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I find it hilarious that 'living according to eons of accumulated human wisdom' is such a hateful concept to some people. Almost as if some people are trash whose only hope is for a reversal of values.
The sexual freedom evidently enjoyed by the young in the big cities was a particular source of disapproval in the older generation. Here, too, there had been harbingers before the war. The rise of a large and vociferous feminist movement had accustomed the public and the press to women speaking out on all kinds of issues, occupying at least some positions of responsibility, and making their own way in the world. On ‘International Proletarian Women’s Day’, 8 March, the bigger cities saw annual demonstrations in the streets for women’s suffrage from 1910 onwards, with even middle-class feminists staging a procession, albeit in carriages, in 19 I 2. Alongside the eventually successful campaign for female suffrage came, if only from a minority of feminists, demands for sexual fulfilment, equal rights for unmarried mothers and the provision of free contraceptive advice. The ideas of Freud, with their tendency to ascribe sexual motives to human actions and desires, were already being discussed before the war.133 Berlin in particular, as it grew rapidly to the size and status of a cosmopolitan metropolis, had already become the centre for a variety of social and sexual subcultures, including a thriving gay and lesbian scene.
Critics linked these trends to what they saw as the looming decline of the family, caused principally by the growing economic independence of women. The rapid emergence of a service sector in the economy, with its new employment possibilities for women, from sales positions in the great department stores to secretarial work in the booming office world (driven by the powerful feminizing influence of the typewriter), created new forms of exploitation but also gave increasing numbers of young, unmarried women a financial and social independence they had not enjoyed before. This became even more marked after 1918, when there were 11.5 million women at work, making up 36 per cent of the working population. Although this was by no means a dramatic change from the situation before the war, many of them were now in publicly conspicuous jobs such as tram-conducting, serving in department stores, or, even if it was only a handful, in the legal, university and medical professions. 135 Increased female competition for male jobs, and a more general fear among nationalists that Germany’s strength was being sapped by the birth rate decline that set in around the turn of the century, merged with wider cultural anxieties to produce a backlash that was already becoming evident before 1914.136 There was a discernible crisis of masculinity in Germany before the war, as nationalists and Pan-Germans began to clamour for women’s return to home and family in order to fulfil their destiny of producing and educating more children for the nation. The sharpness of the reaction to the feminist challenge meant that the feminists were forced onto the defensive, began to marginalize their more radical supporters and increasingly stressed their impeccably nationalist credentials and their desire not to go too far with their demands for change.
God, fuck right off. Aren't there enough whiny/preachy subs on reddit for you to hang out in? I'm guessing most people are here in this sub for a laugh and to get away from redditors like you.
SOrry...you guys already established their is no objective morality, ergo all values are and morality are relative and thus no era can be claimed to be subjectively "better" than another--that is unless you are being anachronistic and judging everyone else by your silly civic SJW religion.
Who defines 'forward'? Because there are plenty of examples going both ways through history.
The Greeks and Romans didn't care much if you were a fudge packer (as long as you were a packer and not a receiver), and were pretty democratic early on. On the other hand, women were absolutely subservient to men and slavery was rife, Greeks especially saw non-Greeks as inferior people. Later on both cultures became far more authoritarian and conservative, especially after Christianity got involved.
Persians were very accepting of other religions and cultures but Ahura Mazda help you if you talked shit about the Shah.
It's a bullshit 2D view of history based entirely on modern ideals.
Scaphism, also known as the boats, was an ancient Persian method of execution designed to inflict torturous death that is reported in historical sources. The name comes from the Greek σκάφη, skáphe, meaning "anything scooped (or hollowed) out". According to the sources, which may not be reliable, it entailed trapping the victim inside two boats, feeding and covering him with milk and honey, and allowing him to fester and be devoured by vermin.
when you say that a piece of wisdom held for eons shouldn't be seen as hateful and someone proves you wrong by pointing to a briefly believed medical theory that turned out to be wrong
You don't have to be a progress obsessed SJW otherkin to find the whole "the old ways are right" schtick to be dumb. The old ways got us to where we are, but they also led to plenty of idiotic superstition.
But, the flip side of "progress" is that the old ways that remain are the most correct. It is like carving an elephant from a block of stone - you remove everything that isn't an elephant, but everything that remains is Cool and Good.
I don't really agree with that at all. Only 50 years ago black people were legally second class citizens. That was one of the "old ways" that had remained after we had nuclear power and computerization. Meanwhile, the Middle East has been sliding backwards since the height of the Ottoman Empire and China experienced a century of civil war after overturning the "old ways".
History does not "flow" in either direction. I prefer to use my own judgement to determine what is right rather than slavishly clinging to what is "new" or "old".
History does not "flow" in either direction. I prefer to use my own judgement to determine what is right rather than slavishly clinging to what is "new" or "old".
Do you see this moral and societal degeneration happening in your average Muslim country? I'll answer that for you: fuck no, because they don't let this degeneracy slide, like fucking liberal CUCKS in the USA. There's only one solution, and that is for everyone to convert to Islam.
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) didn't tolerate degeneracy like gay marriage or uppity feminists—nay! He mandated the ostracization and execution of gays, and made sure they would not become commonplace or accepted by the rest of the community. He made sure women knew their role in society and made sure to get it across: "No feminist bullshit here!"
In the meantime, you have Western society accepting gays, slut pride, gender-mixing, new genders, no genders, LGBT, and who knows what else?! Western society is truly degenerating without guidance, and I fear that as time passes, these degenerate groups only gain more and more power.
Muslims and conservatives might think they're enemies, but in reality, they're closer to each other than they think! An alliance would prove very fruitful for both sides.
Just repeat the declaration of faith after me:
أشهد أن لا إله إلا الله وحده لا شريك له وأشهد أن محمدا عبده ورسوله
and you'll be right on your way to becoming a great Muslim!
If by pasta you mean what Allah (swt) and his Messenger, the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) have revealed to us as guidance for humanity, then yes, it's pasta.
Gay allies should be the actual target of pence probably the only time a gay male would go anywhere near him for something thats not sex(dont deny that he is one hot daddy) an example FCKH8
Well, if you're implying trans people wanna cut off your non-existent sons wiener, that's just not true. Trans people just want to be able to exist; Donald Trump has unfettered access to the nuclear football and him and his followers have already committed some fairly scary acts. I think I'm rational enough to determine the bigger danger out of the two.
Can't trans people just be in their own category? I mean I'm just not attracted to transpeople and a lot of cis people just want a real penis or a real vagina.
It clearly doesn't since you call people girl without checking their genitals.
Maybe words can have different definitions depending on context, but this is probably to complex a concept for you to grasp.
Is this the Trannies reee thread for today? Let's just pretend I said something anti-trans and humorous this time so I don't have to think too hard. I have a headache
Redditors do get that trannies make up less than 1% of the population, right? And that by focusing intently on trans-rights when 1 of 5 men is seemingly permanently unemployed is basically saying to much of the population 'The left cares about a tiny group of the population that pretends to be female, more than we will ever care about you'?
Sure, they'll claim they can do two things at once...but 99.999% of their rhetoric and focus is on ID issues, and the rest is on the environment. None of it is on the economy.
Redditors do get that trannies make up less than 1% of the population, right?
For now...All the progressive lefty parents think its trendy and "forward thinking" to cut off their boys dicks if they like playing dress up or playing with dolls.
Just like "coming out" became the "cool" thing for edgy disaffected nerdy kids to do, so too will mutilating your genitals at age 13.
So, I googled "cotton ceiling" like one of the loons suggested and got this:
Basically, it means that cis queer women will be friends with us and talk day and night about trans rights and ending transmisogyny, but will still not consider us viable sexual partners.
These idiots literally think lesbians who want to eat pussy rather than suck dick are committing some human rights violation. Isn't kind of rapey to suggest someone fuck you even if they aren't attracted to you?
Also, if people are going to follow the link to troll or stir shit, use some common sense. Why would you ever say "Jesus christ, shut up." to one of the lolcows in the drama? Do we want them to shut up, hell no.
These idiots literally think lesbians who want to eat pussy rather than suck dick are committing some human rights violation.
I mean, isn't that the whole reason they are gay to begin with? These are the same retards that think its "transphobic" to not want to fuck a guy that cut off his ding-a-ling and has a gaping wound he pretends is a gussy.
The "cotton" refers to underwear, implying that the contents of a trans woman's underwear (i.e., whether she has a penis) are of importance.
I dunno if I want to go down the rabbit hole any further, but it seems as though the term is related to the belief that a trans woman has a female body even if she has a penis. I don't know if it's used also for post op trans women.
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1 nunast 2017-10-26
Seriously, are troons the biggest group of fucking whiners in history?
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2017-10-26
Yes, absolutely.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-26
Just the loud fringe minority on the internet.
Most trannies are just normal people that want to be left alone.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-10-26
oh, word?
1 pepperouchau 2017-10-26
More normal than /r/drama users, anyway
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-10-26
Post... bussy?
1 Butch_Patterson 2017-10-26
Pretty low bar there
1 pizzashill 2017-10-26
I wonder if there's ever going to be a time point in human history where conservatives just aren't mouth-breathing retards.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-10-26
I find it hilarious that 'living according to eons of accumulated human wisdom' is such a hateful concept to some people. Almost as if some people are trash whose only hope is for a reversal of values.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-26
Bro you realize conservatives have been at the core, the driving force behind nearly every extremist movement in modern history, right?
Not only that, but human society has been moving in a forward motion for all of modern history.
Who do you think it was fighting the enlightenment? Or every human rights movement in the west?
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-10-26
[citation needed] x 106
1 pizzashill 2017-10-26
Should we keep going?
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-10-26
have you not figured out that I don't agree with your interpretation of anything, so there is no point in posting all that shit?
1 pizzashill 2017-10-26
"interpretation" isn't the problem here, facts aren't based on your feelings.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-10-26
There are as many facts as there are atoms in the universe, friendo. Let go of your gay 2-dimensional mind.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-26
Ok crazy.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-10-26
xoxo
1 CucksLoveTrump 2017-10-26
Read Shattered dude. You gotta get up to speed with modern polisci
1 nunast 2017-10-26
Why the hell aren't you banned?
1 serialflamingo 2017-10-26
Why would they be?
1 lefedorasir 2017-10-26
what the fuck are you doing
1 pizzashill 2017-10-26
Wut.
1 nunast 2017-10-26
God, fuck right off. Aren't there enough whiny/preachy subs on reddit for you to hang out in? I'm guessing most people are here in this sub for a laugh and to get away from redditors like you.
1 CucksLoveTrump 2017-10-26
Pizzashill is a Russian plant to make you vote Republican
1 LadyVetinari 2017-10-26
I'm here for serious and thought-provoking discussions
1 Mayocide_Now 2017-10-26
False Whig theory of history
1 pizzashill 2017-10-26
No, history has irrefutably been moving in one direction, there might be time periods where it regresses, but it's always forward in the end.
1 Mayocide_Now 2017-10-26
SOrry...you guys already established their is no objective morality, ergo all values are and morality are relative and thus no era can be claimed to be subjectively "better" than another--that is unless you are being anachronistic and judging everyone else by your silly civic SJW religion.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-26
Who is "you guys" and can you provide some citation showing this to be true?
The fact you think I'm an SJW is hilarious. How's it feel to be literally a retarded person?
1 ironicshitpostr 2017-10-26
Cthulhu swims left
1 JohnTheOrc 2017-10-26
Well it's important to have some kind of faith
1 heavenlytoaster 2017-10-26
Back in my day poes law was about religion.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-26
Are you trying to claim society hasn't been moving forward?
1 Thulean-Dragon 2017-10-26
Who defines 'forward'? Because there are plenty of examples going both ways through history.
The Greeks and Romans didn't care much if you were a fudge packer (as long as you were a packer and not a receiver), and were pretty democratic early on. On the other hand, women were absolutely subservient to men and slavery was rife, Greeks especially saw non-Greeks as inferior people. Later on both cultures became far more authoritarian and conservative, especially after Christianity got involved.
Persians were very accepting of other religions and cultures but Ahura Mazda help you if you talked shit about the Shah.
It's a bullshit 2D view of history based entirely on modern ideals.
1 WikiTextBot 2017-10-26
Scaphism
Scaphism, also known as the boats, was an ancient Persian method of execution designed to inflict torturous death that is reported in historical sources. The name comes from the Greek σκάφη, skáphe, meaning "anything scooped (or hollowed) out". According to the sources, which may not be reliable, it entailed trapping the victim inside two boats, feeding and covering him with milk and honey, and allowing him to fester and be devoured by vermin.
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1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2017-10-26
Eons of wisdom!
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-10-26
science != wisdom
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2017-10-26
Either you're an idiot or you're dodging my point. Just because an idea is long-held doesn't mean it's wise.
1 Douggem 2017-10-26
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2017-10-26
> piece of wisdom
> implying there's anything wise
The concept of "humors" persisted for over a millennium.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-10-26
The concept of scientific inquiry began 2000 years before that. :-D
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2017-10-26
That's nice. Still doesn't change the fact that a millennium is not a brief period of time.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-10-26
How about you chop your dick off about it
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2017-10-26
Why would I chop off my dick? We've had some good times together.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-10-26
It is social progress, friend. Keep Yourself Degenerate.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2017-10-26
You don't have to be a progress obsessed SJW otherkin to find the whole "the old ways are right" schtick to be dumb. The old ways got us to where we are, but they also led to plenty of idiotic superstition.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-10-26
The old ways aren't always right.
But, the flip side of "progress" is that the old ways that remain are the most correct. It is like carving an elephant from a block of stone - you remove everything that isn't an elephant, but everything that remains is Cool and Good.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2017-10-26
I don't really agree with that at all. Only 50 years ago black people were legally second class citizens. That was one of the "old ways" that had remained after we had nuclear power and computerization. Meanwhile, the Middle East has been sliding backwards since the height of the Ottoman Empire and China experienced a century of civil war after overturning the "old ways".
History does not "flow" in either direction. I prefer to use my own judgement to determine what is right rather than slavishly clinging to what is "new" or "old".
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-10-26
2000 years ago they were legally Roman citizens. Pro...gress...
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-10-26
Agreed.
1 shallowm 2017-10-26
Do you see this moral and societal degeneration happening in your average Muslim country? I'll answer that for you: fuck no, because they don't let this degeneracy slide, like fucking liberal CUCKS in the USA. There's only one solution, and that is for everyone to convert to Islam.
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) didn't tolerate degeneracy like gay marriage or uppity feminists—nay! He mandated the ostracization and execution of gays, and made sure they would not become commonplace or accepted by the rest of the community. He made sure women knew their role in society and made sure to get it across: "No feminist bullshit here!"
In the meantime, you have Western society accepting gays, slut pride, gender-mixing, new genders, no genders, LGBT, and who knows what else?! Western society is truly degenerating without guidance, and I fear that as time passes, these degenerate groups only gain more and more power.
Muslims and conservatives might think they're enemies, but in reality, they're closer to each other than they think! An alliance would prove very fruitful for both sides.
Just repeat the declaration of faith after me:
أشهد أن لا إله إلا الله وحده لا شريك له وأشهد أن محمدا عبده ورسوله
and you'll be right on your way to becoming a great Muslim!
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-10-26
We aren't "conservatives". We are Western Civilization.
1 APPLE_NUGGETS 2017-10-26
Is this pasta?
1 shallowm 2017-10-26
If by pasta you mean what Allah (swt) and his Messenger, the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) have revealed to us as guidance for humanity, then yes, it's pasta.
1 APPLE_NUGGETS 2017-10-26
Inshallah my brother
1 shallowm 2017-10-26
You know, you actually seem sane for the most part. Is your misogyny ironic or real? If it's real, do you mind explaining your beliefs?
1 pizzashill 2017-10-26
Nearly 100% ironic.
1 heavenlytoaster 2017-10-26
Indeed it is infact "allies" of all types that are the most massive whiny retarded wankers.
1 crimsonchibolt 2017-10-26
Gay allies should be the actual target of pence probably the only time a gay male would go anywhere near him for something thats not sex(dont deny that he is one hot daddy) an example FCKH8
1 Mayocide_Now 2017-10-26
"Normal".
I do no thinka that worda means, watcha think it means
1 FuckingWrites 2017-10-26
Trannies are more normal than Trump supporters. At least trannies aren't a danger to others and themselves.
1 Mayocide_Now 2017-10-26
HA!
Trump is not trying to cut of my son's wanger. I see no "danger" in stopping the flow of unregistered bottom-feeders.
1 FuckingWrites 2017-10-26
Well, if you're implying trans people wanna cut off your non-existent sons wiener, that's just not true. Trans people just want to be able to exist; Donald Trump has unfettered access to the nuclear football and him and his followers have already committed some fairly scary acts. I think I'm rational enough to determine the bigger danger out of the two.
1 ilikerainandstorms 2017-10-26
1 FuckingWrites 2017-10-26
Hardly. It's just too easy beaking on Trumpettes.
1 IvankaTrumpIsMyWaifu 2017-10-26
Please, explain how someone who wants to get their dick split open is ""normal""
1 Chicup 2017-10-26
They are a fringe minority to start with, and there are undoubtedly more on the internet than in real life.
1 Charles_Thunderpenis 2017-10-26
Or "genderqueer" people aka tomboy prior to (current year) + 2
1 botchlings 2017-10-26
Yes
1 jack_be_numb 2017-10-26
-Every man and trans woman ever
1 no_frills 2017-10-26
Appropriating dead&gay internet subcultures is NOT OK 😤😤😤
1 boyoyoyoyong 2017-10-26
u/ajd011394 I hate to be the bearer of bad news but a vagina is kind of a prerequisite for being female
1 ThePokyLittlePuppy 2017-10-26
Can't trans people just be in their own category? I mean I'm just not attracted to transpeople and a lot of cis people just want a real penis or a real vagina.
1 Mayocide_Now 2017-10-26
I mean...if you really believe that, you are fucking nuts.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-10-26
I have a live hyena head between my legs. Am gril
1 Snowayne2 2017-10-26
Do you check people's genitals everytime before you call them a girl?
1 Mayocide_Now 2017-10-26
The definition of a girl requires a vagina.
1 Snowayne2 2017-10-26
It clearly doesn't since you call people girl without checking their genitals.
Maybe words can have different definitions depending on context, but this is probably to complex a concept for you to grasp.
1 DontTrustRedditors 2017-10-26
No, but if I call someone a girl and they have a dick, that just makes me wrong.
1 shallowm 2017-10-26
So you're saying gick doesn't exist?
1 Chicup 2017-10-26
My rule is everyone is male until you have seen them naked.
1 LemonScore 2017-10-26
The vast majority of MtF trans people do not pass as women.
1 ineedmorealts 2017-10-26
I want to challenge this, but I can't any evidence one way or the other. Therefore I'm going to call you a faggot gussy lover
1 shitpost953 2017-10-26
yes
sexy femoid nuts ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
1 Basically_Trash 2017-10-26
Is this the Trannies reee thread for today? Let's just pretend I said something anti-trans and humorous this time so I don't have to think too hard. I have a headache
1 weniscommander 2017-10-26
Just take the bulletpill cures headaches instantly.
1 CucksLoveTrump 2017-10-26
Keep yourself safe friend! The admins ar banning for calls to violence/animal dicks!
1 DontTrustRedditors 2017-10-26
Redditors do get that trannies make up less than 1% of the population, right? And that by focusing intently on trans-rights when 1 of 5 men is seemingly permanently unemployed is basically saying to much of the population 'The left cares about a tiny group of the population that pretends to be female, more than we will ever care about you'?
Sure, they'll claim they can do two things at once...but 99.999% of their rhetoric and focus is on ID issues, and the rest is on the environment. None of it is on the economy.
1 botchlings 2017-10-26
No, because the internet gives them all a place to congregate so most redditors think there are a lot more of them than actually exist.
1 Mayocide_Now 2017-10-26
For now...All the progressive lefty parents think its trendy and "forward thinking" to cut off their boys dicks if they like playing dress up or playing with dolls.
Just like "coming out" became the "cool" thing for edgy disaffected nerdy kids to do, so too will mutilating your genitals at age 13.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-10-26
You obviously are not familiar with /r/neoliberal
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2017-10-26
You think this is anyone's fault but their own? Capitalism is dick slapping them for a reason.
1 Namenamenamenamena 2017-10-26
Lmao at calling transphobia a medical term.
1 parameciidae 2017-10-26
So, I googled "cotton ceiling" like one of the loons suggested and got this:
These idiots literally think lesbians who want to eat pussy rather than suck dick are committing some human rights violation. Isn't kind of rapey to suggest someone fuck you even if they aren't attracted to you?
Also, if people are going to follow the link to troll or stir shit, use some common sense. Why would you ever say "Jesus christ, shut up." to one of the lolcows in the drama? Do we want them to shut up, hell no.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-10-26
I speak with the voice of thunder.
1 CucksLoveTrump 2017-10-26
I'm saying this from a place of love: stop acting like a Pennsylvania housewife
1 ahbslldud 2017-10-26
It's not "kind of" rapey, it's super fucking rapey. Trannies are the worst thing to happen to the lesbian community.
1 botchlings 2017-10-26
Not when SJWs do it.
As for everything else... there's a reason why TERFs exist...
1 Mayocide_Now 2017-10-26
I mean, isn't that the whole reason they are gay to begin with? These are the same retards that think its "transphobic" to not want to fuck a guy that cut off his ding-a-ling and has a gaping wound he pretends is a gussy.
1 ilikerainandstorms 2017-10-26
1 PussMonster_ 2017-10-26
It's also really odd that you never hear people say gay men are transphobic for not wanting to have sex with vaginas
1 ironicshitpostr 2017-10-26
FTM are a lot more reasonable on the whole
1 Hammer_of_truthiness 2017-10-26
Its because Test is the logic hormone
1 LadyVetinari 2017-10-26
That...explains TERFs. I get it now. They're ok I guess
1 shallowm 2017-10-26
Does this term cover post-op transgender people too?
I don't see why you'd want to be with someone who doesn't want to be with you anyway, unless you come from /r/incels.
1 parameciidae 2017-10-26
I dunno if I want to go down the rabbit hole any further, but it seems as though the term is related to the belief that a trans woman has a female body even if she has a penis. I don't know if it's used also for post op trans women.
1 SethRichOrDieTryin 2017-10-26
Oh I assumed the cotton referred to the cotton in a tampon. TIL.
1 botchlings 2017-10-26
Yes they do. If you're a "girl" with a penis then you are really just a man pretending to be a woman.
1 TheTrueNobody 2017-10-26
/u/ajd011394 here's a little lesson. Boys have peepees and girls have vajayjays.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-10-26
/u/ajd011394 it's an anatomical term. Anatomy is a foundation of medicine. You're an
idiotoriginal thinker.Also, how do you feel about the incel community?
1 aliceunknown 2017-10-26
It that Cheeto's dick?