/r/islam users outraged that Tunisia is treating women like human beings.

5  2017-08-30 by [deleted]

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You know what is sad? If the far-right parties in Western countries weren't anti-Islam or anti-refugee they'd have a large Muslim voter base.

I don't blame em

Lol

/u/pilotinspector85, How do you rationalize the differences between you're personal beliefs and the tenets set out in the religion you hold?

https://islamqa.info/en/12911

https://islamqa.info/en/21380

/unjerk

As someone who follows no religion and has read the Quran cover to cover (r/AsABlackMan lol) let me say a few things.

He called to reform the inheritance law and the law prohibiting women from marrying non-Muslim men.

Except inheritance law (half for daughters and whole for sons) is NOT part of Islamic Jurisprudence. It was never meant to be a LAW. Just like the government can't force you to pray 5 times a day or punish you for white lies similarly these inheritance "laws" were merely advised. More on why it's biased against women late in this comment.

prohibiting women from marrying non-Muslim men.

WRONG! It's not part of Sharia i.e Islamic Jurisprudence. Just like things like praying and fasting. None of them are legally enforceable.

The laws regarding women’s status in Islamic states, which are derived from religious Islamic (sharia) law, blatantly discriminate against women.

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The law forbids polygamy and allows a woman to divorce her spouse, just as a man can.

Woman CAN already divorce men but they have to go to courts. For men, it's simple the act of saying "divorce 3 times" (while sober and not in extreme anger). Now the thing is that the marriage is broken IN THE EYES OF GOD and legally but if you don't tell anybody, nobody will ever know hence the (((Govt))) will think you're still married. Do i agree with this? No.

As for polygamy it's something that can be used for evil and good. See in the Quran it says that if you can treat multiple wives with JUSTICE then you're allowed to marry up to 4 women.

Now the thing about justice is that it's ABSOLUTE. It's not quantized. It means EQUAL amounts of attention, sex, gifts, kisses, hugs, compliments etc.

In short, it's humanly impossible to fulfill this requirement. Then why the permission in the first place? What's going on here my dude?

Well let's take a step back and understand that there's a concept of "mehram/na (non) mehram". Mehram is someone for which there's no reason to wear the hijab (for women covering their hair, bosom, private parts, arms and legs but NOT the face and for men it's covering body from the navel to the lower end of your knee cap). For "na mehram", you wear the hijab.

Ok so the thing is that back in good old days of 600-700AD Arabia. Almost all women were totally dependent on men for providing them with financial support etc. (Muhammad's first wife was a successful business woman)

Wars were waged and women became widows. There was a stigma attached to the title of widows. So because of this, God allowed men to marry women FOR THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF SUPORRTING HELPESS WOMEN like widows/divorced women.

In the west, a brother can taken of his dead brother's wife financially without marrying here because there's no concept of "mehram na mehram". But because of it existing in Islam, it's much more preferable to simply the marry the widow/divorcee.

Also in Islam (I'm not sure) for a normal marriage, a healthy sex life is encouraged and some even argue that longer than 6 months of a "dead bedroom" situation (excluding voluntary withdrawal) due to arguments can lead to the legal marriage bond between them (called Nikah) to be invalid. They're not divorced per say but an imam must perform it again (excluding the legal paperwork).

^ Take this one with a HUGE ASS grain of salt but the point was that when you marry someone for the sole reason of helping them and their children financially etc, the normal rules and requirements of marriage don't apply. You can't pressure such a wife for sex and she can rightly deny it.

Remember the pedo warlord Muhammad? His 11/13 wives? Damn! Right? Well see the detail that people deliberately leave out is that except for only Ayesha, all of his wives were either widows/divorcees. (Mainly undesirable women of higher ages)

But wait there's more! See Muhammad only had 7 children. His 3 sons died young. Those 7 children were from only 2 wives!!! And we can all agree that there was no birth control back then so it's fair to assume there was no sex with them as you can see from the nature of the marriage. Also he married women form different tribes and families for the sole reason of extending better political relations among them.

The Children of Muhammad includ three sons and four daughters born to the Islamic Prophet Muhammad.All were born to Muhammad's first wife Khadija bint Khuwaylid except one son, who was born to Maria al-Qibtiyya. fact that onl two of his thirteen wive bore him children has been described as "curious" by Cornell University Professor of Near Eastern Studies David S. Powers.

The Islam that we see today is a bastardized version because of more than a 1000 years of manipulation by "IMAMS". Need some sort of proof of the disregard to actually VERY BASICL Islamic followings?

The 2nd caliph Umar Ibn Khittab was elected by different elders of tribes. Also when he took the title of Caliph, even though he was from middle class and was a small business owner, he was required to leave that PERMANENTLY because of A CONFLICT OF INTEREST (cough trump cough) and instead take a monthly salary from "Bait Ul Maal".

This means according to Islamic Jurisprudence (Sharia), the president must be elected democratically and must not be a business man/woman (must leave it).

Saudi Arabia is the bastion of Islam™ right? Then what's up with that monarchy? "KINGDOM" of SA? "KING" Abullah? HAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAA FUCKING HYPOCRITES? RIGHT?

Pakistan claims itself to be the only Islamic country to be made for the purpose of prosperity of Islam and a pure land for Muslims (pak=pure istan=land of people). Well heard of their now removed Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif? He's a fucking billionaire and a business tycoon. Hypocrisy much Pakistan?

When you don't even follow THE BASIC shit in Islamic Jurisprudence then how can you expect them to be honest in their other interpretations of Quran and its implementation as the law of land.

Pick any Quran and read 4:34 it will be translated as "hit her/your wife". Well see the thing is that that translation is one of the most intellectually dishonest shit I've ever seen! See this (especially the first one) http://www.quran434.com/wife-beating-islam.html http://www.cie.ugent.be/bogaert/bogaert4.html

Kill apostates? No where in the Quran does it say that. Plus it contradicts Quranic teachings itself

‘If a dhimmi (non-Muslim) insults the Holy Prophet, he will not be killed as punishment. A non-Muslim is not killed for his kufr (denying the Prophet) or shirk (polytheistic beliefs). Kufr/Shirk are bigger sins then sabb e rasool (Therefore non-Muslims will not be killed for sabb e rasool.)’ [Al Saif al Maslool]

Further, Abu al-Husayn Ahmad al-Quduri:

‘Non-Muslims insult Allah and say that He has a son and the Zoroastrians say He has an “opposite.” This does not break their covenant of security, therefore the same applies to insult of the prophet PBUH.’ [Al-Tajrid]

Ali ibn Abi Bakr al-Marghinani in Al Hidaya (which is taught all over Pakistan in Hanafi seminaries) states:

‘Insulting the prophet is kufr/disbelief. Since the non-Muslims are not killed for their disbelief, they will not be killed for any addition in their disbelief.’ [Al-Hidaya]

Ayesha was 6-9-12 when she was married right? That's a historical fact right? Well things don't really match up btw https://www.dawn.com/news/696084 (Pakistani guy wrote it. Something something irony)

Lastly, Y'all have heard of sects in Islam right? SUNNI SHIA WAHABI? etc

Well these Muslims forgot to read their own Quran lol

(Quran 6:159)

Sahih International: Indeed, those who have divided their religion and become sects - you, [O Muhammad], are not [associated] with them in anything. Their affair is only [left] to Allah ; then He will inform them about what they used to do.

/rejerk

Muhammad was a pedo warlord cuck lmao what kind of a barbarian would ever worship a pedo.

TEAM JESUS FTW!!!