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I don't see anything about it being related to what the governor said and his tweet was basically exactly what you're supposed to say as a politician you fucking retard. You tell people to keep calm and listen to the authorities. That's about the only useful thing any politician can do during a crisis. If someone gets blamed for this it's not going to be him.

Its an agenda post ofc the OP is an autist who doesnt know what hes talking about.

Why don't have this automatically posted on every single submission here?

New snappy quote!

I was really fucking hoping for a better tweet. This is retarded.

I don't see anything about it being related to what the governor said

Well, HERE is a link to a Washington Post story where the Governor of Texas is urging people to evacuate, even though it's not mandatory.

Then you've got the Mayor telling people not to evacuate. I'm not sure what his reasoning was but I can see where some people may question the advice he's giving along with his motives for giving it.

his tweet was basically exactly what you're supposed to say as a politician you fucking retard. You tell people to keep calm and listen to the authorities.

You don't just tell people to keep calm and listen to authorities, you try to help them be as safe as possible. Given what we knew about the storm two days before (i.e. enough information for the Governor to suggest people leave) the Mayor of Houston is giving some pretty bad advice here.

I can understand not calling for a mandatory evacuation but to suggest that people "think twice" before leaving is pretty questionable. It seems pretty logical that you'd urge people to leave if they could.

Abbott urged citizens to evacuate from low-lying and coastal areas while there is still time.

This is not quite as clear-cut as "OMG EVERYONE OUT OF HOUSTON RIGHT NOW YOU'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!"

Houston is one of the largest cities in America, evacuating it would be a fucking nightmare and would probably cause more deaths than the storm.

Evacuating a city doesn't leader to murder and death in the streets. It isn't like leaving a riot in a stadium.

107/113 deaths in Texas from Hurricane Rita were associated with the evacuation of Houston

What the fuck happened to these people that they were killed? I've been in lots of traffic jams for literally hours and have never been murdered yet.

It was like 30 hours to drive to Dallas. People died of dehydration

Not taking bottled water in a fucking car before driving across a damn state. Humans are fucking retarded.

I mean normally it takes like 3 or 4 hours to drive from Houston to Dallas

Which, I understand, but think this through for more than five minutes. Will there be a traffic jam? Are you the only one that is thinking of taking the road today? Will stores be worried about catering to you during these hours?

This is like the most basic level of logic before taking off for another city in an evacuation. I prepare better than this shit on a drive to the shore.

How bad was the hurricane in your traffic jam?

Do you know how to English? I said I've prepared BETTER in simpler situations than people doing much worse situations where you would hope they would spend at least a couple seconds thinking things through.

Dying of dehydration in a day while driving from one first world city to another nearby first world city is fucking retarded.

Yeah, you didn't answer my question.

Any hurricanes I've driven through were pretty ok. Windows stayed up and no flying cars to ping pong off.

Because when you have 3 million people trying to leave a city at the same time in a panic, essential supplies tend to be limited. But go ahead and larp more in your bunker as you mock the dead.

Hurricanes don't appear from thin air. They literally form in the middle of the fucking ocean and people know about them well ahead of time and they are tracked the whole time. I'm not talking supplies for a nuclear winter. I'm talking having some bottles of water.

Dude this hurricane really did come out of nowhere. On Tuesday it was a tropical depression. On Wednesday it was still only a cat 1.

Where the fuck do you think you are by the way?

Don't pretend you weren't serious.

They literally form in the middle of the fucking ocean and people know about them well ahead of time and they are tracked the whole time.

I flew out of Houston Wednesday afternoon. The first warnings came about two hours before my flight. The next day the hurricane hit. There was no "well ahead of time" for this.

Fair enough you have a good point there. I was only talking about having some water laying around before jumping in the car though.

I'd be less worried about getting dehydrated and more worried about the gale force winds flinging the econobox in the next lane onto my passenger side window.

That sounds crazy if no one actually was really dying from drowning and just from traveling.

Oh, I doubt that was the case. I was just being dramatic. IIRC it takes someone around 3 days to die from dehydration. If people were at risk of that while on the road then that would probably be due to being stranded on the roads, which would be highly likely if Houston were to try to evacuate everyone within a 24 hour period.

Ah fair enough. I'm glad I don't have to deal with that shit. Fuck dealing with hurricanes on the regular especially if it is an area that can flood.

Good to know you would have made it in a situation you were never in. Hey next maybe let everyone know how much better you would have handled Harvey.

yeah lets not evacuate a major city before a cat 4 hurricane hits it, thats worked out swell before :thinking:

Look at Hurricane Rita. Evacuating a city with 2 million people is worse than staying.

I don’t really think history or evidence is a useful guide here - the other guy’s unfounded speculation was pretty compelling.

thats if the hurricane whiffs like rita did to houston, but these 30 inches of rain stuff and the way houston is built causes it to flood pretty fucking badly, and you dont want people there for that.

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I live in Houston and as of an hour ago there's 5 confirmed deaths. Even if the evacuation was more organized than Rita's it still would likely have caused more deaths. Also a cat 4 hurricane didn't hit Houston it was cat 1 or a Tropical Storm by the time it reached here.

This thing isn't even close to over yet. Stay safe buddy

Oh for sure I'm just saying it's early to be calling the lack of evacuation a terrible decision. I've been lucky up to this point and while streets near me are flooded the street in front of my house is clear. Thanks for worrying about me!

Stay safe? You mean kys right? WHERE AM I

I mean the only family I have in Houston evacuated to college station last week but everyone's experiences differ. Some people like to be overly cautious.

Yeah there's nothing wrong with evacuating and the flooding is horrible, but the loss of life isn't bad yet so I'm not sure a mandatory or encouraged entire city evacuation would have been a good idea. Hope your family is safe and their home is still okay!

Yeah much better to have them on the flooded highways.

Especially on Houstons highways. Shits bad enough during weekdays, add panic and shit will be slower than reiman.

I know that you're from Louisiana and maybe can't wrap your mind around modern engineering, but Houston isn't nearly as bad off as New Orleans was.

New orleans is literally below sea level

houston is something like 50-75 ft above sea level but its drainage infrastructure is actually pretty inadequate in light of all the new construction, too much concrete,not enough drainage..

Ever since Tropical Storm Allison rained out the city and caused billions of dollars worth of damage, theres been a lot of improvements made to drainage in the city. Can't ever fix the problem completely but its a lot better than it was.

This flooding is actually worse than Allison. But not for all of the city.

but Houston isn't nearly as bad off as New Orleans was.

Entire freeways flooded to the top of the tallest traffic lights.

Thousands of homes flooded to the top, forcing everyone onto their roofs to survive.

Yeah, totally different...

Where are you seeing it's already thousands of people stranded on roofs?

He doesn't, he shitposts this mentally retarded drivel with reckless abandon across all of his hugbox subs.

This dude is sitting at home, shaking mad about damn, dirty liberals. Read his history, it's amazing petulant whining.

The poor thing

Don't blame him. This is what public education in Louisiana gets you.

While he is a raging dickbag, he isn't wrong that there are a shit ton of water rescues going on.

For sure. But it's Houston. We're evolutionarily compelled to drive our cars through water.

Or just directly into it

As is tradition.

Whataburger, swangas, Fuck Dallas

Put some floaties on those sea gas and you have an escape raft.

Entire freeways flooded to the top of the tallest traffic lights.

Which is why am evacuagion would have been catastrophic you fucking mong.

Entire freeways flooded to the top of the tallest traffic lights.

That happens every rainstorm in H-town.

Mate, have you ever experienced Houston traffic? It's worse than New York. Moving the entire Houston populous out of Houston is a manmade disaster in itself.

The flooding makes the Texas off-ramp unusable as well.

It actually didn't, the Rita evacuation was a complete disaster and more people died there than in the hurricane

100 deaths in rita evacuation is lot less than the amount of people who died in new orleans during katrina.

This isn't Katrina, Houston isn't below sea level and isn't bearing the worst of the storm like NO was with Katrina. We are not at the "it's either hundreds or thousands die" stage.

When there are literally 3 evacuation routes for 6 million people and many of them lack transport, an evacuation order is useless.

100 deaths in rita evacuation is lot less than the amount of people who died in new orleans during katrina.

This isn't Katrina, fool. The situations are comparable only in that they both involve hurricanes.

It turned into a cat 4 hours before it hit you fucking idiot. On Wednesday it was t even a cat 3

It wasn't even a hurricane until Thursday afternoon

yeah lets not evacuate a major city before a cat 4 hurricane hits it, thats worked out swell before :thinking:

Harvey wasn't a cat 4 when it hit Houston lmao

Houston's major thoroughfairs are a parking lot on the best of days. If you think a last moment mass evacuation was possible then you're high.

They wanted to focus on coastal areas, the ones most at risk. Trying to evacuate everyone would have been an absolute shitshow.

That's why you don't make the evacuation mandatory, you just suggest people leave.

What you don't do is tell them to "think twice" about leaving, like the Mayor did.

At this point, when the storm has already arrived, you really should think twice before leaving.

If you leave during the storm and you get caught out by winds/flooding, the already overworked emergency services probably wont' get to you in time. You either evac before the storm arrives or you stay put and ride it out.

At this point, when the storm has already arrived, you really should think twice before leaving.

I think the tweet in question is from Friday afternoon, before the storm arrived and the Governor was suggesting people leave 2 days before the storm.

f you leave during the storm and you get caught out by winds/flooding, the already overworked emergency services probably wont' get to you in time. You either evac before the storm arrives or you stay put and ride it out.

Agreed.

By friday afternoon though, theres no way the city would be able to evacuate, Houston traffic is horrible at the best of times. If people began leaving en masse by then theres no way they would get out before the storm hit.

At this point, when the storm has already arrived

His original Tweet was long before the storm arrived, when everyone who was in a position of authority was telling everyone they should evacuate.

Not to mention since this guy decided to start desperately Tweeting for everyone to evacuate after the hurricane hit. Making any defense of him "trying to prevent issues with evacuation" redundant.

I see that you're an avid /r/the_donald poster, and since I don't know how to simplify my points to your level I'll just say have a good first day of school tomorrow.

I used to work security dispatch for a company. One of our clients in Houston had a hold-up alarm come in repeatedly, like half a dozen times in several different times. I think I waited around 20 minutes of holding during the first try and hung up, cursing in frustration. After waiting another 20 mins after a final attempt, I had to contact Houston Fire / Emt. It was the most absurd interaction I had to take part of, I felt like a hour of my life was gone and I was somehow worse for it, nevermind never knowing what really went on.

This was on a 'normal' day; Houston is fucked.

/u/NotAllMenAreLikeThat you are a goddamn retard that is too much of a coward to comment anything on all of your autistic spam

If anyone took part in the evacuation from Hurricane Rita, you'd fucking know that more people are going to dying of dehydration in the proceeding clusterfuck of traffic than are going to die from drowning or being hit by debris.

OP, as much as like to agree with you here politically, I just can't. Besides the safety points others in this thread have pointed out, not everyone has the funds to just pack up and leave. I think he should have recommended that those who could do so as it would ease the burden on emergency services, but we're well past that point.

Can we at least wait until the water is receding before we start slinging blame for political points?

not everyone has the funds to just pack up and leave

Sounds like Darwinism

Yes, we should just exterminate everyone that doesn't have 2-3 hundred dollars to spare at all times. Why haven't we thought of this sooner?

Just exterminate all those who don't learn from Dave Ramsey tbh

So, just exterminate the poor people that aren't actually dumb enough to waste money on books by a guy that makes money by selling poor people books on how to make money?

I guess I can live with that.

Man dispenses financial advice on the radio for free. Lesson #1? Immediate emergency fund. This isn't Europe; we expect people to fend for themselves here, and especially in TX

I don't disagree with "Lesson #1" in the slightest, but... what if just a few days before the storm, they had to spend that fund getting their trailer leveled and a discount abortion? So they should have two emergency funds? Then, what if their trailer burned down while being leveled? Do they really need 3 funds? What if while the fire marshall is investigating the fire, he finds the meth lab that started the fire and the fetus? Now they need a forth fund for bail, a fifth for a lawyer, and a sixth for a new trailer? At what point does this become truly unfeasible?

...but nevermind that, the real question is, what the fuck is a "radio"?

Radios are talking furniture. The devil manufactured them to tell you children to have unnatural sex like mouth sex

Ok for everyone’s sake I hope no one is taking this advice seriously. People die all the time because they don’t want to leave for whatever reason. If you are told to evacuate, please, fucking evacuate.

I suppose you're going to pay for everyone that can't afford to leave then? That is, assuming the mayor actually tells them to, which in case you missed the entire point of this post, he didn't.

I don't disagree, but reality is some couldn't afford to, even if told, which again, they weren't...

You clearly missed the fact that more died last time because the evacuation than the storm. In Katrina, they did evacuate, and those left where there because they had no means to leave.

Maybe save the pretentious fucking lecture for another sub where people actually want to hear opinions of those who think everything just magically happens and everyone a nest egg to spend at all times.

even for r/drama this is a truly retarded agendapost

lol, SRD is mad about this one.

However posted this is a retard that has no idea what it's like down here. In Rita the evacuation led to the deaths of almost 100 people due to dehydration and other shit. This time around not only would the highways have locked up again, but this time they would have flooded. Thousands would have died.

So why don't you take a flying leap and go fuck yourself. Signed, someone in Houston.

the real drama is the responses to this agendapost

What a coincidence...

Motherfucker, don't try to shove this facebook partisan shit into Houston. When Turner ran against Bill King, they were super friendly and couldn't even find things to disagree about.