Name calling, ah, I see you too are a man of culture.
u/ahad102, his culture is the same as yours so I don't think that insult works as well as you think
Also, it's pretty clear he's right:
[Quran 2:221] Do not marry idolatresses unless they believe; a believing woman is better than an idolatress, even if you like her. Nor shall you give your daughters in marriage to idolatrous men, unless they believe. A believing man is better than an idolater, even if you like him. These invite to Hell, while God invites to Paradise and forgiveness, as He wills. He clarifies His revelations for the people, that they may take heed.
[Quran 4:25] Those among you who cannot afford to marry free believing women, may marry believing slave women. God knows best about your belief, and you are equal to one another, as far as belief is concerned. You shall obtain permission from their guardians before you marry them, and pay them their due dowry equitably. They shall maintain moral behavior, by not committing adultery, or having secret lovers. Once they are freed through marriage, if they commit adultery, their punishment shall be half of that for the free women.* Marrying a slave shall be a last resort for those unable to wait. To be patient is better for you. God is Forgiver, Most Merciful.
According to all four schools of Sunni law and Shia law, interfaith marriages are condoned only between a Muslim male and a non-Muslim female from the People of the Book (that is, Christians and Jews) and not vice versa.
But Samaritans are people of the book. They only follow the Torah. They consider Judaism to be an offshoot of their more ancient religion. But they don't qualify?
You know what's funny? When they say "syed", they mean someone descended from the Prophet Muhammad.
It's much more likely that someone bullshitted their genealogy down the line (I've read about some people arguing that the Prophet possibly never existed too), but people are so proud of it.
It's funny when every other South Asian Muslim calls themselves a Syed, Qureshi, Siddiqui or whatever. I mean realistically a very small percentage of them are descended from the Quraysh considering their respective racial makeups, but people are so militant about this meaningless BS.
The "Syeds" take it too far. Nowhere in Islam does it say a "Syed" can only or should only marry a "Syed". That's made up ish by the "Syeds". It's wrong. It's not what Islam endorses.
Once long ago I accidentally got an Indian action movie and I figured, what the hell, why not watch it? I remember the Pakistani villain saying "I hate all Indians... even the Muslims!"
u/Batman_Lambo what's it like being a living caricature of a Pakistani straight out of a Hindu propaganda movie?
The party has a powerful hold over the Bollywood film industry.[12] It has been referred to as an "extremist",[13][14] "chauvinist",[15][16] as well as a "fascist party".[17][18] Shiv Sena has been blamed for the 1970 communal violence in Bhiwandi, the 1984 Bhiwandi riot and violence in the 1992-1993 Bombay riots.[19][20]
I don't hate them. I frown upon them. And not all the Indian Muslims. Just the ones that support India's fascist, racist and anti-Muslim ideologies (especially in Kashmir and against Pakistan).
So they're supposed to be totally cool with the terrorist attack in Bombay? Did the shooters there check to make sure the victims weren't Muslim before murdering them?
Not sure if there's a poll out there. I'd love to see a poll myself. I've heard of some polls which say that something like ~75% of Kashmiris in J&K want to be a part of Pakistan. But don't take my word for it. I can't find anything online.
This Kashmir issue has been going on for 70+ years now. 100,000 Kashmiris have been killed by India.
The following is a timeline of the Kashmir conflict, a territorial conflict between India, Pakistan and, to a lesser degree, China. Several wars have been fought over this territory.
2016–17 Kashmir unrest
The 2016–17 unrest in Kashmir, also known as the Burhan aftermath, refers to a series of violent protests in the Kashmir Valley of the Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir. It started with the killing of Burhan Wani, a commander of the Kashmir-based Islamic militant organisation Hizbul Mujahideen, by Indian security forces on 8 July 2016. After his killing, anti-Indian protests started in all 10 districts of the Kashmir Valley. Protesters defied curfew with attacks on security forces and public properties.
Don't know why all you losers have an obsession with Pakistan. But, it is what it is. Muslims are not allowed to marry Hindus (unless they convert obviously).
And, Muslim men are only allowed to marry Muslim women, Christian women or Jewish women. Muslim women are only allowed to marry Muslim men. That's what God orders in the Quran. It's a major sin. And unlike committing private sins (e.g; fornication or eating non-halal meat etc.), marrying outside of bounds set by Islam is a big sin (it not only affects the person doing it, but the family, future generations, and society).
If it's triggering you, that's not my problem, losers.
Fake news. Stop with this BS. I don't have the time to respond to this.
if anyone's reading this: Everything's online. Kashmiris have been given the right to self-determination by the United Nations. Don't listen to biased and lying Indians online. Do your research.
The state of Kashmir is an integral part of secular India, it was provided significant autonomy under Article 370 of the Indian constitution so they have self determination. Face it Pakistan is just stirring up trouble in the region so they can pretend to have the moral highground and steal what is rightfully Indian land. Why can't you just admit you're wrong?
The UN accepts the Indian position in resolution 1172 and urges both parties to resolve their differences through discussion. Why can't you accept reality?
Conveniently forgot the subsequent resolutions? Classic Indian thing to do.
Pakistan should withdraw so India can take over more land illegally? Give the Kashmiris their right to self-determination. Let them decide, "world's biggest democracy".
Ok you know what I'm bored of this. I literally just went onto the Kashmir conflict page of Wikipedia and just paraphrased the official Indian position to you. Thats it, thats all I did. So breathe, relax, no one here cares about some valley far away.
Seriously? This is going to be a big problem for dating. So far I've only been with one muslim woman, and honestly I had my doubts about her devoutness.
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1 200thacct 2017-11-28
Islam was a mistake
1 Aimless_Drifter 2017-11-28
also /u/batarider2, this is never gonna work out between you two and her family and friends would shun her and cut off all ties with her.
on the other hand, both of you are so retarded, you're properly a match made in kek-heaven.
1 incineratechicken 2017-11-28
u/ahad102, his culture is the same as yours so I don't think that insult works as well as you think
Also, it's pretty clear he's right:
inshallah or whatever the fuck you towelies say
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
The title of this sh!t-post is misleading. Christian and Jewish women are allowed. Others (Hindu/Sikh/Buddhists/Atheists etc.) are not allowed.
For Muslim women, only Muslim men are allowed.
1 becauseiliketoupvote 2017-11-28
What about Mormons?
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
No: https://fatwa.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=87946
1 becauseiliketoupvote 2017-11-28
How about Samaritans?
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
No. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interfaith_marriage_in_Islam
1 WikiTextBot 2017-11-28
Interfaith marriage in Islam
According to all four schools of Sunni law and Shia law, interfaith marriages are condoned only between a Muslim male and a non-Muslim female from the People of the Book (that is, Christians and Jews) and not vice versa.
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1 becauseiliketoupvote 2017-11-28
But Samaritans are people of the book. They only follow the Torah. They consider Judaism to be an offshoot of their more ancient religion. But they don't qualify?
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
They might actually. I'm not exactly sure.
1 safyan36 2017-11-28
Looks like someone's triggered.
1 Koolin123 2017-11-28
How come it's always South Asians that care about this inane bullshit?
Pakis and poo in the loos are literally the same people. Get over yourselves.
1 shallowm 2017-11-28
You know what's funny? When they say "syed", they mean someone descended from the Prophet Muhammad.
It's much more likely that someone bullshitted their genealogy down the line (I've read about some people arguing that the Prophet possibly never existed too), but people are so proud of it.
1 YHofSuburbia 2017-11-28
It's funny when every other South Asian Muslim calls themselves a Syed, Qureshi, Siddiqui or whatever. I mean realistically a very small percentage of them are descended from the Quraysh considering their respective racial makeups, but people are so militant about this meaningless BS.
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
The "Syeds" take it too far. Nowhere in Islam does it say a "Syed" can only or should only marry a "Syed". That's made up ish by the "Syeds". It's wrong. It's not what Islam endorses.
1 bakchodiifucboii 2017-11-28
Muslim poo in loo and poo in loo*
1 Aimless_Drifter 2017-11-28
woke af👌👌
1 Redactor0 2017-11-28
Once long ago I accidentally got an Indian action movie and I figured, what the hell, why not watch it? I remember the Pakistani villain saying "I hate all Indians... even the Muslims!"
u/Batman_Lambo what's it like being a living caricature of a Pakistani straight out of a Hindu propaganda movie?
1 Aimless_Drifter 2017-11-28
ackchully, 3 most famous actors in bollywood are muslims
shahrukh khan (imitated by luthor in bvs)
amir khan
salman khan
plus literally hundreds of artists in bollywood, dozens of them were written by salim-javed.
then there's bunch of cricketers and other sports players, writers, and politicians who are muslims.
but yeah, they're probably traitors because they support the country that gave them wealth and fame.
1 Thhueros 2017-11-28
Are Muslims in Bollywood the equivalent of Jews in Hollywood?
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
Equivalent of clowns in a circus. Only there to entertain the rest of India.
Shiv Sena extremist Hindus have the real power in Bollywood.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiv_Sena
The party has a powerful hold over the Bollywood film industry.[12] It has been referred to as an "extremist",[13][14] "chauvinist",[15][16] as well as a "fascist party".[17][18] Shiv Sena has been blamed for the 1970 communal violence in Bhiwandi, the 1984 Bhiwandi riot and violence in the 1992-1993 Bombay riots.[19][20]
1 Aimless_Drifter 2017-11-28
they don't give awards to holocaust movies if that's what you're asking.
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
I don't hate them. I frown upon them. And not all the Indian Muslims. Just the ones that support India's fascist, racist and anti-Muslim ideologies (especially in Kashmir and against Pakistan).
1 Aimless_Drifter 2017-11-28
lol
1 safyan36 2017-11-28
You really need to stop posting about the Pakistan sub. Obsessed little Indian
1 Aimless_Drifter 2017-11-28
no
1 Redactor0 2017-11-28
So they're supposed to be totally cool with the terrorist attack in Bombay? Did the shooters there check to make sure the victims weren't Muslim before murdering them?
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
That's a different topic.
1 becauseiliketoupvote 2017-11-28
If/when Pakistan gains control of Kashmir will cashmere sweaters go on discount? I'll support your politics if so.
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
Yea, I'll make sure we put 'em on discount. Support it.
1 becauseiliketoupvote 2017-11-28
Can Kazakhstan get the Punjab?
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
Sure if the Punjab residents want to be a part of Kazakhstan.
1 becauseiliketoupvote 2017-11-28
Do the Kashmiri want to be part of Pakistan? Can you source recent representative polls and/or votes to support that?
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
Not sure if there's a poll out there. I'd love to see a poll myself. I've heard of some polls which say that something like ~75% of Kashmiris in J&K want to be a part of Pakistan. But don't take my word for it. I can't find anything online.
This Kashmir issue has been going on for 70+ years now. 100,000 Kashmiris have been killed by India.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Kashmir_conflict
There was recently a big uprising last year too where thousands of Kashmiris were blinded by Indian forces;
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E2%80%9317_Kashmir_unrest
1 WikiTextBot 2017-11-28
Timeline of the Kashmir conflict
The following is a timeline of the Kashmir conflict, a territorial conflict between India, Pakistan and, to a lesser degree, China. Several wars have been fought over this territory.
2016–17 Kashmir unrest
The 2016–17 unrest in Kashmir, also known as the Burhan aftermath, refers to a series of violent protests in the Kashmir Valley of the Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir. It started with the killing of Burhan Wani, a commander of the Kashmir-based Islamic militant organisation Hizbul Mujahideen, by Indian security forces on 8 July 2016. After his killing, anti-Indian protests started in all 10 districts of the Kashmir Valley. Protesters defied curfew with attacks on security forces and public properties.
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1 becauseiliketoupvote 2017-11-28
Thanks for your honesty on that part.
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
Of course:)
1 Cephaliarch 2017-11-28
this is a man who cares about what really matters in a relationship
1 PussMonster_ 2017-11-28
Fucking L O L
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
Don't know why all you losers have an obsession with Pakistan. But, it is what it is. Muslims are not allowed to marry Hindus (unless they convert obviously).
And, Muslim men are only allowed to marry Muslim women, Christian women or Jewish women. Muslim women are only allowed to marry Muslim men. That's what God orders in the Quran. It's a major sin. And unlike committing private sins (e.g; fornication or eating non-halal meat etc.), marrying outside of bounds set by Islam is a big sin (it not only affects the person doing it, but the family, future generations, and society).
If it's triggering you, that's not my problem, losers.
1 Aimless_Drifter 2017-11-28
😵😨😰
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
You really need a life, pal. Get out of the house for once. The real world is outside of the interwebs.
1 Aimless_Drifter 2017-11-28
no
1 Aimless_Drifter 2017-11-28
and judging by your posts, i'm not your pal
1 cleverseneca 2017-11-28
Kashmir is part of India per the Instrument of Accession. The Maharaja legaly signed J&K over to India, get over it.
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
Fake news. Stop with this BS. I don't have the time to respond to this.
if anyone's reading this: Everything's online. Kashmiris have been given the right to self-determination by the United Nations. Don't listen to biased and lying Indians online. Do your research.
1 Aimless_Drifter 2017-11-28
aren't you canadian? why are you so triggered by what happens in india and pakistan?
1 cleverseneca 2017-11-28
The state of Kashmir is an integral part of secular India, it was provided significant autonomy under Article 370 of the Indian constitution so they have self determination. Face it Pakistan is just stirring up trouble in the region so they can pretend to have the moral highground and steal what is rightfully Indian land. Why can't you just admit you're wrong?
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
The United Nations thinks otherwise. Why can't you people stop lying?
1 cleverseneca 2017-11-28
The UN accepts the Indian position in resolution 1172 and urges both parties to resolve their differences through discussion. Why can't you accept reality?
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
The UN commands India to give the Kashmiris their right to self-determination: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_mediation_of_the_Kashmir_dispute
Why doesn't India give them that right? Why doesn't let UN observers in Indian occupied Kashmir?
1 cleverseneca 2017-11-28
Pakistan has failed to withdraw its forces what is India supposes to do? Anyway resolution 47 is obselete (1948).
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
Conveniently forgot the subsequent resolutions? Classic Indian thing to do.
Pakistan should withdraw so India can take over more land illegally? Give the Kashmiris their right to self-determination. Let them decide, "world's biggest democracy".
1 cleverseneca 2017-11-28
And by "self determine" you of course mean "let insurgents infiltrate and manipulate."
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
No, let the Kashmiris decide their future with a vote.
1 cleverseneca 2017-11-28
Ok you know what I'm bored of this. I literally just went onto the Kashmir conflict page of Wikipedia and just paraphrased the official Indian position to you. Thats it, thats all I did. So breathe, relax, no one here cares about some valley far away.
1 fayeDragon 2017-11-28
I care tho, it's a great Zepp song
1 GaymasterNacelle 2017-11-28
Very unfair!
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
It is what it is. I didn't make the rules. God did.
1 becauseiliketoupvote 2017-11-28
But why did he make that rule?
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
Some things us humans will never fully understand.
1 becauseiliketoupvote 2017-11-28
So, um, why follow it? Why would we have reason if it stands on the way of right religion?
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
Because we are limited in our thinking and intelligence. We will never know everything.
1 becauseiliketoupvote 2017-11-28
What bias? Most here aren't Muslims, thinking strict endogamy is silly ain't some anti-Muslim prejudice.
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
It's not meant as an anti-Muslim thing. It's more-so meant as protecting family values and religious beliefs as far as I understand.
1 becauseiliketoupvote 2017-11-28
But us not caring about your endogamy rules ain't a bias. You told me to check my bias, what did you mean?
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
The racist word towellies was not needed.
1 becauseiliketoupvote 2017-11-28
I'll give you that. Hey, what happens if someone converts to Hinduism after marriage?
1 Batman_Lambo 2017-11-28
I think the marriage then becomes void.
1 ffbtaw 2017-11-28
All gussy is haram.
1 SamWhite 2017-11-28
Seriously? This is going to be a big problem for dating. So far I've only been with one muslim woman, and honestly I had my doubts about her devoutness.