[Self drama] Comic claims that holding a Nazi flag is hate speech and is therefore unprotected by the Constitution. User mentions that the Supreme Court has ruled the exact opposite way. TrollX users literally shriek, vomit, and burst into tears simultaneously, REEEEEEEEEEEing in unison.
268 2017-08-18 by Rubitinwhydontyou
263 comments
1 SnapshillBot 2017-08-18
Your condescending, contradictory bullshit isn't attractive to anyone except your frothing, basement-dwelling, virgin army.
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1 Rubitinwhydontyou 2017-08-18
sentient
1 wwyzzerdd 2017-08-18
If you want to swim in the sewer you should swim in ours.
We have chicks with dicks and homemade liquor.
1 Rubitinwhydontyou 2017-08-18
would a chick's dick be considered bussy by any chance?
1 wwyzzerdd 2017-08-18
Negative Ghost Rider.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
I've never been clear on whether bussy is (1) a man's butthole (2) any butthole (3) Bangkok frankengash or (4) some combination of the three.
1 pigeondoubletake 2017-08-18
It's the first one. "Boy pussy".
1 JenkemJoe 2017-08-18
you can always find out at /r/dickgirls ..
1 RalphiesBoogers 2017-08-18
The only thing I discovered there is the meaning of love.
1 JenkemJoe 2017-08-18
Now see, I would have thought you to be an /r/ProlapseVille guy...
Ain't misconceptions a bitch?
1 ffbtaw 2017-08-18
Sapient, you washed up grammar nazi.
1 Ylajali_2002 2017-08-18
You're a Nazi.
1 DoktuhParadox 2017-08-18
tfw frothing
1 nomorepushing 2017-08-18
"shut up! Get out!"
Make me? So much for fighting words, right?
1 XhotwheelsloverX 2017-08-18
Facts? In MY feminist circlejerk? Shut up, get out, and never come back!
1 AvocadoCake 2017-08-18
/u/horizontalmotions has a man ever said something to you that you disagreed with and wasn't mansplaining?
1 HorizontalMotions 2017-08-18
You're a Nazi.
1 Basically_Trash 2017-08-18
Are you real
1 HorizontalMotions 2017-08-18
Are you a Nazi???
I know that /r/drama is a cryptohate sub. This board came from /r/MensRights and /r/KotakuInAction to spread alt-right hate messages, like Pepe the Frog. Please stop tagging me.
1 Basically_Trash 2017-08-18
Woah. Hey want to go out and get lunch sometime? We can talk about gardening. Did you know that weeds are actually good for your lawn?
1 drunk_texan 2017-08-18
Ok, wait. What? They are?
1 166609-1-3224404__1_ 2017-08-18
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoculture
1 WikiTextBot 2017-08-18
Monoculture
Monoculture is the agricultural practice of producing or growing a single crop, plant, or livestock species, variety, or breed in a field or farming system at a time. Polyculture, where more than one crop is grown in the same space at the same time, is the alternative to monoculture. Monoculture is widely used in both industrial farming and organic farming and has allowed increased efficiency in planting and harvest.
Continuous monoculture, or monocropping, where the same species is grown year after year, can lead to the quicker buildup of pests and diseases, and then rapid spread where a uniform crop is susceptible to a pathogen.
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1 the_popcorn_pisser 2017-08-18
Good bot.
1 Vakieh 2017-08-18
Cryptohate implies we hide it. We don't.
Fuck you I hope you die. You deserve to be alone and cold when you go.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-08-18
This but with a carrot up my butt
1 Fletch71011 2017-08-18
Both of those subs suck and so do you.
1 HivemindBuster 2017-08-18
Definitely satire/troll.
1 Mort_DeRire 2017-08-18
Yeah, not subtle enough
Retards still bite though, somehow
1 TSA_Precheck 2017-08-18
What else am I supposed to do with these teeth
1 Thulean-Dragon 2017-08-18
Definite troll. Still made me guffaw, though.
1 guyjin 2017-08-18
Why? trollx legit believes this.
1 Alexlincoln2 2017-08-18
Are you real? You can't be real. No one is dumb enough to think this
1 MisterHundred 2017-08-18
goddamn it hillbilly i swear to god if this is you. the troll game in toomanychromosomes is too high.
1 PastaVagioli 2017-08-18
[I wonder...](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes/comments/6uenln/i_literally_stood_up_and_applauded_at_this_tweet/
1 Wordshark 2017-08-18
Haha yeah, 100% that's our deep-dicked pal
1 uniqueguy263 2017-08-18
Who's alt are you?
1 beskargamkote 2017-08-18
/u/HorizontalMotions Post your bussy
1 BrideOfAutobahn 2017-08-18
/u/HorizontalMotions or gussy
1 Awayfone 2017-08-18
Eww that is disgusting, you freak
1 TSwizzlesNipples 2017-08-18
If you u-ping more than 3 times, it doesn't u-ping at all.
1 DoktuhParadox 2017-08-18
I can't believe you're calling us a cryptohate sub when all we talk about is the mayocide. If anything this is just a regular hate sub. Show some respect.
1 pi_over_3 2017-08-18
We fucking rag on trumpards and T_D all the time too.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2017-08-18
Good troll.
1 Awayfone 2017-08-18
Ok what are you talking about I love crypto. Best pet superman had
1 NationalDenbt 2017-08-18
crypto - hate / / クソマヨネーズ
1 ZeitgeistNow 2017-08-18
A E S T H E T I C
1 Stuntman119 2017-08-18
How can we be Nazis when we literally want to gas whitey?
1 IanPatrick1966 2017-08-18
Bravo I can't tell if this is satire or if you are actually retarded
1 shadowbanned2 2017-08-18
Wrong. You can't be a hate sub if you're against whitey
MayocideNow
1 pizzashill 2017-08-18
Jesus Christ I hope this is satire, are you literally retarded?
1 Ennui2778 2017-08-18
2/10
You tried.
1 SamWhite 2017-08-18
Hey, what's a cryptohate sub, as opposed to just a standard hate sub? What's the difference here?
1 aonome 2017-08-18
Which /r/drama user are you?
1 Pistachiothenut 2017-08-18
WHAT DOES THIS MEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAN
1 BigDaddy_Delta 2017-08-18
Are you retarded?
1 crbiker 2017-08-18
It was reaffirmed recently, too.
1 moush 2017-08-18
The supreme Court is half Nazi so of course they would!
1 landwalker1 2017-08-18
Let me mansplain the word Nazi to you.
"a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, which controlled Germany from 1933 to 1945 under Adolf Hitler and advocated totalitarian government, territorial expansion, anti-Semitism, and Aryan supremacy, all these leading directly to World War II and the Holocaust."
However, there are looser uses like femi-nazi, which you seem to be claiming ownership of.
1 dongas420 2017-08-18
You have it backwards. Sure, we may promote genocide on the regular, but it's the mass murder of mayos that we advocate, not that of actual human beings such as Jews or black people.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-08-18
No you're the puppet
1 NationalDenbt 2017-08-18
Well that was a bit of a jump.
1 RenegadeJoeson 2017-08-18
This
1 Forseti5 2017-08-18
So disagreeing with you and calling you out on your own bigotry = Nazi. And Nazis should be beaten/killed right?
Gee, could this attitude ever backfire and get out of hand? /s
1 saint2e 2017-08-18
Imagine getting downvoted for playing the "mansplaining" trump card in TrollX..
That's how you know you dun goofed.
1 Mort_DeRire 2017-08-18
God that's embarrassing. That person was 100% right. Holding a nazi flag is 100% protected speech and anybody who didn't have their fingers in their ears going "lalala" would understand that. And that's coming from a radical centrist who hates brumpf
1 LatinDRAMA 2017-08-18
DINGLE GRUMPF NEEDS TO GET OUT RIGHT NOW
1 Mort_DeRire 2017-08-18
I think I might hate Jon Oliver more than I hate Phlumph if that's any consolation
1 LatinDRAMA 2017-08-18
Grinkle Rumpf is kind of a centrist though, he pisses off republicans and democrats, hates nazis and commies, and shit talks both sides 24/7.
1 grungebot5000 2017-08-18
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastian_Gorka
1 WikiTextBot 2017-08-18
Sebastian Gorka
Sebastian Lukács Gorka (Hungarian: Gorka Sebestyén Lukács; born October 22, 1970) is an American military and intelligence analyst. He serves as a deputy assistant to President of the United States Donald Trump. Gorka was born in the United Kingdom to Hungarian parents, lived in Hungary from 1992 to 2008, and in 2012 became a naturalized American citizen.
Gorka has written for a variety of publications, is generally considered politically conservative and has ties to the alt-right.
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1 roshampo13 2017-08-18
'Very fine people'
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
Sebastian Gorka is correct about Islamic immigration, though.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-08-18
❄️
1 EvanHarper 2017-08-18
dude no, Gorka is a bad guy to take advice from even if you are a massive right-wing national security hawk. guy is completely unqualified and an obvious moron
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
He knows how to deal with the Islams.
1 EvanHarper 2017-08-18
intimidate them into compliance with his attempt at RP?
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
Just. Say. No.
1 grungebot5000 2017-08-18
i hope that's his defense in two years. "the left made me do it"
1 niexx 2017-08-18
GORKAAAAAAAAAA!
1 cleverseneca 2017-08-18
Some Historian is gonna look back on all the interesting combinations of letters this president has been named and conclude his name base was "um" with pre and post modifiers to indicate the aspect of his rule that was being discussed...
1 WatermelonWarlord 2017-08-18
What's a radical centrist look like ideologically? That sounds to me like "radically neutral".
1 Mort_DeRire 2017-08-18
Capitalist/free markets but not nearly ancap, understand the importance of regulation and role of government but not so much that it stifles innovation or investment, trust in the Fed and central banks, etc
1 WatermelonWarlord 2017-08-18
Doesn't sound too much unlike me, actually. This may be a silly question, but are there any subs/readings for that kind of thing?
1 Mort_DeRire 2017-08-18
/r/neoliberal tbh but it kind of got invaded by the masses when it hit /r/all a couple times. But I think they still extol the closest opinions to me and have good discussions.
But if you go there you'll have /u/prince_kropotkin up your asshole following you around
1 WatermelonWarlord 2017-08-18
What'll the prince be following me around for?
1 Mort_DeRire 2017-08-18
He is obsessed with /r/neoliberal and constantly links to it to try to argue with it. He'll eventually end up in a padded room muttering about the sub
1 WatermelonWarlord 2017-08-18
Looked at his profile analysis: anarchist leftist. Nothing I haven't gotten yelled at by before. I think I'll be fine. Thanks for the recommendation though!
1 Karmaisforsuckers 2017-08-18
Hes been posting his agendaposts with his alts lately. Its really pathetic and obvious Lemon_score or something is one of then.
1 ThatDamnedImp 2017-08-18
Neoliberals are responsible for the Great Recession, and for the fact that bankers were made whole at the expense of normal people. It's a widely discredited label amongst anyone who was actually an adult in 2007.
I don't know what PK has against the label. He is, by all accounts, a total cunt. But neoliberals are the scum of this earth. The most corrupt ideology currently functioning.
1 EvanHarper 2017-08-18
The minor renaissance in calling yourself a "neoliberal" and the popularity of /r/neoliberal is specifically in response to this kind of overheated rhetoric. It's ridiculous to pretend people just aren't aware of it and would just stop calling themselves "neoliberals" if only you spouted it at them.
1 EvanHarper 2017-08-18
/r/neoliberal has always been pretty shit, especially their attempts to stich together a coherent decades-long narrative of how "neoliberalism" has always meant a particular thing. they should just be honest and say they're repurposing a left-wing snarl world that took off from about the 1980s-2000s and has basically nothing to do with the various other uses of "neoliberalism" over the years
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
You know that President Trump was not always a Republican, yes?
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
Cool. Can you do that without opening the floodgates to illegal immigration and Islamic influence and generally imposing San Francisco idiocy on the whole country? Because that would be nice.
1 Tony_AbbottPBUH 2017-08-18
you really want to know our solution to preventing illegal immigration?
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
First I want to know that you want to prevent it at all. You haven't even convinced anyone of that yet.
1 Tony_AbbottPBUH 2017-08-18
open
the
borders
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
Yes, we know you are traitors.
I spit on liberals.
1 Tony_AbbottPBUH 2017-08-18
It's true, you will be left even more unemployable than you already are. But you don't need to worry because there will be a robust and sustainable social security net in place, and the children you bear with your sister-wife will have access to high quality free education and a single-payer healthcare option.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
The liberal attacks on the unemployed are really helping them at the polls.
One might say it is making liberal politicians... unemployed.
1 Tony_AbbottPBUH 2017-08-18
imagine being promised a liveable income regardless of employment status, free education, and single-payer healthcare and feeling attacked
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
This is the part where you are confused. You haven't promised me anything, because I already have those things.
1 Tony_AbbottPBUH 2017-08-18
so you admit being unemployed?
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
I already have a career, an education and healthcare. I probably pay for yours. You aren't offering me anything. You are begging.
But, please, go on pretending some sort of superiority over working people. Do it loudly. Do it publicly.
1 Tony_AbbottPBUH 2017-08-18
lol acting like supporting the orange man is a product of anything other than being born a fuckin spastic cunt
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
Wow, that was incredibly insensitive toward the disabled. Check your privilege.
1 jacksfilmsbot 2017-08-18
me me big disappointment
1 Yadnarav 2017-08-18
r u hurting :> i joos watch ur ass get rekt n it was hot
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
Sorry, I was too busy paying for your free education in Gender Oppression to care.
1 Yadnarav 2017-08-18
Everyone should be paying for everyone's education :> now whine for me like a little girl
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
Post bussy.
1 JohnTheOrc 2017-08-18
~ A Neoliberal
1 Tony_AbbottPBUH 2017-08-18
which one?
1 JohnTheOrc 2017-08-18
U
1 the_popcorn_pisser 2017-08-18
This would work only if they were paying taxes.
So I’m Costa Rican and the reason why some people here have similar complaints with illegal immigration is that they are a huge burden to a social security system that for all we know it’s already bankrupt.
How do you feel about a system of immigration that prioritizes education and skill?
1 Tony_AbbottPBUH 2017-08-18
They do pay taxes. Immigrants are a net benefit.
Your social security system is almost bankrupt, other countries aren't.
1 Heydammit 2017-08-18
Bb Stop with your serious posting. It's not a good look.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
But there was a bad man.
1 kermit_was_right 2017-08-18
SF is pretty sweet. Expensive as fuck... but that's partly because it's a pretty nice place to live.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
SF is gay and retarded. Which, to be fair, is fine for gay retards. But SF gay retardism should not be imposed on the rest of the nation.
1 kermit_was_right 2017-08-18
There are only a handful of places in US that aren't retarded, and SF is one of them. Quite gay though, yes.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
SF was alright when it was just gay. Now it is full of autists, self-righteous pricks, and 4s that think they are cool because they moved out of Iowa.
1 kermit_was_right 2017-08-18
Are you one of those?
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
Sometimes.
1 kermit_was_right 2017-08-18
Well get the fuck out, too many trannies as is.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
I just visit for business now. Fuck paying to live in that frozen rat-trap.
1 the_popcorn_pisser 2017-08-18
What’s a 4S?
1 Yadnarav 2017-08-18
Redneckistan is such a better place to live. Lemme hit up Nebraska or some other piece of shit
1 Tell_them_to_shrug 2017-08-18
This but unironically
1 Yadnarav 2017-08-18
Ew
1 Unicorn_Abattoir 2017-08-18
Or Maine with its shitty backwards top-5 standard of living.
1 Yadnarav 2017-08-18
Yes because Maine is smack dab in the middle of redneckistan lololol
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
You don't actually live in SF. You will never afford a home there. You are just a transient, and you will move out to the next hipster haven when you can no longer stand living in 900 sq ft
1 Yadnarav 2017-08-18
So my point stands :>
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
If you can't bear "redneckistan", Los Angeles is a better bet. At least the women are good-looking there.
1 jaredschaffer27 2017-08-18
http://mochimachine.org/wasteland/
It's just a map of where humans like to shit directly onto sidewalks and roads in SF.
The one for Omaha is coming soon, I'm sure.
1 Mort_DeRire 2017-08-18
For the record, San Francisco is a place whose citizens are actually in favor of zoning reform to increase the supply of housing and bring down rents, and many realize that rent controls are stupid, so they're ahead of the curve on that one. Which opinions that San Franciscans in general hold do you specifically disagree with?
With regards to illegal immigrants, I'm in favor of relaxed borders but with residency requirements for receiving benefits. I don't think islamic-militant influence with regard to illegal immigrants is nearly as much of a threat here as it is in Europe.
1 ThatDamnedImp 2017-08-18
Typically? In real life, it tends to mean 'massively corrupt'. Technocrat and neoliberal, too.
Actual politicians using these labels usually just sell all public goods off to the politically well-connected, leading to pricier, but inferior services. They collude with banking and real-estate to prevent normal people from being able to recoup losses due to fraud. They typically refuse to invest in the public well being, instead preferring to fund private projects (like sports stadiums and bridges-to-nowhere). And they often coincide with massive levels of police brutality to keep normal people too frightened and worried to effectively mount a counter to said policies.
It's a label that appeals mostly to children, because by the time you get to be 30+, you realize that everyone who uses it is a fraud.
1 EvanHarper 2017-08-18
Privatization schemes you can argue, but "sports stadiums are generally expensive boondoggles favored for political reasons" and "infrastructure funding is allocated terribly, leading to new projects of marginal usefulness in politically favored districts while sorely needed renewal projects go undone" are staple neoliberal critiques. You really don't know what you're talking about here and need to stop taking Naomi Klein as a political mentor.
1 166609-1-3224404__1_ 2017-08-18
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/6u9yv3/slug/dlr2f6c
1 Ylajali_2002 2017-08-18
You're a Nazi.
1 niczar 2017-08-18
You're a Nazi, you're a Nazi, you're a Nazi, EVERYONE IS A NAZI!
1 Allahu_Laysa_Akbar 2017-08-18
Everyone's a Nazi! It's cool when call you people you hate Nazis Everyone's a Nazi! Expect me!
1 nybbas 2017-08-18
What's so silly about this all is that people have been arguing that the one of the many reasons the whole punch a nazi thing is a bad idea, is because maybe the person you are punching isn't actually a nazi. Seeing how these fuckers have been labelling pretty much everyone who doesn't think we should literally delete the first amendment, a nazi, it seems like a very valid concern.
1 Mort_DeRire 2017-08-18
Indeed, and as much as I dislike the alt-right and white nationalist dweebs, that's why I can't actually advocate for people punching them with impunity. Now, if I were to see a white nationalist say to a black person "Go back to your country you nigger!" and the black person threw a punch, let's just say I wouldn't bend over backwards to bear witness against the assailant. But we can't just let people pick and choose who to hit and who not to hit based on their opinions; it's why vigilante justice just can't be officially defended.
1 EvanHarper 2017-08-18
It's extremely annoying that so many people seem to think America has hate-speech laws, lese-majeste laws, aggressive interpretations of what counts as a threat, etc.
1 geoman2k 2017-08-18
Out of curiouslity, do you think that there is or should be any difference between someone carrying a Nazi flag and someone carrying a Nazi flag while holding an assault rifle? I wonder if that could be seen as an imminent threat, because you're holding a symbol that essentially says "I want you dead" and also holding the tool that would allow you to make it happen immediately.
1 aqouta 2017-08-18
Brandishing an assault rifle in a menacing way is already illegal.
1 CarnistHappyCamp 2017-08-18
what about doing it in a polite way?
"Excuse me good sir, please pardon my impertinence, but may I introduce you to my diminutive comrade?"
1 hexane360 2017-08-18
Tbf the comic actually was very careful to make correct statements while sounding like it's saying something else.
The comic said "you think waving a flag is incitement? If it is it's not protected by the 1st amendment!", but read carelessly it would be "waving a flag is not protected by the 1st amendment".
1 Mort_DeRire 2017-08-18
I saw people try to argue this in the comments of the linked thread but I don't agree. He's saying that the mere act of waving the flag is tantamount to advocating for ethnic cleansing, and is ipso facto incitement of violence, which is not protected by the 1st amendment. That's patently untrue, whether we hate nazis (as I do) or not.
I'm genuinely trying to read the comic in a way that it can be interpreted otherwise, but I can't.
1 hexane360 2017-08-18
Oh no I agree with that. But it sounds like he's claiming the Supreme Court agrees with him, when actually he's not.
1 tomato_man123 2017-08-18
At this point I'm completely convinced that left-reddit is suffering from a shared mass delusion/crowd hysteria.
1 Gothmog26 2017-08-18
Trump will get 4 more years if this keeps up.
1 LatinDRAMA 2017-08-18
2 SCOOPS 2 TERMS 2 SIDES
1 IanPatrick1966 2017-08-18
2 GENDERS 2 LEGIT 2 QUIT
1 ThatDamnedImp 2017-08-18
Most Presidents get two terms. They all look like shit until the other party nominates someone even shittier.
Trump looks terrible, but he's going to look like a shining diamond compared to Cory Booker or Andrew Cuomo, who won't even be able to hold their own bases, because the Democratic party insists on nominating corrupt banker pawns from the northeast.
Neither of those people stand a chance in Pennsylvania. The Democrats really need someone who can appeal to workers in Pennsylvania and Ohio, not bankers in NYC.
1 botchlings 2017-08-18
He looks terrible to people who would never vote for him in the first place. His base - the people who got him elected - think he's doing just fine.
Good luck with that. If you haven't figured it out already, Democrats are the wall street cronies that they accuse Republicans of being. They just get away with it because their liberal base overlooks it.
1 Heydammit 2017-08-18
doing just fine has accomplished close to nothing
Does daddy give you a spanking if you talk bad about him?
1 botchlings 2017-08-18
So your response is a couple of broken links and an insult?
So far President Trump has followed through on almost every campaign promise he made. The one big set back of the administration has been healthcare and that failure rest solely on the backs of the GOP Congress/Senate, not President Trump.
Beyond that, the economy is in great shape and getting better every day. If that trend continues he'll have no problem getting re-elected.
1 Heydammit 2017-08-18
Learn to CSS mother fucker, jesus fucking Christ why are you even here?
And do you have sources on him following trough on almost every campaign promise. Most of what I've read has been less than 1/3rd, especially the things that the was hard-line about getting done in the first year.
1 Yadnarav 2017-08-18
plz stoop hurding me feewings n cawwing me tarted for being reatrted it gon make me vote for drumpf agen
makmurikgreddagin eee
1 Gothmog26 2017-08-18
It's not hurt feelings. It's the retardation of anti-Trumpers like you.
1 Yadnarav 2017-08-18
droompf is vewy smat n u doom libbeez n moozlims goona keeeeeeeeeel oos. daty we gon ween :)))
1 Tell_them_to_shrug 2017-08-18
There are Trump supporters that are smarter than you, harder working than you, less neurotic than you, and who give more to charity than you.
Let that sink in.
1 Yadnarav 2017-08-18
Most trumpets are stupider and less educated than me, work much less harder than me, much more neurotic than me, and give much less to charity than me.
Let that sink in
1 Blinwar 2017-08-18
Is your comment history a deliberate pamphlet for government-sponsored retardation care services? Pretty smart, I'd say.
1 Prysorra 2017-08-18
Ugh god.
1 cvetley 2017-08-18
honestly what do you expect. reddit is literally designed from the ground up to let users harass and get rid of anyone who breaks the circlejerk. add that to the fact that they have been cleansing the herds of non-retarded people for many years, and the results aren't suprising.
1 socialliability 2017-08-18
Poe's slaw tastes good with some manaise.
1 Yadnarav 2017-08-18
so that's why t_d sucks so much
1 moush 2017-08-18
The problem for neutrals is that sure t_d is shit, but every sub that doesn't even have to do with politics is shit too right now.
1 Yadnarav 2017-08-18
Yeah t_d can really metastasize can't it
1 zahlman 2017-08-18
To be fair, this is literally the only way to design social media that has been shown to work on any scale whatsoever.
1 zahlman 2017-08-18
To be fair, this is literally the only way to design social media that has been shown to work on any scale whatsoever.
1 WatermelonWarlord 2017-08-18
Hopefully people on the left can push them back to their bubbles. We're lumped in with them and it's a pain in the backside to be compared to hysterical people that can't hear a fact that challenges their idea of a just world without having an emotional breakdown.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
Maybe stop being on a side and, instead, do what is best for your family and your country.
The caveat here, of course, is that "leftism" is inherently about being self-destructive and destructive of your family and your country. So, if you accuse me of picking a "side", then, well, guilty!
1 WatermelonWarlord 2017-08-18
If you stand for things you think are best for your country, you'll inevitably get pushed into a box. I'm liberal. I think that gay marriage is fair, that women should be able to choose, and that religion should stay out of policy. These values will inevitably put me at odds with people that don't hold them, and they call themselves conservatives. So in all things there are sides. This doesn't mean that I can't respect a conservative or that we don't have similar wants for the strength of the nation, but it does mean that our world views for how to get there are incompatible. So there's sides.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
Stop being at odds with the people of your country.
1 WatermelonWarlord 2017-08-18
No.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
Good luck.
1 WatermelonWarlord 2017-08-18
Just out of curiosity, why do you claim I'm at odds with the people of my own country, and why should that matter to me even if it's true? I take positions based on what I think is the right thing, so why would I bend or think it's wrong to stand for those things?
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
Well, let's take an example. In the United States, "free speech" and "armed citizenry" are foundational national concepts. The United States is unique in adhering to those concepts more than almost any other nation, and they are the first two guarantees mentioned to be unshakable in our foundational charter. Separation of church and state is probably good to mention here, too, since many European countries still have state-supported churches and specific religious backgrounds. Thus, campaigning for speech bans, gun bans and theocratic government in the United States would put you directly at odds with your own nation, and should be considered a quixotic endeavor.
Abortion rights, in contrast, are not culturally or historically unique to the United States, and are at best only hinted at in Constitutional scholarship. Thus, while I personally favor abortion rights, it would not be out of the national character to campaign for the opposing view.
1 WatermelonWarlord 2017-08-18
I'm totally confused by where you got the idea that I'm against firearms, free speech, or that I'm for theocratic government.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
I didn't say you were. I don't know you personally. I provided examples of matters where your disagreement would put you clearly at odds with your own nation in an unproductive manner. How you apply what you have learned to your own circumstances is your responsibility.
1 WatermelonWarlord 2017-08-18
Again I'm confused. Earlier you claimed I was at odds with the nation. Do you have any specific examples of this?
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
My point here is to stop considering yourself "at odds with" people of your own nation with whom you have reasonable disagreements over matters of policy. Policy choices have good sides and bad sides, the matters involved are ephemeral, and your own views towards those policies will change over the course of your life. What remains is your people, your nation and your responsibility to participate in the civic life of that nation. One of those responsibilities is to not go to war over ephemeral policy choices.
1 WatermelonWarlord 2017-08-18
Some of these matters are not ephemeral and have a lasting impact on those they affect. Some policies cause unnecessary harm, and on a few of them I doubt I'll change my position.
I'm not going to war. I'm stating discontent. Claiming to be "at odds" with others doesn't mean I want to beat them physically, just politically, and the only reason I want that much is because many policies have two sides and there is one side I can't stand ethically. In the example of gay marriage, my view is that there is the side of equality and the side of religious repression. So I'm at odds with the repressive side.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
There are non-religious reasons to hold the view that gay marriage or abortion are poor policy choices.
1 WatermelonWarlord 2017-08-18
You're acting like I want some kind of foundational change here. I just oppose other Americans on topics I find important.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
I am suggesting that you consider that every policy has good and bad points, and simply consider yourself as favoring a particular policy rather than "opposing other Americans".
It may be simply a shift in interior monologue I am suggesting.
1 WatermelonWarlord 2017-08-18
Unfortunately other Americans are the ones pushing those policies, often for religious purposes. Other Americans aren't "enemies", but they are obstacles towards equality for some. I have no problem calling out the ideas of other Americans because while we're all on the same team, some of us aren't very good team players.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
Equality is a virtue. But, it is not the only virtue, and it is not applicable to every question.
To illustrate: I am neutral on the issue of abortion. Which of my fellow citizens should I deem the "bad" team players?
1 WatermelonWarlord 2017-08-18
Abortion is a more complex issue than "should we treat gays equally?". For that issue, the religious folk blocking others are the "bad" team players. They're pushing their religious values onto others over something that ultimately they'll never have to deal with. They just want to keep gays without equal rights, because they think they are the gatekeepers to everyone else's lives.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
Every issue has more than one side.
That is a good descriptor for all sorts of people who are certain that they are in the right about everything.
1 WatermelonWarlord 2017-08-18
And some sides are stupid. Like in the case of gay marriage. Any reason people come up with to oppose it is one of three things: religious dogma and therefor inadmissible, bad reasoning/lies, or outright bigotry.
Even people who think they're right about everything might not want to legislate other people's rights away. A person can think they're right all day long and if they don't use their ideas to disenfranchise others I won't care nearly as much. But if a person makes a march on the rights of others using shitty reasoning I'm going to consider them on a "side" that I don't want to be on. Therefore, I'll oppose those ideas.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
rights rights rights rights rights rights rights rights rights rights rights rights rights rights rights rights rights rights rights rights rights rights
1 WatermelonWarlord 2017-08-18
Believe it or not, some find those important.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
It is a very one-note song you sing.
1 WatermelonWarlord 2017-08-18
It's a potent example. Another example is keeping religious dogma out of the public sphere.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
Agreed, death to Islam.
1 Yadnarav 2017-08-18
did u feel id in ur boody wen i downvoted u trumpet :]
1 Works_of_memercy 2017-08-18
If those people don't like those things so much, why don't they move to some Muslim theocracy? Sharia law seems much more aligned with their values than liberal democracy.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
Because our country has traditionally not been entirely in favor of those things, obviously.
means we vote on things, as a nation. It does not mean that we must implement the atomistic individualist response to everything even when it is against our best interest.
I have always been 'liberal' and, like you, in favor of gay abortions. Like you, I have never been in favor of religious influence over policy. But, I am also willing to admit that there are destructive side-effects from our policies of license, and that a backlash is warranted.
1 Works_of_memercy 2017-08-18
I doubt you'll hear that argument from them though.
1 StrategicSarcasm 2017-08-18
What is your stance on bussy though?
1 aqouta 2017-08-18
Pro
1 moush 2017-08-18
It's impossible for everyone to be compatible. You have to pick your battles
1 WatermelonWarlord 2017-08-18
I didn't say everyone was incompatible. Jus the opposite, actually. But some people are.
1 -absolutego- 2017-08-18
I think you're over-emphasizing sides here. I consider myself a liberal, and agree with all the positions you outlined above, but I also think there are only two genders, that the US is not a rape culture, and that making college free to students will backfire horribly, putting me at odds with established left-wing opinions on those issues.
The vast majority of people have a mix of opinions from either side of the aisle depending on the issue at hand, and, honestly, if someone 100% falls into one side or the other I question how much effort they've actually made in forming their political outlook.
1 WatermelonWarlord 2017-08-18
I think you're reading too much into my comment. I'm making a point about standing up for what you believe in, and how doing so will inevitably put you at odds with people that don't want those things. I don't fall in line 100% with left-wing opinions. In fact, since what's "in vogue" in political opinions changes from year to year, being 100% in line with one side would mean I'm a value-less sheep.
I don't think that's a good way to be. Hopefully that comes across in my comment.
1 -absolutego- 2017-08-18
That makes sense, and I probably was reading too much into it. I've been seeing a lot of demands for ideological conformity and polarization these days and it's made me leery of labels. The "inevitably get pushed into a box" resonated a little too close to home for me.
1 WatermelonWarlord 2017-08-18
I understand. I'm not advocating for ideological conformity at all. I'm just saying that some people will oppose your opinions, and that inevitably creates "sides". Take gay marriage. I'm for it. Someone that's against it may be a nice person overall, but since I see their position as harmful (eapecially if they're politically active about it), that naturally puts me at odds with them. How can you not take a side against something you see as unjust and unfair?
1 darth_stroyer 2017-08-18
Hello bizarro /r/circlebroke2!
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
There is a lot of high-octane faggotry going on in /r/drama right now
1 Heydammit 2017-08-18
Stop being on a side, as long as you are on my side.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
Well, the side of everything good and everyone who is not self-destructive and full of self-loathing. :-D
1 Rubitinwhydontyou 2017-08-18
That's a very succinct explanation for the situation. I think they've suffered emotional damage because as 16-22 year old rich white kids, this is the first time in their lives that they didn't get their way.
1 moush 2017-08-18
It does not stop at 22. I'm 29 and all I see on Facebook is this shit.
1 menvaren 2017-08-18
I have chicks in their 40's pulling this shit in my Facebook feed. I think it's more tied to stupidity than age.
1 wwyzzerdd 2017-08-18
Age is just a number after all.
1 SamWhite 2017-08-18
You would say that you fucking nazi.
1 IAintThatGuy 2017-08-18
Do you mean there's no way Bernie can still win?
1 BrideOfAutobahn 2017-08-18
RENT FREE
1 PoorLilMarco 2017-08-18
You're a Nazi.
1 nomad1c 2017-08-18
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_panic
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Moral panic
A moral panic is a feeling of fear spread among a large number of people that some evil threatens the well-being of society. A Dictionary of Sociology defines a moral panic as "the process of arousing social concern over an issue – usually the work of moral entrepreneurs and the mass media".
The media are key players in the dissemination of moral indignation, even when they do not appear to be consciously engaged in crusading or muckraking. Simply reporting the facts can be enough to generate concern, anxiety, or panic.
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1 botchlings 2017-08-18
It's taken you this long to figure that out?
They have been suffering from a shared mass delusion/hysteria since election night.
1 NameTheJoo 2017-08-18
Lawlessness is a poison. The morally indignant vigilantism that these left-faggots are promoting is going to bite them on the ass.
1 skeetsurfing1984 2017-08-18
Maybe I'm just biased because I am a lawyer, but the opposite of the Rule of Law isn't going to be social justice paradise; it's going to be Donald Trump ruling like Caligula, having people arbitrarily beheaded, ordering Mattis to drop a MOAB on the failing New York Times, claiming the right of prima nocta on all lesbian marriages, etc. all with no appeals.
I mean, I imagine this is his second-term platform anyhow, but there's no need to rush into the Caligula/Nero phase of empire.
1 Rubitinwhydontyou 2017-08-18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obr1XqUPEII#t=05m27s
Ex-KGB officer tells it best.
1 ThatMormonMike 2017-08-18
I know people tend to ignore Yuri, but it's amazing to me that they do. He laid out everything that was being worked on by the Communists 30 years ago and we can actually verify how much of it has happened.
1 dongas420 2017-08-18
I feel Trump will settle for plundering the funds of the government and other businesses to line his own pockets rather than bothering with mass beheadings. It's true, though, that the best timing to encourage practicing might makes right politics over respecting the rule of law isn't exactly when your sworn hated enemies' mascot is currently holding presidential office.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
That sounds fucking amazing. Let's do it.
1 NameTheJoo 2017-08-18
Where did you get your degree? Clown college?
The rule of law is the opposite of tyranny - whether at the hands of a despot, or a wailing mob.
1 skeetsurfing1984 2017-08-18
I believe that's essentially what I just said.
Though if you'd like to play "who's law
penispedigree is bigger?" I guess we could do that as well.1 Soupforbrunch 2017-08-18
Honestly a MOAB on the NYT, and a pina colada lesbian marriage sounds like paradise.
1 MRB2012 2017-08-18
Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Rule of law means the biggest dickhead is not in charge.
1 MRB2012 2017-08-18
It already did in Charlottsville. They learned nothing even after they got a girl killed.
1 keepittropical 2017-08-18
This is not a difficult concept to understand. It is literally the first fucking amendment of the Constitution. No amount of REEEEEEING is going to change this fact unless a couple of these freedom hating retards somehow end up sitting on the supreme court.
1 skeetsurfing1984 2017-08-18
Well, this is technically true in the sense that about anything could happen in the future. But were I a betting person, I would probably note the whole part where the Supreme Court has explicitly reaffirmed the standard for what does or does not constitute "incitement to imminent unlawful action" at least 2-3 every single year since the Skokie case in 1977.
1 jaredschaffer27 2017-08-18
While you absolutely have the right to own a firearm and have a trial by jury, A COURT IN THE FUTURE MAY REVERSE THAT DECISION, YA KNOW?
Checkmate atheists.
1 holditsteady 2017-08-18
This Nazi punching meme is already so tired. We get it guys, you are all totally badass and are definitely gonna get into so many fights. Fighting is cool as hell and you're basically storming the beaches of Normandy when you pepper spray someone and run away
1 moush 2017-08-18
I wonder if there will be any escalation at the next event considering the car attack.
1 Val_P 2017-08-18
I'm betting on a lefty firing into a crowd.
1 Thulean-Dragon 2017-08-18
/u/darkaceAUS
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*sips tee*
1 Baby_Rhino 2017-08-18
I hope you meant 'sweetie'...
1 da394ba8f4646fabe414 2017-08-18
/u/HorizontalMotions imagine unironically being a alt-left neo Communist.
1 Tony_AbbottPBUH 2017-08-18
Go away Nazi scum.
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1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
I upvoted this lolcow and you should too.
1 Stuntman119 2017-08-18
Go away Nazi scum.
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1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-08-18
Upvoted!
1 hexane360 2017-08-18
SCUM NAZI
SCUM NAZI
SCUM NAZI
1 Awayfone 2017-08-18
We can start our own drama? This changes everything
Oh completely shock you were upvoted highly OP, when you said :
1 marmott-e 2017-08-18
I love nazi drama ! On the one hand, being European I can't conceive seeing people march with fucking nazi flags because FUCK NAZIS, but on the other hand I admire the length the US goes to just to protect free speech and I love the rustled jimmies that result from it.
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1 glmox 2017-08-18
shocked that the buzzfeed feminists of trollx don't have serious principles, truly shocked
1 ProphetRith 2017-08-18
1 Yadnarav 2017-08-18
awwww r u butthurt op
1 CurvyAnna 2017-08-18
Retardation? In my Trollx?
1 yetanothercfcgrunt 2017-08-18
Your reading comprehension totally sucks, OP.
The quote in question:
You go on to claim that what the author is saying is that SCOTUS has ruled Nazi flags to be incitement. What that sentence says is that SCOTUS ruled incitement not to be free speech. They made no claim about what SCOTUS has said regarding Nazi flags or whether they qualify as incitement. That was absolutely the comic writer's own interpretation.
1 caliberoverreaching 2017-08-18
Your undertanding of the law sucks even more: Incitement is protected under the law, To the the degree to which incitement is protected speech is determined by the imminent lawless action test introduced by the 1969 Supreme Court decision in the case Brandenburg v. Ohio.
1 yetanothercfcgrunt 2017-08-18
That's irrelevant to the point I was making.
1 ANTIFA_IS_MY_BITCH 2017-08-18
Your reading comprehension totally sucks too
1 CarnistHappyCamp 2017-08-18
worse than his mom?
1 caliberoverreaching 2017-08-18
"What that sentence says is that SCOTUS ruled incitement not to be free speech." This statement isn't true. It's only true for imminent lawlessness.
1 zahlman 2017-08-18
... How the hell do people write things like this with a straight face.