now, engaged in deceptive behavior trying to turn something that proves your general premise wrong into something that proves your general premise right.
lol, whatever man, you aren't even arguing with me at this point just sperging out at some simplistic position you can understand. My point is that even a completely failed Russian attempt to hack voter machines is a huge deal. One with at least first level success (like this one) is even more of a big deal.
It's not deceptive behavior you just genuinely can't seem to follow any level of nuance in an argument. Anyway, enjoy watching the grow ups of the world talk rationally about this while you're out here REEing for daddy on the Internet.
PS I didn't lose anything because I wasn't running for office. Get a fucking life if you feel a sense of personal accomplishment from an election
You know someone has totally given up any illusion that they have a point when they just fall apart like this and have no ability to even respond to what is being said anymore.
You just changed your whole argument to say that Russia trying to hack our election is normal and totally fine, and that's an aggressively stupid thing to say. I have no interest in arguing about whether it matters that a foreign power was trying to influence our election or whether I would be fine if it was China doing it (lol).
If you want to claim victory when the other person finds talking to you completely pointless and a little gross, you may. However, by your stringent criteria a shit covered rock is the best possible debater.
Two parts, A) They failed, so nothing really happened and the article and report make this clear and B) (to counter your argument) It isn't a big deal that Russia attempted espionage.
A) they compromised a us voter tech company and went after 122 election officials with unknown results. You can keep calling that nothing but only because you are very stupid. Read the report dummy. Or just repeat "there is no evidence that votes were changed." Which, obviously, is what you will do.
B) Hit me with an example of another country trying to swing a US election through government sponsored espionage against our political infrastructure. You know, since this kind of happens to us all the time and is no big deal. It's a good chance to show me your "global geo-politics" chops.
Tl;dr you said exactly what I said you would and then gave me 23 page intro to all the espionage that's happened in the last 80 years, all of which was a huge deal and none of which was like the current situation.
Bonus points for poorly understood postmodernism bullshit.
23 pages each and every one proving the point you asked for a source for: that espionage happens all the time. Why ask for proof of a point and then pretend you asked for proof of a different point? And where did you get the idea I was saying anything in the port wasn't a big deal?
Are you going to acnknowledge that that report proves my point that espionage happens all the time? Because, the part about how it wasn't a big deal isn't being sourced from that. That claim is being sourced from the NSA report.
So I have two points and two sources proving those points separately. That one of my sources doesn't prove both points is completely and totally irrelevant.
lol, I know you don't know what postmodernism is because you tried to apply it to me when you got confused and couldn't follow the thread of my argument. You are like a lost child clinging to a favorite insult.
Neither source says that espionage such as is documented here is not a big deal and happens all the time, because those are the words of an idiot and idiots don't write many legible documents.
lol, I know you don't know what postmodernism is because you tried to apply it to me when you got confused and couldn't follow the thread of my argument.
You mean when you tried to use Derrida's style of framing inquiries for evidence? If you aren't a post modernist, you sure are emulating their chief trickster.
Neither source says that espionage such as is documented here is not a big deal and happens all the time, because those are the words of an idiot and idiots don't write many legible documents.
Alright so you don't have a real reply to this, and are just going to disregard sources that prove you wrong.
I think that reading that 80 years of spy history only highlights just how out of the ordinary a coordinated foreign attack against the core institutions of US democracy really is. If you want to keep parroting that there is nothing to see here that's your prerogative I guess, but oh should keep it tuned to Fox News or you risk a serious triggering. Anyway, enjoy your Derrida-infested, anti intellectual waking fever dreams.
Lol the last one is literally being answered in this thread... How fucking high are you? We are in a thread, right now, about a case of Russian espionage. Do you not understand that? Are you trying to say "The last one before this" because that's a different thing than "the last one"?
You seem like a careful thinker.
This is all well and good, but I see no proof for your claim that Russia rarely tries to commit espionage in the United States.
2015 is this election cycle, the thing we are talking about. That's the very same example you've tried to pass off twice and which does not count as a separate case.
I don't think I know more than them. That's why I agree with them when they all say this election tampering is a big deal. I am agreeing with the intelligence community while you seem to have already forgotten that you are the one on the other side saying "this is no big deal."
2015 is of course the same cycle. Look up political cycle when you get a break from the frantic read read reading you have been doing to fail to answer my questions.
Alright well you clearly don't have a response to me literally just explaining what actually happened, so I'll take that as ceded.
So, just so we are clear, you now acknowledge that Russian attempts to commit espionage against the united states are relativistically common, as stated clearly by intelligence officials?
You pointed to the Russian attacks on our democracy during the 2016 cycle as evidence that Russian attacks happen all the time and so the Russian attacks on our democracy during the 2016 cycle were not a big deal.
You can bomb me with paragraphs of rambling and poorly constructed arguments but the position that these attacks don't matter is completely untenable for anyone but the most fanatical partisan or the legitimate cognitatively impaired.
Wait, so did I or did I not answer all of your questions? Because you absolutely ignored many of mine, and I can show them to you if you'd like.
You pointed to the Russian attacks on our democracy during the 2016 cycle as evidence that Russian attacks happen all the time
Uh, false? I pointed to the fact that US IC senior officials clearly state that they happen regularly as evidence that they happen regularly. How many times do I have to explain this to you before you understand it?
and so the Russian attacks on our democracy during the 2016 cycle were not a big deal.
The evidence for that is the report itself, where it says no votes were changed.
that these attacks don't matter
You keep doing this too. I will say "isn't a big deal" and you "paraphrase" that by saying "doesn't matter" - it's really dishonesty. I'm saying, specifically, that this attack isn't a big deal. it was failed, and no votes were changed. If it had been even a limited success, it would be different. But it was a failure.
I'm going to post some of my questions again, so I can hopefully get some answers.
So, just so we are clear, you now acknowledge that Russian attempts to commit espionage against the united states are relativistically common, as stated clearly by intelligence officials?
Do you have a source for intelligence officials saying this instance is a big deal? I asked you for that at the beginning too.
The fact that you will say Russian attacks on US democracy are a not a big deal because you think it plays badly for Trump means you gotta reevaluate your life my man.
I'm glad you've abandoned the whole "you never answered my questions" thing. It was pretty bad.
So, that's three times you've been asked if you accept a proven point, that's definitely ceded. So we've established that espionage happens all the time, that means we can move on to talking about "not a big deal".
I think you're misinterpreting things badly. I will gladly rephrase the statement to "There was no influence on the election from this incident" if that's more agreeable to you?
i know full well what im talking about, meanwhile youve only got half the information at best just because you get all your information from the same people who told you iraq had wmds
Nah, all that's left talking to me is the dregs. You've already brought up Iraq for fucks sake. There is no conversation to be had with you and I'm not interested in your ramblings.
Lol my position on "this topic" is that Russian hacking of the US election matters. You can talk about all the subtlety and hearts you want, but this shit is super simple and your position is super dumb.
Isn't it weird how every time you "go deeper" into the news you come up with support for the curent positions of a political party and a billionaire politician with a compulsive lying habit. But yeah, lecture me about swallowing shit wholesale
Isn't it weird how every time you "go deeper" into the news you come up with support for the curent positions of a political party and a billionaire politician with a compulsive lying habit.
what are you even talking about, you havent a clue what i believe besides the fact that i dont believe you
rest assured though there arent any russian hackers
But yeah, lecture me about swallowing shit wholesale
I read the leaked document. It was a partially successful but ultimately failed attack on a voter registration tech company wouldn't impact votes. Also contained no evidence linking to Russia.
First of all, there is no publicly available links that ties her as reality winner, a NSA contractor to the twitter, instagram and facebook accounts the media published. Whoever published her social media got it from sources who investigated her.
instead of leaking actually useful information she released a report whose eventual conclusion was that nothing really happened
We don't know if that's the only thing she leaked. Glenn greenwald, the original journalist who was trusted with responsibly leaking selective parts of the snowden leaks started intercept. Now, a """journalist""" from intercept was the reason winner got arrested because he didn't even know that sending the original leaked NSA document a leaker sent you back to the fucking NSA without even bothering to try to edit it to not reveal the source would compromise yoir source.
There are reports that say that the "journalist" who did this was texting people in the IC and sent them unredacted photos of the documents for verification. Wikileaks officially set a bounty of $10000 to dox this "journalist" for maliciously revealing the source and publishing it to get clicks.
We don't know if that's the only thing she leaked.
I think that we can be pretty confident in guessing that if she leaked anything of major significance it would be published by now, given the hard-on most reporters have for the Trump Administration.
Now, a """journalist""" from intercept was the reason winner got arrested because he didn't even know that sending the original leaked NSA document a leaker sent you back to the fucking NSA without even bothering to try to edit it to not reveal the source would compromise yoir source.
Lesson to learn here - don't trust journalists, especially if you think they are looking our for your best interests. They aren't. Just like everyone else they are looking to advance their careers and make as much money as possible.
It's really too bad. Journalists used to be so adamant about protecting their sources. This chick was dumb, but The Intercept was dumber. Way to ensure that nobody sends you anything of consequence ever again.
Shes a far left moron. She leaked to Glenn Greenwald, noted Trump and Putin defender and hater of all things western democracy, and they promptly "accidentaly" got her arrested hahahahaha
As they led prisoner 492 to the prison cell, she spat at the guards spitefully, "You can't lock away Reality like this! Someday, you'll ALL get what's coming to you! Reality has a way of biting agents of the fascist police state in their asses!"
One of the officers protectively moved a hand down to her butt when they left the cell and then sighed when the door finally closed. She'd learned like most of the prison staff, that Reality could be a real pain sometimes.
The hilarious thing is that she was a) a contractor for the NSA with apparently top secret security clearance, and b) used a gmail account to contact the media outlet.
I mean, at that level you have to know that the NSA and FBI knowing everything that goes on on Google's servers isn't just a conspiracy theory.
The hilarious thing is that she was a) a contractor for the NSA with apparently top secret security clearance, and b) used a gmail account to contact the media outlet.
I think it proves that top secret clearance isn't that hard to get, especially if you are ex-military, which she is.
Do people still believe that MAT is a legitimate sub? There was a fucking SRD post that detailed the shenanigans with the mods paying money and shit. No amount of ELI5 or outoftheloop posts will satisfy the r/all crowd.
As far as I've read, she was there less than 90 days before doing this. After the Intercept's fuck up, it's been fun to watch Greenwald/Assange Twitter tear itself apart.
She deserves to go to jail for being stupid enough to leak a document that's not all that interesting and for going to a rag run by clowns.
it took me far too long to realize this was about someone literally named "reality winner" and not some z-list celebrity who had somehow gotten a hold of classified documents, which honestly would've made more sense
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n/a kogami-shinya 2017-06-06
/u/barawo33, you are a karmawhore faggot.
n/a A6MZer0 2017-06-06
SHE WANTED YOU TO SEE THE TRUTH. THIS JUST HAPPENED AND WENT LIVE ABOUT 10 MINUTES AGO. HIT UPVOTE SO PEOPLE SEE THE TRUTH.
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n/a DiversityIsKekistani 2017-06-06
HIS NAME WAS MR SKELTEL
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-06-06
paging /u/The_reason_trump_won
n/a niggerpenis 2017-06-06
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n/a DiversityIsKekistani 2017-06-06
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n/a Imgur_Lurker 2017-06-06
From the sub that brought you a HuffPo article written by a Nigerian of that hit #1 20K+ Karma of Fake News.
n/a froibo 2017-06-06
Admins need to purge this bullshit. Gotten way out of hand on both ends.
n/a Basically_Trash 2017-06-06
But then we'd lose about 80% of the content on this sub
n/a froibo 2017-06-06
Tru dat
n/a TheJum 2017-06-06
I mean, I'm sure there are still some people out there who still believe that Trump paid Russian hookers to piss all over a bed the Obamas had once slept in.
Aside: anyone else remember all the talk leading up to the election about how it "couldn't be fixed!"
I'm also just going to go ahead and bring up all the cries for "solidarity" because "we are all Americans, after all" by many on the left around the same time as the above.
n/a OldOrder 2017-06-06
Was really hoping that the hooker piss story was gonna be tru tho
n/a HivemindBuster 2017-06-06
I mean it's yet to be disproved.
n/a Sloppysloppyjoe 2017-06-06
does it matter if it affected votes? it's still arguably an act of war to cyberattack and attempt to influence, no?
n/a headasplodes 2017-06-06
People need to learn what it actually means when someone gets arrested
n/a kitemail 2017-06-06
33 HERE. YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY MAKE A CHANGE FINALLY? HIT SUBSCRIBE THEN. THIS IS ENOUGH. IMAGINE IF EVERYONE ON REDDIT READING THIS RIGHT NOW TOOK THE TIME AND ACTUALLY SUBSCRIBED AND HIT THE BUTTON. THE TRUTH COULD BE SEEN AND THE IMPACT WOULD BE HUGE. OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE YOU SEE WHAT THEY ARE HIDING. WE ARE GETTING BEAT DOWN DAY IN AND DAY OUT BY TRUMP AND ALT-RIGHT SUPPORTERS AND IM FED UP. WE HAVE MODS QUIT MONTHLY BECAUSE ITS JUST TOO MUCH BEING DOXXED AND ATTACKED. I AM ALMOST READY TO LEAVE MYSELF AND SHUTDOWN. SOMEONE MESSAGED ME YESTERDAY AND THEIR USER NAME WAS MY HOME ADDRESS. I BLOCKED THEM AND THEY MESSAGED ME AGAIN WITH MY CHILDS NAME AS THEIR USER NAME. THAT IS NOT RIGHT, BUT IM NOT STOPPING. DOXX ME ALL YOU WANT. THEY ARE ENDLESS AND WILL DO ANYTHING TO STOP US THOUGH. WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT AND SO DOES THE RESISTANCE SO HIT SUBSCRIBE AND THEY CAN SEE THAT THEY CANT JUST SHUT US DOWN. STAND UP REDDIT OR WE WILL BE GONE TOO. THIS IS NO JOKE ANYMORE. YOU NEED TO REALIZE EVENTUALLY THEY WILL MAKE REDDIT BAN ME BECAUSE TRUMP IS A DICTATOR. KEEP FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT THOUGH AND NEVER QUIT. "LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL" ISN'T JUST A SAYING. AMERICA WAS FOUNDED ON IT AND DONALD TRUMP WILL MEET LADY LIBERTY EVENTUALLY. EDIT: <3 you all for the support.
BREAKING CNN: THIS IS REAL AND WE MUST TAKE ACTION. SHE WANTED YOU TO SEE THE TRUTH. THIS JUST HAPPENED AND WENT LIVE ABOUT 10 MINUTES AGO. HIT UPVOTE SO PEOPLE SEE THE TRUTH. THE NEWS IS JUST STARTING TO REPORT IT. SHE RELEASED INFO THAT RUSSIA HACKED AMERICAN VOTING SYSTEMS AND SHE WANTED AMERICA TO SEE IT! ARRESTED IMMEDIATELY BY TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. THEY DONT WANT YOU OR AMERICA SEEING THIS. #RESIST
CNN LINK SHOWING ARREST. TRUE PATRIOT SHE IS. FACING 10 YEARS IN JAIL BECAUSE JEFF SESSIONS HAD HER ARRESTED ON SITE. THE SAME GUY THAT RECUSED HIMSELF BECAUSE OF RUSSIAN TIES.
Russia Executed this attack by sending spear-phishing emails to election officials before the election
She DIDNT CARE. She wanted America to see the TRUTH. DONALD TRUMP LOST THE ELECTION IN 2016.
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n/a barawo33 2017-06-06
HIS NAME WAS
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n/a wwyzzerdd 2017-06-06
Her parents should be jailed for such an egregious name.
n/a barawo33 2017-06-06
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n/a Peetrius 2017-06-06
Real talk though she got any nudes?
n/a botchlings 2017-06-06
I'd have a bit more sympathy for this woman if she wasn't treating about committing treason if the US escalates sanctions against Iran.
Beyond that she's a wannabe Manning/Snowden but instead of leaking actually useful information she released a report whose eventual conclusion was that nothing really happened...
I mean, if you want to release an anti-Trump report about voter fraud it probably shouldn't conclude that there was no fraud.
n/a RestoreFear 2017-06-06
Is attempted fraud not bad enough?
n/a botchlings 2017-06-06
No, not considering we likely do the same thing to other countries.
n/a RestoreFear 2017-06-06
I don't follow this reasoning. You aren't concerned with foreign entities attempting to interfere with our elections because our government has "probably" done the same in the past?
n/a botchlings 2017-06-06
What right do I have to be offended when our government has likely done worse than what Russia is accused of doing? It's like a thief being upset that someone stole the money he stole from someone else...
What people should be concerned about is the fact that we'd likely not be hearing about any of this if Hillary had won the election.
n/a RestoreFear 2017-06-06
I mean you can easily condemn both the actions of your own government as well those of foreign governments...
But no, you're right, I should just be focused on all of the hypothetical ways that Hillary could have fucked up instead of paying attention to what's happening in reality.
n/a botchlings 2017-06-06
No, you should be concerned by the fact that there would be no investigation had someone else one the election
n/a RestoreFear 2017-06-06
The investigation that began while Obama was still president?
n/a botchlings 2017-06-06
The investigation that only started after Trump was elected...
n/a Ngherappa 2017-06-06
You can condemn both actions. The lesser of two evil is not good.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
At no point does it say that nothing really happened. It says that massive voter fraud was attempted by the Russian government with some basically confirmed success (the likely breach of a US voter tech company) unknown final results.
If you are going to agenda post at least read the damn thing. I know reading isn't your strong point, but come on the damn thing has an infographic.
n/a headasplodes 2017-06-06
There is nothing I trust less than an infographic
n/a headasplodes 2017-06-06
There is nothing I trust less than an infographic
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
What about an infographic made by a white male?
n/a OldOrder 2017-06-06
Even less newsworthy
Mayos are notorious liars
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
BILL CLINTON IS A MAYO
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n/a OldOrder 2017-06-06
MFW
n/a botchlings 2017-06-06
I've read multiple articles since the news broke yesterday. All of them essentially say that Russia was successful in hacking a company that provided voting machines but there is no evidence that it affected vote count.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Yes. And yesterday there was no evidence that the Russian government attempted to hack US voting machines. I didn't even think they would have pushed it this hard, but those Russians are some bold and hearty vodka soaked bear fuckers.
If Clinton was at the center of this whole "baby's first international conspiracy" we got stewing here you would lose your mind shitposting about it, but it's your boy so all you can do is agenda post about how "it doesn't look like anything to me." That shit is weak as fuck.
n/a botchlings 2017-06-06
And today there's still no evidence that the hack had any effect on votes that were cast. Those are the facts. Therefore, it's accurate to say that there's no fraud.
And you'd lose your mind trying to to make excuses for why we should ignore the news, etc... so don't try and pretend you are any different than me.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Come on man, this is square one again and it's going to be less and less fun to have to keep repeating myself. This document says that there was a fraud and that it was at least partially successful. It is currently unknown if this fraud ended up changing vote totals. However, Russian attempts to directly undermine our elections, even failed attempts, are important. Evidence pointing to the existence of such an attempt is a meaningful development in an ongoing investigation.
You can tell yourself we're the same all you want, but I'm not the one out here shooting shitty, seriouspost attacks at everything that has even a whiff of going against their preferred narrative.
n/a Cloacalla_Festival 2017-06-06
If Soros owning voting machines doesn't matter and the DNC's proven attempts at voter fraud don't matter, then an email phishing attempt is not going to matter at all.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
See, this I can get behind. I honestly respect full-retard conspiracy theorist as a political position way more than I do the stubborn, hands affixed to ears administration apologist. At least you dudes are consistent.
n/a Cloacalla_Festival 2017-06-06
Well, there is video of DNC operatives discussing their voter fraud techniques, so it is really more of a fact than a theory.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
That must be why they won.
n/a Cloacalla_Festival 2017-06-06
Well, their candidate was historically bad, so it didn't work.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Ah, Soros must be one of those terriblely mighty yet completely impotent Jews.
n/a Cloacalla_Festival 2017-06-06
Watch out, this guy has read dumb Italian faggot Umberto Eco.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Foucault's Pendulum is a pretty good book tbh.
n/a Cloacalla_Festival 2017-06-06
Regardless.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
I honestly don't know what you are on about except maybe trying to prove that you know the names of authors.
n/a Cloacalla_Festival 2017-06-06
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Lol, that's dumb tho
n/a Cloacalla_Festival 2017-06-06
Clearly false!
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Check again pls
n/a captainpriapism 2017-06-06
lol dude literally owns the machines its not a conspiracy at all
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
He literally doesn't.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
SNOPES SAYS HE DOESNT LOL CHECKMATE
n/a captainpriapism 2017-06-06
theres a couple layers of separation through shell companies sort of like he does with his other orgs but its hardly a secret
are you one of those guys that acts like he hasnt done anything bad because you dont like trump, and trump people dont like him?
bit of a weird attitude
n/a botchlings 2017-06-06
No you're the guy trying to argue that something happened when there is no evidence that it did.
The Russians hacked a company the manufacures voting machines. No more, no less. No evidence that the hack had any effect on the election at all.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Yes. The Russian government hacked a voting machine company and then tried to hack 122 election officies with unknown success. No one is saying anything else. Please at least read my comments if you want to seriouspost fight with me.
The part that makes us disagree is when you look at that and say "nothing happened" because you just gotta minimize anything that could be perceived as anti-Trump. Because that's the type of dude you are.
n/a botchlings 2017-06-06
I have never said "nothing happened." I've said multiple times that Russians hacked a company that made voting machines.
The difference between you and I is that I stick to the facts without trying to make them into something they aren't.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
That's what you said. My first point was that there was a fraud (hacking the voter machine company was done via fraud). All that is unknown is whether this fraud changed votes. My other point was that even without votes being changed interpreting this report as saying that "nothing really happened" is full on Trump dick tugging. Sorry I missed the "really" when quoting you.
n/a botchlings 2017-06-06
Quote me correctly or fuck off
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Lol, no.
n/a captainpriapism 2017-06-06
clinton is at the center of it though, this dumb russia conspiracy theory only exists to cover for the fact that they had the real source of the leaks killed, and expected it not to matter because they thought theyd win
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
His name was Seth Rogan
n/a Medical_Droid 2017-06-06
His name was Rich Evans.
n/a captainpriapism 2017-06-06
uhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh
n/a captainpriapism 2017-06-06
tbh they also lie about this shit constantly so just believing them about it is dumb too
people have to realise that when the media is this desperate to tell them something its probably agenda driven
n/a subu_the_great 2017-06-06
I read the leaked doc, no support for the claim it was Russia exists within it.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
Um.....
Did you not even read it?
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
It's almost like evidence of votes changing is not the only thing that could be considered something happening.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
That isn't what you said. You said "At no point does it say nothing really happened" - this is a lie.
The report does make it quite clear that no votes were changed. Therefor, it was an unsuccessful attack. Therefore nothing really happened. It is stated plainly in the article.
I understand reading isn't your strong suit. Can you show me the quotes from the report that lead you to believe something happened?
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Brah, you need to get some perspective. I hope that no votes were changed. The reason this report matters is this because they found evidence that an attempt was made and the first level of the attack very likely had at least one success. If you had a little common sense you would find this troubling even if they currently have no evidence of vote tampering.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
That's good, because that's literally what the NSA says happened, and since you don't have even 1% of their investigative powers or talents, I'm gonna believe them over you.
There was no success. No votes were changed. That isn't up for debate. It's a fact according to the NSA, and again their capacity to know something about this exceeds yours by a vast chasm.
You're an anti-trump ideologue. You would literally believe anything negative about him. Additionally you are, right now, engaged in deceptive behavior trying to turn something that proves your general premise wrong into something that proves your general premise right.
It isn't rigged. You just lost. Get over it.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
lol, whatever man, you aren't even arguing with me at this point just sperging out at some simplistic position you can understand. My point is that even a completely failed Russian attempt to hack voter machines is a huge deal. One with at least first level success (like this one) is even more of a big deal.
It's not deceptive behavior you just genuinely can't seem to follow any level of nuance in an argument. Anyway, enjoy watching the grow ups of the world talk rationally about this while you're out here REEing for daddy on the Internet.
PS I didn't lose anything because I wasn't running for office. Get a fucking life if you feel a sense of personal accomplishment from an election
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
No it isn't. It's called espionage, and it literally happens 24/7/365.
Once again, it isn't rigged kiddo. All that happened was you lost.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Oh, so you're just a retard then, my mistake.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
You know someone has totally given up any illusion that they have a point when they just fall apart like this and have no ability to even respond to what is being said anymore.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
You just changed your whole argument to say that Russia trying to hack our election is normal and totally fine, and that's an aggressively stupid thing to say. I have no interest in arguing about whether it matters that a foreign power was trying to influence our election or whether I would be fine if it was China doing it (lol).
If you want to claim victory when the other person finds talking to you completely pointless and a little gross, you may. However, by your stringent criteria a shit covered rock is the best possible debater.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
That's not changing my argument.
Two parts, A) They failed, so nothing really happened and the article and report make this clear and B) (to counter your argument) It isn't a big deal that Russia attempted espionage.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
A) they compromised a us voter tech company and went after 122 election officials with unknown results. You can keep calling that nothing but only because you are very stupid. Read the report dummy. Or just repeat "there is no evidence that votes were changed." Which, obviously, is what you will do.
B) Hit me with an example of another country trying to swing a US election through government sponsored espionage against our political infrastructure. You know, since this kind of happens to us all the time and is no big deal. It's a good chance to show me your "global geo-politics" chops.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
False... They know the results. The report says the results of the hack. Nothing. No votes were changed. Nothing happened.
Remember the part where they said they had no evidence any votes were changed?
Okay, here's about 50.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Tl;dr you said exactly what I said you would and then gave me 23 page intro to all the espionage that's happened in the last 80 years, all of which was a huge deal and none of which was like the current situation.
Bonus points for poorly understood postmodernism bullshit.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
So you smugly ask for a source as if I can't provide one, I provide one, and you then backtrack. Classic.
You wanna try that again kiddo?
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
Holy shit you are a post modernist aren't you?
23 pages each and every one proving the point you asked for a source for: that espionage happens all the time. Why ask for proof of a point and then pretend you asked for proof of a different point? And where did you get the idea I was saying anything in the port wasn't a big deal?
Are you going to acnknowledge that that report proves my point that espionage happens all the time? Because, the part about how it wasn't a big deal isn't being sourced from that. That claim is being sourced from the NSA report.
So I have two points and two sources proving those points separately. That one of my sources doesn't prove both points is completely and totally irrelevant.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
lol, I know you don't know what postmodernism is because you tried to apply it to me when you got confused and couldn't follow the thread of my argument. You are like a lost child clinging to a favorite insult.
Neither source says that espionage such as is documented here is not a big deal and happens all the time, because those are the words of an idiot and idiots don't write many legible documents.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
You mean when you tried to use Derrida's style of framing inquiries for evidence? If you aren't a post modernist, you sure are emulating their chief trickster.
Alright so you don't have a real reply to this, and are just going to disregard sources that prove you wrong.
You know where that idea came from? Derrida.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Yeah, Derrida invented the leading question and you definitely know what you are talking about.
I didn't attack the source so much as point out it doesn't support any of your conclusions.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
He stated it was a valid thing to do in an argument.
You think a report detailing espionage doesn't prove that espionage happens regularly?
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
I think that reading that 80 years of spy history only highlights just how out of the ordinary a coordinated foreign attack against the core institutions of US democracy really is. If you want to keep parroting that there is nothing to see here that's your prerogative I guess, but oh should keep it tuned to Fox News or you risk a serious triggering. Anyway, enjoy your Derrida-infested, anti intellectual waking fever dreams.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
So even with clear proof that espionage happens very regularly, you deny that espionage happens regularly. Makes very good sense.
Everyone who disagrees with you is a caricature or just me?
You're just plain wrong. If you had a single source for what you were saying you might have had an argument, but you don't so you don't.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
You want me to source that Russia trying to undermine our system of government is a big deal? Get your shit together man.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
I'd like you to source that Russia rarely attempts to commit espionage against the American political system.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
When was the last time they did?
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
We're literally in a thread about a failed Russian attempt at espionage...
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Sooooo, you don't know. Got it. But you're very sure this is no big deal and totally normal. You seem like a careful thinker.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
Lol the last one is literally being answered in this thread... How fucking high are you? We are in a thread, right now, about a case of Russian espionage. Do you not understand that? Are you trying to say "The last one before this" because that's a different thing than "the last one"?
This is all well and good, but I see no proof for your claim that Russia rarely tries to commit espionage in the United States.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Besides the one I'm saying is a rare event and a big deal. Didn't think I had to specify.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
2015, and before that US officials said that in 2007 espionage attempts by the Russians have increased to Cold War-era levels.
Do you know more about espionage against the united states than people who hold the job of protecting us from espionage? Do you actually believe that?
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
2015 is this election cycle, the thing we are talking about. That's the very same example you've tried to pass off twice and which does not count as a separate case.
I don't think I know more than them. That's why I agree with them when they all say this election tampering is a big deal. I am agreeing with the intelligence community while you seem to have already forgotten that you are the one on the other side saying "this is no big deal."
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
Not exactly. You should actually read a bit. There was a massive spear-fishing attack and there was a direct attack. Read, read, read.
Do you have a source for intelligence officials saying this instance is a big deal? I asked you for that at the beginning too.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
2015 is of course the same cycle. Look up political cycle when you get a break from the frantic read read reading you have been doing to fail to answer my questions.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
Alright well you clearly don't have a response to me literally just explaining what actually happened, so I'll take that as ceded.
So, just so we are clear, you now acknowledge that Russian attempts to commit espionage against the united states are relativistically common, as stated clearly by intelligence officials?
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Lol, answer no questions make no points and declare that you've won and now Russian attacks on US democracy are no big deal.
Yes, that is exactly in character.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
I answered all of your questions and you ignored all of mine. What the fuck are you talking about?
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
You pointed to the Russian attacks on our democracy during the 2016 cycle as evidence that Russian attacks happen all the time and so the Russian attacks on our democracy during the 2016 cycle were not a big deal.
You can bomb me with paragraphs of rambling and poorly constructed arguments but the position that these attacks don't matter is completely untenable for anyone but the most fanatical partisan or the legitimate cognitatively impaired.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
Wait, so did I or did I not answer all of your questions? Because you absolutely ignored many of mine, and I can show them to you if you'd like.
Uh, false? I pointed to the fact that US IC senior officials clearly state that they happen regularly as evidence that they happen regularly. How many times do I have to explain this to you before you understand it?
The evidence for that is the report itself, where it says no votes were changed.
You keep doing this too. I will say "isn't a big deal" and you "paraphrase" that by saying "doesn't matter" - it's really dishonesty. I'm saying, specifically, that this attack isn't a big deal. it was failed, and no votes were changed. If it had been even a limited success, it would be different. But it was a failure.
I'm going to post some of my questions again, so I can hopefully get some answers.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
The fact that you will say Russian attacks on US democracy are a not a big deal because you think it plays badly for Trump means you gotta reevaluate your life my man.
n/a ABillionYearsOld 2017-06-06
I challenge you find anywhere I said that.
I'm glad you've abandoned the whole "you never answered my questions" thing. It was pretty bad.
So, that's three times you've been asked if you accept a proven point, that's definitely ceded. So we've established that espionage happens all the time, that means we can move on to talking about "not a big deal".
I think you're misinterpreting things badly. I will gladly rephrase the statement to "There was no influence on the election from this incident" if that's more agreeable to you?
n/a omelets4dinner 2017-06-06
If I had a time machine, I'd ignore baby Hitler and kill the guy who first started the snarky "it's almost like.." prefix on reddit.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
It's almost like it triggers you
n/a BannaHamHock 2017-06-06
Whats with the accusations of agendaposting when you're doing the same exact type of stuff bud? I don't get it.
n/a captainpriapism 2017-06-06
nobody can even quantify what russians supposedly did, they just expect everyone to take "interference" at face value
even though they have to repeatedly write disclaimers about how theres no evidence anything actually happened
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Dude, instead of replying to me 6 times you could have just read the report and then you would know something about what you are talking about.
n/a captainpriapism 2017-06-06
i know full well what im talking about, meanwhile youve only got half the information at best just because you get all your information from the same people who told you iraq had wmds
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Read all the responses you just sent me I would recommend your mom up your adderall dosage.
n/a captainpriapism 2017-06-06
lol took like 2 minutes, maybe you should be able to argue your point
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Nah, all that's left talking to me is the dregs. You've already brought up Iraq for fucks sake. There is no conversation to be had with you and I'm not interested in your ramblings.
n/a captainpriapism 2017-06-06
lol imagine being this angry because youve been wrong this entire time
dont have any sort of introspection, just lash out at people who were correct
thatll help you learn
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Annnnnd now we are at "you're mad."
You are just so depressingly predictable.
n/a captainpriapism 2017-06-06
we can all read what youve written on this topic dude, youre not exactly subtle
you wear your heart on your sleeve you could say
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Lol my position on "this topic" is that Russian hacking of the US election matters. You can talk about all the subtlety and hearts you want, but this shit is super simple and your position is super dumb.
n/a captainpriapism 2017-06-06
lol except it didnt actually happen
how do you "hack an election"? why dont you explain what you believe the spooky russians did
nigga you just took the news at face value dont pretend youre informed lol
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Isn't it weird how every time you "go deeper" into the news you come up with support for the curent positions of a political party and a billionaire politician with a compulsive lying habit. But yeah, lecture me about swallowing shit wholesale
n/a captainpriapism 2017-06-06
what are you even talking about, you havent a clue what i believe besides the fact that i dont believe you
rest assured though there arent any russian hackers
i will
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-06-06
Come on man, look at yourself. You haven't said a non brietbart approved word in years.
n/a subu_the_great 2017-06-06
I read the leaked document. It was a partially successful but ultimately failed attack on a voter registration tech company wouldn't impact votes. Also contained no evidence linking to Russia.
n/a BanSameRaceRelations 2017-06-06
Not gonna lie I thought this might be Trump telling them to leak this which just ends up proving him right.
n/a flipkt 2017-06-06
First of all, there is no publicly available links that ties her as reality winner, a NSA contractor to the twitter, instagram and facebook accounts the media published. Whoever published her social media got it from sources who investigated her.
We don't know if that's the only thing she leaked. Glenn greenwald, the original journalist who was trusted with responsibly leaking selective parts of the snowden leaks started intercept. Now, a """journalist""" from intercept was the reason winner got arrested because he didn't even know that sending the original leaked NSA document a leaker sent you back to the fucking NSA without even bothering to try to edit it to not reveal the source would compromise yoir source.
There are reports that say that the "journalist" who did this was texting people in the IC and sent them unredacted photos of the documents for verification. Wikileaks officially set a bounty of $10000 to dox this "journalist" for maliciously revealing the source and publishing it to get clicks.
n/a botchlings 2017-06-06
I think that we can be pretty confident in guessing that if she leaked anything of major significance it would be published by now, given the hard-on most reporters have for the Trump Administration.
Lesson to learn here - don't trust journalists, especially if you think they are looking our for your best interests. They aren't. Just like everyone else they are looking to advance their careers and make as much money as possible.
n/a flipkt 2017-06-06
No. My point is that whatever was published was compromised from the start.
n/a TrailerParkBride 2017-06-06
It's really too bad. Journalists used to be so adamant about protecting their sources. This chick was dumb, but The Intercept was dumber. Way to ensure that nobody sends you anything of consequence ever again.
n/a captainpriapism 2017-06-06
her facebook and twitter was full of cringey resist stuff and john oliver, its funny
shes just an idiot
n/a Medical_Droid 2017-06-06
I can understand committing treason to help Iran, but posting John Oliver is never acceptable.
n/a Karmaisforsuckers 2017-06-06
Shes a far left moron. She leaked to Glenn Greenwald, noted Trump and Putin defender and hater of all things western democracy, and they promptly "accidentaly" got her arrested hahahahaha
n/a 38h4b5b7d73u3v4 2017-06-06
Scuse me but it's 2017, if she identifies as having found evidence of voter fraud then blah blah you know how this joke goes.
n/a SpotNL 2017-06-06
Who the fuck calls their kid Reality?
n/a barawo33 2017-06-06
Ha. When I first saw it I had to check a couple other sources to confirm. My guess is her parents were hippies. All I can think of.
n/a headasplodes 2017-06-06
I feel like I'm having a stroke every time I read her name. I hope her parents were in the towers on 9/11.
n/a Mariokartfever 2017-06-06
She had her name legally changed from Sara to Reality.
What is wrong with white women?
n/a Cloacalla_Festival 2017-06-06
Their expectations have been set far higher than they can ever achieve, so they are always rage-crying inside.
n/a SpotNL 2017-06-06
That makes it worse.
I think the fault lies with America and not white women in general. You don't hear about that shit elsewhere.
n/a bigblackkittie 2017-06-06
oh dear
n/a NewStateof 2017-06-06
White men don't beat them enough.
This is what you get for letting women control every aspect of their lives
n/a rarestpepesforsale 2017-06-06
As they led prisoner 492 to the prison cell, she spat at the guards spitefully, "You can't lock away Reality like this! Someday, you'll ALL get what's coming to you! Reality has a way of biting agents of the fascist police state in their asses!"
One of the officers protectively moved a hand down to her butt when they left the cell and then sighed when the door finally closed. She'd learned like most of the prison staff, that Reality could be a real pain sometimes.
n/a a_normal_human 2017-06-06
The hilarious thing is that she was a) a contractor for the NSA with apparently top secret security clearance, and b) used a gmail account to contact the media outlet.
I mean, at that level you have to know that the NSA and FBI knowing everything that goes on on Google's servers isn't just a conspiracy theory.
n/a poopy_ass 2017-06-06
Apparently not, since you can be secretary of state and not have to know how classified markings work.
n/a LeFabulousFaggot 2017-06-06
Kek
n/a botchlings 2017-06-06
I think it proves that top secret clearance isn't that hard to get, especially if you are ex-military, which she is.
n/a BannaHamHock 2017-06-06
This is the key. It can be a fairly arduous process for civilians
n/a flipkt 2017-06-06
Do people still believe that MAT is a legitimate sub? There was a fucking SRD post that detailed the shenanigans with the mods paying money and shit. No amount of ELI5 or outoftheloop posts will satisfy the r/all crowd.
n/a CaptainMemer 2017-06-06
How the fuck did she get a job at the NSA? She seems dumb as fuck.
n/a Sesek3 2017-06-06
People will bend over backwards for people in the military
n/a GhostofRFS 2017-06-06
Contractor
Spoke three difficult languages
Clearance
Veteran
As far as I've read, she was there less than 90 days before doing this. After the Intercept's fuck up, it's been fun to watch Greenwald/Assange Twitter tear itself apart.
She deserves to go to jail for being stupid enough to leak a document that's not all that interesting and for going to a rag run by clowns.
n/a alexmikli 2017-06-06
So not dumb, just hysterical/insane.
n/a CaptainMemer 2017-06-06
I guess itโs too late for her to run off to Moscow.
n/a glmox 2017-06-06
it took me far too long to realize this was about someone literally named "reality winner" and not some z-list celebrity who had somehow gotten a hold of classified documents, which honestly would've made more sense
n/a alexmikli 2017-06-06
I assumed it was a deep-throat situation with a code name.
n/a captainpriapism 2017-06-06
lol teenagers
n/a asdfom 2017-06-06
She's going to jail. Lmao Who the fuck names their kid that?
n/a alexmikli 2017-06-06
So her name is actually Reality Winner? I thought that was a deep throat situation.