Fart smelling in /r/TodayILearned! User learns what a Gish Gallop is. The comments are about as productive as you'd expect.

25  2017-08-27 by Byrnhildr_Sedai

Bardfinn showing us the proper way to iamverysmart and sniff farts. While others don't really do much better.

General shit show as everyone tries to make the same lol trump joke.

Some how its only a right wing(Nazis) thing. Despite there being literally garbage copy pastas of gish gallops spammed in /r/politics hitting /r/bestof near weekly.

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Oh look, more users who don't know a damn worth of politics. Oh boy.

Holy fucking shit what a neckbeard. /u/Bardfinn has his own set of rules for people replying to him he made for his userpage.

The Rules are subject to update at a later time. If your comment to me is substantially or entirely an ad hominem, you are conceding your side of the argument (your position is forfeit). If your comment to me is substantially or entirely another of the classical, recognised fallacies (for example, but not limited to, Strawmen, No True Scotsman, Red Herrings, Whataboutisms), you are conceding your side of the argument (your position is forfeit). If your comment to me is substantially or entirely a criticism of tone (aside from polite corrections of spelling, usage, or grammar), you are conceding your side of the argument (your position is forfeit). If your comment to me is a bald contradiction (example: "No, you're wrong"), then you have three subsequent comments or 24 hours, whichever comes first, to expand upon the bald contradiction with a substantive line of reasoning (no matter how thin or poor that line of reasoning may be), or you have conceded your side of the argument (your position is forfeit). If your comment to me argues for misogyny, white supremacism, transphobia, homophobia, racism, or any alt-Right position, you have conceded the argument (your position is forfeit). If your position is forfeit under these Rules, you have declared to the world that you are defective (inferior) and a loser. This is irrevocable and unavoidable, and in all other ways permanent. By commenting to me, you understand and signify that the consequences of forfeit include, but are not limited to, being banned from any and all communities (subreddits) on Reddit and further comments of yours being blocked from being delivered. You further understand and signify that the use of other accounts, and the hiring of other users for any compensation whatsoever to undertake circumvention of these bans and blocks, is a violation of your contract with Reddit, Inc. under the User Agreement and that such actions may result in termination of your use of the service as put forth under the User Agreement.

Take your fucking trash elsewhere, or eat it yourself and choke on it. Stop leaving it on my doorstep.

The Rules are subject to update at a later time.

If your comment to me is substantially or entirely an ad hominem, you are conceding your side of the argument (your position is forfeit).

If your comment to me is substantially or entirely another of the classical, recognised fallacies (for example, but not limited to, Strawmen, No True Scotsman, Red Herrings, Whataboutisms), you are conceding your side of the argument (your position is forfeit).

If your comment to me is substantially or entirely a criticism of tone (aside from polite corrections of spelling, usage, or grammar), you are conceding your side of the argument (your position is forfeit).

If your comment to me is a bald contradiction (example: "No, you're wrong"), then you have three subsequent comments or 24 hours, whichever comes first, to expand upon the bald contradiction with a substantive line of reasoning (no matter how thin or poor that line of reasoning may be), or you have conceded your side of the argument (your position is forfeit).

If your comment to me argues for misogyny, white supremacism, transphobia, homophobia, racism, or any alt-Right position, you have conceded the argument (your position is forfeit).

If your position is forfeit under these Rules, you have declared to the world that you are defective (inferior) and a loser. This is irrevocable and unavoidable, and in all other ways permanent.

By commenting to me, you understand and signify that the consequences of forfeit include, but are not limited to, being banned from any and all communities (subreddits) on Reddit and further comments of yours being blocked from being delivered. You further understand and signify that the use of other accounts, and the hiring of other users for any compensation whatsoever to undertake circumvention of these bans and blocks, is a violation of your contract with Reddit, Inc. under the User Agreement and that such actions may result in termination of your use of the service as put forth under the User Agreement.

Take your fucking trash elsewhere, or eat it yourself and choke on it. Stop leaving it on my doorstep.

That's one of the saddest things I've ever read. What a loser.

Why do reddit neckbeards constantly screech about fallacies like this?

You can point them out sometimes, but invoking a fallacy isn't the "automatic argument" win they seem to think it is.

Ironically, them doing this is also a fallacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy

Argument from fallacy

Argument from fallacy is the formal fallacy of analyzing an argument and inferring that, since it contains a fallacy, its conclusion must be false. It is also called argument to logic (argumentum ad logicam), the fallacy fallacy, the fallacist's fallacy, and the bad reasons fallacy.

Fallacious arguments can arrive at true conclusions, so this is an informal fallacy of relevance.


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I have yet to see Gish Gallp accurately applied even though I've seen people accuse others of doing it hundreds of times. In reality it means "You've presented many convincing arguments and I would be lucky to even begin to refute a single one of your points so I'll pretend they are all lies".

The only times I've seen actual Gish Gallop is on /r/conspiracy where they post a huge wall of 9/11 "facts" that are all bullshit.

The anti-vaxxers have one too, it's a copy pasta of 120 studies that prove "vaccines cause autism" and not a single one of them says that.

I see it with the garbage link of "Do you think Republicans and Democrats are the same?"

And its all bills and how they are voted on. However, the post has no links to the bills, and is using very one sided bill names. Like no Republicans voted for the "Give everyone puppies act!" and if you read the actual bill it had a lot of shit like extra spending for Gun Control. It hits /r/bestof a lot.

There is only one Gish Gallop on the internet, and it's the timecube guy.

I thought Gish Gallop could also mean an argument that's got so many sources (regardless of validity) that your opponent can't possibly refute every single on in any reasonable amount of time, so you declare victory because they only managed 15/40 "sources".

Take your fucking trash elsewhere, or eat it yourself and choke on it. Stop leaving it on my doorstep.

I can't decide if that's a dare or a double dare..

It's a cry for help