Seriously, this just raises so many alarm flags. No matter how you look at this, you can't get passed the simple fact that someone with millions of children watching him is trying to make fascism cool to them.
They're going to need a shipment of fainting couches over there stat.
What if I look at it as a bunch of hysterical progressives unable to comprehend that not everyone agrees with them and their ideas aren't as unassailable as television told them, and in return sensible, logical, large cocked True Americans keep trolling them, /u/OneJobToRuleThemAll?
No matter how you look at this, you can't get passed the simple fact that someone with millions of children watching him is trying to make fascism cool to them.
That's weird, because that's not how I look at this at all. It's a YouTube celebrity trying to be an edgelord, it's not exactly rare. Who cares?
The worst thing in my opinion that people like this don't get is that pewdiepies fanbase grew with him. I guess theres still kids watching but the people that watched him 6 years ago and still do they are gasp 6 years older now and pewdiepie gasp also got 6 years older and realizes that he would like to do other content.
There might still be alot of kids watching but judging from the comment sections on his videos, the comments that aren't adds, are normally people that are 18+ years old and understand that he's not serious.
Its really bothering me, since this should be such a simple thought process. But this is the internet so I guess Im just asking for too much..
My guess is that PewDiePie was linked to ghazi and similar subs and because he has too much "fuck money" to have something better to do or work, now he's just triggering them on purpose.
same thing with illuminati imagery in music videos. It gets spergs to sperg out which gets attention for your product and is funny to watch. you're basically watching the next generation of conspiracy theorists stake their claims. it's glorious
It turns out if you draw a cartoon frog in your video people will post it all over the internet to screech about how you're Hitler and give you more views.
I mean when you're already accused publicly of having alt-right sympathies, probably not a good idea to plant kekistan flags and pepe's in your vids if you want to disassociate yourself from all that shit - but maybe I'm missing some crucial context somewhere.
Do you live in a fantasy bizarro world where Pepe isn't ubiquitous in practically every alt right circle, especially /pol/? Why do you think this cunt has it pinned to his jacket? Just a crazy coincidence?
Its people taking a symbol that does not belong to their community and using it for something it was not intended to cough swastika cough. Now Im not saying the swastika is not a symbol of hate, simply that pepe is like a small scale version of what happened with the swastika and thus should not be taken as seriously as a swastika.
Ah yes, the great white supremacy symbols of the kekistan flag and pepe, obviously not shitposters trying to be as edgy as humanly possible by pissing off millions of people with a cartoon frog.
It's amazing how bereft of a sense of humor these people are. I mean I think all that Kekistan crap is pretty cringe, but re freak out from these delicate flowers over Nazi LARPers is hilarious.
Oh for the love of god.
How fucking out of touch do you have to be to not realize that the first "proof" with the flag is satirising the whole Kekistan shtick?
It even literally says on the top right "very edgy".
We have furries, we want the mayocide, what else do you need?!
Five paragraphs about intersectional oppression in Mario Kart, with /u/Caelrie coming in at the end to whine about how people shouldn't focus on Bowser when Peach is clearly the true victim, as all women are.
I was, I've been there a long time, since just about the inception of the sub itself.
I have the story of what happened ready and written up, I was going to post here in reply but I wasn't sure if you wanted to read it all, let me know and I'll post it.
I made my edit after looking at the guys profile and seeing what he actually posted, he was calling me names, cursing and basically calling me an alt-right troll. I wish I had screenshotted it at the time.
I was banned for 3 days (which I served) the message was:
This is a temp ban for ignoring mod instructions. You were told to quit it and you had to engage anyway.
Did the warning about being civil come across to you like I had to disengage the conversation altogether? It sure didn't to me.
So fine whatever, it was bullshit but it's not a huge loss. Fast forward to the day I am unbanned, that thread is front and center on the sub, so I try my fucking damndest to be as polite and sincere in my disagreement as I can, I won't engage in anyone who is flaming or trying to troll and I will just report it.
I was legit curious as to why using memes and knowing PDP and his style, he's joking about 90% if not more of the stuff in his videos. I get it, shitty humor and all whatever, but to think that he is literally alt-right in his personal beliefs? Really? I wasn't buying it.
I head out to the gym (got to make those gains, I'm heading into the police academy, something Ghazi also did not approve of but that's another story) and by the time I come back, I see I have some decent replies, however right at the top of my inbox posts, I see I have been banned again and this time it's not temp and there is no message as to why.
When I asked very simply why I was banned?
At this point, it's not okay to be defending the use of fascist propaganda as "just memes"
And
Especially right after he endorsed one of the most hateful men on the internet: Stefan Molyneux.
The latter of which I'm no fan of but I was unaware of it, nor does that make me believe that PDP is alt-right.
So I apologized and yadayada, they discussed it and changed it to a 2 day ban instead.
Now here is my problem with this, I was told that (and I've known this) they will ban you straight up if they think you're "concern trolling" which means they think you're a troll or a right winger just there to debate for the sake of it, you also can't use words like "civil discourse" because that's a red flag. So fuck me right?
Upon discovering that I'm not any of that, they still chose to keep me banned, insinuating that I still did something wrong by way of simply disagreeing with the circlejerk. That's what pisses me off.
I made my edit after looking at the guys profile and seeing what he actually posted, he was calling me names, cursing and basically calling me an alt-right troll. I wish I had screenshotted it at the time.
Did some diggin, look like this comment:
Oh, ok, so he's just a misunderstood nazi.
My mistake!
and this comment:
Lol go fuck yourself. You're the one who decided to ignore everything between the Fiver thing and now as any evidence of being a shithead courting the alt-right.
Now here is my problem with this, I was told that (and I've known this) they will ban you straight up if they think you're "concern trolling" which means they think you're a troll or a right winger just there to debate for the sake of it, you also can't use words like "civil discourse" because that's a red flag. So fuck me right?
Upon discovering that I'm not any of that, they still chose to keep me banned, insinuating that I still did something wrong by way of simply disagreeing with the circlejerk. That's what pisses me off.
Yeah, I agree. One of my biggest issues with Ghazi, ShitRedditSays and similar subs is the forced universal agreement. It just polarizes things and radicalizes people to a different spectrum IMO.
The idea that PDP is a nazi is laughable to me. If he is in any way behaving 'reactionary' and acting more edgelordy lately, I'd blame how the WSJ unfairly slandered his ass, as well as the overblown outrage to it (as exhibited by [oh I dunno] GamerGhazi to it). Despite the username, I'm actually pretty leftist on social policy (markets shouldn't be interfered with though!) and I think the these radical echo chambers are an embarrassment sometimes. Things like Linda Sarsour getting support for leading the women's march and the rhetoric of speech = violence in particular and so on are extremely disillusioning to me at least.
Lol none of that compares to the time I ALMOST got banned previously because I held the view that exercise and a proper diet shift actually helps you lose weight, I legit made someone lose sleep over it and they cried and I got called privledged despite actually being overweight myself.
Exactly what it was. When I made a thread about going into law enforcement and how I was feeling conflicted because it's a normally right leaning profession and I'm liberal of course, they tore into me, I got PM's calling me a class traitor and people hoping someone shoots me.
All of these instances has really made me realize that right or left, they all have the same arguing tactics, they troll and flame, pm death threats and basically don't want to hear your side at all because they are 100% sure they are right and you are wrong.
While still pretty liberal in most of my views, I'm more centrist or "neutral" now, Ghazi hates neutrals.
Yeah, I'm sorry. Guess there is a bias towards the right in American police. Where I'm from I'm doubt this is the case - more of an economic need thing (home has pretty bad unemployment). Don't let that anti-police bullshit dissuade you, the only way to make an institution less racist (I would argue with people that individuals can be racists, but institutions themselves aren't, anyway that's a whole other tangent) is to change them with in. It seems to me some Ghazi / super-left folk seem to host radical ideas that police should be destroyed. I find that nuts, reform is better.
All of these instances has really made me realize that right or left, they all have the same arguing tactics, they troll and flame, pm death threats and basically don't want to hear your side at all because they are 100% sure they are right and you are wrong.
My feelings exactly. The anti-sjw's claim that left / SJWs practice 'no bad tactics, only bad targets' has a sting of truth to it. (Ideally) These tactics should unilaterally be called out by people across the spectrum.
But seriously, stick around in /r/drama, the userbase is very politically varied and the sub really is more """centrist""" than certain reddit subs give it credit for. /u/Snallygaster, best mod ever, notice me Senpai, can attest to how it isn't an alt-right hivemind despite being very freeze peach.
I've generally never liked gamergate, I felt like the issue was blown out of proportion and they kinda rushed in the culture war we have now
I've realized over time that I'm more centrist I guess? When you've been on both side, know the talking points and see how similar each side argues, you just get tired of the shit.
I think their name does enough to explain how they unironically care about people they (probably) never interact with in real life, more than what is considered healthy.
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1 Oh_hamburgers_ 2017-07-25
They're going to need a shipment of fainting couches over there stat.
1 wowbagger88 2017-07-25
What if I look at it as a bunch of hysterical progressives unable to comprehend that not everyone agrees with them and their ideas aren't as unassailable as television told them, and in return sensible, logical, large cocked True Americans keep trolling them, /u/OneJobToRuleThemAll?
1 Fletch71011 2017-07-25
That's weird, because that's not how I look at this at all. It's a YouTube celebrity trying to be an edgelord, it's not exactly rare. Who cares?
1 w00ds98 2017-07-25
The worst thing in my opinion that people like this don't get is that pewdiepies fanbase grew with him. I guess theres still kids watching but the people that watched him 6 years ago and still do they are gasp 6 years older now and pewdiepie gasp also got 6 years older and realizes that he would like to do other content.
There might still be alot of kids watching but judging from the comment sections on his videos, the comments that aren't adds, are normally people that are 18+ years old and understand that he's not serious.
Its really bothering me, since this should be such a simple thought process. But this is the internet so I guess Im just asking for too much..
1 mehforeverybody 2017-07-25
My guess is that PewDiePie was linked to ghazi and similar subs and because he has too much "fuck money" to have something better to do or work, now he's just triggering them on purpose.
1 HivemindBuster 2017-07-25
But actually what the fuck is happening with pewds and these dogwhistles?
1 AltRightRulesReddit 2017-07-25
THE GLORIOUS ARYAN IS WAKING FROM HIS SLUMBER
1 pepperouchau 2017-07-25
THE YOLKS ARE BEGINNING TO EMULSIFY
1 YiffReich 2017-07-25
IF THERE'S EGGS I'LL FERTILIZE THEM
1 lvl99SkrubRekker 2017-07-25
He's a entertainer, he's making money by being provocative.
1 SperglockHolmes 2017-07-25
W O K E
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1 neutralvoter 2017-07-25
same thing with illuminati imagery in music videos. It gets spergs to sperg out which gets attention for your product and is funny to watch. you're basically watching the next generation of conspiracy theorists stake their claims. it's glorious
1 Makoto_Niijima 2017-07-25
Crude drawings of frogs are scary for losers.
1 freet0 2017-07-25
It turns out if you draw a cartoon frog in your video people will post it all over the internet to screech about how you're Hitler and give you more views.
1 HivemindBuster 2017-07-25
I mean when you're already accused publicly of having alt-right sympathies, probably not a good idea to plant kekistan flags and pepe's in your vids if you want to disassociate yourself from all that shit - but maybe I'm missing some crucial context somewhere.
1 YiffReich 2017-07-25
Contextual satire.
1 w00ds98 2017-07-25
since when is pepe a sign of the alt-right? What the fuck did I miss people?
1 AltRightRulesReddit 2017-07-25
Hillary "yass queen" Clinton had an article on her website yelling about a cartoon frog during the election.
I'm not making that up.
1 w00ds98 2017-07-25
Jesus fuck. So because a political person says a meme is alt-right it automatically is?
Damn Ill become a politican and say that one insert currency is zero insert currency and watch whatever country elected me fall into madness.
1 AltRightRulesReddit 2017-07-25
I hear that bitcoin is the currency of the alt-right. Spread the word.
1 w00ds98 2017-07-25
shares article on facebook
1 HivemindBuster 2017-07-25
Do you live in a fantasy bizarro world where Pepe isn't ubiquitous in practically every alt right circle, especially /pol/? Why do you think this cunt has it pinned to his jacket? Just a crazy coincidence?
1 w00ds98 2017-07-25
Its people taking a symbol that does not belong to their community and using it for something it was not intended to cough swastika cough. Now Im not saying the swastika is not a symbol of hate, simply that pepe is like a small scale version of what happened with the swastika and thus should not be taken as seriously as a swastika.
1 HivemindBuster 2017-07-25
Since pol appropriated for 90% of its meme content.
1 YiffReich 2017-07-25
le edgelord intensifies
1 freet0 2017-07-25
hmmmmm
1 YiffReich 2017-07-25
Normies need to be forced to try on fursuits at least once though.
1 Wraith_GraveSpell 2017-07-25
pewdiepie plays a game where you kill nazis and another game where Trumps head gets blown off.
"crickets"
Pewdiepie makes an edgy joke
"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
1 magalucaribro 2017-07-25
That thread isn't so much about drama as it is a giant 'tism fit. It went from funny to sad in the span of the first 5 posts.
1 SpectroSpecter 2017-07-25
I can't find anything they do amusing. It's like watching a deformed person screaming because their caretaker told them to go to bed.
1 oshnyve 2017-07-25
"don't generalize millennials! it's generation z that's trash!"
1 tathrowaway666 2017-07-25
Ah yes, the great white supremacy symbols of the kekistan flag and pepe, obviously not shitposters trying to be as edgy as humanly possible by pissing off millions of people with a cartoon frog.
1 The_DJSeahorse 2017-07-25
It's amazing how bereft of a sense of humor these people are. I mean I think all that Kekistan crap is pretty cringe, but re freak out from these delicate flowers over Nazi LARPers is hilarious.
1 MrUnsmileyMan 2017-07-25
I've just accepted that being a cringey faggot is part of who I am at this point
1 autistitron 2017-07-25
A lot of that is also pretending, they humor each other to fit in and because calling out BS just gets them called a Nazi.
End result is a lot of people pretending to misunderstand everything.
1 The_DJSeahorse 2017-07-25
That's actually more terrifying to me than Nazis.
1 Tony_AbbottPBUH 2017-07-25
ya kids are already ruined if they're watching this trash anyway
1 grafton29 2017-07-25
Bitch it's all about Jake Paul. ITS EVERYDAY BRO.
1 lvl99SkrubRekker 2017-07-25
JAKE PAUL OR DIE MY NIGGA
1 King-Achelexus 2017-07-25
This is hilarious. An entire generation is being raised watching PDP, meanwhile I enjoy watching Ghazi/Neogaf/Etc squirm in rage over that,
1 Kekistanian9000 2017-07-25
Imagine how fucked up you will be at the end.
1 InspiringShitpost 2017-07-25
Blue, red and black pills have nothing on the PewDiePill.
1 Cauchemar89 2017-07-25
Oh for the love of god.
How fucking out of touch do you have to be to not realize that the first "proof" with the flag is satirising the whole Kekistan shtick?
It even literally says on the top right "very edgy".
1 Kekistanian9000 2017-07-25
Normie, kys.
1 Levy_Wilson 2017-07-25
How do you satirize something that is already satire?
1 Cauchemar89 2017-07-25
Because like with every satire movement it sooner or later attracts retards that actually take it seriously.
1 YiffReich 2017-07-25
Poor /u/Stolles, he tried to flirt with reasonableness on the PDP and Ghazi defurred him for it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/6p867w/pewdiepie_puts_altright_kekistan_references_in/dknfed5/
Come join us here in /r/drama, Stolles, fuck that Ghazi echo-chamber. We have furries, we want the mayocide, what else do you need?!
1 AlpineIrregular 2017-07-25
Five paragraphs about intersectional oppression in Mario Kart, with /u/Caelrie coming in at the end to whine about how people shouldn't focus on Bowser when Peach is clearly the true victim, as all women are.
1 ironicshitpostr 2017-07-25
It's hard avoiding being the victim when you're only 77% as strong and intelligent as a man.
1 Stolles 2017-07-25
Lol I had gotten banned for it too
1 YiffReich 2017-07-25
For serious? Wow, weren't you a regular poster? Youch, sorry dude. Did they lift it?
1 Stolles 2017-07-25
I was, I've been there a long time, since just about the inception of the sub itself.
I have the story of what happened ready and written up, I was going to post here in reply but I wasn't sure if you wanted to read it all, let me know and I'll post it.
1 YiffReich 2017-07-25
I'm definitely interested.
1 Stolles 2017-07-25
It's drama so I figured you would :P
So check it out, I was banned the day prior for this (another PDP thing)
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/6o471l/sandy_hook_truther_alex_jones_is_trying_to_get_in/dkg31ta/?context=10000
I made my edit after looking at the guys profile and seeing what he actually posted, he was calling me names, cursing and basically calling me an alt-right troll. I wish I had screenshotted it at the time.
I was banned for 3 days (which I served) the message was:
Did the warning about being civil come across to you like I had to disengage the conversation altogether? It sure didn't to me.
So fine whatever, it was bullshit but it's not a huge loss. Fast forward to the day I am unbanned, that thread is front and center on the sub, so I try my fucking damndest to be as polite and sincere in my disagreement as I can, I won't engage in anyone who is flaming or trying to troll and I will just report it.
I was legit curious as to why using memes and knowing PDP and his style, he's joking about 90% if not more of the stuff in his videos. I get it, shitty humor and all whatever, but to think that he is literally alt-right in his personal beliefs? Really? I wasn't buying it.
I head out to the gym (got to make those gains, I'm heading into the police academy, something Ghazi also did not approve of but that's another story) and by the time I come back, I see I have some decent replies, however right at the top of my inbox posts, I see I have been banned again and this time it's not temp and there is no message as to why.
When I asked very simply why I was banned?
And
The latter of which I'm no fan of but I was unaware of it, nor does that make me believe that PDP is alt-right.
So I apologized and yadayada, they discussed it and changed it to a 2 day ban instead.
Now here is my problem with this, I was told that (and I've known this) they will ban you straight up if they think you're "concern trolling" which means they think you're a troll or a right winger just there to debate for the sake of it, you also can't use words like "civil discourse" because that's a red flag. So fuck me right?
Upon discovering that I'm not any of that, they still chose to keep me banned, insinuating that I still did something wrong by way of simply disagreeing with the circlejerk. That's what pisses me off.
1 YiffReich 2017-07-25
Did some diggin, look like this comment:
and this comment:
Yeah, I agree. One of my biggest issues with Ghazi, ShitRedditSays and similar subs is the forced universal agreement. It just polarizes things and radicalizes people to a different spectrum IMO.
The idea that PDP is a nazi is laughable to me. If he is in any way behaving 'reactionary' and acting more edgelordy lately, I'd blame how the WSJ unfairly slandered his ass, as well as the overblown outrage to it (as exhibited by [oh I dunno] GamerGhazi to it). Despite the username, I'm actually pretty leftist on social policy (markets shouldn't be interfered with though!) and I think the these radical echo chambers are an embarrassment sometimes. Things like Linda Sarsour getting support for leading the women's march and the rhetoric of speech = violence in particular and so on are extremely disillusioning to me at least.
1 Stolles 2017-07-25
Lol none of that compares to the time I ALMOST got banned previously because I held the view that exercise and a proper diet shift actually helps you lose weight, I legit made someone lose sleep over it and they cried and I got called privledged despite actually being overweight myself.
1 YiffReich 2017-07-25
Ouch again, of course we shouldn't rip people to shreds for being large, but once again Ghazi goes too far.
1 Stolles 2017-07-25
Exactly what it was. When I made a thread about going into law enforcement and how I was feeling conflicted because it's a normally right leaning profession and I'm liberal of course, they tore into me, I got PM's calling me a class traitor and people hoping someone shoots me.
All of these instances has really made me realize that right or left, they all have the same arguing tactics, they troll and flame, pm death threats and basically don't want to hear your side at all because they are 100% sure they are right and you are wrong.
While still pretty liberal in most of my views, I'm more centrist or "neutral" now, Ghazi hates neutrals.
1 YiffReich 2017-07-25
Yeah, I'm sorry. Guess there is a bias towards the right in American police. Where I'm from I'm doubt this is the case - more of an economic need thing (home has pretty bad unemployment). Don't let that anti-police bullshit dissuade you, the only way to make an institution less racist (I would argue with people that individuals can be racists, but institutions themselves aren't, anyway that's a whole other tangent) is to change them with in. It seems to me some Ghazi / super-left folk seem to host radical ideas that police should be destroyed. I find that nuts, reform is better.
My feelings exactly. The anti-sjw's claim that left / SJWs practice 'no bad tactics, only bad targets' has a sting of truth to it. (Ideally) These tactics should unilaterally be called out by people across the spectrum.
1 YiffReich 2017-07-25
But seriously, stick around in /r/drama, the userbase is very politically varied and the sub really is more """centrist""" than certain reddit subs give it credit for. /u/Snallygaster, best mod ever, notice me Senpai, can attest to how it isn't an alt-right hivemind despite being very freeze peach.
1 Stolles 2017-07-25
I do love me some good drama
1 AltRightRulesReddit 2017-07-25
TOXIC AS FUCK.
1 Stolles 2017-07-25
They were very, yes.
1 AltRightRulesReddit 2017-07-25
How do you feel about pedophiles and rapists being the face of the anti-faggot game journalist movement?
1 Stolles 2017-07-25
Lol I'm not sure I understand
1 AltRightRulesReddit 2017-07-25
Read this series of tweets.
https://twitter.com/gamingandpandas/status/826354847003836417?lang=en
1 Stolles 2017-07-25
I've generally never liked gamergate, I felt like the issue was blown out of proportion and they kinda rushed in the culture war we have now
I've realized over time that I'm more centrist I guess? When you've been on both side, know the talking points and see how similar each side argues, you just get tired of the shit.
1 Kysbu 2017-07-25
>unironically caring about youtube """""celebrities"""""
/u/mrasarescum kys
1 tathrowaway666 2017-07-25
I think their name does enough to explain how they unironically care about people they (probably) never interact with in real life, more than what is considered healthy.
1 PM_ME_HAIRLESS_CATS 2017-07-25
I retract anything I said where Ghazi was even partially right. These people are denser than lead.