Dude who started this thread is a well known troll and internet spammer. He spams reddit every few weeks with his anti-Wikipedia website to and gain traffic.
If someone runs an internet search on "23 canaries" it comes up that you are Rome Viharo and you have been banned all over the web. You have been banned on Wikipedia, Rationalwiki and several forums.
What evidence do you have other people are "sociopaths", just your usual misinformation and slander I see. How comes you get banned everywhere 23canaries. You recently got banned from a group on Reddit for spamming.
if someone types "23canaries' into search and discovered my name, they would find you were lying and that I haven't been banned over the web, rather I have been targeted online by a few sociopaths who edit Wikipedia, RationalWiki, and create freshly minted Reddit accounts to stalk me where I go online.
In your latest website post you admitted to getting banned on a skeptic group on Reddit.
What are you playing at getting banned on websites? You then deny your bans.
"And create freshly minted Reddit accounts to stalk me where I go online"
Right, but this only happens after you stalk and write nasty things about these skeptics on your website and spam your website on Reddit for traffic, you do this every 3 months. Are the skeptics just meant to sit back and do nothing? You dish abuse out but expect nothing back?
This is cause and effect. You start it, then moan when skeptics retaliate. That's funny. If you want this to end all you have to do is stop attacking certain skeptics by writing about them on your website and spamming "Wikipedia We Have a Problem" on Reddit for traffic.
I dont consider bans that are weaponized as a form of editor suppression or harassment "bans" at all, especially when every single "ban" you are mentioning occurred because of intentional misinformation shared about me by you to damage my reputation in consensus building.
And being "blocked" (technically I am only blocked on Wikipedia anyone, not technically "banned") because my voice is a threat to certain questionable power structures that are exposed is quite an honor, actually.
Take me out tonight
Where there's music and there's people
And they're young and alive
Driving in your car
I never never want to go home
Because I haven't got one
Anymore
Take me out tonight
Because I want to see people and I
Want to see life
Driving in your car
Oh, please don't drop me home
Because it's not my home, it's their
Home, and I'm welcome no more
And if a double-decker bus
Crashes into us
To die by your side
Is such a heavenly way to die
And if a ten-ton truck
Kills the both of us
To die by your side
Well, the pleasure - the privilege is mine
Rome Viharo is good looking man and very successful social media strategist. He has been attacked by atheists and skeptics on the internet who claim he has promoted pseudoscience in the past. Who cares about the past?
Mr Viharo is well trained in aikido and is a great role model for spirituality world-wide. Who cares if he worked for Deepak Chopra or has an interest in acupuncture? Mr. Viharo 23canaries will never stop criticizing the dodgy methods of skeptics like James Randi and Tim Farley on his website.
It takes two to tango and Mr. Viharo is doing a great job and getting a lot of traffic on his website lately. It is obvious you work for James Randi or David Gerard and you skeptics are being paid to come here and try and debate Viharo and myself. All we can say is thank you for the traffic. Your behaviour on here will be a new study for Viharo's website.
You skeptics are online sociopaths who create freshly created reddit accounts. We do not fall for it.
Just in case any random person comes across this thread. This entire thread is a publicity stunt by self-confessed "prankster" internet troll 23canaries. Rome Viharo on his 23canaries account has been creating countless sock-puppets to try and gain traffic to his "Wikipedia We Have a Problem" website. Indeed about 90% of the accounts below are all 23canaries talking to himself, to gain traffic.
23canaries is a well known online sociopath who creates freshly created reddit accounts. dont fall for it.
I have worked as a paid editor for Rome Viharo for several years. He has been blocked on Wikipedia and other forums but it is all for a good cause. He has debunked the atheists and the materialists.
You do realise every time you materialistic skeptics create these freshly minted reddit accounts you are funding our Wikipedia We Have a Problem website by giving us traffic? Thank you :)
I have worked as a skeptic for Susan Gerbic and Joe Nickell. They were paying me to debunk pseudoscience on Rationalwiki. The money is not enough though.
I would like to convert to a believer and join the psychic guys like Rome Viharo and the psychical research team. I will write articles on Wikipedia We Have A Problem debunking Tim Farley and those evil skeptics who attack the psychics. Can I get on board? I do not work for free but my charges are reasonable.
Susan Gerbic was paying me only $5 to create Rationalwiki articles debunking psychics. Now that is simply NOT enough. How dare she!!
Susan Gerbic needs an article on Wikipedia We Have A Problem, why has she been left out? We need to sort these evil skeptics out Mr Viharo. I have converted to your side.
I have been paid by Rome Viharo as his personal bodyguard and I can tell you now you have no chance of him paying you. He already has enough paid editors working for him. We do not trust the likes of you.
Please note I have a black belt in aikido, I trained with Steven Seaguls. So watch out!!!
I got halfway through the article and didn't have any clue what the actual accusations being leveled were so I gave up. Some trolls talked about him in private chats and made a page about him on a wiki no one uses? Oh no.
We walk into RationalWiki's Saloon Bar, and encounter a toxic community who have targeted us with attack and revenge articles using highly questionable tactics and clear harassment that (apparently) are also exploited for fundraising.
We walk into RationalWiki’s Saloon Bar, and encounter a toxic community who have targeted us with attack and revenge articles using impersonations, gas-lighting, and clear harassment that (apparently) are also exploited for fundraising.
Vague, unspecific, poorly written, unnecessarily laden with what I think is a shitty metaphor, too full of buzz words (toxic, questionable tactics, revenge), etc.
I see 23canaries is back to spamming his libel and conspiracy theories onto Reddit.
"Prior to his antics on Wikipedia, Rome Viharo trolled online message-boards and forums that also resulted in bans. His various usernames include Bubblefish, PillyM, WWHP, Tumbleman, 23canaries, and hoofish."
Not defending anyone - rather accusing the infamous 'Smith' brothers for impersonating people online to rile up RW editors for the purposes of fundraising.
You know about the Smith brothers? Like oliver smith? he is a neo nazi too - http://archive.li/iJXo2
he has a twin brother.
both of them are online sociopaths.
They also stalk me on Reddit, usually after I post something about their activities.
So you're a pedophile then Rome Viharo? The same website (Kiwi Farms) you just linked to describes you as a pedophile/child rapist (on archive.is), so does its related troll site, candicelynnpotter; it also says you stalk underage children, are a massive "wikisperg", and believe "Google is conscious", among other crazy things.
Funny how you will link to smears and misinformation from troll sites about other people, but when someone links to the same site about you, that is totally unacceptable and you are a "victim".
Note the image with "child rapist" above your head was first posted on Kiwi Farms, it then got copied to the related troll site.
Since you link to Kiwi Farms as a accurate source of information about other people, you shouldn't have a problem with me pointing out you're a child molester - that's what these same websites say about you.
"Rome Viharo is a cyberbully, internet troll He has a decade long history of internet harassment and cyber bullying"
http://archive.is/8LFzr
According to Viharo all these statements must be 100% factual, because he links to the same website as a reliable source of information about other people.
Note this idiot's huge double standard when he harasses people.
I've already reported him to Reddit staff. I also reported his older posts as well that break multiple rules; he's been not only doxing but posting fake legal threats and defamation.
We're actually now paid via paypal a month by a prominent skeptic (who will remain anonymous, at least for now) to create entries on pseudoscientists on RationalWiki; that person had read the garbage about us on your website and it just got him to like us more and what we do.
It's not common knowledge, you dummy. Hardly anyone knows what this nonsense is about. Reporting what is "searchable on the internet [sic]" is called doxxing, you dummy.
It's common knowledge within Wikipedia and WikiMedia circles, with a number of individuals investigating them on the internet, and even RationalWiki's own editors on RW mention their direct names too.
This is called "reporting" in addition to a "public service announcement" warning others in these communities about these activities.
Since these individuals have also emailed me directly with out my invitation, I am free to report responsibly and share that on Reddit where it is responsible to do so.
It's common knowledge within Wikipedia and WikiMedia circles
No it isn't, you dummy. It just seems that way to you because you've been obsessing for over FOUR YEARS, ever since you were rightly banned from Wikipedia. How much longer until you get on with your life? Five years? A decade? Two decades?
yes, it is. Remember, what I am doing with WWHP that you do not see is building a consensus around events that have transpired over the past few years.
That's why you're still hounding me. I think maybe you should ask yourself the same question?
Consider, if you stopped stalking and harassing me, I would have no new content to blog about you.
yet you keep WWHP alive and fresh, trying to cover up small petty activity from four years ago.
And, as usual - you project yourself onto me, which is a remarkable phenomenon, I would love to understand more.
23canaries the problem is that you are doxing real life names and claiming that these people own certain Wikipedia accounts or accounts on blogs on forums but it is impossible to prove that these accounts belong to the person you owns them. When someone signs up to Rationalwiki or Wikipedia they do not have to disclose their real name. You have no right to be outing people and stalking their real life. This is very different for you because you publicly revealed your name Rome Viharo.
On your blog post you advertise here on this thread you make many accusations. But we only have your own word for your allegations and it is not reliable evidence. It would be thrown out in court instantaneously.
You have no technical data or IP evidence to be claiming certain usernames on Rationalwiki belong to someone. You were banned on Rationalwiki and Wikipedia. You have no credibility at all.
You have slandered Tim Farley, David Gerard and other skeptics on your blog as "sociopaths" or "mentally ill".
You also recently slandered a man called Chris Philips on your website and said he was a "fake", you since have removed this. He is a real life person who has complained about your "outrageous behaviour".
I don't see Tim Farley, David Gerard or these other skeptics defaming you anywhere or calling you mentally ill so why are you doing it to people on your website? You have a history of promoting pseudoscience and trolling forums and that is what your Rationalwiki article documents. Nobody has slandered you anywhere.
I know in recent years you are embarrassed about your involvement with Deepak Chopra and other pseudoscience beliefs but there is nothing we can do about that. I would politely ask you to cease harassing skeptics on your website.
You are clearly just Susan Gerbic, the founder of Guerrilla Skepticism on Wikipedia.
Listen, I have worked as a paid editor for 23canaries. Mr Rome Viharo is a great friend of mine. He has solid evidence on his website destroying atheist materialistics like you. You are an organized skeptic movement out to damage control activities. We will not tolerate your flag waving.
Viharo has done an excellent job of defending Rupert Sheldrake and Deepak Chopra. The pseudoskeptics like yourself just don't want to accept with live in a spiritual universe.
23canaries
You like to annoy skeptics by spamming your abusive website on Reddit.
No, I don't. That's the "23canaries" in your mind. You don't know me.
I enjoy building a rational consensus and sharing relevant information.
So what you are doing is actually looking to cause trouble.
I'm not looking to ever cause trouble, but to build consensus. When there are sociopathic stumbling blocks to building a rational consensus, I am 100% confrontational with them and will extend continued discussion with them until there is a resolution, somewhat like I've been doing with you for a few years now, right?
Are you claiming otherwise?
Obviously.
Do you crave the attention from skeptics?
I crave attention from skeptics on the issue of harassment on Wikipedia and the questionable tactics small groups of them are engaging in for the sake of their "mission"
Are you making money by slandering skeptics on your website?
I'm not slandering any skeptic on my website, ever. What I am doing is blogging about each and every single event that this group of editors uses against me for the past four years, building up a extended case study into online harassment and misinformation.
I see psychic organizations are now promoting your conspiracy theories.
I don't promote any conspiracy theories. There is no "theory" there is only documented harassment recorded like a diary each time it happens, going back four years.
The problem is that you are doxing real life names and claiming that these skeptics own certain Wikipedia accounts or accounts on blogs on forums but it is impossible to prove that these accounts belong to the person you say owns them because they are random usernames.
I've not doxed anyone that I know, mearely republished information on the web, and in relationship to the Smiths, their names are published because they are public menaces and have engaged in heinous online acts and crimes, so bad I had to file an FBI report.
But you know all that already, right?
When someone signs up to Rationalwiki or Wikipedia they do not have to disclose their real name.
That does not give those users the right to abuse being anonymous online by stalking, impersonating, and gaslighting individuals online.
You have no right to be trying to out people or stalk their real life identity.
I don't stalk anyone. I am in an open investigation, however - of a very toxic "troll farm" and much of my evidence is also being compiled for law enforcement.
This is very different for you because you publicly revealed your name Rome Viharo.
Nope. Small groups of disgruntled "skeptics" have doxed me twice, once back in 2007, and again on Wikipedia. My name has since been revealed because of the RationalWiki article, which also doxes my other social media accounts.
On your blog post you advertise here on this thread you make many accusations. But we only have your own word for your allegations and this is not reliable evidence.
No you don't - you have Wikipedia We Have a Problem, which contains multiple links which are stored on Open Source platforms such as Wikipedia, RationalWiki, Wordpress, and Reddit which directly show the behaviors. All I do is gather what happens, and either link to the event or copy it.
If its good enough for Google Jigsaw team, I'm sure it is good enough for you too.
It would be thrown out in court instantaneously.
I'll trust my attorneys on that one, thanks.
For example you say x impersonated someone, you then say x has to be z. But there is no evidence x = z, only your accusation. No proof.
There is proof, and it is on the website. You're only saying there is no proof because you are running a crappy persuasion campaign trying to damage control the individuals responsible.
You have no technical data or IP evidence to be claiming certain usernames on Rationalwiki belong to someone.
Yes, I do.
You were banned on Rationalwiki and Wikipedia. You have no credibility at all.
I know it is important to you for people to believe that.
You have slandered Tim Farley, David Gerard and other skeptics on your blog as "sociopaths" or "mentally ill".
I've never slandered anyone. Specifically, I've stated the Smiths behaviors are sociopathic because that is the plainly obvious interpretation due to the massive amount of deception, stalking, and malicious targeting with a clear lack of self-reflection.
for example, they like to create freshly minted Reddit accounts to try and damage control the fall out of what I publish on WWHP and pretend they are other people.
You also recently slandered a man called Chris Philips on your website and you said he was a "fake", you since have removed. He is a real life person who has complained about your "outrageous behaviour".
Actually, you're somewhat right about that, I made a mistake about Chris, and apologized to both him and removed the FB comment in question. We're FB pals now, and you know why? Because we're both rational and those type of resolutions take like 20 seconds to work through.
I do not see Tim Farley, David Gerard or these other skeptics defaming you anywhere or calling you mentally ill so why are you doing it to people on your website?
That's not true. Both Tim Farley and David Gerard have specifically stated and shared misinformation about me, I have recorded on the website.
You have a history of promoting pseudoscience and trolling forums and that is what your Rationalwiki article documents.
No one in their right minds would consider editing two Wikipedia biographies "promoting psuedoscience" and you trolls are really abusing that word.
Nobody has slandered you anywhere.
You're misrepresenting reality again.
In the past you have admitted in your own words you have had fun playing 'jokes' and pranks on skeptics on your username Bubblefish. Are you claiming you have never trolled?
If you want to define trolling as joking, or staging an "internet performance" that was fully disclosed, okay fine, I did that back in 2003. However, we define trolling as anything toxic, harassing, abusive, or intrusive - I've never done that in my life. As a matter of fact, the whole "bubblefish" joke was confronting online users who were toxic, abusive, and harassing while I attempted to build a "win win" with them.
What should anyone care about that and who cares?
I know in recent years you are embarrassed about your involvement with Deepak Chopra and other pseudoscience beliefs that you had but there is nothing we can do about that.
Interesting, it is as if you've been following me around this whole time ;)
I'm not embarrassed about anything, and my "beliefs", as you put it, really havent changed much in the past 25 years.
I would politely ask you to cease harassing skeptics on your website.
I'm not harassing skeptics on my website, you're misinforming events again. I am exposing a toxic ring of editors who claim to be skeptics and helping design technologies to resolve things like online misinformation and trolling.
Maybe if you made something of your life and got into the real world and off the internet you would see life is more important than your "Wikipedia We Have a Problem" website. You got banned from Wikipedia. Get over it and move on.
Thanks, I'm sure you have my best interests in mind.
I'm not slandering any skeptic on my website, ever. What I am doing is blogging about each and every single event that this group of editors uses against me for the past four years, building up a extended case study into online harassment and misinformation.
You have slandered Tim Farley, David Gerard, myself Manul, LuckyLouie, Dan Skeptic on your forum. You call some of these individuals "sociopaths", "mentally ill" or you claim they are "harassing you", or you claim they own sock-puppets without solid evidence. Example you claim myself and Tim Farley are the same person or working for each other, which is false.
I guess you do not have a close touch on reality. It is not illegal to create a Rationalwiki profile on someone or call someone a pseudoscience promoter. You got banned from Wikipedia, nobody has "harassed" you.
Nope. Small groups of disgruntled "skeptics" have doxed me twice, once back in 2007, and again on Wikipedia. My name has since been revealed because of the RationalWiki article, which also doxes my other social media accounts.
Wrong. Nobody doxxed you. You signed your own name Rome Viharo on Wikipedia. This was your mistake which you have acknowledged on your website. Once you publish something online, it is there for everyone to see. You also have your name Rome Viharo on your website "Wikipedia We Have a Problem", and you admit to being Rome on your 23canaries account. So nobody has doxxed your information.
They are public menaces and have engaged in heinous online acts and crimes, so bad I had to file an FBI report.
Anyone can file an online FBI report. Several people have filed them about you. They lead nowhere in this case because there are no crimes being committed. Like I said it is not illegal to create a rationalwiki page on someone or call someone with pseudoscientific beliefs like yourself a "pseudoscience promoter". Nor it is illegal to ban a troll like yourself from Wikipedia.
Look at the world, hundreds of people got blown up in Egypt recently, and there are real life terrorists and psychopaths out there. These are real horrific crimes. The FBI, etc have no interest in your fantasies or paranoia about being banned on Rationalwiki or Wikipedia.
You have no lawyers that would be able to make a valid case for you. You would be laughed out of court. It has been many years since you got banned on Wikipedia and since that time no skeptic you accuse of this "harassment" has gotten into any trouble. It is empty legal threats and invented fantasies you have. Face it, you have no case and never will have. We are all laughing at you.
If you want to define trolling as joking, or staging an "internet performance" that was fully disclosed, okay fine, I did that back in 2003.
You are an online prankster. So some skeptics may have had a little joke on you at times in revenge. You then claim this joking is "harassment". You talk about gaslighting, where has someone done that to you? You tend to seriously exaggerate.
In all seriousness I exposed you years ago and got you banned on Wikipedia. Sorry but you deserved it. You were not on Wikipedia to build an encyclopedia. As Tim Farley pointed out you never had any constructive edits.
You have slandered Tim Farley, David Gerard, myself Manul, LuckyLouie, Dan Skeptic on your forum.
Nope.
You call some of these individuals "sociopaths", "mentally ill" or you claim they are "harassing you", or you claim they own sock-puppets without solid evidence.
Everything posted on Wikipedia has third-party falsifiable evidence with direct links to the actual events.
Example you claim myself and Tim Farley are the same person or working for each other, which is false.
You're not Wikipedia editor Manul, so you're really not in a position to say.
I don't claim Manul is Tim Farley as I do not know that information for certain.
I guess you do not have a close touch on reality. It is not illegal to create a Rationalwiki profile on someone or call someone a pseudoscience promoter. You got banned from Wikipedia, nobody has "harassed" you.
That's not what the actual data shows.
Nobody doxxed you. You signed your own name Rome Viharo on Wikipedia. This was your mistake which you have acknowledged on your website. Once you publish something online, it is there for everyone to see. You also have your name Rome Viharo on your website "Wikipedia We Have a Problem", and you admit to being Rome on your 23canaries account and you use Reddit to advertise your website. So nobody has doxxed your information.
That's not what the data shows
Anyone can file an online FBI report. Several people have filed them about you. They lead nowhere in this case because there are no crimes being committed.
Yes, absolutely anyone can file an FBI report. That's the point, it is a matter of public record and testimony. Filing a false report is a felony in the US. Please let me know who filed those reports? That would be great further evidence for law enforcement and a slam dunk. Thx in advance!
Like I said it is not illegal to create a rationalwiki page on someone or call someone with pseudoscientific beliefs like yourself a "pseudoscience promoter". Nor it is illegal to ban a troll like yourself from Wikipedia.
What is illegal is impersonations, blackmail, harassment, and email threats.
Look at the world, hundreds of people got blown up in Egypt recently, and there are real life terrorists and psychopaths out there. These are real horrific crimes. The FBI, etc have no interest in your fantasies or paranoia about being banned on Rationalwiki or Wikipedia.
I don't think that's how it works. We have a criminal justice system in the US and a process with which to arrive at justice. Online stalking, blackmail, impersonations is a crime.
You have no lawyers that would be able to make a valid case for you. You would be laughed out of court.
I'll trust my attorneys on that one, thanks
It has been many years since you got banned on Wikipedia and since that time no skeptic you accuse of this "harassment" has gotten into any trouble. It is empty legal threats and invented fantasies you have. Face it, you have no case and never will have. We are all laughing at you.
Yet they continue to target and harass me years later, keeping the case fresh.
You are an online prankster. So some skeptics may have had a little joke on you at times in revenge. You then claim this joking is "harassment". You talk about gaslighting, where has someone done that to you? You tend to seriously exaggerate
dudester - this comment is the definition of gaslighting.
By referring to my general claims as a "conspiracy theory" constructed by an "internet crank" and claiming i am "making it all up" or "exaggerating"
I'm many things, but all the things I am I have integrity with. If I am playing a prank or a joke, I'm transparent about it and years ago I was an actual comedy writer, professionally. I got paid to it.You're trying to suggest that since I have a comedy background, that menas everything I do is a prank. That's really silly logic.
WWHP and my work with aiki wiki is not a joke.
In all seriousness I exposed you years ago and got you banned on Wikipedia. The ban was supported but a number of neutral administrators. Sorry but you deserved it. You were not on Wikipedia to build an encyclopedia. As Tim Farley pointed out you never had any constructive edits but spend your time trolling. This is why most skeptics now ignore you, I received any email recently from a well known skeptic for me to do the same.
I have actually slipped up here for "feeding" you, so I will not be further replying. You will probably write a thousand word essay reply like you usually do, but I have no interest in reading it because it will be the same "Rome Viharo is right, everyone else is wrong" garbage. Take care.
NO one knew about this in 2013. Way too complex to communicate and detail.
Now, in 2017, close to 100,000 are aware of it to some varying degree, with a solid five hundred from within the Wikipedia and Wikimedia community continuing to revisit each and every single month following the story.
You are the gift that keeps on giving, truly.
WWHP would not have gone viral without you. Valuable research into toxic consensus building would not be learned with you Farley and Gerard and the rest.
"Prior to his antics on Wikipedia, Viharo trolled online message-boards and forums that also resulted in bans. His various usernames include Bubblefish, PillyM, WWHP, Tumbleman, 23canaries, and hoofish."
It appears you are the troll 23canaries with countless different usernames. Various groups on Reddit have banned you from commenting (You have been banned from the Rationalwiki and Skeptic boards). You do not have a good online reputation.
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Slaughter their victims with ripping knives
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Strapped to the chair, they should die there
Blood spewing from their eyes
As you hear their sinful cries
Destroy their evil minds
We should take their lives
They should be caught and punished
For what they have done
Torture them slowly it would be fun
Kill them all off one by one
Let them go - no torture them slow
Off you - and your kind
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Slaughter their victims with ripping knives
They should be caught and put to death
Strapped to the chair, they should die there
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1 SnapshillBot 2017-11-20
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1 23canaries 2017-11-20
thanks for your service
1 i_eat_crayons1 2017-11-20
I can feel his barely contained rage throughout the article
1 SarahJane1968 2017-11-20
Dude who started this thread is a well known troll and internet spammer. He spams reddit every few weeks with his anti-Wikipedia website to and gain traffic.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Rome_Viharo
"His various usernames include Bubblefish, PillyM, WWHP, Tumbleman, 23canaries, and hoofish."
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
dude who just replied to OP is a well known online sociopath with a freshly created reddit account. dont fall for it
1 SarahJane1968 2017-11-20
If someone runs an internet search on "23 canaries" it comes up that you are Rome Viharo and you have been banned all over the web. You have been banned on Wikipedia, Rationalwiki and several forums.
What evidence do you have other people are "sociopaths", just your usual misinformation and slander I see. How comes you get banned everywhere 23canaries. You recently got banned from a group on Reddit for spamming.
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
if someone types "23canaries' into search and discovered my name, they would find you were lying and that I haven't been banned over the web, rather I have been targeted online by a few sociopaths who edit Wikipedia, RationalWiki, and create freshly minted Reddit accounts to stalk me where I go online.
That's what they will find.
1 RationalWikiEditor 2017-11-20
Actually, you have been banned on forums, rationalwiki and Wikipedia, 23canaries.
https://archive.is/w924h
You were banned on the above forum.
And Wikipedia on multiple accounts:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Tumbleman/Archive
In your latest website post you admitted to getting banned on a skeptic group on Reddit.
What are you playing at getting banned on websites? You then deny your bans.
"And create freshly minted Reddit accounts to stalk me where I go online"
Right, but this only happens after you stalk and write nasty things about these skeptics on your website and spam your website on Reddit for traffic, you do this every 3 months. Are the skeptics just meant to sit back and do nothing? You dish abuse out but expect nothing back?
This is cause and effect. You start it, then moan when skeptics retaliate. That's funny. If you want this to end all you have to do is stop attacking certain skeptics by writing about them on your website and spamming "Wikipedia We Have a Problem" on Reddit for traffic.
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
I dont consider bans that are weaponized as a form of editor suppression or harassment "bans" at all, especially when every single "ban" you are mentioning occurred because of intentional misinformation shared about me by you to damage my reputation in consensus building.
And being "blocked" (technically I am only blocked on Wikipedia anyone, not technically "banned") because my voice is a threat to certain questionable power structures that are exposed is quite an honor, actually.
As all the many readers of my site already know.
It's the RW editors who are out of the loop.
1 WikipediaNoProblem 2017-11-20
Take me out tonight Where there's music and there's people And they're young and alive Driving in your car I never never want to go home Because I haven't got one Anymore
Take me out tonight Because I want to see people and I Want to see life Driving in your car Oh, please don't drop me home Because it's not my home, it's their Home, and I'm welcome no more
And if a double-decker bus Crashes into us To die by your side Is such a heavenly way to die And if a ten-ton truck Kills the both of us To die by your side Well, the pleasure - the privilege is mine
1 RVdefender 2017-11-20
Rome Viharo is good looking man and very successful social media strategist. He has been attacked by atheists and skeptics on the internet who claim he has promoted pseudoscience in the past. Who cares about the past?
Mr Viharo is well trained in aikido and is a great role model for spirituality world-wide. Who cares if he worked for Deepak Chopra or has an interest in acupuncture? Mr. Viharo 23canaries will never stop criticizing the dodgy methods of skeptics like James Randi and Tim Farley on his website.
It takes two to tango and Mr. Viharo is doing a great job and getting a lot of traffic on his website lately. It is obvious you work for James Randi or David Gerard and you skeptics are being paid to come here and try and debate Viharo and myself. All we can say is thank you for the traffic. Your behaviour on here will be a new study for Viharo's website.
You skeptics are online sociopaths who create freshly created reddit accounts. We do not fall for it.
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
This angle is entertaining. keep it up. also i have a cute tush.
1 Thulean-Dragon 2017-11-20
RationalWiki is beyond embarrassing, especially after the atheism+ debacle.
Surprised it's still going, honestly.
1 WikipediaWeHaveAProb 2017-11-20
dude who just replied to my friend 23canaries / Rome Viharo is a well known online sociopath with a freshly created reddit account. dont fall for it
23canaries has debunked atheism and those materialistic skeptics. He is now targeted by skeptics paid by James Randi.
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
I don't know you, I am not your friend.
1 skeptic33772 2017-11-20
Just in case any random person comes across this thread. This entire thread is a publicity stunt by self-confessed "prankster" internet troll 23canaries. Rome Viharo on his 23canaries account has been creating countless sock-puppets to try and gain traffic to his "Wikipedia We Have a Problem" website. Indeed about 90% of the accounts below are all 23canaries talking to himself, to gain traffic.
23canaries is a well known online sociopath who creates freshly created reddit accounts. dont fall for it.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Rome_Viharo
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
sure, freshly minted reddit account that has just been deleted - I'm sure your statement can be trusted.
1 BubblefishTumbleman 2017-11-20
I have worked as a paid editor for Rome Viharo for several years. He has been blocked on Wikipedia and other forums but it is all for a good cause. He has debunked the atheists and the materialists.
You do realise every time you materialistic skeptics create these freshly minted reddit accounts you are funding our Wikipedia We Have a Problem website by giving us traffic? Thank you :)
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
no, you haven't worked for Rome Viharo you're just creating yet another freshly minted Reddit account to troll.
1 ConvertedGoodGuy 2017-11-20
I just found this thread from an internet search.
I have worked as a skeptic for Susan Gerbic and Joe Nickell. They were paying me to debunk pseudoscience on Rationalwiki. The money is not enough though.
I would like to convert to a believer and join the psychic guys like Rome Viharo and the psychical research team. I will write articles on Wikipedia We Have A Problem debunking Tim Farley and those evil skeptics who attack the psychics. Can I get on board? I do not work for free but my charges are reasonable.
Susan Gerbic was paying me only $5 to create Rationalwiki articles debunking psychics. Now that is simply NOT enough. How dare she!!
Susan Gerbic needs an article on Wikipedia We Have A Problem, why has she been left out? We need to sort these evil skeptics out Mr Viharo. I have converted to your side.
1 BodyGuardforWWWP 2017-11-20
You are a freshly minted reddit account.
I have been paid by Rome Viharo as his personal bodyguard and I can tell you now you have no chance of him paying you. He already has enough paid editors working for him. We do not trust the likes of you.
Please note I have a black belt in aikido, I trained with Steven Seaguls. So watch out!!!
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
dud.
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
Sure, that seems what most people say when they come to reddit from google search, freshly minted Reddit account.
Sheesh, the RW trolls are running every strategy in this thread.
As usual, none of them work, and they will get tired of this long before I will.
1 becauseiliketoupvote 2017-11-20
I got halfway through the article and didn't have any clue what the actual accusations being leveled were so I gave up. Some trolls talked about him in private chats and made a page about him on a wiki no one uses? Oh no.
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
third sentence states:
1 becauseiliketoupvote 2017-11-20
Yeah, what?
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
thx for feedback.
hows this for a third sentence?
1 becauseiliketoupvote 2017-11-20
Vague, unspecific, poorly written, unnecessarily laden with what I think is a shitty metaphor, too full of buzz words (toxic, questionable tactics, revenge), etc.
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
okay at this stage I think I am just questioning your reading comprehension skills.
also, "vague" and "unspecific" kinda mean the same thing, don't they? I think they call that redundant.
1 tyuijvhvhcfcjf 2017-11-20
Aight I'm out thanks
1 SarahJane1968 2017-11-20
I see 23canaries is back to spamming his libel and conspiracy theories onto Reddit.
"Prior to his antics on Wikipedia, Rome Viharo trolled online message-boards and forums that also resulted in bans. His various usernames include Bubblefish, PillyM, WWHP, Tumbleman, 23canaries, and hoofish."
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Rome_Viharo
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
you can't weasel out of this one.
http://wikipediawehaveaproblem.com/2017/03/oliver-smith-dark-entanglement/
1 GardenShed2 2017-11-20
The "atheist" he is referring to is the pedophile & neo-Nazi Emil Kirkegaard.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Emil_O._W._Kirkegaard#Pedophilia
Funny, how 23canaries introduces Mr. Kirkegaard as an "atheist" and not a Nazi pedo.
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
Not defending anyone - rather accusing the infamous 'Smith' brothers for impersonating people online to rile up RW editors for the purposes of fundraising.
You know about the Smith brothers? Like oliver smith? he is a neo nazi too - http://archive.li/iJXo2
he has a twin brother.
both of them are online sociopaths.
They also stalk me on Reddit, usually after I post something about their activities.
1 GildasBede 2017-11-20
So you're a pedophile then Rome Viharo? The same website (Kiwi Farms) you just linked to describes you as a pedophile/child rapist (on archive.is), so does its related troll site, candicelynnpotter; it also says you stalk underage children, are a massive "wikisperg", and believe "Google is conscious", among other crazy things.
Funny how you will link to smears and misinformation from troll sites about other people, but when someone links to the same site about you, that is totally unacceptable and you are a "victim".
1 GildasBede 2017-11-20
"Rome Viharo child rapist" http://archive.is/EVYgq
Note the image with "child rapist" above your head was first posted on Kiwi Farms, it then got copied to the related troll site.
Since you link to Kiwi Farms as a accurate source of information about other people, you shouldn't have a problem with me pointing out you're a child molester - that's what these same websites say about you.
1 GildasBede 2017-11-20
More links.
"Rome Viharo, Wikisperg & Proponent of the "Google is Conscious" Theory" https://archive.is/8j1V8
"Rome Viharo creepy stalker" http://archive.is/aipO3
"Rome Viharo is a cyberbully, internet troll He has a decade long history of internet harassment and cyber bullying" http://archive.is/8LFzr
According to Viharo all these statements must be 100% factual, because he links to the same website as a reliable source of information about other people.
Note this idiot's huge double standard when he harasses people.
1 SarahJane1968 2017-11-20
23canaries your link and post contains doxing. This is against Reddit's rules.
1 GildasBede 2017-11-20
I've already reported him to Reddit staff. I also reported his older posts as well that break multiple rules; he's been not only doxing but posting fake legal threats and defamation.
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
that's because you're a freshly minted user account who is trying to damage control RW's activities
1 GildasBede 2017-11-20
You've lost; read the PM I sent.
We're actually now paid via paypal a month by a prominent skeptic (who will remain anonymous, at least for now) to create entries on pseudoscientists on RationalWiki; that person had read the garbage about us on your website and it just got him to like us more and what we do.
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
Not doxing anyone. Information about this individual is common knowledge searchable on the internet
1 AntillesCat 2017-11-20
It's not common knowledge, you dummy. Hardly anyone knows what this nonsense is about. Reporting what is "searchable on the internet [sic]" is called doxxing, you dummy.
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
It's common knowledge within Wikipedia and WikiMedia circles, with a number of individuals investigating them on the internet, and even RationalWiki's own editors on RW mention their direct names too. This is called "reporting" in addition to a "public service announcement" warning others in these communities about these activities.
Since these individuals have also emailed me directly with out my invitation, I am free to report responsibly and share that on Reddit where it is responsible to do so.
1 AntillesCat 2017-11-20
No it isn't, you dummy. It just seems that way to you because you've been obsessing for over FOUR YEARS, ever since you were rightly banned from Wikipedia. How much longer until you get on with your life? Five years? A decade? Two decades?
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
yes, it is. Remember, what I am doing with WWHP that you do not see is building a consensus around events that have transpired over the past few years.
That's why you're still hounding me. I think maybe you should ask yourself the same question?
Consider, if you stopped stalking and harassing me, I would have no new content to blog about you.
yet you keep WWHP alive and fresh, trying to cover up small petty activity from four years ago.
And, as usual - you project yourself onto me, which is a remarkable phenomenon, I would love to understand more.
1 SarahJane1968 2017-11-20
23canaries the problem is that you are doxing real life names and claiming that these people own certain Wikipedia accounts or accounts on blogs on forums but it is impossible to prove that these accounts belong to the person you owns them. When someone signs up to Rationalwiki or Wikipedia they do not have to disclose their real name. You have no right to be outing people and stalking their real life. This is very different for you because you publicly revealed your name Rome Viharo.
On your blog post you advertise here on this thread you make many accusations. But we only have your own word for your allegations and it is not reliable evidence. It would be thrown out in court instantaneously.
You have no technical data or IP evidence to be claiming certain usernames on Rationalwiki belong to someone. You were banned on Rationalwiki and Wikipedia. You have no credibility at all.
You have slandered Tim Farley, David Gerard and other skeptics on your blog as "sociopaths" or "mentally ill".
You also recently slandered a man called Chris Philips on your website and said he was a "fake", you since have removed this. He is a real life person who has complained about your "outrageous behaviour".
I don't see Tim Farley, David Gerard or these other skeptics defaming you anywhere or calling you mentally ill so why are you doing it to people on your website? You have a history of promoting pseudoscience and trolling forums and that is what your Rationalwiki article documents. Nobody has slandered you anywhere.
I know in recent years you are embarrassed about your involvement with Deepak Chopra and other pseudoscience beliefs but there is nothing we can do about that. I would politely ask you to cease harassing skeptics on your website.
1 WWWPDEFENDER 2017-11-20
You are clearly just Susan Gerbic, the founder of Guerrilla Skepticism on Wikipedia.
Listen, I have worked as a paid editor for 23canaries. Mr Rome Viharo is a great friend of mine. He has solid evidence on his website destroying atheist materialistics like you. You are an organized skeptic movement out to damage control activities. We will not tolerate your flag waving.
Viharo has done an excellent job of defending Rupert Sheldrake and Deepak Chopra. The pseudoskeptics like yourself just don't want to accept with live in a spiritual universe.
You are a freshly minted reddit/account troll.
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
I've never hired you as a paid editor, that must be a fan fantasy?
Can I hire you as paid editor? PM me your phone number and bank account info, I'll wire the funds
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
No, I don't. That's the "23canaries" in your mind. You don't know me.
I enjoy building a rational consensus and sharing relevant information.
I'm not looking to ever cause trouble, but to build consensus. When there are sociopathic stumbling blocks to building a rational consensus, I am 100% confrontational with them and will extend continued discussion with them until there is a resolution, somewhat like I've been doing with you for a few years now, right?
Obviously.
I crave attention from skeptics on the issue of harassment on Wikipedia and the questionable tactics small groups of them are engaging in for the sake of their "mission"
I'm not slandering any skeptic on my website, ever. What I am doing is blogging about each and every single event that this group of editors uses against me for the past four years, building up a extended case study into online harassment and misinformation.
I don't promote any conspiracy theories. There is no "theory" there is only documented harassment recorded like a diary each time it happens, going back four years.
I've not doxed anyone that I know, mearely republished information on the web, and in relationship to the Smiths, their names are published because they are public menaces and have engaged in heinous online acts and crimes, so bad I had to file an FBI report.
But you know all that already, right?
That does not give those users the right to abuse being anonymous online by stalking, impersonating, and gaslighting individuals online.
I don't stalk anyone. I am in an open investigation, however - of a very toxic "troll farm" and much of my evidence is also being compiled for law enforcement.
Nope. Small groups of disgruntled "skeptics" have doxed me twice, once back in 2007, and again on Wikipedia. My name has since been revealed because of the RationalWiki article, which also doxes my other social media accounts.
No you don't - you have Wikipedia We Have a Problem, which contains multiple links which are stored on Open Source platforms such as Wikipedia, RationalWiki, Wordpress, and Reddit which directly show the behaviors. All I do is gather what happens, and either link to the event or copy it.
If its good enough for Google Jigsaw team, I'm sure it is good enough for you too.
I'll trust my attorneys on that one, thanks.
There is proof, and it is on the website. You're only saying there is no proof because you are running a crappy persuasion campaign trying to damage control the individuals responsible.
Yes, I do.
I know it is important to you for people to believe that.
I've never slandered anyone. Specifically, I've stated the Smiths behaviors are sociopathic because that is the plainly obvious interpretation due to the massive amount of deception, stalking, and malicious targeting with a clear lack of self-reflection.
for example, they like to create freshly minted Reddit accounts to try and damage control the fall out of what I publish on WWHP and pretend they are other people.
Actually, you're somewhat right about that, I made a mistake about Chris, and apologized to both him and removed the FB comment in question. We're FB pals now, and you know why? Because we're both rational and those type of resolutions take like 20 seconds to work through.
That's not true. Both Tim Farley and David Gerard have specifically stated and shared misinformation about me, I have recorded on the website.
No one in their right minds would consider editing two Wikipedia biographies "promoting psuedoscience" and you trolls are really abusing that word.
You're misrepresenting reality again.
If you want to define trolling as joking, or staging an "internet performance" that was fully disclosed, okay fine, I did that back in 2003. However, we define trolling as anything toxic, harassing, abusive, or intrusive - I've never done that in my life. As a matter of fact, the whole "bubblefish" joke was confronting online users who were toxic, abusive, and harassing while I attempted to build a "win win" with them.
What should anyone care about that and who cares?
Interesting, it is as if you've been following me around this whole time ;)
I'm not embarrassed about anything, and my "beliefs", as you put it, really havent changed much in the past 25 years.
I'm not harassing skeptics on my website, you're misinforming events again. I am exposing a toxic ring of editors who claim to be skeptics and helping design technologies to resolve things like online misinformation and trolling.
Thanks, I'm sure you have my best interests in mind.
Cheers.
1 ManulFromWikipedia 2017-11-20
You have slandered Tim Farley, David Gerard, myself Manul, LuckyLouie, Dan Skeptic on your forum. You call some of these individuals "sociopaths", "mentally ill" or you claim they are "harassing you", or you claim they own sock-puppets without solid evidence. Example you claim myself and Tim Farley are the same person or working for each other, which is false.
I guess you do not have a close touch on reality. It is not illegal to create a Rationalwiki profile on someone or call someone a pseudoscience promoter. You got banned from Wikipedia, nobody has "harassed" you.
Wrong. Nobody doxxed you. You signed your own name Rome Viharo on Wikipedia. This was your mistake which you have acknowledged on your website. Once you publish something online, it is there for everyone to see. You also have your name Rome Viharo on your website "Wikipedia We Have a Problem", and you admit to being Rome on your 23canaries account. So nobody has doxxed your information.
Anyone can file an online FBI report. Several people have filed them about you. They lead nowhere in this case because there are no crimes being committed. Like I said it is not illegal to create a rationalwiki page on someone or call someone with pseudoscientific beliefs like yourself a "pseudoscience promoter". Nor it is illegal to ban a troll like yourself from Wikipedia.
Look at the world, hundreds of people got blown up in Egypt recently, and there are real life terrorists and psychopaths out there. These are real horrific crimes. The FBI, etc have no interest in your fantasies or paranoia about being banned on Rationalwiki or Wikipedia.
You have no lawyers that would be able to make a valid case for you. You would be laughed out of court. It has been many years since you got banned on Wikipedia and since that time no skeptic you accuse of this "harassment" has gotten into any trouble. It is empty legal threats and invented fantasies you have. Face it, you have no case and never will have. We are all laughing at you.
You are an online prankster. So some skeptics may have had a little joke on you at times in revenge. You then claim this joking is "harassment". You talk about gaslighting, where has someone done that to you? You tend to seriously exaggerate.
In all seriousness I exposed you years ago and got you banned on Wikipedia. Sorry but you deserved it. You were not on Wikipedia to build an encyclopedia. As Tim Farley pointed out you never had any constructive edits.
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
Hi person impersonating Wikipedia editor Manul,
Nope.
Everything posted on Wikipedia has third-party falsifiable evidence with direct links to the actual events.
That's not what the actual data shows.
That's not what the data shows
Yes, absolutely anyone can file an FBI report. That's the point, it is a matter of public record and testimony. Filing a false report is a felony in the US. Please let me know who filed those reports? That would be great further evidence for law enforcement and a slam dunk. Thx in advance!
What is illegal is impersonations, blackmail, harassment, and email threats.
I'll trust my attorneys on that one, thanks
Yet they continue to target and harass me years later, keeping the case fresh.
dudester - this comment is the definition of gaslighting. By referring to my general claims as a "conspiracy theory" constructed by an "internet crank" and claiming i am "making it all up" or "exaggerating"
I'm many things, but all the things I am I have integrity with. If I am playing a prank or a joke, I'm transparent about it and years ago I was an actual comedy writer, professionally. I got paid to it.You're trying to suggest that since I have a comedy background, that menas everything I do is a prank. That's really silly logic.
WWHP and my work with aiki wiki is not a joke.
Sure, I believe you.
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
let's have a wake up call, eh?
NO one knew about this in 2013. Way too complex to communicate and detail.
Now, in 2017, close to 100,000 are aware of it to some varying degree, with a solid five hundred from within the Wikipedia and Wikimedia community continuing to revisit each and every single month following the story.
You are the gift that keeps on giving, truly.
WWHP would not have gone viral without you. Valuable research into toxic consensus building would not be learned with you Farley and Gerard and the rest.
Oh...and I've barely started!
Just wait until aiki wiki launches.
Cheers
1 AntillesCat 2017-11-20
I'm willing to be charitable towards one such mistake/typo, but when it happens throughout I just assume the writer is stupid, which you seem to be.
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
Hi freshly minted reddit account/troll.
1 SarahJane1968 2017-11-20
I just Googled your username "23canaries" and this comes up:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Rome_Viharo
"Prior to his antics on Wikipedia, Viharo trolled online message-boards and forums that also resulted in bans. His various usernames include Bubblefish, PillyM, WWHP, Tumbleman, 23canaries, and hoofish."
It appears you are the troll 23canaries with countless different usernames. Various groups on Reddit have banned you from commenting (You have been banned from the Rationalwiki and Skeptic boards). You do not have a good online reputation.
1 23canaries 2017-11-20
yeah, that's all BS bizarro world misinformation you pretend you're not involved with, and we just covered right here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/7eczp8/so_an_atheist_a_muslim_a_fruitarian_and_a/dqaupp9/
1 PaidWikipediaSkeptic 2017-11-20
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1 23canaries 2017-11-20
your loss.
1 TheJustinBieberfan 2017-11-20
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1 WikipediaWeHaveAProb 2017-11-20
dude who just replied to my friend 23canaries is a well known online sociopath with a freshly created reddit account. dont fall for it