anybody who makes fun of "tankies" isn't on your side.
/u/akornfan I don't have anything joking to say, I just wanna make sure that you have the chance to look at what you've written and think about how you let your life get to this point.
Why would you even want to live under Stalinism? It was shit for the vast majority of people. Socialism is about building a better world not murdering everyone you have Internet beef with.
Capitalism fucked Russia so hard in the 1990s, and took so much off their life expectancy, that they figured having a strong leader who can fight off foreign invaders was better than nothing. But it didn't have to be that way. Blame the incompetent neoliberals.
ironing that clinton is whaling about "muh russia hacking the elections" when her husband helped make sure that Boris went from 8% - 56% in the polls. Neoliberals are shit, agreed
Latvia, and Poland went far further than Russia with pro market reforms and integration with the global market, as a result, they've seen far better outcomes. Economist Jeffery Sachs has written pretty substantially about this, I'm sure you know him, and are aware of "shock therapy". It is disingenuous and empirically wrong to equate everything that has happened and gone wrong in Russia to capitalism.
Anyone who can look at Assad, look at the Rojavan Kurds, and say Assad is the true revolutionary socialist while the Kurds are imperialist American lapdogs is utterly fucked.
There are no good options, so "best" doesn't apply. I'm open to the argument, but I wouldn't call it a good one. It's "least bad" we need to talk about.
Middle Eastern countries are filled with way more people willing to exploit the first sign of weakness, mostly Islamists like the Muslim brotherhood. Democracy is earned not given.
I'll be quite honest, Stalin built up a massive superpower from a poor backward country, and he industrialized Russia. Aside from the gulags he's quite a hero in my book.
I've been accused of being one of PK's alts, and now i'm accused of being Draco. I'm not him. In fact, i've been targeted by one of his alts /u/darkaceAUS, aka r/neoliberal's village idiot.
Wealth refers to the stock of assets held by a person or household at a single point in time. These assets may include financial holdings and savings, but commonly also include the family home. Income refers to money received by a person or household over some period of time.
BTW Denmark still doesn't have the highest level of wealth inequality.
Chile, Mexico, Turkey, the United States, Israel, Japan, Greece, Spain, Portugal, United Kingdom and some parts of Africa are the worst countries for both Income and Wealth inequality.
Why don't you try gay sex for once?
It might calm you down.
I like my men beefy and large.
BTW Denmark still doesn't have the highest level of wealth inequality. Chile, Mexico, Turkey, the United States, Israel, Japan, Greece, Spain, Portugal, United Kingdom and some parts of Africa are the worst countries for ... Wealth inequality.
This is false. Why do you keep repeating this when I have repeatedly disproven it?
lol
You neoliberals are so delusional.
You won't let facts get in the way of your "Hillary 2020" delusions.
All you have proven is that you are an ideologue that refuses to acknowledge true income inequality, especially in the USA.
Why don't you waste someone else's time?
Stalin built up a massive superpower from a poor backward country, and he industrialized Russia. Aside from the gulags he's quite a hero in my book.
Didn't he also fuck his country out of 20+ million killed by the nazis by shitting up his army through killing half of his command and ignoring warnings that the germans were going to invade because hitler was is bro. Then also killing millions of people through famine.
He only won the war because he stopped trying to micro manage it after he ran away to his country house to piss his pants when the Germans were a few miles away from Moscow. After that he let actually competent people run the war without killing them, let the British and Americans give them tons of trucks etc, and somehow took credit for it afterwards.
Then he consolidated his power in eastern europe and died leaving the country in a massive mess, a bureaucratic nightmare with the same rate of imprisonment as the US now and massive inertia to crushing any signs of democracy, workers control or a shift away from massive militarisation and consumption as a percentage of GDP at tiny levels that resisted any attempts at trying to diversify the economy after it had industrialised.
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n/a SnapshillBot 2017-07-06
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n/a TrailerParkBride 2017-07-06
/u/akornfan I don't have anything joking to say, I just wanna make sure that you have the chance to look at what you've written and think about how you let your life get to this point.
n/a akornfan 2017-07-06
thanks, bud. I looked it over and it's insanely, brutally correct
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-07-06
Why would you even want to live under Stalinism? It was shit for the vast majority of people. Socialism is about building a better world not murdering everyone you have Internet beef with.
n/a EchoScorpion 2017-07-06
Because he's 17?
n/a imaginarycreatures 2017-07-06
If he's 17 and a Korn fan, then his misconceptions about Stalinist rule aren't even the worst of his problems.
n/a guyjin 2017-07-06
because he thinks he'll be running the gulag, not be in it.
n/a TrailerParkBride 2017-07-06
Korn fans are gonna be the first ones to face the wall
n/a purplepilled3 2017-07-06
Does he not know how many heads of the NKVD were shot?
Everyone pictures themselves as the man of steel but even Stalin died of a stroke while everyone watched him slowly die and was potentially poisoned.
n/a MyCatsRUtterBastards 2017-07-06
Funny thing is that they didnt watch him,they literally stayed out of the room and let him rot for like 3 days...
n/a DrinkProfessionally 2017-07-06
Edgy is the most over-used word in the story of the internet
n/a Elite_AI 2017-07-06
edgy
n/a BizarrelyRussophilic 2017-07-06
Ask old Russians, they actually liked it but that was only because they were indoctrinated and the people who disagreed with stalin are ded
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-07-06
Capitalism fucked Russia so hard in the 1990s, and took so much off their life expectancy, that they figured having a strong leader who can fight off foreign invaders was better than nothing. But it didn't have to be that way. Blame the incompetent neoliberals.
n/a BizarrelyRussophilic 2017-07-06
ironing that clinton is whaling about "muh russia hacking the elections" when her husband helped make sure that Boris went from 8% - 56% in the polls. Neoliberals are shit, agreed
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-07-06
https://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19960715,00.html
n/a Elite_AI 2017-07-06
Yeah but it only got that foothold because le State Capitalism had been ramming its thick cock all up its butthole.
n/a Papa_Marxs 2017-07-06
Latvia, and Poland went far further than Russia with pro market reforms and integration with the global market, as a result, they've seen far better outcomes. Economist Jeffery Sachs has written pretty substantially about this, I'm sure you know him, and are aware of "shock therapy". It is disingenuous and empirically wrong to equate everything that has happened and gone wrong in Russia to capitalism.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-07-06
http://www.csb.gov.lv/en/notikumi/latvia-population-keeps-declining-riga-population-increases-45900.html
Latvia is literally dying out as a country. Don't know why that would be considered a good outcome.
Jeff Sachs was literally the mastermind behind the collapse of Russian living standards. Why on Earth would you point to his writings?
n/a Papa_Marxs 2017-07-06
Good, I'm glad your responses are still sharp, keep it up against the neolib propaganda.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-07-06
go on cum town Draco
n/a Papa_Marxs 2017-07-06
Who is Draco? Some neolib?
n/a Deity_Of_Darkness 2017-07-06
He's the top mod of r/neoliberal. Think of him as the edgy, alt centre /u/nowaydaddioh.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-07-06
I'm pretty sure Papa Marxs is Draco, who deleted their account
n/a Elite_AI 2017-07-06
Yeah and old Germans liked Hitler.
n/a Kysbu 2017-07-06
http://m.imgur.com/PHnQgHI
n/a EchoScorpion 2017-07-06
n/a riemann1413 2017-07-06
pls tell me more about how the lion assad is the best choice for the syrian peoples
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-07-06
Anyone who can look at Assad, look at the Rojavan Kurds, and say Assad is the true revolutionary socialist while the Kurds are imperialist American lapdogs is utterly fucked.
n/a TrailerParkBride 2017-07-06
They clearly had it coming, like the Armenians.
n/a Elite_AI 2017-07-06
Armenians, Americans...the connection's obvious, isn't it?
n/a HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-07-06
He is the best choice for stability
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-07-06
He made the initial conflict hugely worse by committing war crimes against his own people. Barrel bombs are not agents of stability.
n/a HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-07-06
Still the best choice for stability in Syria. The rebel factions don't have serious international support.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-07-06
There are no good options, so "best" doesn't apply. I'm open to the argument, but I wouldn't call it a good one. It's "least bad" we need to talk about.
n/a HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-07-06
Assad is the best and greatest option for Syria right now.
n/a purplepilled3 2017-07-06
Middle Eastern countries are filled with way more people willing to exploit the first sign of weakness, mostly Islamists like the Muslim brotherhood. Democracy is earned not given.
n/a riemann1413 2017-07-06
lmao imagine being as dumb as you are but thinking you're as smart as you think you are
life must be rough
n/a purplepilled3 2017-07-06
Take that pepper and stuff it where the sun don't shine.
n/a MegaSeedsInYourBum 2017-07-06
The people are hungry and he's providing mustard gas. The poors can eat that right?
n/a riemann1413 2017-07-06
so long as it's not that frou frou dijonnaise mustard gas
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-07-06
That's the kind Obama wanted in his sandwich.
n/a ahbslldud 2017-07-06
It's a food product, essentially.
n/a BizarrelyRussophilic 2017-07-06
n/a TrailerParkBride 2017-07-06
Truly the Raymond Carver of our generation
n/a purplepilled3 2017-07-06
Tankies comes from the Soviets crushing the Hungarian revolt with tanks, why would you ever support the Soviet imperialists over the actual masses?
n/a autistitron 2017-07-06
Check out this ableism /u/akornfan is dishing out.
n/a TrailerParkBride 2017-07-06
/u/akornfan is too much of a retard to treat non-neurotypical people appropriately
n/a DrinkProfessionally 2017-07-06
far left politics are so retarded is not even funny
by the other hand my own smug centrists are being retarded as fuck too
god people who care about politics are the most insufferable human beings to have walked on the earth
n/a Elite_AI 2017-07-06
You have taken another step towards enlightenment.
n/a DrinkProfessionally 2017-07-06
whats the next?
n/a Elite_AI 2017-07-06
You have taken another step away from enlightenment.
n/a DrinkProfessionally 2017-07-06
god fucking dammit this shit is hard
let me guess, enlightenment is moral nihilism?
n/a Elite_AI 2017-07-06
You have shuffled a bit towards enlightenment, I guess. It's not very impressive...
n/a BabyZiggles 2017-07-06
my guess is nihilism nihilism is at least pretty high up there. Then unironic enjoyment of things is next.
n/a Kysbu 2017-07-06
So no hope for any of us
n/a Wraith_GraveSpell 2017-07-06
nihilistic solipsism. Politics aren't real and it doesn't matter. You're in a coma, wake up!
n/a purplepilled3 2017-07-06
Sort yourself out.
n/a Elite_AI 2017-07-06
Kill yourself.
n/a aqouta 2017-07-06
Only if he promises to stop getting caught in the underworld, it's getting ridiculous.
n/a DonaldBlythe 2017-07-06
Honestly 90+% of the people I've met who were adament in their fringe political views have been very dweeby, unsociable people.
n/a antiliberalismpatrol 2017-07-06
rubs hand together right-wingishly
n/a BizarrelyRussophilic 2017-07-06
when the russian propaganda hits just right
n/a glmox 2017-07-06
i wish more tankies would just come out and identify themselves like this so i dont have to waste any time trying to take their opinions seriously
n/a ragnathorn 2017-07-06
There's no better way to say "nothing I think matters"
n/a Kysbu 2017-07-06
Sure there is:
"I seriouspost on r/drama"
n/a Papa_Marxs 2017-07-06
I'll be quite honest, Stalin built up a massive superpower from a poor backward country, and he industrialized Russia. Aside from the gulags he's quite a hero in my book.
n/a Choozadoodle 2017-07-06
He also has the high score
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-07-06
Draco is this your shitposting alt?
n/a Papa_Marxs 2017-07-06
;) take a guess.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-07-06
"; ) take a guess" was your pre-ninja edited response, so I'm going to go ahead and say you suck at this
n/a Deity_Of_Darkness 2017-07-06
Isn't Draco the radical alt centre version of /u/nowaydaddioh?
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-07-06
Just like noway is the white person who hates other whites, Draco is the Indian who hates other Indians
n/a russian_grey_wolf 2017-07-06
Hi, Draco!
n/a Deity_Of_Darkness 2017-07-06
I've been accused of being one of PK's alts, and now i'm accused of being Draco. I'm not him. In fact, i've been targeted by one of his alts /u/darkaceAUS, aka r/neoliberal's village idiot.
n/a russian_grey_wolf 2017-07-06
I meant to comment to u/Papa_Marxs. Sorry.
n/a Deity_Of_Darkness 2017-07-06
It's fine.
n/a darkaceAUS 2017-07-06
What's the difference between wealth and income?
n/a Deity_Of_Darkness 2017-07-06
Wealth refers to the stock of assets held by a person or household at a single point in time. These assets may include financial holdings and savings, but commonly also include the family home. Income refers to money received by a person or household over some period of time.
BTW Denmark still doesn't have the highest level of wealth inequality. Chile, Mexico, Turkey, the United States, Israel, Japan, Greece, Spain, Portugal, United Kingdom and some parts of Africa are the worst countries for both Income and Wealth inequality.
Why don't you try gay sex for once? It might calm you down. I like my men beefy and large.
n/a darkaceAUS 2017-07-06
This is false. Why do you keep repeating this when I have repeatedly disproven it?
n/a Deity_Of_Darkness 2017-07-06
lol You neoliberals are so delusional. You won't let facts get in the way of your "Hillary 2020" delusions. All you have proven is that you are an ideologue that refuses to acknowledge true income inequality, especially in the USA. Why don't you waste someone else's time?
n/a darkaceAUS 2017-07-06
What does this have to do with wealth inequality?
n/a Wraith_GraveSpell 2017-07-06
Why are you talking to yourself, everyone knows that every single alt belongs to Prince.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-07-06
yes, that's true. Speaking of which:
https://archive.fo/0Iq3M
Nowaydaddioh is copying some of my reddit comments and then ranting about murdering Republicans now. I wish I had better "alts".
n/a BrotherToaster 2017-07-06
niceme.me
Russia was well on its way to industrialisation even before the revolution hit
n/a lurker093287h 2017-07-06
Didn't he also fuck his country out of 20+ million killed by the nazis by shitting up his army through killing half of his command and ignoring warnings that the germans were going to invade because hitler was is bro. Then also killing millions of people through famine.
He only won the war because he stopped trying to micro manage it after he ran away to his country house to piss his pants when the Germans were a few miles away from Moscow. After that he let actually competent people run the war without killing them, let the British and Americans give them tons of trucks etc, and somehow took credit for it afterwards.
Then he consolidated his power in eastern europe and died leaving the country in a massive mess, a bureaucratic nightmare with the same rate of imprisonment as the US now and massive inertia to crushing any signs of democracy, workers control or a shift away from massive militarisation and consumption as a percentage of GDP at tiny levels that resisted any attempts at trying to diversify the economy after it had industrialised.
n/a goofylimp 2017-07-06
If neoliberal gets banned, are you going to keep moving to other political subs? If so, could you do /r/conservative next?
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-07-06
Not really anything I can add there, everyone already hates them. I find niches.
n/a Wraith_GraveSpell 2017-07-06
is /r/nazbol niche enough?
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-07-06
Too niche, they don't matter IRL.
n/a holditsteady 2017-07-06
It's great how they think that the NYT is somehow upset because they printed this article on the term liberal written by a leftist.
The libs get owned once again!
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-07-06
yeah the author is an editor for n+1, it wasn't a particularly liberal piece
n/a lurker093287h 2017-07-06
Why are stalinists called 'tankies'?
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-07-06
Because Western Stalin apologists at one point supported the USSR sending in tanks into Hungary to crush the uprising.
n/a lurker093287h 2017-07-06
ohhhhhhh, Thanks!!
n/a Kysbu 2017-07-06
/u/akornfan, your posts already told us that
n/a HuckleberryFN2187 2017-07-06
Hi senpai! I just wanted to say I like your /r/shitneoliberalismsays coal miner flair, but unironically so.