Allah hates you because you're a communist, unfortunately.
How can you even be a communist Muslim? If your beliefs actually lined up with Islamic scripture, most communists would consider you a reactionary. You're already seeing the homophobia present in that thread, and that's pretty common amongst most Muslims. The same goes for transphobia. If a Christian said those things, they'd (rightfully) be labeled as reactionaries. But Islam is a brown people religion, so it's okay!
Seeing that you're a convert, I have no idea if you know how common those sentiments are, but in your average Muslim community, you'll encounter them left and right.
I kind of respect your effort to change their minds by bringing up a sensible opinion, but these opinions are deeply ingrained in most Muslims, and the scripture just works against you.
By the way, I saw your little tiff with /u/BedouinMau, you should know that he's a gay communist Muslim as well (I had to recite المعوذات after writing that). Shouldn't you guys be friends?
the funny thing is these are muslims who use reddit in english and probably skew young so they are some of the most liberal ones you can most likely find.
Why do people keep saying this? A lot of Muslims speak English, even in Asia and Africa. Just because you speak English doesn't mean you're liberal, how retarded are you? And someone dedicating time to posting on a religious forum is likely to be a lot more religious than someone who isn't. There's probably tons of Muslims on reddit who don't comment in r/Islam, especially because of its reputation. I'd say that sub is a lot less liberal than most Muslims I've met who are in reddit's demographic.
Reddit is in the top 10 most visited sites in the world; most people don't vote and comment on things and those who do, don't necessarily contribute to liberal/left American politics subs like r/politics, r/lsc or whatever. Reddit also leans pretty heavily conservative on a lot of issues even on the defaults/regional subs, take r/news, r/worldnews, r/europe, or r/canada as examples. So I don't agree that using reddit means you're liberal. All it means is that you visit one of the most popular sites in the world.
So I don't agree that using reddit means you're liberal.
Funny way to put it then. And at this point there’s no real data. Ive had far more people agree with me than not on this point, but it’s all anecdotes and i dont care enough to painstakingly make my case. Cheers
Ya! why dont i just read between the lines on an internet comment with little context, without knowing who the other person is, and sort out what is or isnt sarcasm without a tone of voice.
We were talking about your comment, were we not? So I was replying to your comment, which should have tipped you off about the context, considering you wrote it.
Your comment “So I don't agree that using reddit means you're liberal.” Implies that an individual is liberal for using reddit, or leans liberal. Im saying that as a population, you’ll simply have more liberals. You can still have conservatives obviously. Maybe you understand that concept, but nothing you said tipped me off to that. And considering your response now, you may still not.
Is your suggestion that reddit users in general lean liberal? Or the general population of the world leans liberal? Doesn't matter, the latter is obviously incorrect and I already told you that I disagree with the former.
Moderate Islam doesn't mean anything - practically all Muslims consider themselves to be practising moderate Islam. I met one bloke who claimed to be moderate because he wanted an ISIS-like state, but unlike ISIS he wants it to be established in a coup d'etat instead of through open war.
Fun fact: many Muslims say it's only gay if you're the bottom. There have been cases of Turkish police officers raping gay rights activists for being gay.
When are you going to kill my faggot Hanafi ass? Or is it ok to be a part of the gay commie ummah if I'm saving my bussy for big daddy Allah? I'm assuming you hate me anyways for not being a filthy Wahabbi.
My grandma (SWT) taught me what Pashtuns consider to be conservative Islam and told me there are 4 sources of Islamic knowledge: Literal verses in the Koran, philosophy, allegorical verses in the Koran and Hadith, ordered by importance:
A. No literal verses in the Quran on being gay, so whether someone is gay or not can't be a major theological issue.
B. Philosophy and logic says being a faggot doesn't hurt anyone, so it ain't haram.
C. Lut can be interpreted to be about sucking dicks. It could also be about rape, bisexuals cheating on their wives and many other things. Luckily Daddy Allah says not to worry about it, as those who judge others based on their own interpretation of the Koran (e.g. you) are filthy liars:
It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them]. And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah . But those firm in knowledge say, "We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord." And no one will be reminded except those of understanding. (Surah 3:7)
D. Old conservative Bibi Jan (that's grandma for the kuffar) said the following: All Hadith either A) state something that is already in the Koran, B) is so irrelevant in the eyes of big Daddy that it ain't included in the holy Koran or C) are false lies spread filthy people who will burn in Jahannam.
You'll obviously burn in Jahannam for that username as well - bars aren't very halal and will not tolerated in the gay communist ummah.
And STD's have never spread through heterosexual sex? And who said homosexuality and MSM are the same thing? There is a difference between willingly accepting the risk of getting an STD from sex, and being a victim of something you have no control over.
How do you expect me to take you people's so called theological views seriously, when you can't even comment on or use any reliable theological sources or logical arguments?
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1 shallowm 2017-11-15
/u/Bab5crusade
Allah hates you because you're a communist, unfortunately.
How can you even be a communist Muslim? If your beliefs actually lined up with Islamic scripture, most communists would consider you a reactionary. You're already seeing the homophobia present in that thread, and that's pretty common amongst most Muslims. The same goes for transphobia. If a Christian said those things, they'd (rightfully) be labeled as reactionaries. But Islam is a brown people religion, so it's okay!
Seeing that you're a convert, I have no idea if you know how common those sentiments are, but in your average Muslim community, you'll encounter them left and right.
I kind of respect your effort to change their minds by bringing up a sensible opinion, but these opinions are deeply ingrained in most Muslims, and the scripture just works against you.
By the way, I saw your little tiff with /u/BedouinMau, you should know that he's a gay communist Muslim as well (I had to recite المعوذات after writing that). Shouldn't you guys be friends?
1 lordlorb 2017-11-15
http://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/120523120531-osama-bin-laden-super-169.jpg Come on man this guy is clearly just a white person with a light tan.
1 Trapsarntgay1 2017-11-15
>gay muslim communist
Forget the helicopter, we're gonna need the McNukes for /u/Bab5crusade
1 slippyducky 2017-11-15
Omg, they're real? As a social democratic Muslim gayboi, I thought I was the closest thing to a gay communist Muslim.
1 shallowm 2017-11-15
He's not the gay communist Muslim, he's just a communist Muslim. It's the other guy that's a gay communist Muslim.
1 slippyducky 2017-11-15
The kaffir even has Crusade in his name.
1 Protect_Me 2017-11-15
Reddit: Most Muslims are not homophobic, there's just a few bad apples!
/r/islam: I hate gays because my lord tells me to
1 MegaSeedsInYourBum 2017-11-15
But you know they whack it to lesbian porn.
1 lefedorasir 2017-11-15
Lesbians dont count as homos fam
1 GARBAGE_MACHINE 2017-11-15
Man on bussy porn
1 moondoggy101 2017-11-15
the funny thing is these are muslims who use reddit in english and probably skew young so they are some of the most liberal ones you can most likely find.
1 AshrifSecateur 2017-11-15
May or may not be true. You could also say someone who goes on a religious subreddit is likely to be religious.
1 YHofSuburbia 2017-11-15
Why do people keep saying this? A lot of Muslims speak English, even in Asia and Africa. Just because you speak English doesn't mean you're liberal, how retarded are you? And someone dedicating time to posting on a religious forum is likely to be a lot more religious than someone who isn't. There's probably tons of Muslims on reddit who don't comment in r/Islam, especially because of its reputation. I'd say that sub is a lot less liberal than most Muslims I've met who are in reddit's demographic.
1 hwangerbanger 2017-11-15
But then using reddit itself leans liberal
1 YHofSuburbia 2017-11-15
Reddit is in the top 10 most visited sites in the world; most people don't vote and comment on things and those who do, don't necessarily contribute to liberal/left American politics subs like r/politics, r/lsc or whatever. Reddit also leans pretty heavily conservative on a lot of issues even on the defaults/regional subs, take r/news, r/worldnews, r/europe, or r/canada as examples. So I don't agree that using reddit means you're liberal. All it means is that you visit one of the most popular sites in the world.
1 hwangerbanger 2017-11-15
That’s why i said lean. It’s a tendency. Of course there’s great variety
1 YHofSuburbia 2017-11-15
Yes I know what you said and I'm disagreeing
1 hwangerbanger 2017-11-15
Funny way to put it then. And at this point there’s no real data. Ive had far more people agree with me than not on this point, but it’s all anecdotes and i dont care enough to painstakingly make my case. Cheers
1 YHofSuburbia 2017-11-15
Read between the lines. Must I spell everything out for you? "So I don't agree that using reddit means you're liberal [leaning]." Christ.
1 hwangerbanger 2017-11-15
Ya! why dont i just read between the lines on an internet comment with little context, without knowing who the other person is, and sort out what is or isnt sarcasm without a tone of voice.
1 YHofSuburbia 2017-11-15
We were talking about your comment, were we not? So I was replying to your comment, which should have tipped you off about the context, considering you wrote it.
1 hwangerbanger 2017-11-15
Your comment “So I don't agree that using reddit means you're liberal.” Implies that an individual is liberal for using reddit, or leans liberal. Im saying that as a population, you’ll simply have more liberals. You can still have conservatives obviously. Maybe you understand that concept, but nothing you said tipped me off to that. And considering your response now, you may still not.
1 YHofSuburbia 2017-11-15
Is your suggestion that reddit users in general lean liberal? Or the general population of the world leans liberal? Doesn't matter, the latter is obviously incorrect and I already told you that I disagree with the former.
1 BannaHamHock 2017-11-15
You'd have to be a bonafide retard to disagree with the statement that Reddit leans liberal
1 YHofSuburbia 2017-11-15
In some ways, yes; in others, no way.
1 BannaHamHock 2017-11-15
Do you not understand the concept of a generalization?
1 YHofSuburbia 2017-11-15
Here's where that memequote about generalizing so much that it doesn't add to the conversation would come in handy.
1 BannaHamHock 2017-11-15
So you are actually retarded, then. Good to know.
1 YHofSuburbia 2017-11-15
Please don't call me retarded. It really hurts my feelings.
1 BannaHamHock 2017-11-15
Sorry I try not to lash out but my rage knows no bounds
1 YHofSuburbia 2017-11-15
It's OK, I forgive you. In the future, please remember words have effects too, and keep yourself safe 🙂
1 Googlaloo 2017-11-15
You lost any credibility by saying r/news leans conservative
1 OdinSQL 2017-11-15
Number 8 to be exact
https://monithor.io/en/site-list/alexa-top-million/10/1/top.html
1 slippyducky 2017-11-15
That doesn't mean conservative subs like The Donald can't exist.
1 hwangerbanger 2017-11-15
Yes i know
1 OdinSQL 2017-11-15
A very large portion of Muslims are illiterate in any language.
1 OldOrder 2017-11-15
People that post in religious subs are also likely to be zealots.
1 OdinSQL 2017-11-15
Being a zealot is a mandatory part of Islam.
1 MelanoidNation 2017-11-15
And they're the 'moderates'
1 slippyducky 2017-11-15
Moderate Islam doesn't mean anything - practically all Muslims consider themselves to be practising moderate Islam. I met one bloke who claimed to be moderate because he wanted an ISIS-like state, but unlike ISIS he wants it to be established in a coup d'etat instead of through open war.
1 BIknkbtKitNwniS 2017-11-15
"Women should dress modestly"
"Misogynist!"
"Homosexuality is a sin"
"Homophobe!"
"I'm a Muslim"
"Sorry! Carry on then. I'm not Islamophobic'"
1 satanismyhomeboy 2017-11-15
Do you hate me because I'm black, esteemed fellow Klu Klux Klan members?
1 MegaSeedsInYourBum 2017-11-15
Clayton Bigsby could never be hated.
1 MelanoidNation 2017-11-15
The Grand Cyclops told me to hate you. Who am I to argue?
1 SenatorCoryGardner 2017-11-15
Really /u/bab5crusade, how "many" of these people do you know?
1 BannaHamHock 2017-11-15
To be fair if you're a gay you prob hang at gay clubs and run into more trans people than would otherwise be reasonably expected.
1 slippyducky 2017-11-15
I know 3 trans people. The likelihood of even one of them wanting to convert to Islam is pretty low.
1 ChateauJack 2017-11-15
well...there's this guy
1 JumbledFun 2017-11-15
/u/The_Duke99 would definitely be first in line to throw some gay people off the roof. What a bloodthirsty savage
1 slippyducky 2017-11-15
/u/The_Duke99 plz tell us more about how liking bussy is LITERALLY THE SAME THING as murdering someone.
Wallah you Wahhabis will burn up in Jahannam for commiting takfir and twisting the words of Big Daddy to fit your own agenda.
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1 Trapsarntgay1 2017-11-15
This war on bussy will not be tolerated. Clearly its time for a crusade, or we may never again fugg qt traps!
1 crimsonchibolt 2017-11-15
Nonsense they still have that cultural thing of raping young men so it will be fiiiiine.
1 slippyducky 2017-11-15
Fun fact: many Muslims say it's only gay if you're the bottom. There have been cases of Turkish police officers raping gay rights activists for being gay.
1 crimsonchibolt 2017-11-15
hmmm note for future reference visit turkish gay protests....heh.
1 KingNothing305 2017-11-15
Not for long as the Government kills gays.
1 slippyducky 2017-11-15
/u/CarsGotBars
When are you going to kill my faggot Hanafi ass? Or is it ok to be a part of the gay commie ummah if I'm saving my bussy for big daddy Allah? I'm assuming you hate me anyways for not being a filthy Wahabbi.
My grandma (SWT) taught me what Pashtuns consider to be conservative Islam and told me there are 4 sources of Islamic knowledge: Literal verses in the Koran, philosophy, allegorical verses in the Koran and Hadith, ordered by importance:
A. No literal verses in the Quran on being gay, so whether someone is gay or not can't be a major theological issue.
B. Philosophy and logic says being a faggot doesn't hurt anyone, so it ain't haram.
C. Lut can be interpreted to be about sucking dicks. It could also be about rape, bisexuals cheating on their wives and many other things. Luckily Daddy Allah says not to worry about it, as those who judge others based on their own interpretation of the Koran (e.g. you) are filthy liars:
D. Old conservative Bibi Jan (that's grandma for the kuffar) said the following: All Hadith either A) state something that is already in the Koran, B) is so irrelevant in the eyes of big Daddy that it ain't included in the holy Koran or C) are false lies spread filthy people who will burn in Jahannam.
You'll obviously burn in Jahannam for that username as well - bars aren't very halal and will not tolerated in the gay communist ummah.
1 OdinSQL 2017-11-15
Faggotry has killed millions trough the spread of diseases such as AIDS.
1 slippyducky 2017-11-15
And STD's have never spread through heterosexual sex? And who said homosexuality and MSM are the same thing? There is a difference between willingly accepting the risk of getting an STD from sex, and being a victim of something you have no control over.
How do you expect me to take you people's so called theological views seriously, when you can't even comment on or use any reliable theological sources or logical arguments?
1 OdinSQL 2017-11-15
This is /r/Drama take your faggotry some place else shit dick.
1 Eatsnotalot 2017-11-15
u/The_Duke99 lets start with the gays 1st bro and then move on to kaffirs.. Rubber dingy rapids..
1 slippyducky 2017-11-15
it's kuffar you pleb
1 Eatsnotalot 2017-11-15
According to urban dictionary, you can use kaffur, kaffir or kafir
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kuffar
1 shallowm 2017-11-15
I mean, in Arabic, the plural for kafir is kuffar (there are other plurals, but none of the ones you listed work, and kuffar is the most common).
1 OdinSQL 2017-11-15
This makes about as much sense as a black man joining the KKK, Jewish Nazis, or white people that support black lives matter.