They want America to be like Russia - White, Poor, Isolated, and addicted to opiates.
How the fuck have Democrats still
still
not learned
that people voted for Trump BECAUSE of
They want America to be like Russia - White, Poor, Isolated, and addicted to opiates.
and because the Government did nothing to help him.
Why do they think people want a wall to stop their sons from buying Heroin after they got addicted to the pills the Government said weren't addictive and safe to use.
People didn't vote for the guy who said he'd kill their Jobs wow how amazing, never seen a politician promise Jobs before.
Yes, most people on Reddit (and that goes for the Trumptards too) only became politically aware during Obama's second term.
You can tell because these dumbarses are behaving exactly the same as the 'Obama is a secret commie Muslim' or the 'Bush will cancel the election!' people from years past, retard-tier conspiracy theories that are inevitably going to look ridiculous when Trump steps down in 3 to 7 years time.
If Amerifats are dump enough to believe Trump, then they deserve what they get.
At least the Dems are honest about the fact that those people are fucked, coal is never coming back, and all that meth is home-grown, not brought in by Mexicans.
You need to do some research if you are going to serious post on /r/Drama because right now you're just someone posting things they know nothing about.
Here's a bloomburg article if you don't feel like reading a 600page report to Congress by the
State Department showing i'm right and you're a fucking idiot
You don't even know that all those people couldn't afford pharmaceuticals after they hiked the prices ( Thanks Obamacare) and that's what has caused the drug crisis
About 80 percent of people who use heroin first misused prescription opioids
You realize this makes the opposite of your point, right? Do you know how math works?
Roughly 21 to 29 percent of patients prescribed opioids for chronic pain misuse them.6
Between 8 and 12 percent develop an opioid use disorder.7–9
An estimated 4 to 6 percent who misuse prescription opioids transition to heroin.7–9
About 80 percent of people who use heroin first misused prescription opioids.7
Let's say 1,000 patients are prescribed opioids.
300 ("roughly 29 percent") of those go on to abuse them.
18 ("estimated 4 to 6 percent") of those people will transition to heroin.
An additional 5 people will use heroin without first misusing prescription opioids. ("80 percent of people who use heroin first misused prescription opioids").
You're correct that heroin comes from Mexico, but that's about the only thing you're correct about. According to the numbers above, you're freaking out about the 23 people who use heroin, while ignoring the 300 people abusing other opioids.
You realize this makes the opposite of your point, right?
My point about Heroin Users
you're freaking out about the 23 people who use heroin, while ignoring the 300 people abusing other opioids.
Yes
Because I'm talking
about Heroin Users
Why do they think people want a wall to stop their sons from buying Heroin after they got addicted to the pills the Government said weren't addictive and safe to use.
I know English is like your 4th Language because you're a fancy Euro but it should be pretty obvious that Soccer Moms who take a few extra pain pills isn't a Voting bloc
People aren't motivated to vote for the guy who says he's taking away your happy pillls they are motivated to vote for the guy who's getting rid of the drug that is ruining your life and your community.
The 300 people abusing prescription drugs also aren't
You know using Heroin, most of them are functioning.
it's just weird that you're so fixated on it
My cousin was a Heroin Dealer, ruined his life and 30 other peoples.
Got addicted to Opiates they said weren't addictive, couldn't afford them changed to the cheap and plentiful drug. Story that's happened to Millions of people but why would I care it's only 23/300 people there's no use trying to help millions of people.
> I'm a dumb europoor who thinks the government works so fast it can accomplish literally anything within a month.
You know it takes more then a month for the goverment to get a new printer right?
Thanks for admitting I was right about everything and you were wrong tho big of you even if you are linking a wordpress blog about a guy who remembers the 80s in 2017
RemindMe! 2 years 'Is America still a burnt out junie warehouse?'
Btw, in the rest of the world, governments actually do accomplish things. But that's mostly because they're lucky enough not to have Americans for voters.
Meanwhile, you fuckwits can't even get the power back on in Puerto Rico two months later.
2 Years is surely enough time to combat a drug epidemic,
This is part of what makes you so retarded. America's been fighting its futile drug war for what, 40 years now? But thank god Trump is here to fix it.
I don't really hate America. I just think it has structural and cultural issues that make it particularly ill-prepared for what's coming.
America used to be the place for manufacturing work, but China is kicking the shit out of you at that game. Major sectors of employment in the US economy are transportation (driving trucks) and accessory healthcare (dumping bedpans for old people). Automation is going to devastate employment for tens of millions of people, and finish hollowing out the parts of your country that were already gutted by de-industrialization. Climate change is going to fuck up your coastal areas something fierce.
It's kind of tragic, actually, except that you're (you, collectively, not that you personally will fix it) too stubborn to acknowledge it or do anything about it. A sane county might be trying to brace for what's coming: expanding social safety nets, redistributing wealth from robot-owners to the robot-replaced, treat the drug epidemic like the public health crisis it is.
But instead, Americans will blame scapegoats, further cut taxes on the wealthy and pretend climate change isn't happening. I don't hate you, but you deserve what you're going to get.
You seem really unwilling to acknowledge the fact that nobody is going to fix the opiate epidemic you're worried about. I've pointed that out several times so far, and every time you ignore it or sidestep it. Do you really think that Trump / the government / anyone is going to fix it? How can you possibly believe that?
Well fuck we better just do nothing because there is no hope and no matter what we are all going to die some day and let the country become Europe.
No wonder Hitler took everything over jesus.
pretend climate change
America has done more work on Climate Change then any other country in the world lol, Where do you think Tesla is? It's us and the Japs, the rest of you aren't doing shit.
You people don't even have Gardens or Composting anymore
How's Your Emission Tests going? Your Government Still lying about how great for the Environment your cars are because they took bribes?
America is not going to be made great again. America is going to continue getting shittier. Your adult life will be worse than your childhood, and if you have children, their lives will probably be worse than yours was.
The sooner you admit this to yourself, the sooner you can stop being angry and accept it.
Thanks, it's too bad your country oppressed all your natives instead of learning how not to die from them, is there a german version of Thanksgiving? Like the Polish taught you guys how to make sausage before you killed them all?
But you should really read that wordpress blog. It will help you understand why nobody from the dwindling sliver of America that still has money is ever going to help you or your family. It doesn't matter whether they're Democrats or Republicans: there's no percentage in it.
Trump's just a better liar, and I guess that's enough for you.
You can try and argue nationalism is a bad thing, but to argue the US was never nationalist is beyond retarded.
oh, but people immigrated there
People immigrated to the rest of the New World, too. People immigrated to fucking Russia and Germany. Are they gonna try and argue they weren't nationalist either?
52 comments
1 Sophistrycated 2017-11-21
u/jef_snow where did you learn US history?
1 Think_Once 2017-11-21
Probably a Canadian university.
1 Matues49 2017-11-21
Yeah but isn't Canada a frozen, far-off American province? The one you purchased from Russia, right?
1 trjb 2017-11-21
This is rural America already though.
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2017-11-21
/u/jef_snow obviously did that intentionally. I would hate (I wouldn't) to hear if any of your relatives OD'd
1 trjb 2017-11-21
OD'd and died, or just OD'd?
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2017-11-21
Fixed
1 neveryousay3 2017-11-21
Also....russians are addicted to vodka and cheap fruit wine...get your facts right, you xenophobic bastards.
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2017-11-21
He said Opiates intentionally to have a dig at those suffering (either personally or their community) through the crisis in rural America
1 neveryousay3 2017-11-21
Oh 😱...sorry then.
Still, he sounds like some lonely, mayo dude who is addicted to opiates himself.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2017-11-21
Don't forget the krokodil
1 neveryousay3 2017-11-21
Ah yes, the good old "zombie drug".
1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-11-21
How the fuck have Democrats still
still
not learned
that people voted for Trump BECAUSE of
and because the Government did nothing to help him.
Why do they think people want a wall to stop their sons from buying Heroin after they got addicted to the pills the Government said weren't addictive and safe to use.
People didn't vote for the guy who said he'd kill their Jobs wow how amazing, never seen a politician promise Jobs before.
Is it literally these peoples first election?
1 GoblinVapes 2017-11-21
Yes.
1 Thulean-Dragon 2017-11-21
Yes, most people on Reddit (and that goes for the Trumptards too) only became politically aware during Obama's second term.
You can tell because these dumbarses are behaving exactly the same as the 'Obama is a secret commie Muslim' or the 'Bush will cancel the election!' people from years past, retard-tier conspiracy theories that are inevitably going to look ridiculous when Trump steps down in 3 to 7 years time.
1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-11-21
Bill Clinton is a Papist, Infowars dot.com
1 Redactor0 2017-11-21
When Slicky Willy heard there was something called "The Whore of Babylon" he knew he had to get his hands on it.
1 geraldodelrivero 2017-11-21
Infocrusade.com*
1 RhymeToes 2017-11-21
If Amerifats are dump enough to believe Trump, then they deserve what they get.
At least the Dems are honest about the fact that those people are fucked, coal is never coming back, and all that meth is home-grown, not brought in by Mexicans.
1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-11-21
> Here's my opinion on Poor Americans even thou i'm so out of touch I don't even know what drugs they use
> I'm a complete retard who think people addicted to Opiates are Methheads
Typical Limousine Liberal
1 RhymeToes 2017-11-21
A lot of opiate addicts are hooked on pharmaceuticals (e.g. oxy), and those don't come from Mexico either.
Explain to me again how lying to the rubes and pretending that the government is going to help them is good politics?
1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-11-21
Okay pal.
You need to do some research if you are going to serious post on /r/Drama because right now you're just someone posting things they know nothing about.
Here's a bloomburg article if you don't feel like reading a 600page report to Congress by the State Department showing i'm right and you're a fucking idiot
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-03/america-s-heroin-epidemic-starts-in-mexico
You don't even know that all those people couldn't afford pharmaceuticals after they hiked the prices ( Thanks Obamacare) and that's what has caused the drug crisis
1 RhymeToes 2017-11-21
Also, your retard wall isn't going to stop drug trafficking, anyway.
1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-11-21
Why do Europeans try to talk about a place they know nothing about?
Considering you are wrong about everything else you talk about it's a pretty good sign it will work then.
1 RhymeToes 2017-11-21
You realize this makes the opposite of your point, right? Do you know how math works?
Let's say 1,000 patients are prescribed opioids.
300 ("roughly 29 percent") of those go on to abuse them.
18 ("estimated 4 to 6 percent") of those people will transition to heroin.
An additional 5 people will use heroin without first misusing prescription opioids. ("80 percent of people who use heroin first misused prescription opioids").
You're correct that heroin comes from Mexico, but that's about the only thing you're correct about. According to the numbers above, you're freaking out about the 23 people who use heroin, while ignoring the 300 people abusing other opioids.
1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-11-21
My point about Heroin Users
Yes
Because I'm talking
about Heroin Users
I know English is like your 4th Language because you're a fancy Euro but it should be pretty obvious that Soccer Moms who take a few extra pain pills isn't a Voting bloc
People aren't motivated to vote for the guy who says he's taking away your happy pillls they are motivated to vote for the guy who's getting rid of the drug that is ruining your life and your community.
The 300 people abusing prescription drugs also aren't
You know using Heroin, most of them are functioning.
My cousin was a Heroin Dealer, ruined his life and 30 other peoples.
Got addicted to Opiates they said weren't addictive, couldn't afford them changed to the cheap and plentiful drug. Story that's happened to Millions of people but why would I care it's only 23/300 people there's no use trying to help millions of people.
1 RhymeToes 2017-11-21
Ok, but you know Trump isn't going to do shit, right?
You're basically just mad that the democrats aren't as shameless about lying.
Because, real talk, nothing is going to fix your busted-ass country
1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-11-21
> I'm a dumb europoor who thinks the government works so fast it can accomplish literally anything within a month.
You know it takes more then a month for the goverment to get a new printer right?
Thanks for admitting I was right about everything and you were wrong tho big of you even if you are linking a wordpress blog about a guy who remembers the 80s in 2017
1 RhymeToes 2017-11-21
RemindMe! 2 years 'Is America still a burnt out junie warehouse?'
Btw, in the rest of the world, governments actually do accomplish things. But that's mostly because they're lucky enough not to have Americans for voters.
Meanwhile, you fuckwits can't even get the power back on in Puerto Rico two months later.
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1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-11-21
> Being so mad you reply twice
> Thinks Puerto Rico is real america
> Us civilized Europeans don't have a drug problem
> This will surely be the end of America says Pounce for the 300th year
Please tell me more about how you hate America and why that makes things you say soooo important.
1 RhymeToes 2017-11-21
This is part of what makes you so retarded. America's been fighting its futile drug war for what, 40 years now? But thank god Trump is here to fix it.
I don't really hate America. I just think it has structural and cultural issues that make it particularly ill-prepared for what's coming.
America used to be the place for manufacturing work, but China is kicking the shit out of you at that game. Major sectors of employment in the US economy are transportation (driving trucks) and accessory healthcare (dumping bedpans for old people). Automation is going to devastate employment for tens of millions of people, and finish hollowing out the parts of your country that were already gutted by de-industrialization. Climate change is going to fuck up your coastal areas something fierce.
It's kind of tragic, actually, except that you're (you, collectively, not that you personally will fix it) too stubborn to acknowledge it or do anything about it. A sane county might be trying to brace for what's coming: expanding social safety nets, redistributing wealth from robot-owners to the robot-replaced, treat the drug epidemic like the public health crisis it is.
But instead, Americans will blame scapegoats, further cut taxes on the wealthy and pretend climate change isn't happening. I don't hate you, but you deserve what you're going to get.
You seem really unwilling to acknowledge the fact that nobody is going to fix the opiate epidemic you're worried about. I've pointed that out several times so far, and every time you ignore it or sidestep it. Do you really think that Trump / the government / anyone is going to fix it? How can you possibly believe that?
1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-11-21
Well fuck we better just do nothing because there is no hope and no matter what we are all going to die some day and let the country become Europe.
No wonder Hitler took everything over jesus.
America has done more work on Climate Change then any other country in the world lol, Where do you think Tesla is? It's us and the Japs, the rest of you aren't doing shit.
You people don't even have Gardens or Composting anymore
How's Your Emission Tests going? Your Government Still lying about how great for the Environment your cars are because they took bribes?
1 RhymeToes 2017-11-21
This but unironically.
America is not going to be made great again. America is going to continue getting shittier. Your adult life will be worse than your childhood, and if you have children, their lives will probably be worse than yours was.
The sooner you admit this to yourself, the sooner you can stop being angry and accept it.
1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-11-21
dude Americans don't care what people from a country who've never been to the moon think.
Your country is shittier then America fix your own shit instead of just being a bitter hater lol
1 RhymeToes 2017-11-21
Happy Thanksgiving, you delusional halfwit.
1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-11-21
Thanks, it's too bad your country oppressed all your natives instead of learning how not to die from them, is there a german version of Thanksgiving? Like the Polish taught you guys how to make sausage before you killed them all?
1 RhymeToes 2017-11-21
But you should really read that wordpress blog. It will help you understand why nobody from the dwindling sliver of America that still has money is ever going to help you or your family. It doesn't matter whether they're Democrats or Republicans: there's no percentage in it.
Trump's just a better liar, and I guess that's enough for you.
1 Oh_hamburgers_ 2017-11-21
Lol, USA was a nationalist isolationist country for 200 years, what the hell are they talking about?
1 Thulean-Dragon 2017-11-21
You can try and argue nationalism is a bad thing, but to argue the US was never nationalist is beyond retarded.
People immigrated to the rest of the New World, too. People immigrated to fucking Russia and Germany. Are they gonna try and argue they weren't nationalist either?
1 rewind45 2017-11-21
US is not nationalistic, it is very patriotic but not nationalist.
1 grep_var_log 2017-11-21
Same thing, dummy.
1 RhymeToes 2017-11-21
Might want to check your calendar there, fam. America was definitely not "isolationist" up until 1976.
1 Oh_hamburgers_ 2017-11-21
I rounded up, the point remains.
1 neveryousay3 2017-11-21
Holy fuck...he's fucking crazy...but also he DOES sound like the people he hates.
C'mon cowboy, at least be a polite grandstanding idiot, you know that you can pretend to care, don't ya?
1 serialflamingo 2017-11-21
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1 neveryousay3 2017-11-21
Papa Putin is watching you while you are in the shower.....🤓.
1 serialflamingo 2017-11-21
I refuse to call a manlet "papa".
1 ltedt 2017-11-21
B O T S
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1 Strictlybutters 2017-11-21
Be stronk like Mother Russia
1 worthlessworthl 2017-11-21
Neck yourself OP.
1 rewind45 2017-11-21
Nationalism is un American, but to be fair so is communism but a lot of retards still try to push it in the US.
1 Neronoah 2017-11-21
Natuonalism is communism for rightwingers.
1 DudeCat 2017-11-21
I swear to God, for a group that is so focused on racial politics, they have no fucking clue.