/u/botchlings: "Our Dear Leader Trump told us himself that he isn't investigation and that he didn't collude with the Russians, so that means he didn't. Case closed. He's your president, are you going to believe him, or are you going to believe a fake news commie media outlet like Reuters?"
Trump could be walked out in cuffs tomorrow and they'd still be claiming it was part of some grand Trumplican plan to finally bring down crooked Hillary and Obummer.
Hmm, I thought it was started as Republican oppo research during the primaries, and then bought up and added to while the DNC was paying out. Is that not the case? (I’ve been getting my news on this from Reddit though, which is always the best move)
Hmm, I thought it was started as Republican oppo research during the primaries, and then bought up and added to while the DNC was paying out. Is that not the case?
That seems to be the case. The majority of the work was done while the DNC was footing the bill
Lmao look at this retard serious posting all over this thread then he gets called out for being s retard and they're the ones serious posting. Making fun of yor dumb ass isn't serious posting you autist.
Do you really want to draw more attention to you not knowing what dossier means? You're gonna have to spend a lot of time calling people mad for making fun of you.
Bad time for Republicans to be screeching about sources considering the hoops they jumped through with wikileaks.
I think we can all agree that anyone who at any point thought Wikileaks ever had a noble cause probably deserves to be gassed. I will never understand how adults can defend its mission or the LSD-cult lovechild who runs it.
Wikileaks was pushing spirit cooking and pizzagate and blatantly taking emails out of context while selling anti-Clinton t-shirts.
Assange is truly the Alex Jones of the open-source foreign policy crowd. It’s a shame the US isn’t an iota of the monster Asange portrays it as, because that pasty fuck deserves to be water boarded using his own t-shirt merch.
The only agenda wikileaks ever had was to destabilize the US and they did that by trying to help Trump.
And they’ve been so fucking blatant about it too. I get that the_Donald crowd is happy to use Russia’s goods against Clinton, but why they seem to like him eludes me.
Sure, many aspects of the dossier were publically available information that can easily be verified. Nobody gives a shit about those aspects of the dossier though.
everyone whos accused trump of vague collusion that ranges from flat out treason to russians incidentally buying facebook ads
its a dumb american knee jerk response just like they did after 911 and how they were all scared of random communists before that
the next one is nazis/white supremacy in case you hadnt noticed
americans are easy to trick into thinking some random country or ideology is against them, that way you make them more willing to forgive bullshit their own side does as a "response"
powers that be hate trump ergo trick dumb people into being angry at him because russia
Alright, we're going to expose you for how stupid you are.
lol sure you are
Define "they."
the establishment, the people that hate trump
because both major parties are basically the same team, its the illusion of choice to keep plebs content and trump fucked it up for them
Show me examples of that "they" lying about Russia. And by "they" you better mean the authorities you mouth-breathing tard.
cant prove a negative genius, as soon as theres any evidence whatsoever for any sort of collusion then you might be able to say something, probably not though because itll be easily debunked like everything else
the fact that theyve moved the goalposts continually as theyve been proven wrong shows theyre lying though
A) Russia irrefutably had facebook ads
yeah i was being facetious because russians buying facebook ads isnt election meddling in any way shape or form, its an example of how unhinged the dnc has become with their accusations
The investigation for collusion isn't done yet, how is accusing Trump of collusion a lie?
guess youll find out when nothing happens because of it
the people accusing him lie for a living and theyre lying now
because both major parties are basically the same team, its the illusion of choice to keep plebs content and trump fucked it up for them
Both siderism is the tards figleaf.
cant prove a negative genius, as soon as theres any evidence whatsoever for any sort of collusion then you might be able to say something, probably not though because itll be easily debunked like everything else
"THEY ALL LIED ABOUT TRUMP, I CAN'T PROVE THEY LIED, BUT THEY DID BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THEY DID."
yeah i was being facetious because russians buying facebook ads isnt election meddling in any way shape or form, its an example of how unhinged the dnc has become with their accusations
It's called a disinformation campaign, tard.
the people accusing him lie for a living and theyre lying now
Yet you can't provide a single example of this lie.
im talking about the american political parties you fuckin goof, theyre identical and they work with each other, they dont represent differing ideals
its just old people with lifelong careers pretending to have positions and then doing the opposite once given the chance
also the only people that get angry when you condemn both extremes are extremists
oh no someone criticised antifa! lol foh
"THEY ALL LIED ABOUT TRUMP, I CAN'T PROVE THEY LIED, BUT THEY DID BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THEY DID."
no, you literally cant prove a negative, and the burden of proof is on you and the people who claim it happened
It's called a disinformation campaign, tard.
id love to hear how you think that works
if youre dumb enough to be swayed by a facebook ad then looking at a bag of chips would probably sway your opinion too, so its probably not worth much in the first place
Yet you can't provide a single example of this lie.
you dont think theres examples of the media and government lying for a living?
im talking about the american political parties you fuckin goof, theyre identical and they work with each other, they dont represent differing ideals
The fact you actually believe this displays a deep ignorance of American politics to such an extent I doubt you even have the mental capacity to comprehend how retarded what you just said is.
no, you literally cant prove a negative, and the burden of proof is on you and the people who claim it happened
You accused people of lying, what did they lie about?
if youre dumb enough to be swayed by a facebook ad then looking at a bag of chips would probably sway your opinion too, so its probably not worth much in the first place
LIKE 85% OF THE POPULATION IS DUMB ENOUGH TO BE DUPED BY FACEBOOK ADS.
Do you have any idea how propaganda works? Why do you think Russia invests so heavily in disinformation wars?
you dont think theres examples of the media and government lying for a living?
No, I'm asking you for examples of the authorities lying about Trump and Russia.
nigga american politics is remedial level, its intro to politics for dumb people 101, its not hard to understand
Do you even live in America?
of course not
You realize a simple look at voting records completely destroys the argument you just made, right?
people believing theyre different is what they rely on, it doesnt mean they are different
You accused people of lying, what did they lie about?
russian "hackers", then russian "collusion", and now russian "interference"
remember when the dnc kept claiming russian hackers hacked podestas email, and how russian hackers totally hacked hillarys email
whoops turns out theyre just shit at security and someone leaked it
funnily enough back in the day when bill clinton was under scrutiny for sticking cigars in interns, hillary said it was a "vast right wing conspiracy" and was ridiculous and a witchhunt
but just because she lied about that shit back then using the exact same terminology doesnt mean shed do it again right!
LIKE 85% OF THE POPULATION IS DUMB ENOUGH TO BE DUPED BY FACEBOOK ADS.
yes id totally be swayed to vote for trump if i was a black man and i was getting targeted advertising for self defense lessons, because that totally makes sense
those crafty kgb operatives amirite
fuck the direct approach, subtly hint at black dudes to get fit and america is theirs
Do you have any idea how propaganda works?
yeah i do actually
generally it has an easy to digest message that spreads easily and doesnt just leave you feeling confused
why dont you go ahead and tell me what messages they spread via facebook
No, I'm asking you for examples of the authorities lying about Trump and Russia.
nigga american politics is remedial level, its intro to politics for dumb people 101, its not hard to understand
Clearly it is pretty hard considering you have no clue what you're talking about.
people believing theyre different is what they rely on, it doesnt mean they are different
The voting records clearly SHOW they're different.
russian "hackers"
Russian hackers = confirmed by multiple intelligence agencies globally, and multiple indie cyber security firms.
then russian "collusion"
Remains to be seen if Trump himself did, but his retard handlers absolutely did.
and now russian "interference"
disinformation campaigns are interference.
So far you're 0-3.
remember when the dnc kept claiming russian hackers hacked podestas email, and how russian hackers totally hacked hillarys email
Russia was behind the DNC hack and likely behind the podesta operation as well.
whoops turns out theyre just shit at security and someone leaked it
Again, are you just making shit up? The conclusion is that Russia was behind the DNC hack.
funnily enough back in the day when bill clinton was under scrutiny for sticking cigars in interns, hillary said it was a "vast right wing conspiracy" and was ridiculous and a witchhunt
Funnily enough, there are countless examples of republican witch hunts, and she was talking about those for the most part. The greeting card conspiracy and benghazi are prime examples.
yes id totally be swayed to vote for trump if i was a black man and i was getting targeted advertising for self defense lessons, because that totally makes sense
Why do you think Russia and the US invest so heavily in disinformation campaigns?
fuck the direct approach, subtly hint at black dudes to get fit and america is theirs
When one country doesn't have the hard power to compete with another, why would they not become competent in asymmetrical warfare?
Maddow took her viewers on a tour down memory lane, specifically to 1997, when House Reform and Oversight Committee Chairman Dan Burton made it his raison d’être to unseat then-President Bill Clinton, a quest that involved accusing Clinton of everything from doctoring fundraiser tapes to selling burial plots in Arlington National Cemetery. Burton also once shot a watermelon in his backyard as part of a recreation of the alleged murder of Vince Foster.
“For years, Dan Burton’s whole reason for being was to try to find a way to take down the presidency of Bill Clinton using the powers of his own office in the House,” Maddow said.
The most absurd of the faux-scandals involved a Christmas card the Clintons sent out in 1997. It wasn’t the card that caught Burton’s eye so much as the database of contact information the Clintons used to send it, which included the names and addresses of 350,000 of people they had met since moving into the White House.
“Congressional Republicans knew it was a scandal!” Maddow said, in a mock Columbo voice. “They suspected something nefarious. They thought the Christmas card list was somehow corrupt, criminal, an abuse of power. So Republicans held hearings. Republicans called up thirty-four witnesses to give depositions about the Christmas card list. They demanded more than 40,000 documents about the Christmas card list. They held days of hearings on the Christmas card list. And they accuse liberals of waging war on Christmas?”
“Despite all the hearings and the depositions and all the rest of it,” Maddow continued, “the Republican investigations into the Christmas card list turned up nothing. Sometimes a Christmas card is just a Christmas card.”
That can be demonstrated by doing things like showing person images of children and measuring things like brain activity and blood-flow and comparing it to the general population and to a population of known pedophiles. This can ascertain to a reasonable likelihood whether or not someone responds similar to a pedophile.
The fact you think you dropped a checkmate only reinforces the perception of you being a semi-literate mouth-breathing moron.
That can be demonstrated by doing things like showing person images of children and measuring things like brain activity and blood-flow and comparing it to the general population and to a population of known pedophiles.
not really its all pseudo science
and lol at taking it literally you dunce, the point is you literally cant prove a negative
Says the guy displaying zero understanding of science.
and lol at taking it literally you dunce, the point is you literally cant prove a negative
Yes, you literally can. For example, proving that no largest prime exists is trivial. But feel free to keep blathering about things you don’t understand, as morons love to do.
check mate
You don’t seem to know much about chess either, since you’re doing the equivalent of sacrificing a knight to capture a pawn before you shout “checkmate” here.
Says the guy displaying zero understanding of science.
lol ok, why dont you start studying phrenology too
Yes, you literally can. For example, proving that no largest prime exists is trivial.
uh do you even understand what proving a negative means
again, prove youre not a pedophile, here and now
notice how im the one making the accusation and the onus is on me to back up my assertion? nope throw that out the window its your responsibility now
guess youre a pedo unless you can come up with conclusive evidence proving otherwise
You don’t seem to know much about chess either, since you’re doing the equivalent of sacrificing a knight to capture a pawn before you shout “checkmate” here.
fucking cringe dude
imagine being so irrationally angry about a trump presidency you start asserting that its possible to prove a negative lol
come on dude. there are clearly a large segment of establishment politicians who believe they can use trump for their own ends. trump isn't some brave maverick, he's a tool
theres establishment politicians that think they can ride the wave of hate, is that what you mean
john mccain springs to mind
however you want to spin it trumps election threw a wrench in the plans of both the dnc and republicans, and the only people that stand behind him are the ones that think they can sense a turning of tides so to speak
often theyll change their mind halfway through anyway as weve seen
however you want to spin it trumps election threw a wrench in the plans of both the dnc and republicans, and the only people that stand behind him are the ones that think they can sense a turning of tides so to speak
i agree with all of this except it's not a matter of them wanting to "ride the tide" as much as it is "hey, this shit is just gonna pass eventually, so let's abuse it as much as we can"
like almost all (not literally all but almost all) of what trump has actually done, as opposed to what he's just said he'll do, has helped ratfuck scum like ted cruz, marco rubio, etc. it's just the same old shit. it's nothing different to them. it's not jeb bush, sure, but it's still within the range of what a further-right republican would do normally.
they either think trump will go down, in which case theyll shit on him and his policy hoping to be able to say "i told you so" afterwards (this is what all the dnc and most of the republicans are doing)
or they have a suspicion that trump is right, in which case they suck up to him and get behind him early so theyre in a good position to take over once the "swamp" has been ousted
most dont have the conviction to stick around too long in option 2 as weve seen over the past year, because they tend to panic every time theres some new apparent scandal
has been the same shit ratfuck scum like ted cruz, marco rubio, etc. would have done. it's just the same old shit.
its also the same thing obama did for 8 years though thats what i dont get
obama did a travel ban, was at war every day during his terms, bombed innumerable people, didnt close guantanamo, etc etc
politicians lie and theyre all the same, i guarantee if hillary won shed do the exact same but with zero transparency
its also the same thing obama did for 8 years though thats what i dont get ... politicians lie and theyre all the same, i guarantee if hillary won shed do the exact same but with zero transparency
i think there would be some major differences (more aggressive towards russia, bad imo, less dumb shit wrt environmental regulations, good imo) but yes, the trump admin is just another presidential admin. that's my point. he's not some anti-globalist for the people hero, he's just a dumbfuck
also the trump admin is not transparent whatsoever so that would not be a change
fucking lol have you not watched the news in a year and a half
omg trump hates women omg trump hates Gold Star Families omg trump is racist omg trump is sexist lets march against trump guys were all part of the resistance
also the republicans fucking hate him did you not watch the primaries
That’s called being critical of the POTUS you giant fucking retard. Sorry you literally shake with anger when some criticizes your fucking waifu but news flash this is how
It’s always been for the president.
At the end of the day tho the guy in control of the establishment is the fucking POTUS.
yep he totally has power over everyone, thats why they can veto him and stall and obstruct for months on end for something as simple as immigration restriction
they view the current president basically as an usurper. because he didn't win by grace of the establishment, without their support and against their wishes.
PINKO CONFIRMED! /u/captainpriapism lays to rest any doubts that he loves communism and wishes he could have been the wife on Bernie Sanders' Russian honeymoon.
He's pointing out the hypocrisy of you taking the Trump-Russia collusion conspiracy seriously whilst ignoring the Clinton-uranium accusations as a conspiracy theory.
Yeah, every criminal investigation involves courts. We'll see whether any charges actually stick. Given that multiple investigations from various government agencies have come to nothing, I'm looking forward to even more reeeeeeeeeeeeeeing from you and the other leftists as this new bullshit falls to pieces.
The other is a delusional conspiracy
lol, the Clinton Foundation is crooked as fuck, and very openly so. Everyone knows that they stole millions in aid to Haiti. Taking bribes to sell uranium is the least of the shit they're involved with.
people came up with
By "people" you mean government officials on the same level of those investigating Trump, right?
It will make my year when it's revealed that the Clintons are the ones who "colluded with Russia" and their political legacy is ripped to pieces.
Can you feel it, pizzashill? A sense of impending misery?
lol, the Clinton Foundation is crooked as fuck, and very openly so. Everyone knows that they stole millions in aid to Haiti. Taking bribes to sell uranium is the least of the shit they're involved with.
Well, ignoring the fact no uranium was sold to Russia, because, you know, Russia has no ability to export uranium from the united states, and also ignoring the fact Clinton had no power over the deal on any level:
By "people" you mean government officials on the same level of those investigating Trump, right?
No, the conspiracy did not come from them and nothing in that article last week said anything about Hillary Clinton, they found out Russia had been bribing some trucking company in the US and the article then used that to imply it was somehow connected to Clinton.
The origin of the conspiracy is "Clinton cash" and the author has lied multiple times:
It will make my year when it's revealed that the Clintons are the ones who "colluded with Russia" and their political legacy is ripped to pieces. Can you feel it, pizzashill? A sense of impending misery?
I mean, if you didn't just expose the fact you're a highly misinformed idiot, I might care what you think.
Well, ignoring the fact no uranium was sold to Russia
You're right, because the United States' relationship with Russia hit an iceberg when they invaded Ukrainian and made Obama look like a limp-wristed fool.
What Russia did do was make money from transporting Uranium around the US by using a company controlled by the Russian government and by utilizing bribes and racketeering.Something that isn't fucking disputable because the FBI put a guy in jail for four years over it (Vadim Mikerin):
The FBI also seems to think that the Russians were using companies in the US to route money to the Clinton Foundation:
The informant's lawyer, Victoria Toensing, told The Hill on Wednesday that the FBI told her it is releasing her client from his nondisclosure agreement so he can discuss his work "uncovering the Russian nuclear bribery case and the efforts he witnessed by Moscow to gain influence with (former President Bill Clinton and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton) in hopes of winning favorable uranium decisions from the Obama administration."
[...]
Sources cited by the newspaper indicated that Russian nuclear officials routed millions of dollars to the United States that were designed to benefit the Clinton Foundation at the same time the deal was approved.
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/26/politics/doj-fbi-informant-uranium-congress/index.html
But, wow: the FBI is sure going to look dumb when you take the stand and inform them that the secretary of state has no power at all and that she and her husband and daughter had no influence over the Democratic party!
All the time and effort they're wasting setting up investigations and finding and protecting informants, when all they really needed was a dismissive comment from /u/pizzashill to explain that they were wasting their time!
The origin of the conspiracy is "Clinton cash"
Really? Because the FBI started their investigation long before that book was published.
And are you seriously saying that the FBI is using that book as a source for their investigation, are you fucking dumb enough that you think people will fall for this shit?
factcheck.org
Cite Snopes and Shareblue, too, they're just as unbiased. Hell, why not just cite Clinton herself saying that the accusations are "baloney," it's an open and shut case.
Also, those statistics "proving" that donations from the Clinton Foundation mostly go to "charity programs" are also lies. The truth is that the Clinton Foundation, and other entities run by the Clintons, don't divulge how their donations are spent and actively restrict people from seeing their financial data:
Ortel: The Clinton Foundation began operating in Haiti around 2003 and 2004 and many have written about their activities. One excellent resource is the author and journalist Dady Chery. The first issue with Clinton Foundation efforts is that the main Foundation was NEVER validly authorized by the IRS to do anything outside the US, to provide international disaster relief, or to “fight HIV/AIDS” internationally. Though required by state, federal, and foreign laws to make truthful, granular disclosures concerning its key initiatives, the Clinton Foundation (meaning all of its related entities) has never done so.
Goodman: After the earthquake, did the Haitian government ask the Clinton Foundation for assistance?
Ortel: Prior to the Earthquake, Bill Clinton had been appointed UN Special Envoy to Haiti early in 2009. But they also did something quite curious in Florida related to Haiti―they set up an entity called William J. Clinton Foundation Corporation. Ordinarily, the Foundation might simply have registered its AR parent as licensed to do charity work inside FL, but instead Cheryl Mills et al seem to have established a brand new domestic FL entity with a similar sounding name as the main entity. This practice is frowned upon, and deemed by many to be a warning sign for charity fraud.
[...]
Goodman: How much money did the Clinton Foundation raise for Haiti and how much of that money went to the Haitian people?
Ortel: The books of the Clinton Foundation and of Clinton-Bush Haiti Fund suggest that around $100 million or so may have been raised―but the truth is that no one really knows. One major warning sign is that the Clinton Fondation 990 for 2010 (and the amended return for 2010 filed in November 2015) show the largest single expenditure as being a $37 million grant to the CBHF―the trouble is that both declarations list a PO Box address in Baltimore, MD as that of the CBHF, whereas other declarations made under penalties of perjury state that the CBHF had one office only and that was in Washington, DC.
Another problem is that the CBHF claims in its 990s to the IRS that it had no foreign bank accounts― How did they manage millions of dollars inside Haiti? All told, high end estimates of how much money may have been sent towards Haiti exceed $10 billion and this amount is about equal to the total incomes earned by all Haitians during 2010, so it is a mammoth sum, considered in the context of Haiti. Most of these funds were raised, not through the Clinton Foundation and CBHF, which are estimated to have raised $0.130 billion altogether, but through Clinton’s Interim Haiti Recovery Commission (IHRC), which, according to Dady Chery, ran Haiti during a declared state of emergency from April 2010 to October 2011.
Very little, trifling amounts, seem to have actually helped. So where did all these missing billions go?
Goodman: Are there other examples similar to Haiti, where the Clinton Foundation utilized a tragedy in a similar manner?
Ortel: The Clintons seem to be “merchants around misery”, operating as a kind of “Robin Hood in Reverse”―-there are many disasters that they seem to have exploited. In brief, the Clinton Foundation solicited massive sums to “fight HIV/AIDS” but did not check carefully enough to ensure that these drugs were supplied in intact form, and neither adulterated nor watered-down.
A key supplier, Ranbaxy, subsequently paid a $500 million economic penalty and plead guilty to numerous felonies―we may never know how many of the HIV/AIDS drugs that the Clinton Foundation claims credit for having distributed from July 2002 forward internationally may have been “dirty” and dangerous. Around the world, the Clinton Foundation seems to seek out desperate nations with limited infrastructure, or disasters, and then insert itself in front of incoming aid flows. They did this in Mozambique, in Papua New Guinea, in Haiti, and with Katrina in New Orleans, and in many other places.
Goodman: In terms of the money and the issue of the Clinton Foundation being a charity, are there any red flags in terms of the financial aspect of the controversy?
Ortel: Absolutely―-Americans and others in wealthy nations are generous. There is no global regulator for charities that operate internationally, while State regulators typically are stretched thin cover the estimated 1.2 million or more tax-exempt organizations that exist inside the U.S. alone. The easiest “red flag” to see is that there are no compliant audits of the financial statements of any Clinton Foundation entity from 23 October 1997 forward.
There is no information provided concerning the international HIV/AIDS fighting activities from July 2002 through 23 March 2004. The application to authorize Clinton Foundation HIV/AIDS Initiative, Inc. (the entity was formed 24 March 2004 in Little Rock, AR) is omitted from the Clinton Foundation website, as in any determination letter that may have been issued (if one was issued) by the IRS.
The Annual Reports for this entity on IRS Form 990 for 2004 and 2005 are omitted from the website―-I have these and they show that the entity and the Clinton Foundation failed, numerous ways, to register appropriately and to solicit in many legal jurisdictions. Financial information for 2000 through 2004 concerning the Clinton Foundation is omitted from the website, but available online―-this information shows that accounting during this key period, when the Clinton Foundation complex was being built was performed using accounting principles that are not allowed inside the U.S.
The final area that raises red flags arises when you check disclosures made by key donors to the Clinton Foundation (UNITAID (the largest cumulative donor at $650 million, and a collection of governments/Gates), other governments and Gates Foundation, Children’s Investment Fund Foundation (UK), and others)―amounts these donors believe they gave are much larger than amounts Clinton Foundation entities appear to claim they received.
To any neutral person watching this back-and-forth between myself and pizzashill: this is what he does.
First, he tells blatant, stupid lies but fills his posts with biased links and paragraphs of text (that usually have fucking nothing relevant to what he's even trying to prove) that make what he's saying look legit to anyone that isn't willing to spend at least an hour reading up on this shit themselves (most people).
Then he relies on the fact that most of us just can't be bothered debunking his bullshit because he's a slimy individual that constantly misdirects and draws out the argument until people give up and stop responding,, thus making it seem like no one can dispute his "facts" and that he must be correct.
You're right, because the United States' relationship with Russia hit an iceberg when they invaded Ukrainian and made Obama look like a limp-wristed fool.
No, because they never had the right to export uranium from the united states for obvious reasons:
This literally hoop you're trying to jump through to avoid admitting you fell for blatant propaganda isn't going to fly.
What Russia did do was make money from transporting Uranium around the US by using a company controlled by the Russian government and by utilizing bribes and racketeering.Something that isn't fucking disputable because the FBI put a guy in jail for four years over it (Vadim Mikerin):
You're a moron dude.
A) That company isn't related to the uranium one deal.
B) The amount of money Russia would make from something like this is trivial, that wasn't the point of the uranium one deal.
Uranium one had holdings in Kazakhstan, a country already in the Russian sphere of influence. THAT was what Russia was after.
But here's the thing ― by 20%, we really mean almost zero.
Those U.S. facilities obtained by Russia produce almost nothing. The uranium deposits are of relatively poor grade and are too costly to compete on the uranium market. But the facilities do have good milling capacity to process ore, if anyone gives it to them, which hasn’t happened in about 10 years. Theoretically, they could process 20% of our ore, but that will never happen. Uranium One couldn’t give these facilities away.
The real reason Russia wanted this deal was to give Rosatom’s subsidiary Uranium One's very profitable uranium mines in Kazakhstan ― the single largest producer of commercial uranium in the world.
1
Really? Because the FBI started their investigation long before that book was published.
And are you seriously saying that the FBI is using that book as a source for their investigation, are you fucking dumb enough that you think people will fall for this shit?
No they fucking didn't. The FBI is also riddled with right-wing mongoloids too, they literally tried to use Clinton cash:
Cite Snopes and Shareblue, too, they're just as unbiased. Hell, why not just cite Clinton herself saying that the accusations are "baloney," it's an open and shut case.
Can you point out what in that factcheck.org article is factually incorrect?
Also, those statistics "proving" that donations from the Clinton Foundation mostly go to "charity programs" are also lies. The truth is that the Clinton Foundation, and other entities run by the Clintons, don't divulge how their donations are spent and actively restrict people from seeing their financial data:
No, they aren't. This tactic you're trying to use where you hand-wave every source that says you're wrong isn't going to fly outside of the Donald.
The Hati thing is bullshit too. If you want an actual read about Haiti, from a credible source, from someone that was actually there? Here you go:
To any neutral person watching this back-and-forth between myself and pizzashill: this is what he does.
Dismantle retards using facts?
Then he relies on the fact that most of us just can't be bothered debunking his bullshit because he's a slimy individual that constantly misdirects and draws out the argument until people give up and stop responding,, thus making it seem like no one can dispute his "facts" and that he must be correct.
You didn't debunk anything. You got fucking dismantled because you're an unedcuated ignorant fucking clown with no clue what you're talking about.
You tried to claim Russia was turning a profit from trucking uranium around the US because you didn't even know what they were after in the deal.
You're just a really dumb person dude. You're repeating Breitbart talking points you've never bothered to fact check, and then when you get put in the dirt you claim "bias."
As f charity navigator and charity watch are somehow biased, as if factcheck.org is somehow biased. You're just hilariously dumb dude.
Trump could be walked out in cuffs tomorrow and they'd still be claiming it was part of some grand Trumplican plan to finally bring down crooked Hillary and Obummer.
Trump realized he couldn't beat the (((Deep State))) without going into the belly of the beast. It's like when Jesus had to go to hell to 1v1 the devil.
Clintons recieve millions for their foundation and hundreds of thousands personally from Russians at the same time a lucrative Russian uranium deal takes place is a bullshit conspiracy even though everything about it is established fact. Ok.
A) Why would Russia bribe the US for uranium they can't use?
B) No, she had no power over the deal. It's a fantasy you guys came up with because you desperately needed something to throw at Clinton to deflect from daddy.
But Schweizer is wrong when he says that Clinton had “veto power” and “could have stopped the deal.” At best, she could have forced the president to make a decision.
The committee, which is known by its acronym CFIUS, can approve a sale, but it cannot stop a sale. Only the president can do that, and only if the committee recommends or “any member of CFIUS recommends suspension or prohibition of the transaction,” according to guidelines issued by the Treasury Department in December 2008 after the department adopted its final rule a month earlier.
Even the president cannot prohibit a transaction without “credible evidence” that the “foreign interest exercising control might take action that threatens to impair the national security,” according to the regulation.
We emailed Schweizer’s publicist with links to the CRS report and the regulation that governs the committee’s work. Schweizer responded through the publicist: “By veto I mean halt the deal and advance their concerns to the President.” He also noted that Clinton was the only committee member who had a family foundation that received donations from the investors in the uranium deal.
So unless you're willing to claim Russia bribed the entire US government, including a sitting US president - your conspiracy makes no actual sense. It makes no sense in any context.
Russia made the deal because they wanted the uranium in Kazakhstan. A country that is within their sphere of influence.
The charges are sealed under orders from a federal judge, CNN said. Plans were prepared Friday for anyone charged to be taken into custody as soon as Monday, CNN reported, citing the unnamed sources. It is unclear what the charges are, CNN said.
Oh America, where they conveniently wait for the news cycle to start afresh before arresting people.
The source of the leaked emails? 100% chance they already know the email leak came from within the DNC. No need to interview Assange if this is the case.
What makes you think I like Stalin? He's just the best we've got in this topsy-turvy world. His daughter defected to the USA, but that's just her problem. It's not because Russia has been totally fucked up for centuries.
his daughters a retard and her husbands shifty af
Calling people retards... yet not having discovered that apostrophes exist.......
Considering Mueller is legally only allowed to investigate possible collusion between Russia and Trump’s campaign, and anything that directly arises from that, it’s actually literally impossible for this to not be connected to Trump in some way.
It's hard to imagine worst things then the ole photoshop Monkey Months onto The Obamas but Sure people who can't meme are trusted for what is a good meme or not.
Being so mad I don't find this funny you downvote me sure proves how humorous you are :)
And if I really ever use pretend internet points as some sort of internet vigilante with some extra chromosomes, then please, drag me outside and shoot me. You'd be doing me a favor.
I expect they'll start out with someone much further away from Trump, like someone who worked for Manafort. Then they pressure that person to testify against Manafort and so on.
Indictment does not equal guilt. There are plenty of people indicted daily that are later found not guilty.
My guess is that we might see one or two people related to Manafort indicted, maybe even Manfort himself. All parties will later be found not guilty, if anything goes to trial.
The Russia investigation will then wind down or be refocused on Uranium One.
Indicting a couple of people allows Muller and his team to claim a "win" without actually winning anything
I dunno, I think smart investigators are going to be able to find a lot of dirt on Manafort. He's been wheeling and dealing with despots and oligarchs for decades, laundering money through labyrinthine real estate deals, etc. If nothing comes out of all this but this guy's dirt being made public, I'll be happy.
He's accomplished a huge amount, he's going to keep accomplishing, he's going to accomplish so much you'll be saying "No Mr. President, stop accomplishing, we can't take this much accomplishment!" He'll reply "Too bad, we're accomplishing and we are going to keep accomplishing until we Make America Great Again!"
Weird, usually presidents' accomplishments come in the form of actual legislation getting passed. He sure has written a lot of executive orders, I'll give you that. Those will largely just get overturned though.
CNN is pulling it's tactic of reporting a "bombshell" late Friday night. They've done it with almost every anti-Trump exclusive they have had so far. It ensures that the story will dominate a couple of news cycles before anyone is able to refute it. That's the way you pass off questionable reporting as "real news."
It should be noted that all of the stories that CNN has hyped up this way really turn out to be nothing in the grand scheme of things.
That may have been the case prior to 24/7 news channels and the internet but that's not the case anymore.
You release a story late Friday night because it will be picked up and disseminated as news immediately. Meanwhile, everyone in a press office or PR firm has already gone home for the weekend - they can't instantly offer a rebuttal
I realize you won't see this, because you cucked out and deleted your account, but this is advanced retarded. The news is 24/7 and the internet is here, but somehow the press offices and PR firms are just out to lunch all weekend.
280 comments
1 Tank_Frenpenny 2017-10-28
/u/botchlings: "Our Dear Leader Trump told us himself that he isn't investigation and that he didn't collude with the Russians, so that means he didn't. Case closed. He's your president, are you going to believe him, or are you going to believe a fake news commie media outlet like Reuters?"
1 botchlings 2017-10-28
There's still nothing there. The real story is the Hillary Uranium deal.
1 botchlings 2017-10-28
Let's go back and revisit this statement when President Trump is reelected in 2020
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2017-10-28
Talk's cheap. Let's put a $ amount on this wager.
1 botchlings 2017-10-28
$500 says President Trump serves all 4 years of this presidency and if he decides to run again in 2020, he wins.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2017-10-28
Deal
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2017-10-28
Nope. Bet is he wins 2020
1 botchlings 2017-10-28
Nope. The bet is what I just stated:
Take it or leave it.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2017-10-28
Are we calling it a push if he doesn't run in 2020? If so, I'm in.
1 botchlings 2017-10-28
That works for me.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2017-10-28
Deal
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-10-28
This is the same bet I have with him.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2017-10-28
Hopefully the mortgage on his doublewide is already paid.
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-10-28
I'm sure it is. He has a steady IT job and lives in a state with low home prices.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2017-10-28
Good. I've never personally foreclosed on a redneck before.
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-10-28
You're ready to lose $1,000?
1 botchlings 2017-10-28
I'm ready to win $1,000
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-10-28
Wanna double it?
1 botchlings 2017-10-28
Sure, but only if you agree to use a reputable escrow company and you agree to pay any fees related to holding the money in escrow
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-10-28
No. That isn't how bets work. It's a gentleman's agreement.
1 botchlings 2017-10-28
Sorry, we're talking $1,000 here.
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-10-28
Yeah bro that's gambling $1,000 over state lines. Just agree to pay if you lose.
1 Matues49 2017-10-28
So, about that bet of yours...
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-10-28
motherfucker lol
1 Ardvarkeating101 2017-10-28
He deleted his account, what was it?
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-10-28
He and I had a bet on the 2020 election
1 Ardvarkeating101 2017-10-28
No, I mean the username
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-10-28
/u/botchlings RIP
1 Ardvarkeating101 2017-10-28
wait seriously, holy shit!
1 KateUptonsCumback 2017-10-28
Looks like you’ve already lost
1 PM_ME_REDHEAD_BABES 2017-10-28
Only 2020? He is the GEOTUS afterall
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
Trump could be walked out in cuffs tomorrow and they'd still be claiming it was part of some grand Trumplican plan to finally bring down crooked Hillary and Obummer.
1 subpoutine 2017-10-28
that dossier being paid for by the DNC is pretty 🌶 tho
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2017-10-28
Not really. It was paid for by a conservative newspaper first. Dems just bought a copy.
1 subpoutine 2017-10-28
Hmm, I thought it was started as Republican oppo research during the primaries, and then bought up and added to while the DNC was paying out. Is that not the case? (I’ve been getting my news on this from Reddit though, which is always the best move)
1 Assy-McGee 2017-10-28
Up until the "added" part is true
1 botchlings 2017-10-28
That seems to be the case. The majority of the work was done while the DNC was footing the bill
1 HydroDragon 2017-10-28
Facts are facts no matter who paid for them. Money isn't right or left, it's just a function of productivity.
1 botchlings 2017-10-28
They aren't facts. That's the whole point.
1 HydroDragon 2017-10-28
Facts aren't facts? What fucking planet do you live on?
1 trjb 2017-10-28
We live in the time of fake news, we decide our own facts now.
1 botchlings 2017-10-28
As in the the information contained in the report isn't factual.
1 HydroDragon 2017-10-28
What fucking report?
1 botchlings 2017-10-28
Really? Are you that dumb? The dossier that we're talking about here.
1 HydroDragon 2017-10-28
Fuck where's the Clinton Dossier? Did we lose it somewhere, that's the one i want to see.
1 Namenamenamenamena 2017-10-28
Are you purposely being retarded here? He clearly means the dossier
1 HydroDragon 2017-10-28
Are you seriousposting in /r/Drama?
1 Namenamenamenamena 2017-10-28
Lmao look at this retard serious posting all over this thread then he gets called out for being s retard and they're the ones serious posting. Making fun of yor dumb ass isn't serious posting you autist.
1 HydroDragon 2017-10-28
You seem mad bro.
1 Namenamenamenamena 2017-10-28
Did you tell your doctor tell same thing when he told you you are on the spectrum?
1 HydroDragon 2017-10-28
Definitely mad, you know losing control of you emotions in public is sign of emotional immaturity. Gimme some more epithets, maybe one will stick.
1 Namenamenamenamena 2017-10-28
Did you tell your doctor tell same thing when he told you you are on the spectrum?
1 HydroDragon 2017-10-28
Dude more please, one or two more of your ultra witty take downs and you'll be worthy of /r/Drama thread of you own.
1 Namenamenamenamena 2017-10-28
Do you really want to draw more attention to you not knowing what dossier means? You're gonna have to spend a lot of time calling people mad for making fun of you.
1 HydroDragon 2017-10-28
Fuck yea bro, the idiot I was responding to already deleted his account. Maybe you could make me delete mine.
1 Ardvarkeating101 2017-10-28
I think we all know who's making fun of whom here
1 Namenamenamenamena 2017-10-28
You're in the wrong sub if you need to be upset to call someone a retard
1 trjb 2017-10-28
You're right, allegedly they weren't looking at Trump specifically or ties to Russia at all until the DNC started paying for it.
1 HydroDragon 2017-10-28
No, it was always about Trump, one of his primary opponents commissioned it.
1 trjb 2017-10-28
The company that commissioned it (a republican newsgroup) said they began it as research into a bunch of primary candidates. The DNC took it over, refocused on Trump, Steele was hired etc. http://freebeacon.com/uncategorized/fusion-gps-washington-free-beacon/
1 HydroDragon 2017-10-28
Freebacon... that's a hella trusted news source....
1 trjb 2017-10-28
They're admitting it themselves, they were the people who hired them. Unless some big name republican threatened um or something...the fuck? https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/conservative-website-first-paid-fusion-gps-for-trump-research/2017/10/27/ee05c1d6-bb6f-11e7-9e58-e6288544af98_story.html?utm_term=.d1f4e3278961
1 HydroDragon 2017-10-28
Well I'll be damned a conservative tabloid really did get this ball rolling.
1 botchlings 2017-10-28
so is the Clinton Uranium deal
1 subpoutine 2017-10-28
I’m kinda shocked that it’s been so ignored, but then again, my PM is Castro’s bastard.
1 botchlings 2017-10-28
Me too, but the media is definitely in Hillary's court.
1 trjb 2017-10-28
Cause if there is one thing Russia lacks it's uranium to build nukes.
1 Assy-McGee 2017-10-28
in no less than 300 words, please explain the difference
1 HydroDragon 2017-10-28
Clinton never had a uranium deal.
1 ucstruct 2017-10-28
A Canadian company that can't export Uranium from the US. Real caliente.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
Not really, considering multiple aspects of it were confirmed by multiple sources.
As Trump himself said "the content matters, not the source."
1 subpoutine 2017-10-28
I think we can all agree that anyone who at any point thought Wikileaks ever had a noble cause probably deserves to be gassed. I will never understand how adults can defend its mission or the LSD-cult lovechild who runs it.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
Wikileaks was pushing spirit cooking and pizzagate and blatantly taking emails out of context while selling anti-Clinton t-shirts.
The only agenda wikileaks ever had was to destabilize the US and they did that by trying to help Trump.
1 subpoutine 2017-10-28
Assange is truly the Alex Jones of the open-source foreign policy crowd. It’s a shame the US isn’t an iota of the monster Asange portrays it as, because that pasty fuck deserves to be water boarded using his own t-shirt merch.
And they’ve been so fucking blatant about it too. I get that the_Donald crowd is happy to use Russia’s goods against Clinton, but why they seem to like him eludes me.
1 botchlings 2017-10-28
Why did liberals love him back when he was leaking information that damaged President Bush?
1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-10-28
Hell a lot of them are the same people even, or the right anti-Bush turned into anti-Everybody turned into Anti-Hillary the most crowd.
1 qlube 2017-10-28
Only the edgy ones on the internet. All the liberal politicians denounced that stupid shit.
1 respaaaaaj 2017-10-28
the t_d crowd seems to be reallly fond of rapists for some reason
1 nanonan 2017-10-28
Podesta was pushing that stuff, WL just revealed it.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
No he wasn't lol. You people have no clue what you're talking about.
https://www.snopes.com/john-podesta-spirit-cooking/
1 nanonan 2017-10-28
Abramovic is lying through her teeth, which is obvious if you look at what her spirit cooking actually entails. I mean, fucking snopes, really.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
Can you point out what's factually incorrect in that snopes article?
1 nanonan 2017-10-28
Every word out of Abramovics mouth for a start. The problem with snopes is its utter lack of any effort to do a modicum of journalistic investigation.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
Ok, let's try this.
Isolate something from that snopes article and explain in detail why it's wrong, and then provide citation showing it's wrong.
1 nanonan 2017-10-28
Do it yourself you stooge.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
That's exactly what I thought. Thanks.
1 nanonan 2017-10-28
You're welcome.
1 newprofile15 2017-10-28
Wow well I'm convinced, that certainly is some strong evidence that those dastardly dems were turning children into pizzas and eating them.
1 theirritant 2017-10-28
Do you people even contemporary art?
1 nanonan 2017-10-28
No, I'm not a satanist.
1 theirritant 2017-10-28
Are all contemporary artists satanists, or just the female ones?
1 nanonan 2017-10-28
More the ones that perform satanic rituals and call it art.
1 buttermyself 2017-10-28
Thats such a beautiful fart. You should put it back in your butt and save it for later.
1 Assy-McGee 2017-10-28
I think we can all agree that anyone who at any point thought Wikileaks ever had a noble cause probably deserves to be gassed
/u/prince_kropotkin WHERE ARE YOU REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
1 nanonan 2017-10-28
Sure, many aspects of the dossier were publically available information that can easily be verified. Nobody gives a shit about those aspects of the dossier though.
1 wisty 2017-10-28
The problem with the dossier is that all anyone knows about it is the #pissgate claims, which don't have any confirmation.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
I never really took the pissgate thing seriously, just the other parts.
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
lol your russian meddling is a conspiracy mines real!
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
Yes, indictments and grand juries are conspiracies.
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
surely people in the government couldnt lie?!
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
You'll have a deflection for everything, won't you? Anything to pretend daddy wasn't sucking jizz out of Russian cock.
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
im saying theyve lied about everything to do with russia so far so them saying something else isnt really proof of anything
why do you care so much that people are skeptical
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
WHO HAS LIED ABOUT RUSSIA, LOL.
1 YHofSuburbia 2017-10-28
Why do you keep wasting your time with these actual retards?
1 menvaren 2017-10-28
Because he's also a retard?
1 heavenlytoaster 2017-10-28
Big if true.
But not really.
1 glmox 2017-10-28
only way he can look smart
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
lol is that sarcastic wtf
everyone whos accused trump of vague collusion that ranges from flat out treason to russians incidentally buying facebook ads
its a dumb american knee jerk response just like they did after 911 and how they were all scared of random communists before that
the next one is nazis/white supremacy in case you hadnt noticed
americans are easy to trick into thinking some random country or ideology is against them, that way you make them more willing to forgive bullshit their own side does as a "response"
powers that be hate trump ergo trick dumb people into being angry at him because russia
its so predictable
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
Alright, we're going to expose you for how stupid you are.
Define "they."
Show me examples of that "they" lying about Russia. And by "they" you better mean the authorities you mouth-breathing tard.
A) Russia irrefutably had facebook adds
B) The investigation for collusion isn't done yet, how is accusing Trump of collusion a lie?
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
lol sure you are
the establishment, the people that hate trump
because both major parties are basically the same team, its the illusion of choice to keep plebs content and trump fucked it up for them
cant prove a negative genius, as soon as theres any evidence whatsoever for any sort of collusion then you might be able to say something, probably not though because itll be easily debunked like everything else
the fact that theyve moved the goalposts continually as theyve been proven wrong shows theyre lying though
yeah i was being facetious because russians buying facebook ads isnt election meddling in any way shape or form, its an example of how unhinged the dnc has become with their accusations
guess youll find out when nothing happens because of it
the people accusing him lie for a living and theyre lying now
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
Both siderism is the tards figleaf.
"THEY ALL LIED ABOUT TRUMP, I CAN'T PROVE THEY LIED, BUT THEY DID BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THEY DID."
It's called a disinformation campaign, tard.
Yet you can't provide a single example of this lie.
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
im talking about the american political parties you fuckin goof, theyre identical and they work with each other, they dont represent differing ideals
its just old people with lifelong careers pretending to have positions and then doing the opposite once given the chance
also the only people that get angry when you condemn both extremes are extremists
oh no someone criticised antifa! lol foh
no, you literally cant prove a negative, and the burden of proof is on you and the people who claim it happened
id love to hear how you think that works
if youre dumb enough to be swayed by a facebook ad then looking at a bag of chips would probably sway your opinion too, so its probably not worth much in the first place
you dont think theres examples of the media and government lying for a living?
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
The fact you actually believe this displays a deep ignorance of American politics to such an extent I doubt you even have the mental capacity to comprehend how retarded what you just said is.
You accused people of lying, what did they lie about?
LIKE 85% OF THE POPULATION IS DUMB ENOUGH TO BE DUPED BY FACEBOOK ADS.
Do you have any idea how propaganda works? Why do you think Russia invests so heavily in disinformation wars?
No, I'm asking you for examples of the authorities lying about Trump and Russia.
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
nigga american politics is remedial level, its intro to politics for dumb people 101, its not hard to understand
of course not
people believing theyre different is what they rely on, it doesnt mean they are different
russian "hackers", then russian "collusion", and now russian "interference"
remember when the dnc kept claiming russian hackers hacked podestas email, and how russian hackers totally hacked hillarys email
whoops turns out theyre just shit at security and someone leaked it
funnily enough back in the day when bill clinton was under scrutiny for sticking cigars in interns, hillary said it was a "vast right wing conspiracy" and was ridiculous and a witchhunt
but just because she lied about that shit back then using the exact same terminology doesnt mean shed do it again right!
yes id totally be swayed to vote for trump if i was a black man and i was getting targeted advertising for self defense lessons, because that totally makes sense
those crafty kgb operatives amirite
fuck the direct approach, subtly hint at black dudes to get fit and america is theirs
yeah i do actually
generally it has an easy to digest message that spreads easily and doesnt just leave you feeling confused
why dont you go ahead and tell me what messages they spread via facebook
every time theyve made vague accusations
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
Clearly it is pretty hard considering you have no clue what you're talking about.
The voting records clearly SHOW they're different.
Russian hackers = confirmed by multiple intelligence agencies globally, and multiple indie cyber security firms.
Remains to be seen if Trump himself did, but his retard handlers absolutely did.
disinformation campaigns are interference.
So far you're 0-3.
Russia was behind the DNC hack and likely behind the podesta operation as well.
Again, are you just making shit up? The conclusion is that Russia was behind the DNC hack.
Funnily enough, there are countless examples of republican witch hunts, and she was talking about those for the most part. The greeting card conspiracy and benghazi are prime examples.
Why do you think Russia and the US invest so heavily in disinformation campaigns?
When one country doesn't have the hard power to compete with another, why would they not become competent in asymmetrical warfare?
1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-10-28
link that reddit copy pasta liberal /r/Bestof jerk off about the difference between Democrats and Republicans Voting
TIL 1998 is when benghazi happened.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
Are you admitting the voting records are very different?
No, benghazi is just another example.
The greeting card conspiracy, for example:
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/rachel-maddow-mocks-gops-repeat-of-1990s-subpoenas-craze-its-going-to-be-a-long-hot-stupid-summer/
1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-10-28
You don't remember that post it was all the rage?
https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/6zymt7/redditor_proves_that_the_republican_party/
Go Read all the comments that have linked to the original post for more validation of your views
Why would you copy paste me everything knows, were you a baby when it happened is that why you think I don't know about it?
Everyone knows Vince Foster was killed, it's a big part of why so many of the conspiracy theorists supported President Trump.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
I'm not at all surprised to see someone such as yourself pushing the vince foster conspiracy.
1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-10-28
Man like you understand that's obvious bait only a retard would think I was serious about right?
Like come on not everything is about jerking off your rageboner try thinking without being emotional like a women all the time.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
Were you simply pretending to be retarded?
1 KateUptonsCumback 2017-10-28
Vince Foster shot himself cause he was a weak sheep in a city of sharks.
Let it go you fucking idiots.
1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-10-28
lol
lol are you going to use sports metaphors to describe working in politics next
1 KateUptonsCumback 2017-10-28
Are you going to push another Seth Rich conspiracy on /r/drama?
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
lol at believing nondescript "intelligence agencies" without seeing evidence
youre just repeating what youve been told by propaganda, theres no evidence
lol no im not youre wrong about everything
what disinformation do you think they used, do you even know what ads they bought
lol its 100% proven to be a leak from someone on the inside
lol nope they just say it and you eat it up because you hate the other guy
she caused deaths and lied about why, thats pretty low even if you make nothing more of it
you cant just pretend it didnt happen lol
they dont, youre paranoid
a guy bought an ad, thats as deep as it goes and youre grasping at straws just like the dnc
you dont recognise propaganda thats the problem
lol says the muh russia guy
1 Nerdlinger 2017-10-28
Why do retards always drop this falsehood.
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
prove youre not a pedophile, until then ill labour under the assumption that you are
check mate
duh why innocent until guilty as well how do things work where am i
1 Nerdlinger 2017-10-28
That can be demonstrated by doing things like showing person images of children and measuring things like brain activity and blood-flow and comparing it to the general population and to a population of known pedophiles. This can ascertain to a reasonable likelihood whether or not someone responds similar to a pedophile.
The fact you think you dropped a checkmate only reinforces the perception of you being a semi-literate mouth-breathing moron.
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
not really its all pseudo science
and lol at taking it literally you dunce, the point is you literally cant prove a negative
check mate
1 Nerdlinger 2017-10-28
Says the guy displaying zero understanding of science.
Yes, you literally can. For example, proving that no largest prime exists is trivial. But feel free to keep blathering about things you don’t understand, as morons love to do.
You don’t seem to know much about chess either, since you’re doing the equivalent of sacrificing a knight to capture a pawn before you shout “checkmate” here.
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
lol ok, why dont you start studying phrenology too
uh do you even understand what proving a negative means
again, prove youre not a pedophile, here and now
notice how im the one making the accusation and the onus is on me to back up my assertion? nope throw that out the window its your responsibility now
guess youre a pedo unless you can come up with conclusive evidence proving otherwise
fucking cringe dude
imagine being so irrationally angry about a trump presidency you start asserting that its possible to prove a negative lol
1 TipTupKek 2017-10-28
come on dude. there are clearly a large segment of establishment politicians who believe they can use trump for their own ends. trump isn't some brave maverick, he's a tool
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
theres establishment politicians that think they can ride the wave of hate, is that what you mean
john mccain springs to mind
however you want to spin it trumps election threw a wrench in the plans of both the dnc and republicans, and the only people that stand behind him are the ones that think they can sense a turning of tides so to speak
often theyll change their mind halfway through anyway as weve seen
1 TipTupKek 2017-10-28
i agree with all of this except it's not a matter of them wanting to "ride the tide" as much as it is "hey, this shit is just gonna pass eventually, so let's abuse it as much as we can"
like almost all (not literally all but almost all) of what trump has actually done, as opposed to what he's just said he'll do, has helped ratfuck scum like ted cruz, marco rubio, etc. it's just the same old shit. it's nothing different to them. it's not jeb bush, sure, but it's still within the range of what a further-right republican would do normally.
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
theyre pretty well split right now though
they either think trump will go down, in which case theyll shit on him and his policy hoping to be able to say "i told you so" afterwards (this is what all the dnc and most of the republicans are doing)
or they have a suspicion that trump is right, in which case they suck up to him and get behind him early so theyre in a good position to take over once the "swamp" has been ousted
most dont have the conviction to stick around too long in option 2 as weve seen over the past year, because they tend to panic every time theres some new apparent scandal
its also the same thing obama did for 8 years though thats what i dont get
obama did a travel ban, was at war every day during his terms, bombed innumerable people, didnt close guantanamo, etc etc
politicians lie and theyre all the same, i guarantee if hillary won shed do the exact same but with zero transparency
1 TipTupKek 2017-10-28
i think there would be some major differences (more aggressive towards russia, bad imo, less dumb shit wrt environmental regulations, good imo) but yes, the trump admin is just another presidential admin. that's my point. he's not some anti-globalist for the people hero, he's just a dumbfuck
also the trump admin is not transparent whatsoever so that would not be a change
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
yeah thats the crux of it
the russia stuff was the biggest concern to me because my country always follows america to war
but the thing is he kinda is, in as far as he pisses the people considered globalists off something crazy
something hes doing is making them irrationally angry and to a lot of people thats the best they can do to stick it to them
cmon man have you read his twitter
meanwhile hillary "forgets" and destroys evidence constantly, did you ever see her "wipe it with a cloth" interview
shes just visibly untrustworthy
1 glmox 2017-10-28
wow, you actually are unironically mentally handicapped, arent you?
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
asking to prove an assertion is a lie is asking to prove a negative, because its asking me to prove that something isnt true
hope this helps, i know multiple negatives can get confusing
1 glmox 2017-10-28
you just keep doubling down
fucking incredible
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
thats what happens when im right, this isnt complicated
pretending to be exasperated isnt a real response either
1 KateUptonsCumback 2017-10-28
Trump is the establishment you fucking mong. He’s the president of the United States.
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
lol thats a hilariously simplistic and childish and wrong understanding of how things work
1 KateUptonsCumback 2017-10-28
The only thing hilarious is the fact that you think the “establishment” is after the president of the United States.
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
fucking lol have you not watched the news in a year and a half
omg trump hates women omg trump hates Gold Star Families omg trump is racist omg trump is sexist lets march against trump guys were all part of the resistance
also the republicans fucking hate him did you not watch the primaries
they all laughed until he won
1 KateUptonsCumback 2017-10-28
That’s called being critical of the POTUS you giant fucking retard. Sorry you literally shake with anger when some criticizes your fucking waifu but news flash this is how It’s always been for the president.
At the end of the day tho the guy in control of the establishment is the fucking POTUS.
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
no its called making shit up because youre pissed off an outsider took your job
yeah man im the angry one
funny how even bush didnt get this much despite being far worse huh
lol at you not knowing words
1 KateUptonsCumback 2017-10-28
I’m sorry but that is just filled with stupidity. Also you’re a fucking bogan so you can end this by fucking right off Kangaroo jack.
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
lol are you seriously copying the jew gimmick guy by calling me a bogan, thats pretty low effort
im like the opposite to a bogan except not lebanese
1 KateUptonsCumback 2017-10-28
You’ve given me no reason to believe you bogan
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
no worries stereotypical ranch cowboy
1 KateUptonsCumback 2017-10-28
Oh honey
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
i thought we were throwing around inaccurate stereotypes im sorry
although you might be doing "tumblr woman" now so not sure please clarify
1 KateUptonsCumback 2017-10-28
Oh bless your heart
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
ok confirmed youre doing bitter lonely tumblr cat woman now this is hard to keep up with
1 KateUptonsCumback 2017-10-28
Oh bby
1 Ardvarkeating101 2017-10-28
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
yep he totally has power over everyone, thats why they can veto him and stall and obstruct for months on end for something as simple as immigration restriction
1 Ardvarkeating101 2017-10-28
I said he has the powers of a president, not the power to piss on the constitution
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
no you said he was "the establishment", instead of both parties and the billionaires that own the media and every letter agency put together
trump destroyed the establishments plans for hillary, thats why they attack him
hes an outsider in politics, how is that not obvious
1 Ardvarkeating101 2017-10-28
First, if he was an outsider going against the establishment he wouldn't be putting Wall Street execs on his fucking cabinet
1 TraurigAberWahr 2017-10-28
sounds like you have a very simplistic idea of politics
1 Ardvarkeating101 2017-10-28
Ah, changing the goal posts, classic establishment move
1 TraurigAberWahr 2017-10-28
uhh no
he has money. that's not the same thing
1 KateUptonsCumback 2017-10-28
He is the president. How fucking T H I C C is your skull?
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
if he was the establishment the rest of the establishment would probably hate him a bit less
thats the thing about them, theyre established as a group
1 TraurigAberWahr 2017-10-28
they view the current president basically as an usurper. because he didn't win by grace of the establishment, without their support and against their wishes.
1 heavenlytoaster 2017-10-28
They hate us for our freedom.
Who is they?
A. Muslims B. Russians C. Other
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
that shit still cracks me up, who hates freedom
1 Redactor0 2017-10-28
How long have the evil Americans been lying about Russian espionage? Do you also think the Rosenbergs got framed, pinko?
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
since the 80s
1 Redactor0 2017-10-28
PINKO CONFIRMED! /u/captainpriapism lays to rest any doubts that he loves communism and wishes he could have been the wife on Bernie Sanders' Russian honeymoon.
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
nah american history x curb stomp actual communists just not pretend ones that the cia makes up to trick dumb segments of their population
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2017-10-28
lol Aussie LARPer
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
i know youve got this weird extra jewish gimmick going right now but not everyone is larping
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2017-10-28
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
1 LemonScore 2017-10-28
Does your psychotherapist know that you're typing what he's said to you into your reddit comments?
1 LemonScore 2017-10-28
Way to dodge the point.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
What point was dodged?
1 LemonScore 2017-10-28
He's pointing out the hypocrisy of you taking the Trump-Russia collusion conspiracy seriously whilst ignoring the Clinton-uranium accusations as a conspiracy theory.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
One has grand juries and charges being filed.
The other is a delusional conspiracy people came up with to deflect away from daddy.
In what universe do you think these things are on equal footing?
1 LemonScore 2017-10-28
Yeah, every criminal investigation involves courts. We'll see whether any charges actually stick. Given that multiple investigations from various government agencies have come to nothing, I'm looking forward to even more reeeeeeeeeeeeeeing from you and the other leftists as this new bullshit falls to pieces.
lol, the Clinton Foundation is crooked as fuck, and very openly so. Everyone knows that they stole millions in aid to Haiti. Taking bribes to sell uranium is the least of the shit they're involved with.
By "people" you mean government officials on the same level of those investigating Trump, right?
It will make my year when it's revealed that the Clintons are the ones who "colluded with Russia" and their political legacy is ripped to pieces. Can you feel it, pizzashill? A sense of impending misery?
1 Strictlybutters 2017-10-28
u/botchlings isn't dead!
1 LemonScore 2017-10-28
He died for our cringe :(
But he will rise again.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
Well, ignoring the fact no uranium was sold to Russia, because, you know, Russia has no ability to export uranium from the united states, and also ignoring the fact Clinton had no power over the deal on any level:
https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings-and-metrics/bill-hillary-chelsea-clinton-foundation/478
2013 - rating "A"' '89% of funding went to charity programs'
2012 - rating "A+" '90% of funding went to charity programs'
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=16680
Overall Score: 95/100
Financial 98/100
Accountability & Transparency 93/100
Funny.
No, the conspiracy did not come from them and nothing in that article last week said anything about Hillary Clinton, they found out Russia had been bribing some trucking company in the US and the article then used that to imply it was somehow connected to Clinton.
The origin of the conspiracy is "Clinton cash" and the author has lied multiple times:
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/no-veto-power-for-clinton-on-uranium-deal/
I mean, if you didn't just expose the fact you're a highly misinformed idiot, I might care what you think.
1 LemonScore 2017-10-28
You're right, because the United States' relationship with Russia hit an iceberg when they invaded Ukrainian and made Obama look like a limp-wristed fool.
What Russia did do was make money from transporting Uranium around the US by using a company controlled by the Russian government and by utilizing bribes and racketeering.Something that isn't fucking disputable because the FBI put a guy in jail for four years over it (Vadim Mikerin):
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-10-18/russian-money-talks-america-was-all-ears
The FBI also seems to think that the Russians were using companies in the US to route money to the Clinton Foundation:
But, wow: the FBI is sure going to look dumb when you take the stand and inform them that the secretary of state has no power at all and that she and her husband and daughter had no influence over the Democratic party!
All the time and effort they're wasting setting up investigations and finding and protecting informants, when all they really needed was a dismissive comment from /u/pizzashill to explain that they were wasting their time!
Really? Because the FBI started their investigation long before that book was published.
And are you seriously saying that the FBI is using that book as a source for their investigation, are you fucking dumb enough that you think people will fall for this shit?
Cite Snopes and Shareblue, too, they're just as unbiased. Hell, why not just cite Clinton herself saying that the accusations are "baloney," it's an open and shut case.
Also, those statistics "proving" that donations from the Clinton Foundation mostly go to "charity programs" are also lies. The truth is that the Clinton Foundation, and other entities run by the Clintons, don't divulge how their donations are spent and actively restrict people from seeing their financial data:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-clinton-foundations-legacy-in-haiti-haitians_us_57f604f9e4b087a29a5486fd
To any neutral person watching this back-and-forth between myself and pizzashill: this is what he does.
First, he tells blatant, stupid lies but fills his posts with biased links and paragraphs of text (that usually have fucking nothing relevant to what he's even trying to prove) that make what he's saying look legit to anyone that isn't willing to spend at least an hour reading up on this shit themselves (most people).
Then he relies on the fact that most of us just can't be bothered debunking his bullshit because he's a slimy individual that constantly misdirects and draws out the argument until people give up and stop responding,, thus making it seem like no one can dispute his "facts" and that he must be correct.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
No, because they never had the right to export uranium from the united states for obvious reasons:
http://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/russia-can-t-export-wyoming-uranium-nuclear-regulators-tell-barrasso/article_5018f8f8-c59a-5e1b-9401-c019cd6a8625.html
This literally hoop you're trying to jump through to avoid admitting you fell for blatant propaganda isn't going to fly.
You're a moron dude.
A) That company isn't related to the uranium one deal.
B) The amount of money Russia would make from something like this is trivial, that wasn't the point of the uranium one deal.
Uranium one had holdings in Kazakhstan, a country already in the Russian sphere of influence. THAT was what Russia was after.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2017/10/27/claims-of-clinton-russia-uranium-scandal-are-a-real-empty-barrel/#7ddb91757b55
The united states doesn't even produce much:
1
No they fucking didn't. The FBI is also riddled with right-wing mongoloids too, they literally tried to use Clinton cash:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/11/fbi-investigation-clinton-foundation-peter-schweizer-breitbart
Can you point out what in that factcheck.org article is factually incorrect?
No, they aren't. This tactic you're trying to use where you hand-wave every source that says you're wrong isn't going to fly outside of the Donald.
The Hati thing is bullshit too. If you want an actual read about Haiti, from a credible source, from someone that was actually there? Here you go:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/09/the_truth_about_the_clintons_and_haiti.html
Dismantle retards using facts?
You didn't debunk anything. You got fucking dismantled because you're an unedcuated ignorant fucking clown with no clue what you're talking about.
You tried to claim Russia was turning a profit from trucking uranium around the US because you didn't even know what they were after in the deal.
You're just a really dumb person dude. You're repeating Breitbart talking points you've never bothered to fact check, and then when you get put in the dirt you claim "bias."
As f charity navigator and charity watch are somehow biased, as if factcheck.org is somehow biased. You're just hilariously dumb dude.
1 ComedicSans 2017-10-28
Not even wrong.
1 better_bot 2017-10-28
Trump realized he couldn't beat the (((Deep State))) without going into the belly of the beast. It's like when Jesus had to go to hell to 1v1 the devil.
1 LemonScore 2017-10-28
pizzashill, when nothing meaningful comes of this, like with every other leftist-crafted Trump "scandal", will you keep yourself safe?
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
Uh, if 2 people are being charged, something already came of it broski.
1 Strictlybutters 2017-10-28
It must be really hard being this retarded.
1 nanonan 2017-10-28
Clintons recieve millions for their foundation and hundreds of thousands personally from Russians at the same time a lucrative Russian uranium deal takes place is a bullshit conspiracy even though everything about it is established fact. Ok.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
Let's see if we can walk you out of this.
A) Does Russia have the ability to export uranium out of the united states?
B) Did Hillary Clinton have any power over this deal?
1 nanonan 2017-10-28
No and yes. If you think she had no influence you are stupider than I thought.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
A) Why would Russia bribe the US for uranium they can't use?
B) No, she had no power over the deal. It's a fantasy you guys came up with because you desperately needed something to throw at Clinton to deflect from daddy.
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/no-veto-power-for-clinton-on-uranium-deal/
So unless you're willing to claim Russia bribed the entire US government, including a sitting US president - your conspiracy makes no actual sense. It makes no sense in any context.
Russia made the deal because they wanted the uranium in Kazakhstan. A country that is within their sphere of influence.
1 nanonan 2017-10-28
So she sat on the commitee approving the deal and you think she had no influence on the outcome. Preposterous.
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
Listen to me - the committee doesn't do shit. It literally can't even stop deals, it's worthless.
Go look at how many deals it's questioned in since the 1980s.
The entire thing is a fantasy you guys came up with, nothing more. It makes no sense on any level.
The fact Clinton had no power over the deal isn't even the most damning argument against your conspiracy.
It's the fact Russia can't fucking export uranium out of America so bribing anyone for the deal is fucking pointless.
1 HasAnArchmageFetish 2017-10-28
So the Secretary of State has 0 influence on Americas dealings with foreign countries?
1 SpotNL 2017-10-28
So it went from her unilaterally deciding to exerting influence (whatever that looks like).
1 pizzashill 2017-10-28
The secretary of state has zero ability to stop a deal like this:
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/no-veto-power-for-clinton-on-uranium-deal/
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2017-10-28
Get ready to move those goal posts, boys!
1 MayoIsSpicy 2017-10-28
They're already on wheels my dude!
1 subpoutine 2017-10-28
Oh America, where they conveniently wait for the news cycle to start afresh before arresting people.
1 trjb 2017-10-28
Bigly ratings.
1 glmox 2017-10-28
all in the game fam
1 better_bot 2017-10-28
Gotta give em a few days off to fuck up a little more.
1 shallowm 2017-10-28
The law only works on business days, from 9 am to 5 pm.
1 Oh_hamburgers_ 2017-10-28
Weird that they still haven't interviewed Assange even though he told them he would reveal his source.
1 botchlings 2017-10-28
The source of the leaked emails? 100% chance they already know the email leak came from within the DNC. No need to interview Assange if this is the case.
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-10-28
100% chance they already know the email leak came from within the DNC.
1 trjb 2017-10-28
His name was Seti Rich, he was an alien, and he died for your freedom.
1 newprofile15 2017-10-28
You're referring to Seth Rogen right?
1 grep_var_log 2017-10-28
Seth Rich or Die Trying.
1 Canvasch 2017-10-28
Nah dude, remember when he said he would turn himself in when Chelsea Manning was released? She was released, so now he's in prison.
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
lol you guys are so badly informed its like r politics in here
its literally impossible for this to have anything to do with trump fyi
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2017-10-28
It's pathetic watching you try to suck Daddy's cock from across the Pacific.
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
anyone who gets angry about trump is beneath me so im not particularly worried about the lame insults tbh
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2017-10-28
You're a bogan. Nothing is beneath you, fam
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
says the jew
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2017-10-28
That's adorable that you think that's insulting
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
i read that you should shirk back and recoil at the mere mention of it, while other insults run off you like water off a ducks back
cant remember where the quote comes from
1 Tank_Frenpenny 2017-10-28
like (((Ivanka))) and (((Kuschner)))?
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
why does everyone think i like trump just because i dont spaz out like a mong about everything he does
his daughters a retard and her husbands shifty af (coincidentally)
but hes the best theyve got and saying that makes people really angry so bonus
1 Redactor0 2017-10-28
Typical pinko defense.
Calling people retards... yet not having discovered that apostrophes exist.......
🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
lol you havent been here long if youre calling me a communist
1 Tank_Frenpenny 2017-10-28
Trump can seemingly do no wrong in your mind, eh?
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
ill let you in on a secret, people cry about every president because theyre all shit including trump
he hasnt even deported mexicans or banned abortion or anything else hilarious
if you get angry at him specifically then u dumb tbh, stop taking the news so seriously
1 qlube 2017-10-28
Considering Mueller is legally only allowed to investigate possible collusion between Russia and Trump’s campaign, and anything that directly arises from that, it’s actually literally impossible for this to not be connected to Trump in some way.
1 captainpriapism 2017-10-28
uh might want to double check that
1 qlube 2017-10-28
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/17/us/politics/document-Robert-Mueller-Special-Counsel-Russia.html
1 Etra 2017-10-28
https://i.redd.it/jn89xj3vdwmz.jpg
https://i.redd.it/fmxpbhav5bnz.jpg
https://imgur.com/XuiHL2t
1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-10-28
Jesus christ the Left can't meme what is this garbage.
Not even changing the Hurricane on his desk to the graph
1 MrAlphonzo 2017-10-28
I've peaked into T_D before.
I'd take this over the pathetic excuse of shitposting on that sub anyday.
1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-10-28
It's hard to imagine worst things then the ole photoshop Monkey Months onto The Obamas but Sure people who can't meme are trusted for what is a good meme or not.
Being so mad I don't find this funny you downvote me sure proves how humorous you are :)
1 MrAlphonzo 2017-10-28
You lost me about five words in.
And if I really ever use pretend internet points as some sort of internet vigilante with some extra chromosomes, then please, drag me outside and shoot me. You'd be doing me a favor.
1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-10-28
> I Don't care so much i'm going to write an essay about how much I don't care
No wonder you think these memes are funny
1 IsADragon 2017-10-28
Bitch a paragraph is not an essay, did you even go to school?
1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-10-28
tldr you lost me about 5 words in
1 DPRK_Patriot 2017-10-28
1 hour old
7 upvotes
60 comments
🍿
1 aliceunknown 2017-10-28
Who do you guys think it is? I'm thinking Kushner bc there's so much shit on him and he doesn't know DC well enough to cover his tracks.
1 Redactor0 2017-10-28
I expect they'll start out with someone much further away from Trump, like someone who worked for Manafort. Then they pressure that person to testify against Manafort and so on.
1 botchlings 2017-10-28
Indictment does not equal guilt. There are plenty of people indicted daily that are later found not guilty.
My guess is that we might see one or two people related to Manafort indicted, maybe even Manfort himself. All parties will later be found not guilty, if anything goes to trial.
The Russia investigation will then wind down or be refocused on Uranium One.
Indicting a couple of people allows Muller and his team to claim a "win" without actually winning anything
1 better_bot 2017-10-28
"There are no tanks in Baghdad."
1 parameciidae 2017-10-28
I dunno, I think smart investigators are going to be able to find a lot of dirt on Manafort. He's been wheeling and dealing with despots and oligarchs for decades, laundering money through labyrinthine real estate deals, etc. If nothing comes out of all this but this guy's dirt being made public, I'll be happy.
1 trjb 2017-10-28
And his phone was tapped in 2014 and again in 2016, Manafort is fucked.
1 nanonan 2017-10-28
For maximum drama it should be Hilldawg herself.
1 better_bot 2017-10-28
Is this apart of your "meme-magic"? Like if you keep repeating your wish it'll come true?
1 nanonan 2017-10-28
It worked once didn't it?
1 better_bot 2017-10-28
So I take it you aren't applying your meme-magic to actually accomplishing anything.
1 nanonan 2017-10-28
He's accomplished a huge amount, he's going to keep accomplishing, he's going to accomplish so much you'll be saying "No Mr. President, stop accomplishing, we can't take this much accomplishment!" He'll reply "Too bad, we're accomplishing and we are going to keep accomplishing until we Make America Great Again!"
1 better_bot 2017-10-28
Weird, usually presidents' accomplishments come in the form of actual legislation getting passed. He sure has written a lot of executive orders, I'll give you that. Those will largely just get overturned though.
1 nanonan 2017-10-28
Could you describe how this would occur? Oh do you mean years from now after his eight year reign?
1 better_bot 2017-10-28
How's he gonna run for a second term when he's busy dying in prison?
1 nanonan 2017-10-28
Keep on dreaming, I'm unsure why you are so enthusiastic about getting President Pence but whatever.
1 better_bot 2017-10-28
Because a Pence presidency would be disastrous for America, absolutely killing the Republican brand.
Have fun riding that plane into the ground :)
1 nanonan 2017-10-28
Well it's not ever going to happen, because the God Emperor is infalliable. How is he going to get locked up exactly?
1 heavenlytoaster 2017-10-28
Why would that stop him?
1 ProphetRith 2017-10-28
Got to be manafort
1 backltrack 2017-10-28
I fucking hope it's Kushner. Conniving piece of shit. Or one of Trump's retard sons.
1 youcanteatbullets 2017-10-28
I'm guessing Manafort.
1 botchlings 2017-10-28
CNN is pulling it's tactic of reporting a "bombshell" late Friday night. They've done it with almost every anti-Trump exclusive they have had so far. It ensures that the story will dominate a couple of news cycles before anyone is able to refute it. That's the way you pass off questionable reporting as "real news."
It should be noted that all of the stories that CNN has hyped up this way really turn out to be nothing in the grand scheme of things.
1 ArtemisFoal 2017-10-28
lol. cry more.
1 Tank_Frenpenny 2017-10-28
cried so much that he deleted
1 TraurigAberWahr 2017-10-28
ok you can cry all you want, but is it not true?
1 Redactor0 2017-10-28
That's exactly the opposite of how the news cycle works. That's why whenever anyone has to admit something embarrassing they do it on a Friday night.
1 botchlings 2017-10-28
That may have been the case prior to 24/7 news channels and the internet but that's not the case anymore.
You release a story late Friday night because it will be picked up and disseminated as news immediately. Meanwhile, everyone in a press office or PR firm has already gone home for the weekend - they can't instantly offer a rebuttal
1 better_bot 2017-10-28
I realize you won't see this, because you cucked out and deleted your account, but this is advanced retarded. The news is 24/7 and the internet is here, but somehow the press offices and PR firms are just out to lunch all weekend.
FFS
1 TraurigAberWahr 2017-10-28
the advantage is not that PR firms clock out on friday afternoon.
the advantage is that fewer newsworthy things happen on weekends, which makes it easier to keep a "scandal" in the news cycle a little longer.
1 ahbslldud 2017-10-28
I know you have a few chromosomes too many and all, but you do know that Reuters is not CNN right?
1 botchlings 2017-10-28
Are you too dumb to notice that everything in the Reuters article is based off of the CNN report? Here, let me help you...
Hell, it's actually in the headline:
1 JohnTheOrc 2017-10-28
Reuters is confirming it now
1 Silented 2017-10-28
Do you think the retard finally decided to keep himself safe?
1 JohnTheOrc 2017-10-28
Obviously he hanged himself rather than face humiliation at the hands of ShariaBlue. Put his name on the wall.
1 JohnTheOrc 2017-10-28
Being made a fool of by botchlings has to be embarrassing, huh?
1 ahbslldud 2017-10-28
posting on /r/drama
having shame
pick one and only one
1 JohnTheOrc 2017-10-28
Doesn't matter anyway. Last man standing wins.
1 Matues49 2017-10-28
u/botchlings on suicide watch
1 JohnTheOrc 2017-10-28
Not anymore. RIP
1 tyuijvhvhcfcjf 2017-10-28
And to think I had just today seen him living his life to its fullest going on about Trump.
You will be missed, [deleted].
1 Tank_Frenpenny 2017-10-28
I doubt he deleted his account, he just got shadowbanned.
1 ComedicSans 2017-10-28
Nostra-fucking-damus here, folks.
1 Hammer_of_goofiness 2017-10-28
collusion is not a crime
i did hear john podesta is being charged with gross misuse of a pizzeria, though