People like /u/wormania have the wildest conspiracy theories for why there are websites and websites full of article after article about gamergate journalism shit.
Hundreds of thousands of people ranting about journalism was just a front for 4 or 5 people to send threats and harassment that nobody can even prove to exist.
Quinn's alleged infidelity to recruit a personal army of harrassers, an event having absolutely nothing to do with "ethics in games journalism"
EIGJ was bullshit created post factum
So the notion that the infidelity was with critics of her game was post factum bullshit, is that what's being said here?
It's pretty fucked up how both most mainstream articles and anti-GG spaces are so barren of inconvenient information (and filled with misinformation and distortions) that 3 years in people like /u/originalrhetoric don't know the most basic facts, despite how easy it is to find it carefully documented.
I mean, this didn't happen, the ex-boyfriend himself admitted this. No seriously, tell me what you you think was written.
Not only does he portray Zoe as a hero throughout, he capped it off with a quote about her desire to host her own game jam, the only journalist who decided that was worth including. She lauched the Rebel Jam website on the same day the article was published, soliciting donations that went to her personal Paypal, for an event that never happened. The day after the article was published, they went on their planned trip to Vegas together, during which Zoe claims they first slept together.
As far as I know Grayson has never even denied this, his excuse to Totilo (which Totilo accepted) was that since they didn't fuck until a few days after the article was published, they weren't in a "relationship" at the time, so even though they were at the very least friends before than and were doing stuff like planning trips to Vegas indicating their blatant personal conflict of interest, it's apparently fine with Kotaku.
Random entirely unrelated fact, Depression Quest was released and covered prior to Patreon existing. This doesn't impact your narrative at all, right?
Zoe had a Patreon before two of the articles where Grayson gave her coverage, including of course the GAME_JAM article. And Patreon is just one method to transform e-fame into money, the Rebel Jam scam launched the same fucking day was another. Not that it would be okay for Grayson to cover someone he was in a personal relationship with regardless.
One month later, 03/2013, Nathan coverers Game Jam.
A year and a half later, the original post by Eron is released. 08/14
This guy decided to get in arguments about the evil of GG without actually bothering to glance at the date on the article and believe his own eyes.
Wtf I hate shitposting now, this but unironically, Keep Yourself Safe, r/drama was a mistake, I'm only ironically being painfully unfunny, post bussy, etc.
It's not like I'm some kind of nerd who surveys the other comments before I leave one. If multiple people think the same thing perhaps it should tell you something?
If I had to sum it up I'd say it's a name that refers to people who believe journalism is corrupt. All that zoe quinn shit was never the main focus, but it was a major catalyst.
Liana Kerzner defined it as, "It's basically a consumer revolt because gamers have lost confidence that the journalists that represent their community embrace their community
Zoe Quinn just came out with a book. She'll be on an NPR distributed radio show tomorrow. Calling it right now. Major shit show in one of the gamer subs about her.
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1 SkippyDippo 2017-09-03
rapes woman
downloads child porn
Actually, it's about protecting women from Gamergate.
tips fedora
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-03
sploosh
1 bareballzthebitch 2017-09-03
History will show that there has now been more writing done on the topic of Gamergate than Watergate.
1 SkippyDippo 2017-09-03
People like /u/wormania have the wildest conspiracy theories for why there are websites and websites full of article after article about gamergate journalism shit.
Hundreds of thousands of people ranting about journalism was just a front for 4 or 5 people to send threats and harassment that nobody can even prove to exist.
It's the ravings of a fucking lunatic.
1 GaymasterNacelle 2017-09-03
So the notion that the infidelity was with critics of her game was post factum bullshit, is that what's being said here?
1 MegaSeedsInYourBum 2017-09-03
I have no doubt that this is true.
1 sodiummuffin 2017-09-03
It's pretty fucked up how both most mainstream articles and anti-GG spaces are so barren of inconvenient information (and filled with misinformation and distortions) that 3 years in people like /u/originalrhetoric don't know the most basic facts, despite how easy it is to find it carefully documented.
The Indie Game Reality TV Show That Went To Hell
Not only does he portray Zoe as a hero throughout, he capped it off with a quote about her desire to host her own game jam, the only journalist who decided that was worth including. She lauched the Rebel Jam website on the same day the article was published, soliciting donations that went to her personal Paypal, for an event that never happened. The day after the article was published, they went on their planned trip to Vegas together, during which Zoe claims they first slept together.
As far as I know Grayson has never even denied this, his excuse to Totilo (which Totilo accepted) was that since they didn't fuck until a few days after the article was published, they weren't in a "relationship" at the time, so even though they were at the very least friends before than and were doing stuff like planning trips to Vegas indicating their blatant personal conflict of interest, it's apparently fine with Kotaku.
Zoe had a Patreon before two of the articles where Grayson gave her coverage, including of course the GAME_JAM article. And Patreon is just one method to transform e-fame into money, the Rebel Jam scam launched the same fucking day was another. Not that it would be okay for Grayson to cover someone he was in a personal relationship with regardless.
This guy decided to get in arguments about the evil of GG without actually bothering to glance at the date on the article and believe his own eyes.
1 JohnTheOrc 2017-09-03
Holy shit. Kill yourself, dude
1 Atimo3 2017-09-03
Look, let's try to reach a rational compromise.
What if he doesn't kill himself but he unlocks his front door and you take him out in a murder suicide situation?
1 JohnTheOrc 2017-09-03
You mean I get to take out an effort poster AND shuffle off this mortal coil? You're a real pal, bro
1 deere442 2017-09-03
Just because you're some random faggot who's been here since the start of this autistic sub doesnt make you any less of a random faggot
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2017-09-03
Im not sure i value low effort shitposts more john. Which actively contributes to drama and which turned the sub into bussy/mayocide memeland?
1 JohnTheOrc 2017-09-03
Wtf I hate shitposting now, this but unironically, Keep Yourself Safe, r/drama was a mistake, I'm only ironically being painfully unfunny, post bussy, etc.
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2017-09-03
This but unironically.
1 aqouta 2017-09-03
I mean yeah, he should keep himself safe but if it was like a combination safety act between the two of you that would be best.
1 JohnTheOrc 2017-09-03
Basically the same gag as the other guy. Lame
1 aqouta 2017-09-03
It's not like I'm some kind of nerd who surveys the other comments before I leave one. If multiple people think the same thing perhaps it should tell you something?
1 JohnTheOrc 2017-09-03
That I should kms? I already knew that, you schmuck. I'm a r/drama regular.
1 aqouta 2017-09-03
People who frequent this sub should really be called irregulars tbqhwyfimiyptr
1 JohnTheOrc 2017-09-03
You made that acronym up. I bet you can't even tell me what it stands for.
1 aqouta 2017-09-03
To be quite honest with you fam, I mean if you're polling the room.
What are you, old?
1 eeso99 2017-09-03
the fuck?
1 JohnTheOrc 2017-09-03
How?
1 eeso99 2017-09-03
It's kind of like joking about autistic people. We all want to laugh and point, but we have to pretend to be sympathetic.
1 JohnTheOrc 2017-09-03
Tbh, I'm too buzzed to really get your point. If you're calling me autistic, that seems fair.
1 eeso99 2017-09-03
I think we're all autistic at this point for being regulars on drama.
1 DontTrustRedditors 2017-09-03
The last month has been nothing but high-effort SRS agenda posts. So nobody really holds to this rule anymore.
1 0987654231 2017-09-03
/u/originalrhetoric any comments?
1 OniTan 2017-09-03
/u/Psychotrip to get fully informed just Google "Zoe Quinn" and "Kiwi Farms" or Encyclopedia Dramatica".
1 DodgeIvan 2017-09-03
I still don't know what gamergate is
1 SpectroSpecter 2017-09-03
If I had to sum it up I'd say it's a name that refers to people who believe journalism is corrupt. All that zoe quinn shit was never the main focus, but it was a major catalyst.
1 Atimo3 2017-09-03
It's about ethics in autistic journalism
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2017-09-03
This but unironically.
1 heavenlytoaster 2017-09-03
Its about autism in journalism ethics.
1 LedinToke 2017-09-03
it's about ethics in the lowest form of journalism where the only people involved in it couldn't hack it in a real industry.
aka autism
1 OniTan 2017-09-03
One group thinks that video game journalists are writing positive things about games that are made by people they personally like.
The other group think those accusations are based on misogyny.
Most people think everyone involved are a bunch of idiots with too much time on their hands arguing about shit that doesn't matter.
1 ghostchamber 2017-09-03
It is basically the dumbest drama in the history of the Internet.
1 JohnTheOrc 2017-09-03
(https://duckduckgo.com/?q=duckduckgo&t=ffsb&ia=web)[Unfortunately, it isn't even the dumbest "feminists are invading our autism" drama with -gate tacked onto the end.]
1 dramallllama 2017-09-03
Liana Kerzner defined it as, "It's basically a consumer revolt because gamers have lost confidence that the journalists that represent their community embrace their community
1 DodgeIvan 2017-09-03
So journalists are just bribed by companies to give good reviews and tall good about the games? No shit
1 dramallllama 2017-09-03
Yes, but that is not what the quote is talking about. Read it again.
1 WithoutAComma 2017-09-03
That's because it doesn't matter either way and it's shameful to talk about irl
1 sodiummuffin 2017-09-03
http://deepfreeze.it/article.php
1 youcanteatbullets 2017-09-03
I would give up everything I own to trade places with you.
1 SpectroSpecter 2017-09-03
Did this actually happen or is this "the truth"?
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2017-09-03
Making things up is a pivotal argument tool.
1 TheHeroReditDeserves 2017-09-03
zoz
1 frozenflameinthewind 2017-09-03
Zoe Quinn just came out with a book. She'll be on an NPR distributed radio show tomorrow. Calling it right now. Major shit show in one of the gamer subs about her.