Muslim Chinese or Han Chinese, which is the more favored group? You decide.

12  2017-09-06 by Pepperglue

Muslim Chinese or Han Chinese, which is the more favored group? You decide.

A drama related to the Muslim population in China has broke out last weekend. Here is a short rundown of the event (in Chinese). Due to China's censor-happy habit, most stories on the internet are to be taken with a grain of salt.

Below is the translation of the whole story:

9/4/2017 8:25 PM

The Incident of Muslim population in Tangshan illegally riots and lay siege to the government of Kaiping District

On 9/2/2017, around 5:00 PM, Akhoond Yang Zhengfeng and two other people drove down China National Highway 205 westbound, towards Tangshan. At Kaping's Wali toll booth, the Akhoond attempted to pass through blocked lanes because there were too many cars there, and was stopped by the worker at the booth. Conflict insued and escalated into a fist fight. Akhoond was injured and hospitalized, and the worker was taken away by the police to make the report.

Yang Zhengfeng went on social media and called for support from other Muslims after being hospitalized. Hundreds of Muslims showed up at the toll booth and started "trampling" the toll booth. They also came to blow with the special unit came to control the situation. They yelled "kneel" and "apologize" to the unit, and the police force retreated.

Before noon, 9/3/2017

Hundreds of Muslims gathered and assaulted the Tangshan Kaiping district's government building without official permit. As the Akhoond's story spreads on social media, Muslims from Hebei, Shandong, etc. also travels to Tangshan to support the "protest movement."

To control the situation and speech, local propaganda department ordered the media to censor themselves on this incident. Phrases like "Tangshan toll booth" and "Tangshan Akhoond" were also blocked on Chinese social media.

Evening of the same day, some government officials and social officials somewhat expressed their thought on the matter. They stressed "this country is ruled by law, which will be carried out strictly. Nobody has the privilege to be above the law."

In the meantime. Although the mainstream media is silent on this incident, the violent incident of Tangshan Muslim is widespread on self media (like the "indepent news website" we see here), created a huge uproar. Threads about Weibo and mainstream all have a huge number of netizens criticizes the weak appearance of Tangshan government, and the violent action of the Muslim.

9/4/2017

From the Muslim Weishin group, Tangshan government, Akhoond Yang, and his supporters has reached a settlement. The city government will apoligize to the Akhoond and the Muslims, and pay 4 million RMB. The city also promised to use their fund to renovate the local mosque, and get a plot of land and pay for the new mosque.

Many netizens scoffed at it, said "on September the third, 2017 CE, the Tangshan government and the Muslims signed the first Unequal Treaty in the history of Modern China (they meant after 1949). Land will be ceded, money will be paid, to give the Muslims superior treatment and the status of Extraterritoriality. This unequal treaty signifies the damage of judicial sovereignty and equal rights of the citizens severely damaged in the Modern China, which is on its way of falling into Half-Islamic and Half-Socialistic Society."

This is a listing of the caps worn by the Chinese Muslims. This is obviously poking fun at the government, since the listing claims this can get you through toll way without paying for anything.

End of Story

From what I can gather, the parts that are undisputable is the part where the Akhoond got into the fight, the part where Muslims gathered in front of the government building and started shouting, and the apology part.

Such feeling of the government appearing weak towards threats from non-Han Chinese is not the first. There is a saying in the mainland called

一等洋人二等官，三等少民四等汉

Which means

First class goes to the foreigner (usually means White people); second class goes to official; third class goes to the minority group; and the fourth class is the Han-Chinese.

Believe it or not, the Chinese government had a lot of policies in terms of education, employment, and promotions. There are also financial aids specifically set for the minorities, and laws are even laxer on them.

So please use this post to shut up how other people claim China doesn't do whatever bullshit PC culture the United States does. They have their own.

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1  WikiTextBot 2017-09-06

Tangshan

Tangshan (Chinese: 唐山; pinyin: Tángshān) is a largely industrial prefecture-level city in northeastern Hebei province, China. It has become known for the 1976 Tangshan earthquake which measured 7.8 on the Richter scale, flattening much of the city and killing at least 255,000 residents according to official estimates. The city has since been rebuilt, has become a tourist attraction and has among the 10 largest ports in China.

The city of Tangshan is approximately 149 kilometers, 92 miles or 80 nautical miles east by south east of the country's capital city of Beijing.

Tangshan

Tangshan (Chinese: 唐山; pinyin: Tángshān) is a largely industrial prefecture-level city in northeastern Hebei province, China. It has become known for the 1976 Tangshan earthquake which measured 7.8 on the Richter scale, flattening much of the city and killing at least 255,000 residents according to official estimates. The city has since been rebuilt, has become a tourist attraction and has among the 10 largest ports in China.

The city of Tangshan is approximately 149 kilometers, 92 miles or 80 nautical miles east by south east of the country's capital city of Beijing.

Kaiping District

Kaiping District (simplified Chinese: 开平区; traditional Chinese: 開平區; pinyin: Kāipíng Qū) is a district of Tangshan, Hebei, China.

Kaiping District

Kaiping District (simplified Chinese: 开平区; traditional Chinese: 開平區; pinyin: Kāipíng Qū) is a district of Tangshan, Hebei, China.

Akhoond

An akhoond (akhund or akhwand) (Persian: آخوند‎‎) is a Persian title for an Islamic cleric, common in Iran, Azerbaijan and some parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan. The Standard Chinese word for imam (Chinese: 阿訇; pinyin: āhōng), used in particular by the Hui people, also derives from this term.

Other names for similar Muslim clerics include sheikh and mullah.

Akhoond

An akhoond (akhund or akhwand) (Persian: آخوند‎‎) is a Persian title for an Islamic cleric, common in Iran, Azerbaijan and some parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan. The Standard Chinese word for imam (Chinese: 阿訇; pinyin: āhōng), used in particular by the Hui people, also derives from this term.

Other names for similar Muslim clerics include sheikh and mullah.

Unequal treaty

Unequal treaty is the name given by the Chinese to a series of treaties signed with Western powers during the 19th and early 20th centuries by Qing dynasty China and late Tokugawa Japan after suffering military defeat by the foreign powers or when there was a threat of military action by those powers. The term is also applied to treaties imposed during the same time period on late Joseon Korea by the post-Meiji Restoration Empire of Japan.

Starting with the rise of nationalism and anti-imperialism in the 1920s, the Kuomintang and Chinese Communist Party used these concepts to characterize the Chinese experience in losses of sovereignty between roughly 1839 to 1949. The term "unequal treaty" became associated with the concept of China's "Century of Humiliation", especially the forced opening of the treaty ports, the imposition of European extraterritoriality on foreigners living in China, and loss of tariff autonomy.

Unequal treaty

Unequal treaty is the name given by the Chinese to a series of treaties signed with Western powers during the 19th and early 20th centuries by Qing dynasty China and late Tokugawa Japan after suffering military defeat by the foreign powers or when there was a threat of military action by those powers. The term is also applied to treaties imposed during the same time period on late Joseon Korea by the post-Meiji Restoration Empire of Japan.

Starting with the rise of nationalism and anti-imperialism in the 1920s, the Kuomintang and Chinese Communist Party used these concepts to characterize the Chinese experience in losses of sovereignty between roughly 1839 to 1949. The term "unequal treaty" became associated with the concept of China's "Century of Humiliation", especially the forced opening of the treaty ports, the imposition of European extraterritoriality on foreigners living in China, and loss of tariff autonomy.

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1  metric_robot 2017-09-06

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1  Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-06

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1  Dekkaz 2017-09-06

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1  kuro-no-shinigami 2017-09-06

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1  aliceunknown 2017-09-06

As a jew, I prefer the non-kebab variety of anything.

1  Pepperglue 2017-09-06

Too bad. Turkic people are all over Central Asia. Hard to get rid of them.

Those who tried to get rid of kebabs becomes a part of it.

1  LikeTotesObvi 2017-09-06

Hard to get rid of them

Have you tried burning them out?

1  aliceunknown 2017-09-06

Dare you to call an arab a turk. :3

1  Pepperglue 2017-09-06

Arabs failed miserably at getting rid of Turks, so they don't count.

1  HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-09-06

More flavored?

1  ManhattanTransFur 2017-09-06

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1  Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-06

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1  LikeTotesObvi 2017-09-06

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1  UpvoteIfYouDare 2017-09-06

Many netizens scoffed at it, said "on September the third, 2017 CE, the Tangshan government and the Muslims signed the first Unequal Treaty in the history of Modern China (they meant after 1949).

The nationwide inferiority complex that seems to grip China will never cease to amaze me.

1  Vlx372ghnKfmEZQT 2017-09-06

New Yuan when

1  flipkt 2017-09-06

From the Muslim Weishin group, Tangshan government, Akhoond Yang, and his supporters has reached a settlement. The city government will apoligize to the Akhoond and the Muslims, and pay 4 million RMB. The city also promised to use their fund to renovate the local mosque, and get a plot of land and pay for the new mosque.

lmao you actually believe this? I'm betting on tangching government giving protestors the beating they deserve till morale improved and things returning back to normal.

1  Pepperglue 2017-09-06

I don't know what to say. All the sources I checked points to the local government giving concession.

Believe it or not, sometimes the Chinese government will choose to appease them instead of beating the crap out of them.

1  Narrenschifff 2017-09-06

A new car driven by an ethnic minority leaves a toll booth without paying traveling at 60 mph. A clash between a local population and the central government ensues. Now, should we initiate an ethnic cleansing? Take the number of mobile execution vans in the field, A, multiply by the probable cost of police action, B, multiply by the average cost of international scandal on trade, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of an apology and payout, we don't do one.

1  wiktionnaire 2017-09-06

That's true.

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1  Psytric 2017-09-06

This part is great: "Hundreds of Muslims gathered and assaulted the Tangshan Kaiping district's government building without official permit."

"Excuse me, I'd like to apply for a permit to assault the district government building, please."

1  dazzazhonggua 2017-09-06

Yes yes yes. The Chinese government is so nice to Muslims. That's why Uighurs struggle to get passports and Xinjiang has police checks everywhere.

Fucking Han victims again... Are Han ever not the victims?

1  Pepperglue 2017-09-06

I don't exactly believe the Chinese government is giving them better treatment because they're Muslim, either. I am more inclined to believe it is just the local government bending over the pressure. There were a few stories like this where government had to back down because they couldn't contain the uproar.

1  dazzazhonggua 2017-09-06

What's more ridiculous is that, in a country (government) that vilifies Muslims, you really think this story is some kind of sensational leak.

It seems a little too good to be true... They censor as they please... It's a win for them.

1  Pepperglue 2017-09-06

They really need to open up their internet and let us see what kind of circus they are actually running in there.

Occasionally a good drama or two pops up on the Weibo sphere, then just disappears.

1  dazzazhonggua 2017-09-06

And perhaps one could just appear... That initially seems to be censored but breaks through the censorship to become a popular story...

Now, how did it overwhelm the previously wonderful censors... Interesting

1  Pepperglue 2017-09-06

I would guess that Chinese netizens are a very creative bunch, that they somehow found a way to get the words going before the censors catches up.

1  dazzazhonggua 2017-09-06

There was a video that set this ball rolling. Stop fucking around. You're looking for your narrative to hold up. It's working. Congratulations.

1  Pepperglue 2017-09-06

I have an agenda, not really a narrative here.

1  barrel9 2017-09-06

The Hui Muslims have self respect, good for them.

1  YangKai197 2017-09-06

The biggest problem I have is that the information you posted all would suggest that the government should not concede to them and would be justified in taking action. Yet, despite this report the government not only did that, it actively tried to remove information and block discussion on a topic that actually supported itself.

I do not believe for one second the government would start to censor and remove information about the event if it did not think it was in the wrong. Imo, the information we have about the event is probably missing a lot and I would refrain from making judgment. Likely they conceded to the minority for reasons we don't know.

1  YangKai197 2017-09-06

The biggest problem I have is that the information you posted all would suggest that the government should not concede to them and would be justified in taking action. Yet, despite this report the government not only did that, it actively tried to remove information and block discussion on a topic that actually supported itself.

I do not believe for one second the government would start to censor and remove information about the event if it did not think it was in the wrong. Imo, the information we have about the event is probably missing a lot and I would refrain from making judgment. Likely they conceded to the minority for reasons we don't know.

1  Pepperglue 2017-09-06

From what I know. The Chinese government likes to keep a lot of things hush-hush, but the social media doesn't.

My impressions is they are trying to keep everything stable before the big national meeting.

You are correct on us taking everything with a grain of salt before more information comes out, however.