TrollXer posts comic about men being shamed for their feelings and toxic masculinity. User casually mentions that there are several male tears jokes on TrollX every day. Members of the board begin literally shaking, crying, and shrieking over the mansplainer's presence.
176 2017-09-02 by Rubitinwhydontyou
210 comments
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1 Ultrashitpost 2017-09-02
lol, you actually believe that, /u/spicyricin? TrollX is filled with bitter, fat, ugly man-haters.
1 Kekistanian9000 2017-09-02
Yeah, /u/spicyricin just like "niggers" is not referring to "all african americans", it's referring to "bad black people that do fucked up shit for some reasons".
1 xKillerDreag 2017-09-02
Only fat white women are allowed to rant online.
1 Kekistanian9000 2017-09-02
Wtf I am a fat woman now.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
Of course it isn't because TECHNICALLY this term was intended to be used to laugh at ACTUAL misogynists and not people on the Internet you disagree with who also happen to have penises and testicles between their legs.
The problem is that when you use this "meme" to bring down men innocent of misogyny. Men who you simply disagree with.
Ugh i feel retarded to even explain this. Being intellectually disingenuous in an argument is not a gender specific trait. Dicks and cunts both are guilty of doing this.
YOU GUYS MADE ME SERIOUS POST INSTEAD OF BEING THAT WEIRD AUTISTIC GUY WHO POSTS COPY PASTA ALL DAY! FUCK YOU ALL!
P.S: That comic is really good. I really like it. Fite me ( ._.)/
1 nmx179 2017-09-02
That comic is shit and you are shit.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
No u!
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
u/spicyricin
Fuck you (and anybody) who straw mans like that. He's not complaining about THE MEME. He's complaining about it being used by MISANDRISTS in r/TrollX. Do you deny the existence of misandrists in your sub?
Don't you feel ashamed when you look in the mirror? Being that disingenuous reinforced by biased upvotes from the same people as you but who can't word their comment the way you did?
Yeah good luck because WILL ALWAYS CALL YOU OUT ON DISINGENUOUS SHIT so then don't cry about "muh soggy knees" then. I'm pretty sure women will call you out too and then you'll cry "internalized misogyny".
1 Rubitinwhydontyou 2017-09-02
You're mansplaining and gaslighting. The door is over there. Get out if you don't like it.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
I will gladly commit sudoku senpai.
1 ieatpussy69 2017-09-02
I still see you as weird and autistic fwiw
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
Well hello there handsome ;)
1 Notthehalf 2017-09-02
The comic begins well and ends well but the whole middle is garbage. It's nothing to do with masculinity that made him quit cooking (ffs the top level cooks almost all male, if kids telling you to make a sandwich hurts then you don't belong in a kitchen)
And even the blaming keeping quiet on mental health issues (Which is a vastly different thing to struggling) on masculinity is an entirely toxic thing of itself, something basic cunts like /u/spicyricin will never understand and should fuck off out of activism because their basic soundbite culture is doing far more harm then good.
And even down to the definition, the flaw lies in calling anything bad that isn't a gendered phenomenon as "toxic masculinity" so his justification for it not attacking masculinity defeats itself entirely.
To quote a wise boy (wiser then basic butch feminists on troll x will ever be) "you are over simplifying a complex issue".
TL;DR: the ending is a nice message but the workings out on how to get that result are flawed from the ground up.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
Your idea and my idea of masculinity CAN be different. Vastly different. It varies from society to society and culture to culture.
Expecting mothers as being automatically better parent and can also supplement the lack of a father figure is "toxic" (you can use another word) societal idea regarding femininity.
Expecting men to not defend (even complain) themselves against physically abusive spouses because "YOU'RE A MAN! SUCK IT UP! MAN UP" is a toxic societal ideal which has been made part of "masculinity".
Am i wrong here? Is it not true? Is it only what i think?
1 Notthehalf 2017-09-02
You are almost there, egde a little more for the climax.
While you do let me tell you a story.
When I declared I wanted to go to a liberal arts school for a degree it was my mother who spent months trying to stop it, convince me out of it, to the point our relationship had become so toxic I had to move out. My mother wanted to have a "stable job and income" and ignored my then obviously failing mental health, being so unhappy in the school I was in at the time, doing art was the only thing that helped, while on the course, I speciallised in Textiles, not once did I feel shamed by the male staff or other male students in other specialicities, the girls, even the ones within the textile course though questioned it all the time. Roll on a few more years, I have a friend, who was telling me about why she started art so late in her career, because he father wanted her to go into buisness management for the sake of money...and she attributed that to "masculinity" having that negative impact on her life. Neither experience cancels out the other but note the difference, In spite of being mocked by peers and feeling depressed and even having strain on my relationship with my mother, I made the choice to do what I wanted, so whats that, femininity at work (And even as a raging homo, when I come out, as I so often need to, people will often reply "you don't act it").
Again incredibly complex issues cannot be condensed into this soundbite culture, thats the most toxic thing in society right now, just look at the communities that use it so heavily, TrollX Ghazi KiA TD it's all utterly toxic, it is poisoning the well of these issues and making it harder every day to have a real conversation about them.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
In the comic, it says something about narrow things regarding these ideals and that seems to be the problem. It isn't black and white. Not following a masculine ideal? Surely you must be then following a feminine one!
This shouldn't be the case. The concepts have to broad and certain things should be ideals for all individuals. You doing what you like because you consider your well being an important priority IS AN EXCELLENT IDEAL that shouldn't be gendered.
You're right about the sound bite part. Someone else here also complained about it being a bad term. Maybe there's room for improving the term or out right changing it. But shit people will always twist and turn good stuff. Nothing can't be bullet proof imo. I'm not denying room for improvement btw.
The best part is awareness. Being vocal. Ideas are liked viruses. You'll have to quick to infect others with the one your believe in order to have the upper hand. In the past your "loudness" depended upon the number of individuals but nowadays any retard can have the same effect a 100s of them in the past thanks to the Internet and social media.
I'm studying medicine so tbh i can't relate you in a similar way so i can't comment on that in a proper way but what you said isn't wrong.
1 Raving_Dave 2017-09-02
Anyone who talks about masculinity or femininity is an automatic retard TBH.
1 jaredschaffer27 2017-09-02
Dude, just put like 4 party parrots at the bottom of your seriouspost and you're fine.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
Rookie mistake! ugh, where were you when i was making an ass of myself? :(
1 ihavebigBob 2017-09-02
Now bend over and receive my plastic penis and feminine supremacy .
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
Nice try bob!
1 ThatDamnedImp 2017-09-02
More lies. It's shocking that feminists flood upvote this shit when it makes them sound completely fucking retarded.
Somehow, 'Guys, it's just a joke!' never seems to fly for anyone but leftists.
1 killmen2017 2017-09-02
Friendly reminder that feminism is good for society and to watch out for all the male redditors with toxic masculinity problems!
1 zahlman 2017-09-02
jfc even I'm not baited that easily, and being easily baited is like half my schtick here.
1 nanonan 2017-09-02
It's not about tearing men down silly, it's about empowering everyone! That's why it's so funny when those male bigots are upset that we are destroying their privilege.
1 Raving_Dave 2017-09-02
This but ironically
1 RedditNewsThrowaway 2017-09-02
We are all fat white women on this blessed day.
1 -deebrie- 2017-09-02
Speak for yourself
1 Atimo3 2017-09-02
I am all fat white women on this blessed day.
1 telandrias 2017-09-02
Thanks, Amy "wtf how are n****ers making more money than me" shumer.
1 ligga4nife 2017-09-02
naggers?
1 O_Y_L_E 2017-09-02
nibblers
1 telandrias 2017-09-02
I think the lolcow is the one doing the nagging though.
1 Aimless_Drifter 2017-09-02
nifflers
1 Jukk 2017-09-02
Nuggers of course
1 All_of_Midas_Silver 2017-09-02
Hey man, there's white niggers.
Just look at the irish
1 nanonan 2017-09-02
It's the melanin in the freckles that does it.
1 ThatDamnedImp 2017-09-02
Of course they don't believe it. It's one of many lines femnists use to try to convince people that it's okay for them to act like complete jack-asses.
The big question is: why the fuck does anyone let them get away with it?
1 youcanteatbullets 2017-09-02
Well this thread is full of people REEEEE-ing over it, so whether they "get away with it" is debatable.
1 Raving_Dave 2017-09-02
Doing God's work.
1 moush 2017-09-02
Most people have more important things to worry about than some whining losers.
1 XhotwheelsloverX 2017-09-02
Traslated.
1 boyoyoyoyong 2017-09-02
u/spicyricin talking about male privilege while being that most privileged group in human history
1 carkidd3242 2017-09-02
really makes you think
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
Toxic masculinity exists. Toxic femininity exists. EVIL SHIT EXISTS. Are you really that ignorant? The only reason the former is more harmful because MEN HAVE BEEN IN POWER for the entire human history. Male sex has mostly dominated the social and financial power market hence the more potential to cause damage if shit does wrong.
Western civilization didn't get here due to dicks and cunts. It got here because of GOOD PEOPLE. People who found no shame in accepting their mistakes and learning from the past. Pride gets in the way of that.
Her straw manning in assuming that OP cried about the meme being misandrist is the problem here. Address that.
1 boyoyoyoyong 2017-09-02
Jesus you sound like a faggot. Those male traits got us out of caves, kept us alive and had gotten humanity to where it is.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
OMG EPIC WIN phOWNED.com LE REKT XDXDDDDDD
1 Rubitinwhydontyou 2017-09-02
OK are you are either a great troll or a real fucking basket case.
Either way, you single?
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
I really want to tell you what I'm actually doing but shit...then you know ;)
Baby I'm all yours 😘 you in da mood for some fucky fucky OP?
1 UniversityDaniel 2017-09-02
So your username is based off of Ed, Edd n Eddy when Ed says "I like chickens and buttered toast", right?
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
I "really" like that cartoon. I mean shit, I'd sneak at 3-4am for a repeat watch sometimes because it was fun. Cartoon Network was a really good part of my childhood.
Also i'm not good at usernames so that was the first thing that popped into my head.
It was either that or u/PMME_YOUR_BUSSY or u/IEATASSLMAO soooo ¯\(ツ) _/¯
1 ay_what_up 2017-09-02
are you on adderal or something
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
Lol
1 holy_black_on_a_popo 2017-09-02
He is fucking loved.
1 boyoyoyoyong 2017-09-02
You literally complained about toxic masculinity like that's a real thing. You sure you don't belong in subreddit drama or trollx. They do seem to be more your speed as they seem to be fans of the idea that being a man is toxic, ignoring the fact these traits are probably responsible for where we are today. Let's face it if toxic masculinity was bad it wouldn't have been bred out.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
https://i.imgur.com/BAaUEeW.jpg
First panel of the comic
https://i.imgur.com/MM2qzND.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FdV7aao.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YR7hb26.gifv
Last panel
https://i.imgur.com/nLaaNwH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OznJngj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/K6lJxRc.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jTS4iKr.gifv
NICE TRY KIDDO!
I have very few barely working brain cells. I'll spare them the extra autism.
1 boyoyoyoyong 2017-09-02
How are you even able to get on the internet. I'm impressed as people with your level of retardation can't even clean themselves let alone operate a computer
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
Hahahaha please cry me a river. It's not my fault you resort to straw mans and then whine about being called out.
Say it with me faggot (ooh! nice)
WHINY
LITTLE
BITCH
:D
1 boyoyoyoyong 2017-09-02
I'm glad you're able to bold letters,that's very impressive for a retard. What else can you do, the world wants to know.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
https://i.imgur.com/w4dFXp7.jpg
I'm a very smart individual! Jealous much hater? ;)
1 boyoyoyoyong 2017-09-02
I'm glad that we've gotten to a point in western society that even retards can have high self esteem
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
"And kids it all started with a disgusting mansplaining manspreading MAN that stepped out of the cave for the first time!"
Imagine if books actually were like that lol.
1 nmx179 2017-09-02
Except that's a load of bullshit, "toxic masculinity" is absolutely used to mean that being a man is toxic.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
Except that's a load of bullshit, "toxic masculinity" is absolutely and frequently used to mean that being a man is toxic.
Umm yeah but frequently used by.....? Go on! Tell me. Show me one non retard who actually spouts that. The stage is yours.
Frequency by autists doesn't discredit the actual term. Who the fuck cares what they say. And it's not just masculinity. It's feminity too. Do you think ideals attached to both genders are perfect? Don't you think shit ideals and ideas and expectations from men and women don't exist?
Using autistic people as examples won't do shit for your argument.
Where have I said that a certain "feminist's" is right about her point about one specific "masculine" trait imposed by society being toxic? Do you see me agreeing with the people you claim to "frequently" claim shit?
1 nmx179 2017-09-02
I mean it's pretty obvious that even if I bothered to find an example of someone doing this you'd just declare them a retard. I'm not really interested in watching you play "no true feminist".
Instead of that, I'll say that if the way "toxic masculinity" is commonly used is such a misuse, why can't social scientists come up with a better term that isn't so easily abused to say or imply that masculinity is toxic? Why is it so important to them to connect masculinity with toxicity?
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
Nah nah nah my dude. I'm not going to do that. You said "frequently". So what? Surely a vocal MINORITY doesn't get do define what things are right? But the problem can arise when shit is spouted "frequently" by rather sane people. By sane i mean who aren't disingenuous, have intellectually honest views generally other societal issues but honestly believe in the shit that you claim some group of an unknown size (your comment doesn't state that) spouts frequently!
It's like asking for examples of non retarded people believing that climate change isn't real.
I need to know what people bother you? Is it only the tumblr/TrollX types with no actually credibility on anything?
Also you're complaining about a term being misused? Sure a term can be worded better but still it don't guarantee from people misusing it to suit their agenda.
You'll have to discredit their claims with more course speech. That's more effective.
1 nmx179 2017-09-02
There's a wide difference between "no guarantee it won't be misused" and "guaranteed it will be frequently misused", and "toxic masculinity" is overwhelmingly the latter.
Yes, counter speech like saying that "toxic masculinity" is a stupid term that by design is easy to abuse, and should be discarded in favor of something better and less hostile towards men.
1 Lumene 2017-09-02
Shit, I can come up with a term now that's unisex.
Unhealthy Gender Expectations.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
Hey that's pretty gooooood.
1 zahlman 2017-09-02
The same reason that gender roles are blamed on "patriarchy", that "feminism" is the morally virtuous and acceptable framework for discussing the issue, and that women who dissent are self-victimizing via "internalized misogyny".
1 ______________pewpew 2017-09-02
Why do you hate being a man?
1 nmx179 2017-09-02
Because this masculine body prevents me from expressing my true identity as an apache attack helicopter, obviously
1 ______________pewpew 2017-09-02
With all due respect gentlesir, but you are a retard. Do you even understand what the expression means?
1 Stinkfished 2017-09-02
Triggered nigger.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
I said "nigga" so you assumed i'm black? Dude wtf lmaooooo :p
1 Stinkfished 2017-09-02
A nigger obsessed with unfunny children's cartoons and le epic humor.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
Oh man your comment hit me where it really hurts! How will i ever recover from this?
1 FuckingWrites 2017-09-02
Lol such a snowflake that you're scared of people who aren't white. Bitch ass.
1 Stinkfished 2017-09-02
Did I say anything and chinks or sand niggers you stupid nigger?
1 FreemanPontifex 2017-09-02
I was with you until this.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
How can i make it up to you? I'm serious. 😔
1 CirqueDuFuder 2017-09-02
Go tell feminists about toxic femininity and tell me how receptive they are. Start in feminist spaces like SRD TrollX SRS Ghazi and Menslib.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
Annnnnd your point being? These are cancerous af/hypocritical subs. Do you think I DONT KNOW that. Many of them flat our lie so much it's disgusting tbh.
"Feminists"/"Meninists" lol
1 nmx179 2017-09-02
So where do the non-cancerous / non-hypocritical feminists hang out on the internet? Or do non-cancerous / non-hypocritical feminists lack the ability to operate a laptop or phone, the way all the cancerous and hypocritical feminists seem entirely capable of doing?
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
Why are you asking me? I know you're trying to make a point but state it flat out right now.
Those ones aren't very noticeable because they don't REEEEEEE that much over manspreading/mansplaining. You're in r/Drama. You're going to get drama from the stupid kind of "feminists" from tumblr and TrollX because YOU look into those places.
The world doesn't revolve around those cesspools or Reddit/Tumblr you know.
If being a feminist/Meninist means (it does linguistically) EQUAL/FAIR/JUST treatment then yeah sure I am one. But you won't see me actually contributing and campaigning for that because I AM A LAZY FUCK! I can barely get out bed in the morning my dude :(
1 Fucking_That_Chicken 2017-09-02
why are you assuming that non-cancerous people hang out on the internet?
have you been to the internet?
1 nmx179 2017-09-02
Because the alternative is that all the "non-cancerous" feminists have all chosen to let the cancerous feminists speak for them on the world's currently predominant communications medium. Which would make them just as cancerous as the non-cancerous feminists.
1 Fucking_That_Chicken 2017-09-02
there is, of course, option c: nobody is that invested in policing the thoughts of whiny children who complain on the internet all day, or spending all their time trying to clean up after them
the internet and the useless parts of academia are our society's outlets for our spoiled, inept upper-middle-class and rich kids. we used to give those people military commissions instead, so in a way it's like progress
i don't really have any personal knowledge of what the relative proportion of "non-cancerous" feminists is, but "people who have to spend all their time on the internet are the ones nobody else likes" doesn't really tell us anything new
1 nmx179 2017-09-02
Except that your option c is just my option b.
Because if the non-cancerous feminists can't be bothered to "police the thoughts of whiny children who complain on the internet all day", then they're choosing to let those "whiny children" speak on their behalf, on the world's predominant mass communications medium.
Then what the fuck is the point of your boring pablum?
1 Fucking_That_Chicken 2017-09-02
not particularly, and it's really pretty retarded to equate the two
but let's follow this line of reasoning a bit. say that there are 100,000 whiny teenagers of the "daddy won't let me go out until my homework's done, he's such a manspreader" sort of "feminist." we will say that they complain on the internet for eight hours a day, every day.
given those numbers, what number of "non-cancerous feminists," and what temporal investment from them, would be required to meet their apparent burden to go publically bitch and moan at teenagers -- at least to the point where they would not be "choosing to let those whiny children speak on their behalf?"
you're making stupid comments and their existence annoys me. worse, they're stupid comments of the "le internet is serious bizness" sort
1 nmx179 2017-09-02
Any such effort at all would be a good start.
And here you are, taking the time to disagree with them.
Exactly the way non-cancerous feminists would take the time to disagree with the cancerous feminists, if any such non-cancerous feminists existed.
1 killmen2017 2017-09-02
Friendly reminder that feminism is good for society and to watch out for all the male redditors with toxic masculinity problems!
1 Fucking_That_Chicken 2017-09-02
idk if this warrants a "good bot" since it's blatant and low-effort
/u/deepdickedhillybilly can you offer this person some advice
1 Fucking_That_Chicken 2017-09-02
eh, usually there's one or two people who do go over to bitch and moan at the teenagers every time they have a particularly big thread. occasionally they have some kind of explicit feminist angle (but the response, "jesus christ, what the fuck is wrong with you people" is likely to be similar regardless).
you can tell when this happens because the teenagers all mash the "make bad opinion go away" button and then complain about persecution if the person disagreeing with them stuck around for a while
can't say it appears particularly productive, but i guess if it's your thing, you can do you. not like this is particularly productive either
1 killmen2017 2017-09-02
Friendly reminder that feminism is good for society and to watch out for all the male redditors with toxic masculinity problems!
1 JohnnyLargeCock 2017-09-02
/r/TheFemPill, arguably the best and most important feminist subreddit on reddit, is a space for empowering all types of women through positivity, and never about putting others down.
Most other feminist subreddits are incomplete knock-offs, and it clearly shows.
So, you just have to be looking in the right places.
1 nmx179 2017-09-02
You're right, I did forget momentarily about the only good feminist subredddit on the internet
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFemPill/comments/63afo7/hardworking_uber_driver_provides_5star_service/
This is the sort of feminism I think we can all get behind.
1 Vakieh 2017-09-02
The non-cancerous / non-hypocritical feminists are the people who just do certain shit when it needs doing, they don't feel the need to congregate in 'feminist' spaces or label themselves. They're actually the mainstream. The people the core group of 1st and 2nd wave feminism convinced.
Now we're up to what, 6th wave feminism? There's the core group, who are running around making groups and giving themselves grandiose doctrine based labels, and they're trying to convince the mainstream feminists, aka the majority of people. Personally I don't like their odds.
If you can answer the question 'do I believe that women are inferior to men' with a no, you are already a feminist.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2017-09-02
Because they spend 100% of their time pretending they are literal fucking heroes.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
I don't think they are heroes.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2017-09-02
Well my logic is cancerous sub gets mocked and you want to teach nuance on how they are actually right to the people laughing at them. Silly as fuck.
1 ______________pewpew 2017-09-02
Nice whataboutism. Are you a SRSer?
1 CirqueDuFuder 2017-09-02
Feminists tell me often they are the best advocates for men. I wanted their hot take.
Also I have been deep inside of SRS. Just ask many people here.
1 ______________pewpew 2017-09-02
I have to agree here.
1 diebrdie 2017-09-02
Feminists know what it is it's just not called that.
1 RedditNewsThrowaway 2017-09-02
Please no serious posting on r/drama
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
You never know. I might actually be a very dedicated troll with a lot of time and energy to spare ;)
1 nmx179 2017-09-02
Yeah what this sub needs is even more boring, repetitive shitposting.
za
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1 RedditNewsThrowaway 2017-09-02
Zozzle
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
WE DID IT REDDIT xDDDDDDD
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1 Raving_Dave 2017-09-02
Have you heard of a little thing called the Spartans?
1 HP_civ 2017-09-02
Yeah and where are they today ... or even when they got owned by the Thebans... who got owned by the Macedonians... who got owned by the Romans.... who got owned by the Ottomans... who got owned by the Russians.
1 Raving_Dave 2017-09-02
So basically you're saying women shouldn't be in power /s
1 ieatpussy69 2017-09-02
Western civ shits the bed
1 boyoyoyoyong 2017-09-02
No doubt letting women vote was a huge mistake
1 glmox 2017-09-02
ooh, so close, you almost have it. in actuality, letting people in general vote was a huge mistake.
1 NoRealsOnlyFeels 2017-09-02
If only communism succeeded. Everyone would be too busy standing in bread lines to shitpost on the internet that doesn't exist
1 Thulean-Dragon 2017-09-02
Neo-absolute monarchism when?
1 glmox 2017-09-02
this but unironically
1 wolfsktaag 2017-09-02
id have to check the dates, but right around the same time we gave women the vote, we had a) alcohol get banned, giving rise to massive organized crime and b) federal income tax came into existence, explosively growing the federal governments power
coincidence?
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
Checkmate Atheists! 😤
1 freet0 2017-09-02
you mean a place where r/trollxchromosomes exists?
1 CirqueDuFuder 2017-09-02
GOTTEM
1 ffbtaw 2017-09-02
MAYOCIDE NOW!!!
1 LemonScore 2017-09-02
1 Neon_needles 2017-09-02
The hypocrisy in this post is the stuff of legends.
1 nmx179 2017-09-02
u/hh893731 you are literally saying "look at that weak dude over there" you shameless bullshitter.
1 IThinkIThinkTooMuch 2017-09-02
You'd understand the post better if you weren't so easily triggered, I think.
1 nmx179 2017-09-02
>lol ur triggured
Dank meme, friendo
1 CirqueDuFuder 2017-09-02
UMADBRO?
1 IThinkIThinkTooMuch 2017-09-02
Not really, what's there to be mad about?
1 SineadObama 2017-09-02
it's time to cut down on the cake.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2017-09-02
I was mocking your comment.
1 IThinkIThinkTooMuch 2017-09-02
Ah, right. In that case, yeah, I'm pretty upset.
1 ZeitgeistNow 2017-09-02
The fact that you'll never find a healthy relationship?
1 IThinkIThinkTooMuch 2017-09-02
No, but not a bad guess.
1 MooseHeckler 2017-09-02
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k0SmqbBIpQ](Seriously? This is the kind of rhetoric that helped get Trump into the white house.
1 MooseHeckler 2017-09-02
ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k0SmqbBIpQ , though seriously this intellectual dodging of any responsibility for poor behavior is one of the reasons Trump is in the white house.
1 IThinkIThinkTooMuch 2017-09-02
I'm not sure where you're going with that, but I'd tend to agree.
1 MooseHeckler 2017-09-02
I am glad we do.
1 hh893731 2017-09-02
The analogy makes sense if you read the comic, because the main character in it is talking about his experiences with toxic masculinity throughout his life and how it stunted his growth as a human being. So the analogy to childhood makes sense. But you clearly didn't read the comic. I'm not willing to have discourse with someone who refuses to read the subject material and at least try to understand where it's coming from. As this discussion has devolved from an attempt at civil discourse, to all out name calling, I think I'll make my exit now.
1 nmx179 2017-09-02
"This discussion of my right to cry 'lol male tears' at men's problems has devolved into UNCIVIL DISCOURSE"
LM fucking AO, your bullshit is piled so high I can smell it through my monitor.
1 ZeitgeistNow 2017-09-02
Really disturbed by your cuntsplaining right now
1 HINDBRAIN 2017-09-02
Are you fucking tone policing us?
1 theycallmeryan 2017-09-02
Imagine using this term unironically
1 MRB2012 2017-09-02
Are you familiar with the Motte and Bailey argument?
Did you read Mein Kampf, or are you just assuming it's evil?
1 SkippyDippo 2017-09-02
What the fuck does that even mean?
1 ______________pewpew 2017-09-02
Are you dumb or something?
1 SkippyDippo 2017-09-02
Yes. Explain it.
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2017-09-02
Because as we know. Mean have to be subjugated in order for women to be equal in the eyes of society and law.
1 ______________pewpew 2017-09-02
For fucks sake
1 telandrias 2017-09-02
Men are unfairly allowed to sleep on the streets, while women are shamed into sleeping at shelters in the night on a comfy bed.
1 TNBK 2017-09-02
Males crying is only shameful when we disagree with them-strong allies of men everywhere
1 Rubitinwhydontyou 2017-09-02
It's not really that surprising. TrollX is a pro female-on-male rape board because to them, men have privilege and therefore it is OK for underprivileged women of size to do as they please to them.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
Bet then like Amy for her "joke" about that.
1 headasplodes 2017-09-02
/u/OptimalCynic please explain what sealioning is
1 OptimalCynic 2017-09-02
http://simplikation.com/why-sealioning-is-bad/
1 Ultrashitpost 2017-09-02
Yeah, it takes time to make an informed opinion, no shit.
1 xoiz 2017-09-02
Damn, I fucking hate when someone interrupts the circlejerk!
1 InspiringShitpost 2017-09-02
So evidence based judgement is sealioning and progressives are not fundamentally anti scientific? Well, fuck me.
1 ZeitgeistNow 2017-09-02
They've already bit that bullet when basic biology like the function of chromosomes and hormones became part of muh patriarchy
1 Patriarchy-4-Life 2017-09-02
'Biotruths'
1 headasplodes 2017-09-02
No tell me in your own words. I doubt you've even read what you just linked me.
1 OptimalCynic 2017-09-02
http://simplikation.com/why-sealioning-is-bad/
1 menvaren 2017-09-02
So you're not able to explain it in your own words.
1 zahlman 2017-09-02
So you're claiming to be the author of that article?
1 ZeitgeistNow 2017-09-02
Only feminists are retarded enough to label the call for proof as a bad thing
1 Rubitinwhydontyou 2017-09-02
1 nomad1c 2017-09-02
so basically when people call you out for generalising a gender or race or w/e, you just invent a word to call them the bad guy
1 CirqueDuFuder 2017-09-02
Anything that isn't sucking your dick and worshipping your every word is clearly a waste of time and toxic.
1 Sloppysloppyjoe 2017-09-02
I just bought a "women's tears" mug. Hope you're cool with the fact I thrive on women crying. Xoxo lylas
1 zahlman 2017-09-02
Often a fair assessment, but...
Lol, no. They are asked because - get this - the person asking disagrees with you, and is expecting you to engage in a discussion where you might possibly change your mind as well, at least theoretically.
If that causes a problem for you, what you're saying is that you feel like you're just plain right, that the matter is settled, and that you oughtn't have to justify yourself to anyone. Funny thing about that attitude, though - it has this strange habit of not convincing anyone who isn't already convinced.
No; they're greeted by people pointing out to you how your purported "evidence" doesn't actually establish what you want it to, and explaining why the answers to your questions are unsatisfactory.
Sorry about your chronic inability to admit fault.
I'm also sorry about your inability to remain calm when calmly asked rhetorical questions by someone who thinks you're full of shit. I guess Socrates was the ur-sealion, showing people the flaws in their reasoning simply by making them confront their own logical inconsistencies.
You should consider the possibility that the people asking the questions genuinely believe them to be different in salient ways.
But the people asking the questions aren't fighting any natural instinct to ask more clarifying questions in good faith when they repeatedly get answers that seem nonsensical or based in an incomprehensible worldview, right? They're just evil mustache-twirlers, obviously.
Have you ever wondered why it's only the tiny minority of people who agree with your ideology who ever seem to run into this sort of problem, or complain about it online? Has it ever occurred to you, for example, to attempt to "sealion" prominent alt-right people, and see how they react? Like, if this technique is so effective, and "there are no bad tactics, only bad targets", you'd think this would have been tried by now.
1 midairfistfight 2017-09-02
Hah. I need to remember this for later.
1 InspiringShitpost 2017-09-02
It's a cheap fucking tactic to not engage with valid criticism.
1 concup 2017-09-02
No that's called Tinder
1 InspiringShitpost 2017-09-02
Huh? How does this even make sense?
1 concup 2017-09-02
It doesn't make sense, minters make sense
1 InspiringShitpost 2017-09-02
Compelling! Now where do I get my free mints?
1 concup 2017-09-02
keep yourself safe
1 InspiringShitpost 2017-09-02
Sweet! Thanks.
1 ______________pewpew 2017-09-02
It's exactly what you are doing dumbass.
1 headasplodes 2017-09-02
So expecting someone to prove that they actually know what they're saying and aren't just regurgitating buzzwords is sealioning?
Yeah that sounds about right.
1 ZeitgeistNow 2017-09-02
Why are you afraid of facts? Is it because your life is built on a shallow facade?
1 ______________pewpew 2017-09-02
No, it's because I'm a woman, obviously.
1 mehforeverybody 2017-09-02
You know, I have thank those armchair "feminists" of trollx - they helped me value women in my country more by being whiners and professional victims.
Also, if trollx would be the mirror of what 20-30 year old american women are and I would have to live in the USA,I think that I would need to rethink the options of bisexuality; using only porn; or suicide.
So thanks, ya landwhales, REEEEE, get fat, and get diabetes sooner.
[ Sorry r/drama, gangsta rap made me do it].
1 menvaren 2017-09-02
It really isn't. It's a subset of really, really bitter, lonely women with severe social anxiety.
1 ______________pewpew 2017-09-02
I thought that was /r/drama
1 menvaren 2017-09-02
We're mostly just drunks, right?
1 ______________pewpew 2017-09-02
Boredfrustrateddrunkschildren1 menvaren 2017-09-02
Frustrated drunk children?
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-02
Count me the fuck in! Being an adult sucks ass.
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2017-09-02
Bored drunks actually.
1 MooseHeckler 2017-09-02
Ayy bby.
1 youcanteatbullets 2017-09-02
There are enough bitter lonely people to go around
1 buttsecksyermum 2017-09-02
/r/drama is faggots and autists. Almost women, but not quite.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2017-09-02
They consider eye contact like fucking assault.
1 ZeitgeistNow 2017-09-02
Literally the only thing I'm jealous of third world countries for is the fact that their women seem to have actual morals and values, by and large. Modern feminism is what happens when a cause outlives it's usefulness.
1 Ps_ILoveU 2017-09-02
I left America to experience an exciting new culture.
I stayed to get away from these people. lol
1 blastiff 2017-09-02
Oh, I get it now. You want men to show weakness but only when it's convenient and doesn't burden you. You want a man to cry when his dog dies but not more than once. Otherwise he's just a pussy.
1 Rampachs 2017-09-02
I think calling a man a pussy at anytime would fall under their definition of 'toxic masculinity'.
1 Notthehalf 2017-09-02
Dumb basic bitch feminist cunts (just the bad ones...wait that's all of them)
/u/msrhuby
1 RedditNewsThrowaway 2017-09-02
Still waiting for the day when trollX develops a bit of self-consciousness
1 Ace4929 2017-09-02
Keep waiting, the cognitive dissonance isnt the result of an actually consistant belief system so much as it is an ad hoc justificaltion for their irrational hated of men and anybody who challenges them
1 80BAIT08 2017-09-02
No man should cry in front of someone else ever.
1 lifesbrink 2017-09-02
1 glmox 2017-09-02
so many of the world's problems would be solved if people would just stop trying to justify their meanness and embrace it smh
of course that would also necessitate learning to take it as well as dish it out so it's probably too much to hope for
1 shitINtheCANDYdish 2017-09-02
My daily reminder that women's suffrage was a mistake.
1 extratooth 2017-09-02
You should never take women seriously, they lack the brain power to reason. They're like obnoxious little kids.
Repeal the 19th.
1 Thesixithoffoot 2017-09-02
What a bunch of fags
1 zahlman 2017-09-02
/u/MsRhuby
That is literally not why anyone complained, and literally none of the people you're talking about actually hate women.
You, however, hate men. And you should feel bad about that.
1 hexane360 2017-09-02
"Yeah, I totally think men should be able to share emotions I deem valid. I just don't think they have any"
1 Re_LE_Vant_UN 2017-09-02
Imagine being so fat that you subscribe trollXchromosomes.
1 MRB2012 2017-09-02
"Toxic masculinity" is the best example of the motte and bailey fallacy in human history.