So basically admitting to having had impaired sex with a man in a country where gay men are frequently hounded and harassed is a moral duty?
Go fuck yourself. Don't patronize rape victims.
Asalam alakum, homo. Quick question: If you got that bussy tore up ISIS style and you're all pissy about it, then why are you kicking it with a buncha chicks who are super keen on bringing that goat fuckery stateside? Shouldn't you be mad pissed at Sharia my dude?
I guess I need to go back to remedial intersectionality, but where did impaired sex and hounding gay men come into this discussion? Half these comments just make no sense
Uggg.. so many "i said yed but now know it was rape" comments
And what really needs to happen to stop that is for actual rape victims to come out and tell those women to shut the fuck up, but that will never happen.
If it did happen I guarantee you we'd see feminists turn on actual rape victims in a heartbeat because after all, facts and legal code don't matter. The only thing that matters is that you feel like you might have been raped.
On a similar tangent, that tweet is exactly why some people don't take rape victims seriously. If you've been raped the first and only thing you should do is go to the police. ASAP. Delaying that automatically creates a bit of doubt in people's minds... Why didn't she go to the police? It must not have been that bad? Etc...
he only thing that matters is that you feel like you might have been raped
You may have meant that ironically/sarcastically, but that is "literally" what they are teaching kids in college these days....if you "felt" raped, then you WERE raped.
Delaying that automatically creates a bit of doubt in people's minds... Why didn't she go to the police?
I love how the response is always: "Well, there is no perfect victim...people process trauma differently." Used to explain everything from not reporting to repeatedly coming back for more from the guy who allegedly committed the rape and wanting to be in a relationship with him.
If by "process trauma differently" you meant "it sometimes takes people longer to come up with a convincing story about a random sexual encounter was actually rape" you might be on to something.
Right..i mean...it takes some time to create fake facebook accounts, track down old high school yearbooks, invent names, sign up for your own fake messaging service and then catfish the boy you want to sleep with after being raped...i totally get it.
They think that reasonable doubt is too high a standard. There is a move to either reduce the burden of proof to a civil "preponderance of the evidence" standard or expand the rape shield laws to prohibit questioning as to a victim's actions before or after the incident---both of which would raise seriously due process issues for the accused.
Isn't that how it works on college campuses? The college campuses have to deal with these allegations and they only have to do that much before they make a decision/
also "because of untested rape kits" they will not even bother to go to police but i have a feeling like they did not wanted in the first place and found a semi legitimate reason to blame someone else for their silence.
Of course they would turn on them. Hell, they even do it in this post. An alleged victim of rape being downvoted because they actively pursued justice legally to ensure what happened to them doesn't happen to anyone else, instead of just crying about it on the internet.
Fact of the matter is these people really don't give a shit about individual victims, just as long as their narrative is being pushed.
Fact of the matter is these people really don't give a shit about individual victims, just as long as their narrative is being pushed.
Right, because nothing about their narrative actually helps to prevent rape.
If they were actually interested in doing that they might acknowledge the fact that a person's behavior could play some part in them becoming a victim.
NO! You are perpetuating rape culture by actively trying to prevent rape. Instead, what you should be doing is prancing around with your tits and ass hanging out, grinding up against dudes at the club all night, inviting them back to your room, getting high with them, and then posting on facebook when you regret the fact that your asshole feels like it it has tripled in size because MUH rape culture
I really do not understand why the theft analogy is lost on them. No one accuses people of "perpetuating theft culture" or "blaming the victim" when you teach people to: 1 Don't flash around your cash/valuables; 2 don't leave your valuables unattended; 3) Don't frequent high crime areas with your valuables; 4) Don't get pass out drunk when you are in a high crime area, have flashed around your valuables, and left them unattended.
The issue of right and wrong is entirely separate from cause and effect. That concept seems to be lost on them
Because it limits women quite a lot for nonsense reasons. Nothing shows that wearing revealing clothing leads to rape. Telling people to not dress up or not get drunk or don't go to clubs is pretty rude. How would you react to someone telling you that?
"Yeah it was your fault you were beaten senseless and got lasting damages, because you want to the club and got drunk and wore a silly shirt that another guy found so ridiculous he had to beat you half to death".
Try reading what I wrote again, and realise how it could be. Imagine you were that person, beaten senseless because of a piece of attire. Imagine someone coming up to you afterwards saying, "hey, you had yourself to blame a bit didn't you. Shouldn't have worn that."
"Don't wear ugly T-shirts, you may get beaten up over them".
"Don't get drunk, someone might beat you up"
"Don't go to clubs, someone might beat you up"
The advice is stupid. People will wear whatever they want, go to clubs and get drunk. Other advice is more welcome, such as "stay with your friends", "don't accept drinks from strangers", "keep an eye on your drink at all times".
"Don't get drunk because it makes it harder to defend yourself" is actually really good advice, people just ignore it because it's not as fun to be responsible. Alcohol plays a huge part in a lot of violence, and if you are in an environment where others are drinking, you have to understand that their inhibitions are being reduced as much as your are, and that all people are prone to doing stupid, impulsive shit when they're drunk. So, not only are you reducing your own facilities, you are placing yourself in a situation where other people are as well, and it's not reasonable to expect that people will behave the same way as when they are sober, because the whole point of getting drunk is that it changes behavior and lowers inhibitions.
Ignoring that you are more vulnerable when drunk, and that other drunk people are more likely to be violent because they are drunk, is really stupid.
Oh and the reason I didn't report my rape were the following:
I had no proof. I didn't struggle. We were in a relationship at the time, we had been in a long argument before this happened and I had gone to bed in our mutual bed. He woke me up, said something snarky about me expecting him to be on the couch, and then he raped me.
I was exhausted after hours of fighting over something I don't even remember, and I was terrified. He was roughly double my size and had shown himself aggressive the entire evening. I didn't even dare to say no. I just lay there limp and hoping he would stop, hoping I could somehow escape my own body. He didn't stop.
We had mutual friends. He had family in the country we resided in at the time, I didn't. I couldn't bear the thought of having friends turn on me, believing him over me. I couldn't bear the thought of a lengthy police investigation that would undoubtedly turn up nothing. My reputation would suffer as much as his. I was worried what my workplace would say.
Rape victims take all kinds of shit into consideration before they decide if they can report the rape or not. It's not laziness, it's not cowardice. You don't get to make our scars into yet another shaming stick to beat us with.
That's the fucking point. The majority of rape cases can't be reported, because this is how they happen. It's a boyfriend, a husband, someone you know. Telling women to report their rapes isn't helping. It's ignorant.
The person you responded to wasn't talking about how women need to report rapes more. They're talking about offering practical advice like "don't get blackout drunk at a stranger's home without friends". Because while advice like that may not have helped prevent your rape, it can certainly help prevent others.
Stop framing it as fault. Its a matter of risk avoidance. No different than not leaving a sports car unlocked in a high crime area. Safety is more important than feelings.
In that case, here are some real advice for you: Don't accept drinks from strangers. Go out with friends you trust and stay with them. Watch your drink at all times, or have one of those friends watch it.
Advising women to stay away from clubs, wear Sunday church clothes or avoid alcohol isn't cutting it.
I agree with the first part.... never said women should wear sunday clothing... but getting drunk, alone, in a club while dressed like a street worket and grinding up against some dudes junk all night and then inviting him back to your place significantly enhances the chances something bad will happen
"Not Guilty" is colloquially interchangeable with the term "acquittal." An acquittal is when the accused is freed from the charges laid against them. A mistrial is separate from either a conviction or an acquittal in that the previous trial is invalid and a new one must take place. This means that the accused is in exactly the same place as if the trial had never happened. You wouldn't say that someone who has been arrested and facing a court date would be definitely "not guilty," because that hasn't been determined in a court of law.
Saying Cosby is "not guilty" is fundamentally incorrect. He is still accused and charges still lay against him. He is in almost exactly the same position now as he was the day before the trial started.
You're right. "May" is more correct. However he's not "not guilty." "Innocent until proven guilty," yes, but pointing to Cosby as an example of "the system letting rapist get away with rape" is incorrect because he still has been charged awaiting judgment.
But thats what they want. Derp down, they don't want the 'rape epidemic' to end, they don't want the wage gap to close, and they don't want to stop getting called 'cunts' on the internet. Because ultimately, anybody who makes an effort doesn't ever want to truly win. We're all LARPers, and what's a LARPer without their quest?
/u/twelvedayslate, you need to step outside of this fucking echo chamber that is telling you that your childish worldview makes an iota of fucking sense.
I have had many nightmares about pressing charges and watching him get a not guilty verdict. I always wake up in a sweat.
Yeah, life sucks and sometimes we have bad dreams about our traumatic experiences. That's called life. How you behave in the face of anxiety, self-doubt and fear says a lot about your character.
There wasn't enough evidence.
That's because it was incumbent on you to make your case, as it is with ANY FUCKING CRIME. The prosecution has to PROVE that a crime happened, not merely wait for the defense to prove that it didn't.
Would you ACTUALLY want to live in a world where people were jailed based solely on accusations? Think about it. The answer should be "no." What exactly did you want to see happen in your case? I think up until now, you've wanted to see him jailed based solely on your accusation. That is a horrible fucking worldview.
Fuck you. I am not to blame for my rapist raping someone else.
How would you feel if there's a woman who'd been raped before you, by him, who said this? You're not responsible, but you're doing nothing to stop someone who you know is dangerous. That makes you incredibly selfish.
Just because you were the victim of a crime doesn't mean that you should get a get out of being a decent human being free card. Stop pushing this notion that victims of crime can behave however the fuck they please and we're all supposed to just celebrate them for being "strong and brave." You have done nothing to demonstrate that you are strong or brave. Stop playing the "I'm a rape victim card, so you can't say anything critical to me or you're a bad person" card. Stop playing all your fucking cards. Now post bussy.
I give you gold advice on how to stop being an insufferable wimp and you choose to fixate on the one little part where I, yes, regrettably, assumed what your opinion would be about something.
I agree. /u/twelvedayslate your purity is gone now that you done gone and got yourself Cosbied. The only answer is to volunteer yourself to end a supreme gentleman's unfathomable suffering.
Might I suggest /u/ShinJoe ? He is willing to take a used female provided that she cleans and cooks him tendies.
Lots of forums hate on people. Not many have pinging rape victims to shit talk them for fun. The_donald has people saying all kinds of crazy things but not like this. I've been here before but never saw something like this.
It always fascinates me that one of the core tenants of feminism is that women should get shit for free because it's for the betterment of society.
Birth control paid for by the Government? It's good for society!
5 years of paid maternity leave? It's good for society!
Access to free abortions? It's good for society!
Remarkably, it's not incumbent on women to do what's good for society. Report an allegedly dangerous rapist to the police so he can be dealt with? It's good for society! ... But it's also hard so let's not do it.
Of course, this assumes it actually happened, but given over 50% of rapes are false accusations you are probably lying.
And that's why you muricans can't get shit done. You act as if people are individualistic, everyone in their own little world..you are not, you are part of a society.
The idea is that if your idiot son goes on a rape spree then something went wong. The doctors failed because he didn't get profesional help, the priests failed because he didn't get proper guidance and (above all else) the family failed, for raising a shit son.
If everyone just does what's best for himself, you end up with a shittier world.
If you want to make up a vague rape to fit into the reddit white feminism club, the last thing you want is a police investigation where you can get in trouble for lieing.
A rape story seems like an entry requirement to reddit feminism and coincidentally there's a lot of vague stories where no names are named and theres some excuse for not calling the police.
A rape story seems like an entry requirement to reddit feminism and coincidentally there's a lot of vague stories where no names are named and theres some excuse for not calling the police.
Ten years ago, it was extremely rare to meet a woman who'd been raped. Today it seems like every woman has been raped.
So if they're telling the truth, it means that men in the 2010s are more sexually violent than men were a century ago. My question would be how the fuck that could have possibly happened.
If every woman has been raped, then that pretty much means that every man is a rapist. How they can't see this shocks me.
A rape story seems like an entry requirement to reddit feminism and coincidentally there's a lot of vague stories where no names are named and theres some excuse for not calling the police.
Ten years ago, it was extremely rare to meet a woman who'd been raped. Today it seems like every woman has been raped.
So if they're telling the truth, it means that men in the 2010s are more sexually violent than men were a century ago. My question would be how the fuck that could have possibly happened.
If every woman has been raped, then that pretty much means that every man is a rapist. So I need them to explain that one to me.
Damn you, you actually got me with this. I totally forgot this was r/drama for a sec
That's where I'm confused. All of that sub seem to be a rape victim but it seems truly rare to meet one. I'm fairly sure none of my friends have ever been one. Am I living in a bubble?
As the incels say, there's no such thing as a female incel.
Because I just caught myself: normally I don't label human genders "male" or "female" like I'm narrating a National Geographic nature special, but when it comes to incels...
Ya know, this is just my experience but I've met a lot of male and female rape victims. The older I get the more male rape victims I meet. Well not necessarily meeting new people but people who I've known for years revealing information that is new to me. I don't think you're living in a bubble, but I would have guessed that rape was way less common when I was younger. I'm not including any rape victim stories on the internet just to be clear. I think that people deal with their realities differently but people who have been raped tend to hold it in and only tell those they trust, not shriek about it. But that's my experience so your mileage may vary.
I guess that's true. Also it may be the company I keep. RPers and board game nerds don't tend to be the social clubbing / drinking type. I mean, as much as people wanna scream about 'rape culture' etc etc, you gotta admit that you do put yourself into potentially dangerous situations if you drink until a black out comatose state. Bad people gonna bad regardless of laws.
I agree that people who drink to blackout states regardless of gender put themselves at risk for every kind of predator from pickpockets to rapists. You might be surprised about what your friends have been through. Board game nerds still get molested by their relatives and I only know one person who got raped at a bar. He is a man. I've never met anybody in real life who has unironically used the phrase rape culture. My bias from my own circles is that it seems that men who've been raped tell almost no one and are deeply ashamed. The women tend to be more candid but just chalk it up as a shitty experience, and would really only talk about it in a more intimate setting with close friends and would never use it as some badge of honor or shriek about it. I don't think drinking plays into it. Also if you're not drinking when you're playing d&d you're doing it wrong! Genuinely curious, have you ever met someone who does this in real life?
I did meet one random girl at a gig who used the phrase rape culture and spouting feminist rhetoric unironically while following my really, really uninterested friend around the bar trying to get his attention. He looked her straight in the eye and was like 'I don't believe in equal rights. Now fuck off.' She looked like he'd slapped her. It was pretty great.
And yeah, well, boozy DnD is the best part of being an adult nerd. And having fuck it money to buy whatever expensive rp books I want. But yeah. True, actual victims rarely like talking about what happened and sure, some of my friends could have some secret hidden sexual trauma but idk. Most seem to be pretty well adjusted and normal happy?
Yeah I think most rape victims are pretty well adjusted and normal. That girl is mega unhinged and deserved a verbal dress down from your friend. I think it could be argued that people like that and anybody using the term rape culture in a modern western society is really distracting from a huge problem that affects more people than we realize. People don't want to be shrieked at. I'm not saying that any of your friends got raped, just that anybody could have but some people go their whole lives without telling a soul. We should all be enjoying boozy nerdy hobbies for real. The whole thing and liars on both sides makes me really sad
Well, the definition certainly seems to have expanded considerably.
I read about a Title IX administrative proceeding recently where the theory was that the accuser (a 25-year-old woman with an Ivy League graduate degree) could not meaningfully consent to sex with a man because he had a much nicer apartment than she did (apparently, women lose all agency when confronted with a good view and tasteful interior decorating -- who knew?).
You've admitted that you spoke to a detective and that there was no evidence. So whether or not you "chose" to press charges is extremely debatable. I think you knew you couldn't press charges and that no DA would actually bring it to trial, but you want to shape your narrative to say that it was your choice somehow.
If the detective said that there was no evidence, then this means that more than 24 hours had transpired between the incident and you going to the cops. Possibly a lot more than 24 hours. This means that not only were you showered, but you'd laundered the clothes you were wearing. Furthermore, you had no text messages or correspondence that could give some insight into the situation.
If you couldn't press charges because there was no evidence, then just say that. And accept some fucking blame. If you were brutally sexually assaulted, then the second that you were able to escape from your rapist's clutches, you should have gone straight to the police. I have never heard of a victim of a violent crime who didn't seek the aid of authorities immediately after she or he was freed.
You are the reason most criminal attorneys are raging alcoholics.
Okay. So you got a rape kit. You spoke to a detective. Good. Okay.
And then you chose to not press charges because, I presume, you thought it would be too traumatic of an experience to testify.
So what are you mad about? You didn't want to go through a trial, so you didn't press charges. Fine. You have no one to be mad at here. What exactly would you liked for to have happened? That he be jailed without a trial?
You made the decision to not hold your rapist accountable. That's on you, not on anyone else. The fact that anyone is applauding you for letting a violent rapist walk is shocking. I get that trials are scary for victims, but if you have an iota of character, you go through it for the good of society.
Are you actually expecting an answer at this point and a reasonable discussion
This is /r/drama. All I "expect" is copious amounts of bussy.
or are you trying to be an asshole?
I'm not being an asshole. I'm asking questions and commenting on what you've stated.
Enough of the, "I'm a victim of an alleged rape, therefore my story should be treated as law regardless of what transpired legally, and anyone who asks me questions or seems doubtful about aspects of my narrative is a fucking woman-hating monster" shit. Stop it. You are literally accusing another human being of one of the most horrific crimes on the planet. You refused to go to trial to protect your feelings, yet you demand to be treated like someone who'd won a case.
You need to grow the fuck up. You have the thought process of a little girl. Stop surrounding yourself with people who coddle you because you play the rape card. It's doing nothing for you mentally.
There are many reasons I chose not to press charges; it's not limited to "it'd be hard to testify." Of course it's much easier to assume you know my reasons.
It's not playing the rape card when I'm admitting to an event that happened to me. I don't really care that you don't believe me, or that you think I'm the most selfish person in the world for my decisions. You know about 5% of what happened, and the aftermath, and you're assuming to know 100%.
Of course it's much easier to assume you know my reasons.
I'm not assuming anything, I'm going off of what you've told me.
It's not playing the rape card when I'm admitting to an event that happened to me.
You weren't admitting to something that happened to you, you posted a big agenda post to try to associate what happened with you with Bill Cosby, and so that everyone could have a nice THIS IS LIFE IN DRUMPF'S AMERICA!!!1!!! circlejerk.
I don't really care that you don't believe me, or that you think I'm the most selfish person in the world for my decisions.
You're posting a fuckton for someone who doesn't care.
You know about 5% of what happened, and the aftermath, and you're assuming to know 100%.
Then you should have included more details. If you post about being a rape victim in a politicized post, and the only details you include make your story sound sketchy as fuck, people who aren't brainwashed dipshits are going to call you on your bullshit.
I have not said anywhere in this post, to you or anyone else, that I refused to press charges because it would be "hard" for me.
You sure seem to think you are owed so many details. But again, if you don't believe me, that's on you. You do you, pal. I hope you never experience the pain of rape.
I have not said anywhere in this post, to you or anyone else, that I refused to press charges because it would be "hard" for me.
You said you were having nightmares about the trial. Since you haven't given a concrete reason, that's the fairest assumption.
You sure seem to think you are owed so many details.
Christ you "RAPE RAPE RAPE" feminists are annoying. You cannot have shit both ways. If you want to agendapost about how you are a sacred untouchable rape victim in order to bash Donald Trump, then you should be able to back your shit up. It's not that I'm "owed" details, it's that I'm not going to buy into your bullshit that easily.
But again, if you don't believe me, that's on you.
No, it's on you, because if you want to allege something, it's on you to convince others.
You do you, pal.
I hope you never experience the pain of rape.
I don't think you've ever experienced the pain of rape, so we'll have something in common.
My only question is how would you feel if someone could have prevented your rape, but didn't? Don't you feel like not reporting allows him/her to keep doing this, and it would be better to sacrifice a bit of your own time/energy/whatever to stop such a traumatic event from scarring someone else? Or many other people?
To answer your first question, the only person I blame for my rape is my rapist. I recognize that he very well may have raped someone before me. I'm not angry, upset, whatever at anyone who didn't report.
this is pretty sad. maybe if you had gone through with the case you would feel a bit better about things and not be so obsessed with your rape. it would be a pain for a while but you could draw a line under it knowing that you have done the right thing and done everything you can. letting a rapist go free is not doing the right thing & discouraging other people from pursuing justice is even more not the right thing. That, combined with what are obvious attempts to justify a shitty decision, and playing victim card, is why people are jumping on you so hard.
If your reason for not pursuing it was: he is loaded, he will have a great lawyer & the trial will drag out years, and my lawyer advised me that he might countersue me for defamation, and I can't afford that, then I would understand, but say that. And BTW, the underlying problem is not society is accepting of rape but actually, the court system is rigged in rich people's favour & a completely separate issue. Those people mentioned? Cosby. Rich.
you posted a big agenda post to try to associate what happened with you with Bill Cosby
not to mention /u/twelvedayslate\'s random fucking comment about philandro castile, what the fuck does that have to do with you or your bullshit story.. you're exploiting a guy's death for fucking internet points. i agree KYS
The other 95% is in the other posts and comments you make on reddit.
You have a clear obsession with being raped, complaining about rapes, and insisting on not reporting rapes. Your reddit history is filled with these things both before and after the actual rape.
Friends and relatives advising you not to pursue legal action probably didn't want you to risk going the way of Wanetta Gibson.
lol no, you do whatever you want. I'm not one of these "you have a duty to stop this lunatic from hurting other women!" types, like anyone who is assaulted has to turn into Batman.
But I do have an interest in legal stuff and the phrase "press charges" tickles my autism, because people then think they can go to the police and say "Hey a crime happened at me but don't even worry about it, you can just throw that report right in the trash if you want".
Thank you!! Victims of rape, domestic violence, or any crime don't decide to press charges. It is always up to the police or DA. Also once the charges are pressed, the victim becomes a witness and has no power to "drop charges". You can only decide not to cooperate with the prosecution or police and face criminal charges yourself. Thanls for pointing this out. This also tickles my autism
I guess it's similar to child abuse cases where a kid might come up and tell someone their story but backpedal on it later maybe because of pressure from the parents of something. CPS wouldn't let that go (hopefully)
I've had that happen to me at least once. Twice I suspect.
I have no idea why they do it. I guess to make you feel extra protective. Then when you find out it's bullshit you're suspicious of anyone that tell you similar.
In all seriousness, where I have seen this the most is when girls claim some guy "forced" them to give a BJ and now the thought of it "triggers" them.....they just can say "I don't like giving head."
My coworker told me about a guy who's into her at work and the feelings are not mutual. I told her to tell him in no uncertain terms that she is NOT interested and I could tell this was difficult for her. She, like when it happened to me at another job, didn't want to rock the boat. It's a fine line that we should not have to walk in order to be respected. ☹️
ETA: This guy is married with kids and one currently on the way
/u/complimentaryasshole so open relationships are bad? pls no kink shame. also I guess showing interest in a woman means you don't respect them.
Also I don't understand what this little story of office hanky panky has to do with rape. Christ these bitches think every fucking little thing is rape.
Open relationships are not bad, but if his relationship was open he would have disclosed it. Considering what I know of him that is also highly unlikely. Anyone in an open relationship is secure enough to be open about it when pursuing a romantic interest.
Showing interest in a woman isn't disrespectful if you respect her rejection and leave her alone. He is not, and had not. She was trying to tell him gently since last week, he finally "got it" on Tuesday. Meanwhile, because he did not listen, it's made her so uncomfortable she has chosen to work at another location whenever possible.
Let me be clear here, my post is not an attack on this man who may be kinky and likes to test the waters. My post is an example of harassment that all, if not most, of your female relatives and friends have experienced in their life. Do you have a daughter? It will happen to her too and I hope to God you wouldn't respond with the same comments. The sooner you can empathize with this in your fellow man, the better off your understanding of them will be.
you jackass. I' and all my male relatives have experienced similar harassment; it's part of the human experience.
you would be better off not ascribing faults to gender. it makes you sound like a sexist. as well, your friend did not originally tell him to stop. how is he supposed to know? telekinesis?
Anyone in an open relationship is secure enough to be open about it when pursuing a romantic interest.
oh I'm sure that had he starrted out with "hey me and my wife are swingers" he definitely wouldn't be sitting with HR right now. you might actually have brain damage.
Showing interest in a woman isn't disrespectful if you respect her rejection and leave her alone. He is not, and had not.
you never indicated that she had rejected him! I'm almost at the point of believing none of this happened and you made it all up (which would be par for the course for the sub that was posted in)
I hope whoever damaged you, (growing up perhaps?) gets their just desserts. I hope you get the help you need and the love you need in this world. I hope you can find connection and acceptance, love, community and fulfillment. I hope the best for you, I really do. You are loved in this world, and what happened to you is not your fault.
A trollx feeling even remotely bad for a filthy male? Forgive me if I don't believe you. The hate in your subreddit is redpill levels on an average day
Sometimes people stop moving while their genitals are being touched. Most of these people would be perplexed if you stopped to ask permission after they shoved your hand down their pants.
I'm not saying I believe him, but all he really admits to is having an imperfect sexual encounter.
Obviously consent doesn't need to be verbal but clearly you need to be reasonably conscious to give consent.
I the same deposition Cosby admitted that he had given her a strong soporific substance (he claims it was Benadryl) to her. He admits that it his usual habit to give women drugs with a similar soporific effect such as quaaludes - which he himself refrains from specifically because it makes him sleepy - prior to having sex with them.
So he admits he gave her something which he well aware would probably render her unconscious or at least make her quite sleepy. He admits that latet on he put his hands on her. He admits she doesn't respond in any way. So admits he proceeds to touch her genitals.
These are his own words.
Nowhere does Cosby say she gave any other sign of consent at all. If she did give some kind of sign, that's rather a major oversight on his part not to mention that, isn't it?
If she did give some kind of sign, that's rather a major oversight on his part not to mention that, isn't it?
"she then took her hand and put it on top of my hand to push it in further"
Again, I don't really care what some old man I'll never meet actually did, or didn't do, but I don't think his account constitutes the "he admitted it" that everyone seems to claim it does.
Well apparently since they didn't prosecute despite you having had a rape kit done, you were willing to testify, you had clothes and all sorts of DNA evidence as mentioned above, it must be a very unbelievable story.
I am not sure why so many people with the advice of reporting it after it happens or reporting it in general are getting downvoted. I get the idea that there are rape kits that haven't been processed, but how is the solution not doing anything?
Because most of these types of cases, the types of "rapes" that TrollXers and professional feminist types claim to have experienced, are usually a booze-fueled "he said, she said" mess that wouldn't hold up in trial. It's arguable as to whether or not these situations were even rape in the first place. Victims of actual violent sexual assault aren't typically afraid to go to the police. The reason you'd be afraid to go to the police would be because deep down, underneath all of your politicized rhetoric, you know your rape claim is total BS.
But of course you cannot say that, for it is haram.
it'll be true in some cases, a horrible slander in others.
But it will be true in some cases, and that does matter. Too often, feminists approach rape through fear, and are willing to toss out every advancement our society has made because of it. To a feminist, a woman's fears is worth sacrificing any right of man over. That matters.
Eh, I was passed out like a light on a couch following a big night on my birthday and went to the police 2 months later, that's not uncommon though. The majority of perpetrators are known to the victim and although its a shitty crime it takes time to process. Granted it was easier as there were witnesses and he admitted to it on a police recording but it doesn't make going through court any less traumatic. The line of questioning from the defense is brutal and most victims understand both this and the extended timeframe for the trial to be completed.
I most definitely agree that for a lot of women there's a wider range of situations considered rape now in comparison to a few years ago. I mean, coercion in a relationship? That I really don't understand. I do tend to believe that drunk consent is different to being passed out though. But maybe I'm a bad victim I guess?
Yeah, and nobody cares, right? It's not a big deal? Lots of support from the public?
Or maybe he'll go down in history as a rapist because society doesn't actually condone that kind of thing, which is why it's big news in the first place.
society doesn't actually condone that kind of thing
Society thinks rape is the worst crime possible. Period. TrollXers act like we live in a culture that's like "FUCK YEAH RAPE RULES," but that's the opposite. Rape is viewed as being worse than murder. Personally, I'd rather be raped than murdered, because at least I'd still be alive, but what I just said is pretty much blasphemy.
Yeah, Cosby's finished. No one will remember him well. Even if he never sees the inside of a jail cell, he'll be remembered as a monster for as long as people still say his name.
There's a huge circlejerk on the walking dead where the villain negan is some kind of anti hero because he says he doesn't rape women. It makes no sense. He still tortures and murders innocent people. Having a no rape policy doesn't make someone a good person.
Dude, I'd take rape over torture any day. There, I said it. I'm a fucking wimp. That "women have a high pain threshold" shit skipped me.
I feel like the thing with rape is that most of the pain is mental. I'm not fucking denying that rape probably has more emotional trauma than any other fucking crime. I genuinely believe that the women who testify even though it's scary are fucking brave badasses.
But I mean... it's not the violent crime olympics. Murder is bad. Torture is bad. Rape is bad. We don't gotta rank them fam.
Yeah ive personally never been raped so I cant imagine what it's like but I had a creepy dude follow me around at work.. like he'd be waiting outside of the bathroom for me and it got to the point where I had to hide to get away from him at my own job. I was in such denial that it wasnt ok.
When i finally told my boss i cried like a baby haha. And that was such a small thing i cant imagine what testifying for any crime is like.
When i finally told my boss i cried like a baby haha.
That's fucking fine and that's fucking normal. People are fucked up immediately after an incident.
What's not fucking normal is when you spend the next decade of your life riding the victim train and making people uncomfortable to ever challenge you or contradict you.
Yeah and honestly when something bad happens what you wanna do is move on.. wearing it as a badge of honor is unhealthy and I dont think that most people do that- just that from the outside looking in it seems appealing because of that sweet oppression currency and so there are a lot of people who want to be victims and kinda make stuff up.
Im not saying everyone does, but when people wear it as a badge of honor and have to insert "im mentally ill", "i was a victim of ____", "i have cancer", etc in like literally everything they say when it has nothing to do with their experience you can tell theres something they want.
And i can see why it's easy to encourage that type of culture because nobody wants to straight up accuse someone of going through something tough of lying. And on a platform like reddit nobody knows each other's personal experiences.
I think that's why it's really important people dont make shit up no matter how appealing it may seem. If you really feel like your life would be better or you could easily make excuses for your actions by pretending to be a victim of unfortunate circumstances but in the end it won't make things better and you may just feel worse. In those circumstances you may need psychiatric help to evaluate why you need to manipulate people to feel better.
What's not fucking normal is when you spend the next decade of your life riding the victim train and making people uncomfortable to ever challenge you or contradict you.
This, like do you think victims of bad things back in the 1600s were like "I CAN NEVER LOOK AT A MAN THE SAME AGAIN" I have a feeling they were scarred but like all things that are scarring, you heal and move on.
There's a huge circlejerk on the walking dead where the villain negan is some kind of anti hero because he says he doesn't rape women.
He does rape though. Didn't Negan burn a guys face when he wouldn't let Negan take his wife? The threat is still there like if I broke into a couple's house and threatened to kill the husband if the wife doesn't have sex with me. It's still rape even if I make the wife say she consents.
He doesn't force his wives into making a deal, the wives choose to live a luxurious life with Negan because it's easy. He burnt that guys face because they were having relations after the deal had been made.
the wives choose to live a luxurious life with Negan because it's easy
It's pretty obvious the wife of the guy with the burnt face didn't have 100% freedom to make her choice especially when they talk to each in secret afraid that Negan might see them. She's clearly very uncomfortable when her husband and Negan are in the same room.
Well she does and she doesn't, in the comics she just marries him to make her life easier, instead of having to work for points in Negan's system. I think in the show she and her husband get caught stealing and she marries him to avoid the punishment or something.
To be frank, rape seems to be this joke that no one believes. If it happens to a woman, they are doing it for attention and they enjoyed it secretly. Or they deserved it for their clothing.
u/Shohdef, literally no one in the U.S. but in-the-closet sucking off 14-year old boys Texan fundies think this way. This isn't Saudi Arabia or Egypt.
Also whats with all the fake stories about police interactions where victims are accused of lying? Do none of these bitches have a spine? There's nothing more infuriating in the world than being told you lied about something when you didn't, so why don't they tell these "police investigators" to go stick a cactus up their anus and give themselves a prolapse?
Also whats with all the fake stories about police interactions where victims are accused of lying?
That's not what's happening.
The investigator is, shocker, investigating.
In ANY criminal investigation, the cop is going to see if they can poke holes in a victim's testimony. They wanna see the reaction to determine if they have a case.
For example, if you have a date rape case, the investigator might say, "come on, he bought you those flowers. Surely you were ready to sleep with him." They want to see if the victim is going to react with horror or say, "I mean, sort of, yeah."
Essentially, the detectives on these cases ask questions like these, then feminazis report it later as "HE ACCUSED ME OF LYING!" He didn't. He was just doing a thorough investigation before arresting someone for the most heinous crime on the planet.
I meant more about the interaction as a whole, not the fact that the police was investigating holes in the story. They act like police hate victims and want to abuse them as some sort of power trip, like they don't realize the defense will bring up the same things anyways during the actual trial, so they might as well get every angle straight immediately. I just feel like they over-exaggerate how much of an asshole the investigators are, just for pity points on the internet.
The police are literally the physichal manifestation of patriarchy. All that power and authority and masculinity concentrated in one place. A reminder of every bully that called them a whiny faggot. It's no wonder they are terrified of interaction.
Ahhhhh yes. I'm definitely sure that you tooooooootally know how it can be to be a woman in the US. News flash: this isn't some bullshit fake universe where all the assholes that hate women are trapped in a single part of the US. I live in Ohio and there's more than enough of them here, too.
Just the overall manner of your post writes like you're a Trump supporter though, so you're not really worth my time.
Lol, I'm not a woman, but if you'll let me jerk myself off for a sec, I've got a pretty good bullshit detector. When women stop exaggerating how persecuted they are in America, I'll stop calling it out. And considering my first post, it's the pretty ironic you call me a trump supporter when I begrudgingly voted Clinton. I've also never fantasized about sucking off my wife's boyfriend, so I'm definitely not a trumptard.
I encourage everyone to do what's best for their situation; this is with the understanding that unless I'm in their shoes, I don't have all the facts and it's not my place to judge.
But this is part of the problem. We need to be sympathetic to victims, but we also need to encourage them to report.
Telling them to take their time, or that they don't have to report decreases the likelihood that they will report and greatly decreases the likelihood the perp will see the back of a jail.
I definitely encourage victims to get a rape kit done. Once the physical evidence is gone, it's gone. Get the rape kit and then decide if you want to press charges.
Ok fair enough. And I agree that's important. It's better to get a rape kit done and not press charges then to do nothing at all. But it's only part of the physical evidence (there may be more evidence at the scene of the crime, that also once is gone is gone). Can't preserve a crime scene if the crime isn't reported quickly.
I'm not sure what the law is, as in whether or not it's possible to let the Police investigate the crime scene etc. but then not file charges etc. and if it's not possible, I'd support changing the law for that in the instance of sex crimes.
However, I'm also talking about the feminists (which doesn't include you) who talk about how rape kits violate a women that's just been violated and it isn't fair to pressure her to get a rape kit done.
Well, I mean, when I left my rapist's house, I wasn't in a good frame of mind. I wasn't about to call the cops to his house. I was on a one track mission to the hospital.
I don't think it's fair to pressure a rape victim to get a kit. Encourage, sure. Pressure, no. Getting a rape kit done is incredibly difficult.
i get where she's coming from. when my landlord (his name is Big Black) comes by for the rent money and i dont have it, he beats my ass and sometimes pounds it too.
sometimes i cry and cry for days afterwards but i know that if i report it the cops will just laugh and spit in my face and probably send me to prison where i will just get raped again.
Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh. How come y'all MRAs always like to say we don't live in a rape culture while simultaneously, uh, like, DUH, PROVING WE LIVE IN A FUCKING RAPE CULTURE.
Thiiiiiiiiis is rape culture. All around you, right now, right here.
How is saying it's ridiculous to call someone suggesting people "should probably report it to the police" if they're raped a "misogynist scum" making light of rape?
You are not standing up for yourself. I did not attack you. I disagreed with you. I respect you as a survivor and fully understand how difficult that can be. I still disagree.
I don't even care any more that your account is a 6hr old Poe. You responded to your own comment, and now deserve to be physically removed. Mods! Mayocide this degenerate!
Tell that to all the women who had an invasive vaginal exam after their rape, and then the rape kit never got used.
I'm sure they'd looooove to hear your theories...
So proof as a means of pressing charges against someone is a theory? Huh, you really do learn something new everyday.
Jesus, these people are dumb as sticks with the 'untested rape kit' stuff.
Yes, there are thousands of untested rape kits. Know why they're untested? Because most don't need to be. Most rape allegations are countered by a claim that sex happened, but was consensual. The kit is kept around on the off chance that something happens during trial which would require the demonstration (or lack thereof) of physical evidence, and then destroyed after x years.
It's just another one of those 100% purely emotional talking points that doesn't stand up to the slightest bit of scrutiny, but any attempt at scrutinizing is considered 'hateful' and 'oppressive'.
This was the fear that kept me from reporting it. At the time I was even unsure of what had really happened. I only remembered bits and pieces and the feeling in my gut about what had happened.
The system cant effectively prosecute someone based on "I think I wad raped, not sure, kinda a gut feeling." That isnt a problem with the system, that is a problem with ypur testimony and the fact that the system have to allow for fair proceedings.
I was in no way mentally capable of defending myself if I was interrogated by the people I went to for help in the first place.
Refer to above. What do you expect them to do? Believe you 100% throw the guy in a dark cell, and never talk about it again?
It is something I worry about every time I think about the fact that I didn't say something, and how many other people might have been put in the same situation. But at the same time, me going through that, might not have resulted in any different outcome other than me going through a shit show on top of everything else. And I really wasn't ready to face my family in any way about it either. In fact I don't think most of my family even knows about it even over 10 years later.
/u/scoobysnaxxx apparently lives in a universe where everyone is part of a Lifetime drama. Lol
i was forced to report in therapy as a kid. nothing came of it, of course. and my therapists have called CPS numerous times to report abuse, and ofc nothing came from that, either. my friend tried to report sexual assault and abuse to a school councelor and got laughed out of the office. another came in with a black eye and was told she was a liar. a friend got the shit beat out of her until she was concussed with broken fingers and then she got in trouble for running away from an abusive home after no one would help her. a friend's dad raped her and kept her and her sibling locked in the attic for days at a time without food or water, while his stepchildren were treated perfectly. i've been sexually, emotionally and physically abused by various people through various points, and no one in a position of authority ever lifted a finger to help. never lifted a finger to help my friends, my relatives, my fucking parents who were both sexually abused themselves. why bother reporting? nothing will ever be done for any of us unless we do it ourselves.
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n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
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n/a Scrapple666 2017-06-21
Wow, a sub exists that claims gayness isn't real. Or rather of course there is
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-06-21
Show em I like em!
n/a Butch_Patterson 2017-06-21
Salami I like it
n/a Hitlery_Clinton 2017-06-21
I guess I need to go back to remedial intersectionality, but where did impaired sex and hounding gay men come into this discussion? Half these comments just make no sense
n/a mehforeverybody 2017-06-21
And thus nickname " Professional victims" comes into play again.
n/a HeroSix 2017-06-21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwVNuyfhF0Q
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
Uggg.. so many "i said yed but now know it was rape" comments
n/a HobbesCalvinandLocke 2017-06-21
Rape is sex you regret, redpiller.
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
And all sex is rape ergo all regret is sex?
n/a Ankle_Drag 2017-06-21
At some point we should discuss instant regret. Is there a way for regrets to last?
n/a RamboButGayer 2017-06-21
Fatties always rape me when I have too much to drink :(
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
Me too..and they never even have the common courtesy to make me an omelet before they leave.
n/a ComedicPause 2017-06-21
No post-rape omelettes? That's a raw deal.
n/a botchlings 2017-06-21
And what really needs to happen to stop that is for actual rape victims to come out and tell those women to shut the fuck up, but that will never happen.
If it did happen I guarantee you we'd see feminists turn on actual rape victims in a heartbeat because after all, facts and legal code don't matter. The only thing that matters is that you feel like you might have been raped.
On a similar tangent, that tweet is exactly why some people don't take rape victims seriously. If you've been raped the first and only thing you should do is go to the police. ASAP. Delaying that automatically creates a bit of doubt in people's minds... Why didn't she go to the police? It must not have been that bad? Etc...
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
You may have meant that ironically/sarcastically, but that is "literally" what they are teaching kids in college these days....if you "felt" raped, then you WERE raped.
n/a Kekistanian9000 2017-06-21
colleges should be reformed to gas chambers
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
I love how the response is always: "Well, there is no perfect victim...people process trauma differently." Used to explain everything from not reporting to repeatedly coming back for more from the guy who allegedly committed the rape and wanting to be in a relationship with him.
n/a botchlings 2017-06-21
If by "process trauma differently" you meant "it sometimes takes people longer to come up with a convincing story about a random sexual encounter was actually rape" you might be on to something.
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
Right..i mean...it takes some time to create fake facebook accounts, track down old high school yearbooks, invent names, sign up for your own fake messaging service and then catfish the boy you want to sleep with after being raped...i totally get it.
n/a bostonbob1987 2017-06-21
I am interested what they think would count as reasonable doubt in a rape case.
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
They think that reasonable doubt is too high a standard. There is a move to either reduce the burden of proof to a civil "preponderance of the evidence" standard or expand the rape shield laws to prohibit questioning as to a victim's actions before or after the incident---both of which would raise seriously due process issues for the accused.
n/a ThatGaymer 2017-06-21
Isn't that how it works on college campuses? The college campuses have to deal with these allegations and they only have to do that much before they make a decision/
n/a Kekistanian9000 2017-06-21
also "because of untested rape kits" they will not even bother to go to police but i have a feeling like they did not wanted in the first place and found a semi legitimate reason to blame someone else for their silence.
n/a ThaProfBaws 2017-06-21
Of course they would turn on them. Hell, they even do it in this post. An alleged victim of rape being downvoted because they actively pursued justice legally to ensure what happened to them doesn't happen to anyone else, instead of just crying about it on the internet.
Fact of the matter is these people really don't give a shit about individual victims, just as long as their narrative is being pushed.
n/a violetdaze 2017-06-21
Probably the only logical person in that thread and they get downvoted.
n/a ragazzo_soup 2017-06-21
Logic and /r/TrollXChromosomes do not go well together.
n/a ______________pewpew 2017-06-21
Women amirite
n/a botchlings 2017-06-21
Right, because nothing about their narrative actually helps to prevent rape.
If they were actually interested in doing that they might acknowledge the fact that a person's behavior could play some part in them becoming a victim.
n/a Kekistanian9000 2017-06-21
if i was a woman i'd totally spent some time to learn how not to get fukken raped and how to spot that shit if possible.
but knowledge is partiarchy so what do i know.
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
NO! You are perpetuating rape culture by actively trying to prevent rape. Instead, what you should be doing is prancing around with your tits and ass hanging out, grinding up against dudes at the club all night, inviting them back to your room, getting high with them, and then posting on facebook when you regret the fact that your asshole feels like it it has tripled in size because MUH rape culture
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
I really do not understand why the theft analogy is lost on them. No one accuses people of "perpetuating theft culture" or "blaming the victim" when you teach people to: 1 Don't flash around your cash/valuables; 2 don't leave your valuables unattended; 3) Don't frequent high crime areas with your valuables; 4) Don't get pass out drunk when you are in a high crime area, have flashed around your valuables, and left them unattended.
The issue of right and wrong is entirely separate from cause and effect. That concept seems to be lost on them
n/a PolishPugLady 2017-06-21
But you just need to teach thieves not to steal!
n/a Slyndrr 2017-06-21
Because it limits women quite a lot for nonsense reasons. Nothing shows that wearing revealing clothing leads to rape. Telling people to not dress up or not get drunk or don't go to clubs is pretty rude. How would you react to someone telling you that?
"Yeah it was your fault you were beaten senseless and got lasting damages, because you want to the club and got drunk and wore a silly shirt that another guy found so ridiculous he had to beat you half to death".
n/a im-a-koala 2017-06-21
Talking about ways to prevent a crime from happening to you isn't blaming the victim.
n/a Slyndrr 2017-06-21
Try reading what I wrote again, and realise how it could be. Imagine you were that person, beaten senseless because of a piece of attire. Imagine someone coming up to you afterwards saying, "hey, you had yourself to blame a bit didn't you. Shouldn't have worn that."
"Don't wear ugly T-shirts, you may get beaten up over them".
"Don't get drunk, someone might beat you up"
"Don't go to clubs, someone might beat you up"
The advice is stupid. People will wear whatever they want, go to clubs and get drunk. Other advice is more welcome, such as "stay with your friends", "don't accept drinks from strangers", "keep an eye on your drink at all times".
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
I guess i will wear my i hate negros shirt in the ghetto then because muh free speach and right to wear what i want
n/a Unicorn_Abattoir 2017-06-21
"Don't get drunk because it makes it harder to defend yourself" is actually really good advice, people just ignore it because it's not as fun to be responsible. Alcohol plays a huge part in a lot of violence, and if you are in an environment where others are drinking, you have to understand that their inhibitions are being reduced as much as your are, and that all people are prone to doing stupid, impulsive shit when they're drunk. So, not only are you reducing your own facilities, you are placing yourself in a situation where other people are as well, and it's not reasonable to expect that people will behave the same way as when they are sober, because the whole point of getting drunk is that it changes behavior and lowers inhibitions.
Ignoring that you are more vulnerable when drunk, and that other drunk people are more likely to be violent because they are drunk, is really stupid.
n/a Slyndrr 2017-06-21
Oh and the reason I didn't report my rape were the following:
I had no proof. I didn't struggle. We were in a relationship at the time, we had been in a long argument before this happened and I had gone to bed in our mutual bed. He woke me up, said something snarky about me expecting him to be on the couch, and then he raped me.
I was exhausted after hours of fighting over something I don't even remember, and I was terrified. He was roughly double my size and had shown himself aggressive the entire evening. I didn't even dare to say no. I just lay there limp and hoping he would stop, hoping I could somehow escape my own body. He didn't stop.
We had mutual friends. He had family in the country we resided in at the time, I didn't. I couldn't bear the thought of having friends turn on me, believing him over me. I couldn't bear the thought of a lengthy police investigation that would undoubtedly turn up nothing. My reputation would suffer as much as his. I was worried what my workplace would say.
Rape victims take all kinds of shit into consideration before they decide if they can report the rape or not. It's not laziness, it's not cowardice. You don't get to make our scars into yet another shaming stick to beat us with.
n/a im-a-koala 2017-06-21
Touching, but entirely irrelevant to the point. Offering practical advice isn't blaming someone.
Either way, I'm not sure what you think the law should do. Obviously your ex shouldn't be jailed if there's no evidence.
n/a Slyndrr 2017-06-21
That's the fucking point. The majority of rape cases can't be reported, because this is how they happen. It's a boyfriend, a husband, someone you know. Telling women to report their rapes isn't helping. It's ignorant.
n/a im-a-koala 2017-06-21
The person you responded to wasn't talking about how women need to report rapes more. They're talking about offering practical advice like "don't get blackout drunk at a stranger's home without friends". Because while advice like that may not have helped prevent your rape, it can certainly help prevent others.
n/a Slyndrr 2017-06-21
It's what the entire comment section is about. Read the OP.
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
Stop framing it as fault. Its a matter of risk avoidance. No different than not leaving a sports car unlocked in a high crime area. Safety is more important than feelings.
n/a Slyndrr 2017-06-21
So you're fine with comforting a friend who was beaten half to death with "you shouldn't have worn that shirt mate"?
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
I'm concerned with safety and prevention not comfort
n/a Slyndrr 2017-06-21
In that case, here are some real advice for you: Don't accept drinks from strangers. Go out with friends you trust and stay with them. Watch your drink at all times, or have one of those friends watch it.
Advising women to stay away from clubs, wear Sunday church clothes or avoid alcohol isn't cutting it.
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
I agree with the first part.... never said women should wear sunday clothing... but getting drunk, alone, in a club while dressed like a street worket and grinding up against some dudes junk all night and then inviting him back to your place significantly enhances the chances something bad will happen
n/a bostonbob1987 2017-06-21
Which is incredibly insulting to rape victims. Rape is a serious crime. The idea that you could sneak it by someone is fucking ridiculous.
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
Indeed...they seem to have no problem with the notion that (in their view) a guy can commit rape and not know it.
n/a Chicup 2017-06-21
Woman: Wow that sex was great!
Man: Surprise, I secretly raped you!
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
Only works the other way around
n/a SithisTheDreadFather 2017-06-21
A MISTRIAL DOES NOT MEAN THE ACCUSED IS NOT GUILTY
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
Holy fuck man... liek chill or something bro...
n/a Unicorn_Abattoir 2017-06-21
I mean, even an innocent verdict doesn't mean that someone isn't guilty.
n/a SithisTheDreadFather 2017-06-21
You're right: acquittal just means you are free from the charges. It does not presume guilt or innocence, just that the court was unable to convict.
n/a Ylajali_2002 2017-06-21
Even never being charged or accused doesn't mean someone isn't guilty.
n/a Ankle_Drag 2017-06-21
Well, it kinda does since you're not guilty until a guilty verdict. It's just mistrial is not "not guilty" verdict ^
n/a SithisTheDreadFather 2017-06-21
"Not Guilty" is colloquially interchangeable with the term "acquittal." An acquittal is when the accused is freed from the charges laid against them. A mistrial is separate from either a conviction or an acquittal in that the previous trial is invalid and a new one must take place. This means that the accused is in exactly the same place as if the trial had never happened. You wouldn't say that someone who has been arrested and facing a court date would be definitely "not guilty," because that hasn't been determined in a court of law.
Saying Cosby is "not guilty" is fundamentally incorrect. He is still accused and charges still lay against him. He is in almost exactly the same position now as he was the day before the trial started.
n/a Ankle_Drag 2017-06-21
Sure, that's why people say "Innocent until proven guilty".
Not "must". "May".
If we're talking legal definition of his legal status - it's absolutely correct. No guilty verdict - not guilty.
n/a SithisTheDreadFather 2017-06-21
You're right. "May" is more correct. However he's not "not guilty." "Innocent until proven guilty," yes, but pointing to Cosby as an example of "the system letting rapist get away with rape" is incorrect because he still has been charged awaiting judgment.
n/a Kekistanian9000 2017-06-21
literally if you don't report the only thing left for you it to bitch about much patriarchy online.
n/a trj820 2017-06-21
But thats what they want. Derp down, they don't want the 'rape epidemic' to end, they don't want the wage gap to close, and they don't want to stop getting called 'cunts' on the internet. Because ultimately, anybody who makes an effort doesn't ever want to truly win. We're all LARPers, and what's a LARPer without their quest?
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
/u/twelvedayslate, you need to step outside of this fucking echo chamber that is telling you that your childish worldview makes an iota of fucking sense.
Yeah, life sucks and sometimes we have bad dreams about our traumatic experiences. That's called life. How you behave in the face of anxiety, self-doubt and fear says a lot about your character.
That's because it was incumbent on you to make your case, as it is with ANY FUCKING CRIME. The prosecution has to PROVE that a crime happened, not merely wait for the defense to prove that it didn't.
Would you ACTUALLY want to live in a world where people were jailed based solely on accusations? Think about it. The answer should be "no." What exactly did you want to see happen in your case? I think up until now, you've wanted to see him jailed based solely on your accusation. That is a horrible fucking worldview.
How would you feel if there's a woman who'd been raped before you, by him, who said this? You're not responsible, but you're doing nothing to stop someone who you know is dangerous. That makes you incredibly selfish.
Just because you were the victim of a crime doesn't mean that you should get a get out of being a decent human being free card. Stop pushing this notion that victims of crime can behave however the fuck they please and we're all supposed to just celebrate them for being "strong and brave." You have done nothing to demonstrate that you are strong or brave. Stop playing the "I'm a rape victim card, so you can't say anything critical to me or you're a bad person" card. Stop playing all your fucking cards. Now post bussy.
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
stop using logic please..hate facts are illegal
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
If someone was raped before me by my rapist, I wouldn't blame her in the slightest. I wouldn't think she's selfish for doing what's best for her.
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
I give you gold advice on how to stop being an insufferable wimp and you choose to fixate on the one little part where I, yes, regrettably, assumed what your opinion would be about something.
I don't feel sorry for you. KYS
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
Ok.
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
Show us your tits. C'MON. You know you love the attention.
n/a Peetrius 2017-06-21
If you're already damaged goods I'd suggest offering yourself over to the good fellas at /r/incels.
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
I agree. /u/twelvedayslate your purity is gone now that you done gone and got yourself Cosbied. The only answer is to volunteer yourself to end a supreme gentleman's unfathomable suffering.
Might I suggest /u/ShinJoe ? He is willing to take a used female provided that she cleans and cooks him tendies.
n/a ShinJoe 2017-06-21
Enough of the gangstalking. I'm sorry I dried up your vagina with the truth.
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
wut
You bashed pregnant women. I've never been pregnant. I'm as moist as ever fam.
n/a lifesbrink 2017-06-21
For a woman, you type remarkably like an angry man.
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
I don't know what to tell you, buddy. All female.
I'm glad you got molested. I think you were probably asking for it. Now kill yourself.
n/a lifesbrink 2017-06-21
Already done, buddy
n/a straighteighth 2017-06-21
So unrelated to your post, I've been looking at this lovely users posts a few days after you. Lovely, isn't he...
He's a racist prick but he likes Blacked porn.
n/a ShinJoe 2017-06-21
Are you so retarded that you replied to a deleted account?
n/a FreshHotTakes 2017-06-21
Damn, this is one evil sub.
n/a Ardvarkeating101 2017-06-21
Welcome to /r/drama. We have equal hatred for everyone and lots and lots of bussy.
n/a FreshHotTakes 2017-06-21
I knew there was plenty of hatred. I never knew people were this shitty to people.
n/a Ardvarkeating101 2017-06-21
What exactly about the word "hatred" implies that we would be nice to people?
Is it that the word "hat" is in there to imply class? Believe me, it's a mere coincidence.
n/a FreshHotTakes 2017-06-21
Lots of forums hate on people. Not many have pinging rape victims to shit talk them for fun. The_donald has people saying all kinds of crazy things but not like this. I've been here before but never saw something like this.
n/a Ardvarkeating101 2017-06-21
Well damn, now you're just making tear up. So proud of our little hate speech!
Bull-fucking-shit. If you'd been here before you should know exactly what happens to every single person who comes here.
n/a FreshHotTakes 2017-06-21
That is obvious.
This whole thing is pathetic.
n/a Ardvarkeating101 2017-06-21
Wow. That's really hurtful man.
Mods, plz ban this hateful meanie.
n/a Wait____________What 2017-06-21
I love telling rape jokes because rape victims always apologize to me afterwards.
n/a FreshHotTakes 2017-06-21
Oh man, you got me there.
n/a Wait____________What 2017-06-21
The worst part about telling a rape joke to a rape victim is they don't have anyone to share it with.
n/a yourshittytherapist 2017-06-21
You know that it's not serious right? Half the posts in this thread are saying to not take things too seriously
n/a FreshHotTakes 2017-06-21
That makes it worse.
n/a randomuser5632 2017-06-21
hahahahaha
n/a DeepDickedHillybilly 2017-06-21
It always fascinates me that one of the core tenants of feminism is that women should get shit for free because it's for the betterment of society.
Birth control paid for by the Government? It's good for society!
5 years of paid maternity leave? It's good for society!
Access to free abortions? It's good for society!
Remarkably, it's not incumbent on women to do what's good for society. Report an allegedly dangerous rapist to the police so he can be dealt with? It's good for society! ... But it's also hard so let's not do it.
Of course, this assumes it actually happened, but given over 50% of rapes are false accusations you are probably lying.
n/a xjapxn 2017-06-21
It's tenets for fucks sake
n/a DeepDickedHillybilly 2017-06-21
Fuck you you slant eyed nip
n/a JasonJewnova 2017-06-21
You tell that Tojo
n/a xjapxn 2017-06-21
Bitch I'm white as a stack of copy paper
n/a LSU_Coonass 2017-06-21
The. Why haven't you gone to the oven yet?
n/a xjapxn 2017-06-21
I'm a traitor
n/a randomuser5632 2017-06-21
Ive never liked /r/drama till this post. Hahahaha, thanks.
n/a xjapxn 2017-06-21
I'm so sorry
n/a Kekistanian9000 2017-06-21
yes you would, lying bitch.
n/a RobBobGlove 2017-06-21
And that's why you muricans can't get shit done. You act as if people are individualistic, everyone in their own little world..you are not, you are part of a society.
The idea is that if your idiot son goes on a rape spree then something went wong. The doctors failed because he didn't get profesional help, the priests failed because he didn't get proper guidance and (above all else) the family failed, for raising a shit son.
If everyone just does what's best for himself, you end up with a shittier world.
n/a autistitron 2017-06-21
/u/twelvedayslate is bullshitting.
If you want to make up a vague rape to fit into the reddit white feminism club, the last thing you want is a police investigation where you can get in trouble for lieing.
A rape story seems like an entry requirement to reddit feminism and coincidentally there's a lot of vague stories where no names are named and theres some excuse for not calling the police.
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
Ten years ago, it was extremely rare to meet a woman who'd been raped. Today it seems like every woman has been raped.
So if they're telling the truth, it means that men in the 2010s are more sexually violent than men were a century ago. My question would be how the fuck that could have possibly happened.
If every woman has been raped, then that pretty much means that every man is a rapist. How they can't see this shocks me.
n/a sheepinblack 2017-06-21
Damn you, you actually got me with this. I totally forgot this was r/drama for a sec
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
I know, I'm being an autistic lolcow faggot rn who posts seriously to drama.
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
Feminists: Someone finally understands!
n/a krautkid 2017-06-21
That's where I'm confused. All of that sub seem to be a rape victim but it seems truly rare to meet one. I'm fairly sure none of my friends have ever been one. Am I living in a bubble?
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
No.
What's happening is that extreme feminists turn some drunken sex that they regret into rape.
Literally all of us have had drunken sex that we regret. The difference is that we don't classify it as rape.
n/a Bucklar 2017-06-21
You overestimate the frequency of sex for many, many men.
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
Maybe it's just a chick thing.
n/a Bucklar 2017-06-21
As the incels say, there's no such thing as a female incel.
Because I just caught myself: normally I don't label human genders "male" or "female" like I'm narrating a National Geographic nature special, but when it comes to incels...
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
Look, all I'm saying is, the women who've had sex with you definitely regret it.
n/a Bucklar 2017-06-21
I can tell you for a fact that the ones who paid for it do.
n/a randomuser5632 2017-06-21
HAhahaha
n/a AyyKay47 2017-06-21
No it's called there's no penalty for lying on the internet
n/a HUNTforREDcucktober 2017-06-21
Ya know, this is just my experience but I've met a lot of male and female rape victims. The older I get the more male rape victims I meet. Well not necessarily meeting new people but people who I've known for years revealing information that is new to me. I don't think you're living in a bubble, but I would have guessed that rape was way less common when I was younger. I'm not including any rape victim stories on the internet just to be clear. I think that people deal with their realities differently but people who have been raped tend to hold it in and only tell those they trust, not shriek about it. But that's my experience so your mileage may vary.
n/a krautkid 2017-06-21
I guess that's true. Also it may be the company I keep. RPers and board game nerds don't tend to be the social clubbing / drinking type. I mean, as much as people wanna scream about 'rape culture' etc etc, you gotta admit that you do put yourself into potentially dangerous situations if you drink until a black out comatose state. Bad people gonna bad regardless of laws.
n/a HUNTforREDcucktober 2017-06-21
I agree that people who drink to blackout states regardless of gender put themselves at risk for every kind of predator from pickpockets to rapists. You might be surprised about what your friends have been through. Board game nerds still get molested by their relatives and I only know one person who got raped at a bar. He is a man. I've never met anybody in real life who has unironically used the phrase rape culture. My bias from my own circles is that it seems that men who've been raped tell almost no one and are deeply ashamed. The women tend to be more candid but just chalk it up as a shitty experience, and would really only talk about it in a more intimate setting with close friends and would never use it as some badge of honor or shriek about it. I don't think drinking plays into it. Also if you're not drinking when you're playing d&d you're doing it wrong! Genuinely curious, have you ever met someone who does this in real life?
n/a krautkid 2017-06-21
I did meet one random girl at a gig who used the phrase rape culture and spouting feminist rhetoric unironically while following my really, really uninterested friend around the bar trying to get his attention. He looked her straight in the eye and was like 'I don't believe in equal rights. Now fuck off.' She looked like he'd slapped her. It was pretty great.
And yeah, well, boozy DnD is the best part of being an adult nerd. And having fuck it money to buy whatever expensive rp books I want. But yeah. True, actual victims rarely like talking about what happened and sure, some of my friends could have some secret hidden sexual trauma but idk. Most seem to be pretty well adjusted and normal happy?
n/a HUNTforREDcucktober 2017-06-21
Yeah I think most rape victims are pretty well adjusted and normal. That girl is mega unhinged and deserved a verbal dress down from your friend. I think it could be argued that people like that and anybody using the term rape culture in a modern western society is really distracting from a huge problem that affects more people than we realize. People don't want to be shrieked at. I'm not saying that any of your friends got raped, just that anybody could have but some people go their whole lives without telling a soul. We should all be enjoying boozy nerdy hobbies for real. The whole thing and liars on both sides makes me really sad
n/a skeetsurfing1984 2017-06-21
Well, the definition certainly seems to have expanded considerably.
I read about a Title IX administrative proceeding recently where the theory was that the accuser (a 25-year-old woman with an Ivy League graduate degree) could not meaningfully consent to sex with a man because he had a much nicer apartment than she did (apparently, women lose all agency when confronted with a good view and tasteful interior decorating -- who knew?).
n/a evannever 2017-06-21
Incels, the last non-rapists
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
Except I did speak with a detective. I chose not to press charges.
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
Okay, you're backtracking. You said:
You've admitted that you spoke to a detective and that there was no evidence. So whether or not you "chose" to press charges is extremely debatable. I think you knew you couldn't press charges and that no DA would actually bring it to trial, but you want to shape your narrative to say that it was your choice somehow.
If the detective said that there was no evidence, then this means that more than 24 hours had transpired between the incident and you going to the cops. Possibly a lot more than 24 hours. This means that not only were you showered, but you'd laundered the clothes you were wearing. Furthermore, you had no text messages or correspondence that could give some insight into the situation.
If you couldn't press charges because there was no evidence, then just say that. And accept some fucking blame. If you were brutally sexually assaulted, then the second that you were able to escape from your rapist's clutches, you should have gone straight to the police. I have never heard of a victim of a violent crime who didn't seek the aid of authorities immediately after she or he was freed.
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
I could press charges. The detective called me quite frequently. I said "the cop couldn't help if there's no evidence" in a general way.
I went to the hospital immediately after my rape and got a rape kit. I hadn't showered, changed clothes, or even used the restroom.
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
head desk
You are the reason most criminal attorneys are raging alcoholics.
Okay. So you got a rape kit. You spoke to a detective. Good. Okay.
And then you chose to not press charges because, I presume, you thought it would be too traumatic of an experience to testify.
So what are you mad about? You didn't want to go through a trial, so you didn't press charges. Fine. You have no one to be mad at here. What exactly would you liked for to have happened? That he be jailed without a trial?
You made the decision to not hold your rapist accountable. That's on you, not on anyone else. The fact that anyone is applauding you for letting a violent rapist walk is shocking. I get that trials are scary for victims, but if you have an iota of character, you go through it for the good of society.
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
Are you actually expecting an answer at this point and a reasonable discussion, or are you trying to be an asshole?
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
This is /r/drama. All I "expect" is copious amounts of bussy.
I'm not being an asshole. I'm asking questions and commenting on what you've stated.
Enough of the, "I'm a victim of an alleged rape, therefore my story should be treated as law regardless of what transpired legally, and anyone who asks me questions or seems doubtful about aspects of my narrative is a fucking woman-hating monster" shit. Stop it. You are literally accusing another human being of one of the most horrific crimes on the planet. You refused to go to trial to protect your feelings, yet you demand to be treated like someone who'd won a case.
You need to grow the fuck up. You have the thought process of a little girl. Stop surrounding yourself with people who coddle you because you play the rape card. It's doing nothing for you mentally.
n/a Hammer_of_truthiness 2017-06-21
Imagine posting this seriously to r/drama
n/a John_Ketch 2017-06-21
Imagine being a mod in SRD
Keep yourself safe
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
There are many reasons I chose not to press charges; it's not limited to "it'd be hard to testify." Of course it's much easier to assume you know my reasons.
It's not playing the rape card when I'm admitting to an event that happened to me. I don't really care that you don't believe me, or that you think I'm the most selfish person in the world for my decisions. You know about 5% of what happened, and the aftermath, and you're assuming to know 100%.
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
I'm not assuming anything, I'm going off of what you've told me.
You weren't admitting to something that happened to you, you posted a big agenda post to try to associate what happened with you with Bill Cosby, and so that everyone could have a nice THIS IS LIFE IN DRUMPF'S AMERICA!!!1!!! circlejerk.
You're posting a fuckton for someone who doesn't care.
Then you should have included more details. If you post about being a rape victim in a politicized post, and the only details you include make your story sound sketchy as fuck, people who aren't brainwashed dipshits are going to call you on your bullshit.
KYS
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
I have not said anywhere in this post, to you or anyone else, that I refused to press charges because it would be "hard" for me.
You sure seem to think you are owed so many details. But again, if you don't believe me, that's on you. You do you, pal. I hope you never experience the pain of rape.
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
You said you were having nightmares about the trial. Since you haven't given a concrete reason, that's the fairest assumption.
Christ you "RAPE RAPE RAPE" feminists are annoying. You cannot have shit both ways. If you want to agendapost about how you are a sacred untouchable rape victim in order to bash Donald Trump, then you should be able to back your shit up. It's not that I'm "owed" details, it's that I'm not going to buy into your bullshit that easily.
No, it's on you, because if you want to allege something, it's on you to convince others.
I don't think you've ever experienced the pain of rape, so we'll have something in common.
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
I don't care to convince you though, evidenced by the fact that I haven't provided details. We're now going around in circles now. Enjoy your night!
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
IT'S DAY WHERE I AM YOU LYING WHORE
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
Well, it'll be night time eventually.
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
n/a Ardvarkeating101 2017-06-21
What can't you autistpost more often?
Also: autistposting is the new shitposting.
n/a greenhawk22 2017-06-21
My only question is how would you feel if someone could have prevented your rape, but didn't? Don't you feel like not reporting allows him/her to keep doing this, and it would be better to sacrifice a bit of your own time/energy/whatever to stop such a traumatic event from scarring someone else? Or many other people?
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
To answer your first question, the only person I blame for my rape is my rapist. I recognize that he very well may have raped someone before me. I'm not angry, upset, whatever at anyone who didn't report.
n/a kikikay1 2017-06-21
this is pretty sad. maybe if you had gone through with the case you would feel a bit better about things and not be so obsessed with your rape. it would be a pain for a while but you could draw a line under it knowing that you have done the right thing and done everything you can. letting a rapist go free is not doing the right thing & discouraging other people from pursuing justice is even more not the right thing. That, combined with what are obvious attempts to justify a shitty decision, and playing victim card, is why people are jumping on you so hard.
If your reason for not pursuing it was: he is loaded, he will have a great lawyer & the trial will drag out years, and my lawyer advised me that he might countersue me for defamation, and I can't afford that, then I would understand, but say that. And BTW, the underlying problem is not society is accepting of rape but actually, the court system is rigged in rich people's favour & a completely separate issue. Those people mentioned? Cosby. Rich.
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
That's not one of my reasons.
n/a cheeseburgerhandy 2017-06-21
not to mention /u/twelvedayslate\'s random fucking comment about philandro castile, what the fuck does that have to do with you or your bullshit story.. you're exploiting a guy's death for fucking internet points. i agree KYS
n/a oriaxxx 2017-06-21
iirc she didn't 'press charges' because her family is 'locally famous'.
n/a ricksansmorty 2017-06-21
The other 95% is in the other posts and comments you make on reddit.
You have a clear obsession with being raped, complaining about rapes, and insisting on not reporting rapes. Your reddit history is filled with these things both before and after the actual rape.
Friends and relatives advising you not to pursue legal action probably didn't want you to risk going the way of Wanetta Gibson.
n/a randomuser5632 2017-06-21
?
n/a Hammer_of_truthiness 2017-06-21
Imagine posting this seriously to r/drama
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
Oh, I know. I'm being the world's biggest autistic faggot right now. A day ago I was the hero who posted bussy and now I'm human copypasta.
I must die first in the mayocide.
n/a Hammer_of_truthiness 2017-06-21
Well at least your honest with yourself.
Be sure to upvote, thanks
n/a Hammer_of_truthiness 2017-06-21
Imagine posting this seriously to r/drama
n/a nanonan 2017-06-21
Imagine caring this much if people are being serious in /r/drama.
n/a SithisTheDreadFather 2017-06-21
Imagine posting this seriously to r/drama
n/a Zappert 2017-06-21
can this be the new ironic meme?
n/a SithisTheDreadFather 2017-06-21
imagine posting this.........
n/a Lesmothian 2017-06-21
That's not how this works. You don't get to decide who the state prosecutes for crimes against you.
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
I didn't give an official statement to the detective.
If you're bothered by what happened beyond there, I'm happy to give you the phone number for the detective.
(Kidding.)
n/a Lesmothian 2017-06-21
lol no, you do whatever you want. I'm not one of these "you have a duty to stop this lunatic from hurting other women!" types, like anyone who is assaulted has to turn into Batman.
But I do have an interest in legal stuff and the phrase "press charges" tickles my autism, because people then think they can go to the police and say "Hey a crime happened at me but don't even worry about it, you can just throw that report right in the trash if you want".
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
Ahhh, fair enough. Thank you for not being a jerk. :)
n/a HUNTforREDcucktober 2017-06-21
Thank you!! Victims of rape, domestic violence, or any crime don't decide to press charges. It is always up to the police or DA. Also once the charges are pressed, the victim becomes a witness and has no power to "drop charges". You can only decide not to cooperate with the prosecution or police and face criminal charges yourself. Thanls for pointing this out. This also tickles my autism
n/a yourshittytherapist 2017-06-21
I guess it's similar to child abuse cases where a kid might come up and tell someone their story but backpedal on it later maybe because of pressure from the parents of something. CPS wouldn't let that go (hopefully)
n/a Chicup 2017-06-21
Everyone on TrollX was raped it seems.
n/a Hammer_of_truthiness 2017-06-21
Imagine posting this seriously to r/drama
n/a niczar 2017-06-21
Imaging posting this ⬆
n/a WokeAsFuck 2017-06-21
Maybe it'd help if fat feminists stopped making shit up for victim points.
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4611776/Woman-faces-2-years-prison-fake-rape-claims.html#ixzz4kfSfwEp3 Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
How does that work exactly....Thanks for telling me two randos dumped their loads in you against your will. Can we have sex now?
n/a WokeAsFuck 2017-06-21
I've had that happen to me at least once. Twice I suspect.
I have no idea why they do it. I guess to make you feel extra protective. Then when you find out it's bullshit you're suspicious of anyone that tell you similar.
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
Mayhbe I am just selfish, but when some girl tried that on me, I responded: "that makes me so NOT want to have sex with you"
n/a WokeAsFuck 2017-06-21
Haha. I still did.
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
In all seriousness, where I have seen this the most is when girls claim some guy "forced" them to give a BJ and now the thought of it "triggers" them.....they just can say "I don't like giving head."
n/a WokeAsFuck 2017-06-21
Bitches be cray.
n/a Chicup 2017-06-21
You can't wait for her to charge you with rape when you break up.
n/a WokeAsFuck 2017-06-21
I was lucky, apart from the bullshitting she was ok.
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-06-21
/u/complimentaryasshole so open relationships are bad? pls no kink shame. also I guess showing interest in a woman means you don't respect them.
also wtf does ETA stand for?
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
"Edited to add"
Also I don't understand what this little story of office hanky panky has to do with rape. Christ these bitches think every fucking little thing is rape.
n/a aGrly 2017-06-21
hey please stop raping op with your reply thanks
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-06-21
pleas delete this comment. it shows you have no respect for me and honestly is coming off a little rape-y
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
Eat this puddin' pop and then I'm gonna teach that bussy a little lesson
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-06-21
tastes a lil like valium
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
Shhhhhhhhhh there there
n/a DeepDickedHillybilly 2017-06-21
Edited to add
n/a complimentaryasshole 2017-06-21
Open relationships are not bad, but if his relationship was open he would have disclosed it. Considering what I know of him that is also highly unlikely. Anyone in an open relationship is secure enough to be open about it when pursuing a romantic interest.
Showing interest in a woman isn't disrespectful if you respect her rejection and leave her alone. He is not, and had not. She was trying to tell him gently since last week, he finally "got it" on Tuesday. Meanwhile, because he did not listen, it's made her so uncomfortable she has chosen to work at another location whenever possible.
Let me be clear here, my post is not an attack on this man who may be kinky and likes to test the waters. My post is an example of harassment that all, if not most, of your female relatives and friends have experienced in their life. Do you have a daughter? It will happen to her too and I hope to God you wouldn't respond with the same comments. The sooner you can empathize with this in your fellow man, the better off your understanding of them will be.
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-06-21
you jackass. I' and all my male relatives have experienced similar harassment; it's part of the human experience.
you would be better off not ascribing faults to gender. it makes you sound like a sexist. as well, your friend did not originally tell him to stop. how is he supposed to know? telekinesis?
oh I'm sure that had he starrted out with "hey me and my wife are swingers" he definitely wouldn't be sitting with HR right now. you might actually have brain damage.
you never indicated that she had rejected him! I'm almost at the point of believing none of this happened and you made it all up (which would be par for the course for the sub that was posted in)
n/a complimentaryasshole 2017-06-21
I hope whoever damaged you, (growing up perhaps?) gets their just desserts. I hope you get the help you need and the love you need in this world. I hope you can find connection and acceptance, love, community and fulfillment. I hope the best for you, I really do. You are loved in this world, and what happened to you is not your fault.
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-06-21
why are coming back to this 4 days later? smells of an alt
n/a complimentaryasshole 2017-06-21
Hey... it's not your fault. What happened to you is not your fault.
n/a DeepDickedHillybilly 2017-06-21
LOL@ the could of not being downvoted to -61 and the dumb OP raging on it
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
This can't possibly be the first time you've seen an autist sperg out on an something inanimate, right?
n/a DeepDickedHillybilly 2017-06-21
It's the first time I've seen mob rage on a bot taking it down to -61 for sure
n/a Chin_Up_Chick 2017-06-21
They sense the robot takeover. One day, every post on reddit will be a bot.
n/a FrostBittenSalsa 2017-06-21
How do you know whether or not everyone around you is a bot?
n/a Chin_Up_Chick 2017-06-21
Oh. My. God.
n/a FrostBittenSalsa 2017-06-21
Reddit is the machine's way of turning humans into batteries
n/a MrUnsmileyMan 2017-06-21
Let's fuckin hope so, I bet their memes will be better
n/a Chin_Up_Chick 2017-06-21
They already have robots composing music I doubt we're far from robots composing memes
n/a JarlGearth 2017-06-21
Ugh, that creepy and gross bot was mansplaining.
n/a coco-o 2017-06-21
tbf that bot actually sucks though
n/a Bucklar 2017-06-21
Only if you're an illiterate hick.
n/a Gothmog26 2017-06-21
Someone link bot rights
n/a IAintThatGuy 2017-06-21
Done.
n/a ItsSugar 2017-06-21
/r/IdiotsFightingThings
n/a TheJum 2017-06-21
Username checks out.
n/a sup3r_hero 2017-06-21
even could-of-bot isn't left out from the shitshow 😂😂😂
n/a 30blues 2017-06-21
honestly this botshaming is creepy and gross, ugh
n/a IvankaTrumpIsMyWaifu 2017-06-21
That bot got fucking rekt
n/a lifesbrink 2017-06-21
I have 0 sympathy for someone who doesn't report. Rape is terrible, and letting rapists go free emboldens them to do it again.
n/a UmmahSultan 2017-06-21
But think about how empowered you'd feel if you indirectly helped a rapist conceal his crimes for 20+ years.
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
May you never know the pain of being raped and how difficult the decision is.
n/a lifesbrink 2017-06-21
I was molested as a kid. If I had been an adult, I absolutely would have reported. But as a kid, I had no idea go to handle it
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
I'm sorry for what happened to you.
n/a lifesbrink 2017-06-21
A trollx feeling even remotely bad for a filthy male? Forgive me if I don't believe you. The hate in your subreddit is redpill levels on an average day
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
Alrighty, then don't believe me.
n/a ____________13 2017-06-21
If people say this enough, it might come true.
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
I really like how admitting giving an acquaintance drugs before a planned sex, drugs, and soul party has turned into "he admitted raping her."
n/a ____________13 2017-06-21
BUT HE DIDN"T ASK FOR VERBAL PERMISSION TO HAVE SEX AT THE SEX PARTY.
n/a disgruntled_lawyer 2017-06-21
Just because she went to a sex party and walked into the room naked and coked up did NOT mean she wanted to have sex.
n/a belmincour 2017-06-21
He admitted he didn't have permission.
He admitted that she was unresponsive.
He admitted he proceeded despite that.
n/a ____________13 2017-06-21
Sometimes people stop moving while their genitals are being touched. Most of these people would be perplexed if you stopped to ask permission after they shoved your hand down their pants.
I'm not saying I believe him, but all he really admits to is having an imperfect sexual encounter.
n/a belmincour 2017-06-21
Obviously consent doesn't need to be verbal but clearly you need to be reasonably conscious to give consent.
I the same deposition Cosby admitted that he had given her a strong soporific substance (he claims it was Benadryl) to her. He admits that it his usual habit to give women drugs with a similar soporific effect such as quaaludes - which he himself refrains from specifically because it makes him sleepy - prior to having sex with them.
So he admits he gave her something which he well aware would probably render her unconscious or at least make her quite sleepy. He admits that latet on he put his hands on her. He admits she doesn't respond in any way. So admits he proceeds to touch her genitals.
These are his own words.
Nowhere does Cosby say she gave any other sign of consent at all. If she did give some kind of sign, that's rather a major oversight on his part not to mention that, isn't it?
n/a ____________13 2017-06-21
"she then took her hand and put it on top of my hand to push it in further"
Again, I don't really care what some old man I'll never meet actually did, or didn't do, but I don't think his account constitutes the "he admitted it" that everyone seems to claim it does.
n/a IAintThatGuy 2017-06-21
/u/twelvedayslate watch out you don't end up in jail yourself.
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
Well, considering I'm not lying, I'm not worried. Thanks though!
n/a CirqueDuFuder 2017-06-21
What is with all the talk about rape kits not being done? Where is that talk coming from?
n/a Ardvarkeating101 2017-06-21
Well apparently since they didn't prosecute despite you having had a rape kit done, you were willing to testify, you had clothes and all sorts of DNA evidence as mentioned above, it must be a very unbelievable story.
n/a IAintThatGuy 2017-06-21
They all say that. But now we can put them in jail. The time of reckoning is coming.
n/a ZeroSpace83 2017-06-21
I am not sure why so many people with the advice of reporting it after it happens or reporting it in general are getting downvoted. I get the idea that there are rape kits that haven't been processed, but how is the solution not doing anything?
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
Do you want the real answer?
Because most of these types of cases, the types of "rapes" that TrollXers and professional feminist types claim to have experienced, are usually a booze-fueled "he said, she said" mess that wouldn't hold up in trial. It's arguable as to whether or not these situations were even rape in the first place. Victims of actual violent sexual assault aren't typically afraid to go to the police. The reason you'd be afraid to go to the police would be because deep down, underneath all of your politicized rhetoric, you know your rape claim is total BS.
But of course you cannot say that, for it is haram.
n/a Hammer_of_truthiness 2017-06-21
Imagine posting this seriously to r/drama
n/a rsaahhuul0 2017-06-21
Imagine posting to /r/drama
n/a take_a_dumpling 2017-06-21
Imagine posting bussy.
n/a rsaahhuul0 2017-06-21
Why imagine? Post bussy.
n/a ThatDamnedImp 2017-06-21
it'll be true in some cases, a horrible slander in others.
But it will be true in some cases, and that does matter. Too often, feminists approach rape through fear, and are willing to toss out every advancement our society has made because of it. To a feminist, a woman's fears is worth sacrificing any right of man over. That matters.
n/a randomuser5632 2017-06-21
Why do you spam that here?
n/a Kekistanian9000 2017-06-21
absolutely haram
n/a Lashesforashes 2017-06-21
Eh, I was passed out like a light on a couch following a big night on my birthday and went to the police 2 months later, that's not uncommon though. The majority of perpetrators are known to the victim and although its a shitty crime it takes time to process. Granted it was easier as there were witnesses and he admitted to it on a police recording but it doesn't make going through court any less traumatic. The line of questioning from the defense is brutal and most victims understand both this and the extended timeframe for the trial to be completed.
I most definitely agree that for a lot of women there's a wider range of situations considered rape now in comparison to a few years ago. I mean, coercion in a relationship? That I really don't understand. I do tend to believe that drunk consent is different to being passed out though. But maybe I'm a bad victim I guess?
n/a unidannyphantom 2017-06-21
Feminism: where porn causes rape but people not reporting rapists doesn't.
n/a solanas2016 2017-06-21
this but unironically
n/a Diecastcrazy 2017-06-21
And of course these idiots nake it about Trump.
n/a kothmingow 2017-06-21
it's /r/TrollXChromosomes. They'll make the shit they take every morning about Trump somehow.
n/a Unicorn_Abattoir 2017-06-21
Yeah, and nobody cares, right? It's not a big deal? Lots of support from the public?
Or maybe he'll go down in history as a rapist because society doesn't actually condone that kind of thing, which is why it's big news in the first place.
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
Society thinks rape is the worst crime possible. Period. TrollXers act like we live in a culture that's like "FUCK YEAH RAPE RULES," but that's the opposite. Rape is viewed as being worse than murder. Personally, I'd rather be raped than murdered, because at least I'd still be alive, but what I just said is pretty much blasphemy.
Yeah, Cosby's finished. No one will remember him well. Even if he never sees the inside of a jail cell, he'll be remembered as a monster for as long as people still say his name.
n/a Hammer_of_truthiness 2017-06-21
Imagine posting this seriously to r/drama
n/a ThatGaymer 2017-06-21
Imagine posting this like 5+ ties to r/drama
n/a Ankle_Drag 2017-06-21
Imagine there's no heaven. It's easy if you try.
n/a Chin_Up_Chick 2017-06-21
There's a huge circlejerk on the walking dead where the villain negan is some kind of anti hero because he says he doesn't rape women. It makes no sense. He still tortures and murders innocent people. Having a no rape policy doesn't make someone a good person.
If that's the standard now, wtf.
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
Dude, I'd take rape over torture any day. There, I said it. I'm a fucking wimp. That "women have a high pain threshold" shit skipped me.
I feel like the thing with rape is that most of the pain is mental. I'm not fucking denying that rape probably has more emotional trauma than any other fucking crime. I genuinely believe that the women who testify even though it's scary are fucking brave badasses.
But I mean... it's not the violent crime olympics. Murder is bad. Torture is bad. Rape is bad. We don't gotta rank them fam.
n/a Chin_Up_Chick 2017-06-21
Yeah ive personally never been raped so I cant imagine what it's like but I had a creepy dude follow me around at work.. like he'd be waiting outside of the bathroom for me and it got to the point where I had to hide to get away from him at my own job. I was in such denial that it wasnt ok.
When i finally told my boss i cried like a baby haha. And that was such a small thing i cant imagine what testifying for any crime is like.
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
That's fucking fine and that's fucking normal. People are fucked up immediately after an incident.
What's not fucking normal is when you spend the next decade of your life riding the victim train and making people uncomfortable to ever challenge you or contradict you.
n/a Chin_Up_Chick 2017-06-21
Yeah and honestly when something bad happens what you wanna do is move on.. wearing it as a badge of honor is unhealthy and I dont think that most people do that- just that from the outside looking in it seems appealing because of that sweet oppression currency and so there are a lot of people who want to be victims and kinda make stuff up.
Im not saying everyone does, but when people wear it as a badge of honor and have to insert "im mentally ill", "i was a victim of ____", "i have cancer", etc in like literally everything they say when it has nothing to do with their experience you can tell theres something they want.
And i can see why it's easy to encourage that type of culture because nobody wants to straight up accuse someone of going through something tough of lying. And on a platform like reddit nobody knows each other's personal experiences.
I think that's why it's really important people dont make shit up no matter how appealing it may seem. If you really feel like your life would be better or you could easily make excuses for your actions by pretending to be a victim of unfortunate circumstances but in the end it won't make things better and you may just feel worse. In those circumstances you may need psychiatric help to evaluate why you need to manipulate people to feel better.
n/a DodgeIvan 2017-06-21
This, like do you think victims of bad things back in the 1600s were like "I CAN NEVER LOOK AT A MAN THE SAME AGAIN" I have a feeling they were scarred but like all things that are scarring, you heal and move on.
n/a John_Ketch 2017-06-21
Hmmmmmm
He probably wanted to see the bussy
n/a Chin_Up_Chick 2017-06-21
Why are you following me is it because im such a ketch
n/a John_Ketch 2017-06-21
I'm just in the thread bby
n/a Chin_Up_Chick 2017-06-21
Thats a lie
n/a John_Ketch 2017-06-21
And you know it
n/a Chin_Up_Chick 2017-06-21
The incel within me is very happy
n/a PunkosaurusRex 2017-06-21
It hurts really fucking bad phyisically too
n/a fuckitrightboy 2017-06-21
but you did rank them by saying you'd rather be raped than murdered
n/a Ihurtinside 2017-06-21
Hey, I've never raped anyone! My character and integrity must be through the roof!
n/a Chin_Up_Chick 2017-06-21
Yep you're golden
n/a evannever 2017-06-21
That show went to shit.
n/a PerturbedPetard 2017-06-21
He does rape though. Didn't Negan burn a guys face when he wouldn't let Negan take his wife? The threat is still there like if I broke into a couple's house and threatened to kill the husband if the wife doesn't have sex with me. It's still rape even if I make the wife say she consents.
n/a Prince_Mushi 2017-06-21
He doesn't force his wives into making a deal, the wives choose to live a luxurious life with Negan because it's easy. He burnt that guys face because they were having relations after the deal had been made.
n/a PerturbedPetard 2017-06-21
It's pretty obvious the wife of the guy with the burnt face didn't have 100% freedom to make her choice especially when they talk to each in secret afraid that Negan might see them. She's clearly very uncomfortable when her husband and Negan are in the same room.
n/a Prince_Mushi 2017-06-21
Well she does and she doesn't, in the comics she just marries him to make her life easier, instead of having to work for points in Negan's system. I think in the show she and her husband get caught stealing and she marries him to avoid the punishment or something.
n/a kothmingow 2017-06-21
u/Shohdef, literally no one in the U.S. but in-the-closet sucking off 14-year old boys Texan fundies think this way. This isn't Saudi Arabia or Egypt.
Also whats with all the fake stories about police interactions where victims are accused of lying? Do none of these bitches have a spine? There's nothing more infuriating in the world than being told you lied about something when you didn't, so why don't they tell these "police investigators" to go stick a cactus up their anus and give themselves a prolapse?
n/a VaginalAutism 2017-06-21
That's not what's happening.
The investigator is, shocker, investigating.
In ANY criminal investigation, the cop is going to see if they can poke holes in a victim's testimony. They wanna see the reaction to determine if they have a case.
For example, if you have a date rape case, the investigator might say, "come on, he bought you those flowers. Surely you were ready to sleep with him." They want to see if the victim is going to react with horror or say, "I mean, sort of, yeah."
Essentially, the detectives on these cases ask questions like these, then feminazis report it later as "HE ACCUSED ME OF LYING!" He didn't. He was just doing a thorough investigation before arresting someone for the most heinous crime on the planet.
n/a Hammer_of_truthiness 2017-06-21
Imagine posting this seriously to r/drama
n/a TheOrgasmFairy 2017-06-21
Imagine having such a sore asshole over a random agendapost that you're compelled to post this garbage over and over again as if anyone gives a fuck.
n/a Hammer_of_truthiness 2017-06-21
imagine being this butthurt over shitposts
n/a TheOrgasmFairy 2017-06-21
Imagine being so retarded that you can't think of a better insult that "no u!11!".
n/a Hammer_of_truthiness 2017-06-21
Imagine being so autistic you get worked up over trollx being retarded
n/a TheOrgasmFairy 2017-06-21
Imagine being so autistic that you get worked up over drama gossiping about trollx being retarded...
n/a Hammer_of_truthiness 2017-06-21
Imagine being so autistic that you dont know what ctrl+v is
n/a TheOrgasmFairy 2017-06-21
Imagine having such little self awareness that you unironically don't understand that this applies to the last three comments you've made.
n/a Hammer_of_truthiness 2017-06-21
Imagine being so retarded you write longer responses than me
n/a TheOrgasmFairy 2017-06-21
and yet
pick one.
n/a Hammer_of_truthiness 2017-06-21
imagine not knowing how to meme arrow
n/a TheOrgasmFairy 2017-06-21
Imagine having such an aching butthole that you can't give up an argument on drama.
n/a Hammer_of_truthiness 2017-06-21
Imagine it takes 1 2 no 1
n/a TheOrgasmFairy 2017-06-21
You must be a bona fide expert on lolcows then i'd wager.
n/a Hammer_of_truthiness 2017-06-21
Imagine being an expert on cows after years of fuckin ur nan
n/a TheOrgasmFairy 2017-06-21
I'd imagine fucking my cow of a nan would be a step up from you fucking your dog of a mum.
n/a kothmingow 2017-06-21
I meant more about the interaction as a whole, not the fact that the police was investigating holes in the story. They act like police hate victims and want to abuse them as some sort of power trip, like they don't realize the defense will bring up the same things anyways during the actual trial, so they might as well get every angle straight immediately. I just feel like they over-exaggerate how much of an asshole the investigators are, just for pity points on the internet.
n/a nanonan 2017-06-21
The police are literally the physichal manifestation of patriarchy. All that power and authority and masculinity concentrated in one place. A reminder of every bully that called them a whiny faggot. It's no wonder they are terrified of interaction.
n/a Hammer_of_truthiness 2017-06-21
Imagine posting this seriously to r/drama
n/a kothmingow 2017-06-21
Imagine killing yourself. Sounds like a good time, right?
n/a Hammer_of_truthiness 2017-06-21
Eat my bussy
n/a Shohdef 2017-06-21
Ahhhhh yes. I'm definitely sure that you tooooooootally know how it can be to be a woman in the US. News flash: this isn't some bullshit fake universe where all the assholes that hate women are trapped in a single part of the US. I live in Ohio and there's more than enough of them here, too.
Just the overall manner of your post writes like you're a Trump supporter though, so you're not really worth my time.
n/a kothmingow 2017-06-21
Lol, I'm not a woman, but if you'll let me jerk myself off for a sec, I've got a pretty good bullshit detector. When women stop exaggerating how persecuted they are in America, I'll stop calling it out. And considering my first post, it's the pretty ironic you call me a trump supporter when I begrudgingly voted Clinton. I've also never fantasized about sucking off my wife's boyfriend, so I'm definitely not a trumptard.
n/a Shohdef 2017-06-21
Yep. There we go. That's all you needed to say to show no merit to this argument.
n/a Chicup 2017-06-21
/u/twelvedayslate
This is one of the stupidest things I've read in a long time.
n/a ason 2017-06-21
I don't know what's worse, justice or (((MALES))).
n/a Trepur349 2017-06-21
Feminists claim to hate rapists, but then actively discourage investigations that could lead them to being convicted.
I don't get the logic.
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
Just because I didn't file a report doesn't mean I discourage investigations.
n/a Trepur349 2017-06-21
How can they investigate a crime that wasn't reported?
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
I meant I don't discourage investigations for other people who have been raped.
n/a Ardvarkeating101 2017-06-21
So you encourage it for others but not when it actually happens to you?
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
"Don't discourage" =/= encourage.
I encourage everyone to do what's best for their situation; this is with the understanding that unless I'm in their shoes, I don't have all the facts and it's not my place to judge.
n/a Ardvarkeating101 2017-06-21
Yes but you could apply that to any position.
I don't discourage bob from kicking that pregnant lady in the stomach because I don't have all the facts and it's not my place to judge.
For all I know that baby could be the next Hitler and Bob is the only one who knows.
n/a Trepur349 2017-06-21
But this is part of the problem. We need to be sympathetic to victims, but we also need to encourage them to report.
Telling them to take their time, or that they don't have to report decreases the likelihood that they will report and greatly decreases the likelihood the perp will see the back of a jail.
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
I definitely encourage victims to get a rape kit done. Once the physical evidence is gone, it's gone. Get the rape kit and then decide if you want to press charges.
n/a Trepur349 2017-06-21
Ok fair enough. And I agree that's important. It's better to get a rape kit done and not press charges then to do nothing at all. But it's only part of the physical evidence (there may be more evidence at the scene of the crime, that also once is gone is gone). Can't preserve a crime scene if the crime isn't reported quickly.
I'm not sure what the law is, as in whether or not it's possible to let the Police investigate the crime scene etc. but then not file charges etc. and if it's not possible, I'd support changing the law for that in the instance of sex crimes.
However, I'm also talking about the feminists (which doesn't include you) who talk about how rape kits violate a women that's just been violated and it isn't fair to pressure her to get a rape kit done.
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
Well, I mean, when I left my rapist's house, I wasn't in a good frame of mind. I wasn't about to call the cops to his house. I was on a one track mission to the hospital.
I don't think it's fair to pressure a rape victim to get a kit. Encourage, sure. Pressure, no. Getting a rape kit done is incredibly difficult.
n/a Trepur349 2017-06-21
which is why we need to encourage/pressure them more. That's good at least, that you went to the hospital quickly
n/a twelvedayslate 2017-06-21
I don't believe in pressuring a rape victim into ANYTHING, so yep, lump me into those feminists you hate.
I made a choice to get a rape kit.
n/a Trepur349 2017-06-21
I'm not forcing them, but the more kits done the better
n/a ShinJoe 2017-06-21
10 out of 12 voted to convict. Guess who didn't vote to convict. But you won't get these cunts to confront that. They're "allies".
n/a Pyrepenol 2017-06-21
i get where she's coming from. when my landlord (his name is Big Black) comes by for the rent money and i dont have it, he beats my ass and sometimes pounds it too.
sometimes i cry and cry for days afterwards but i know that if i report it the cops will just laugh and spit in my face and probably send me to prison where i will just get raped again.
how on earth can i ever make it stop. please help
n/a TheFutureIsNotMale 2017-06-21
LOL, rape is totally funny! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! /s
Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh. How come y'all MRAs always like to say we don't live in a rape culture while simultaneously, uh, like, DUH, PROVING WE LIVE IN A FUCKING RAPE CULTURE.
Thiiiiiiiiis is rape culture. All around you, right now, right here.
n/a Dembara 2017-06-21
How is saying it's ridiculous to call someone suggesting people "should probably report it to the police" if they're raped a "misogynist scum" making light of rape?
n/a TheFutureIsNotMale 2017-06-21
Wow.
n/a TheFutureIsNotMale 2017-06-21
If you have to ask why something is misogynist, then guess what, you're probably a misogynist.
n/a TheFutureIsNotMale 2017-06-21
Every. Survivor's. Journey. Is. Different.
See? I think I've dropped the mic now.
n/a Dembara 2017-06-21
Who said otherwise? I wouldn't disagree with that. That doesn't address what I said. Note the "should probably" not the "definitely must"
n/a TheFutureIsNotMale 2017-06-21
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Sit down.
I believe I said "mic drop." :-D
n/a TheFutureIsNotMale 2017-06-21
Sorry if your man powers aren't working like they used to. Sucks when survivors stand up for themselves, doesn't it? XD
n/a Dembara 2017-06-21
You are not standing up for yourself. I did not attack you. I disagreed with you. I respect you as a survivor and fully understand how difficult that can be. I still disagree.
n/a Dembara 2017-06-21
Not everyone has to do what you say. People are their own, you can ask, but we have the choice to say, "no".
n/a Dembara 2017-06-21
I didn't ask why it was misogynistic... It factually isn't. It doesn't even mention women.
n/a TheFutureIsNotMale 2017-06-21
Oh really, dude. That's a "fact?"
Siiiiiiiiiiiigh
n/a TheFutureIsNotMale 2017-06-21
Enjoy your downvote. :-) Like I said, mic drop.
n/a Dembara 2017-06-21
Yes. It's a fact. Something that neither mentions nor addresses women cannot be hatred towards women. That is true by definition.
n/a trj820 2017-06-21
I don't even care any more that your account is a 6hr old Poe. You responded to your own comment, and now deserve to be physically removed. Mods! Mayocide this degenerate!
n/a I_smell_like_bacon 2017-06-21
http://i.imgur.com/hEcBQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zoT3GnY.gif
http://i.imgur.com/EmhMiKX.gif
n/a ThatDamnedImp 2017-06-21
LOL, even I think you're trying too hard.
n/a misfitx 2017-06-21
No, this post is why victims fear coming forward. Trash like you people.
n/a ProphetRith 2017-06-21
That sub is starting to negatively effect my views on women, it comforts me to know mostly thirsty guys post there tho
n/a ThatDamnedImp 2017-06-21
No, it's cunty women, too. Lots of them on reddit.
What you should take solace in is, the kind of women on reddit are every bit as disgusting, gross and worthless as the average man on reddit.
n/a some-other 2017-06-21
For them to be representative of women as a whole would be astronomically unlikely.
n/a anothergodamnaccount 2017-06-21
So proof as a means of pressing charges against someone is a theory? Huh, you really do learn something new everyday.
n/a SRSLovesGawker 2017-06-21
Jesus, these people are dumb as sticks with the 'untested rape kit' stuff.
Yes, there are thousands of untested rape kits. Know why they're untested? Because most don't need to be. Most rape allegations are countered by a claim that sex happened, but was consensual. The kit is kept around on the off chance that something happens during trial which would require the demonstration (or lack thereof) of physical evidence, and then destroyed after x years.
It's just another one of those 100% purely emotional talking points that doesn't stand up to the slightest bit of scrutiny, but any attempt at scrutinizing is considered 'hateful' and 'oppressive'.
n/a wolfdreams01 2017-06-21
"Here is the process for fixing your problem."
"We don't want to use the process."
A few years later
"Why is the problem STILL not fixed?!?"
n/a lvl99SkrubRekker 2017-06-21
/u/Kordiana
The system cant effectively prosecute someone based on "I think I wad raped, not sure, kinda a gut feeling." That isnt a problem with the system, that is a problem with ypur testimony and the fact that the system have to allow for fair proceedings.
Refer to above. What do you expect them to do? Believe you 100% throw the guy in a dark cell, and never talk about it again?
You are a dip shit.
n/a lvl99SkrubRekker 2017-06-21
/u/scoobysnaxxx apparently lives in a universe where everyone is part of a Lifetime drama. Lol
/allthishappened