What I've learned from that thread is that if a white guy calls someone a nigga, you're racist if you question that in even the slightest way. I'm getting pretty sure I crossed into the mirror universe sometime in the last couple years.
Gettin woke on dey translogical psycholinguistic bioinformatics
By Dave Wilson, P.h.d.
Abstract
Yo we bin studdy n' da woke ass shit wit DNA n shiiet. Set up da hole dayum studdy n' had sum controles and foun out y u aint look at no DNA widd out da biases n' shiet so we figger cuz we got all dis payper n shiet dat we do a studdy. See logic lik fyre n shiet it like u gotta controle fo yo pre prograymed prejuices n keepn shit reel. Ay yo so weez like 'wud if we mayde a studdy n' shiet" an dis hole thing is like shieeeeet.
Dave Wilson is Chairman of the AAVE Center for Bio-Linguistic Gender Justice Studies. He received four doctorates in Bio-Linguistic Pan-European Decolonization Studies and is the 2017 recipient of the National Recognition for Wokeness and Enrichment Award.
Record wey concern economy and money matter show say Nigerian workers dey earn small money on top dia minimum wage. Di minimum wage na di least salary wey any worker suppose collect for Nigeria.
You know what AAVE. We all know what AAVE. AAVE is what is described by the uneducated as “how the younger crowd talks” AAVE has been commercialized and normalized to be seen as something that is hip, trendy, and happening. AAVE is used by companies on social media and in advertising and marketing as a way to appeal to the younger audience and sell to the “millennials”AAVE is used heavily in the gay community especially and overwritten as “gay slang” when really it came from black gay men and not gays of any other color. AAVE has been spread globally to the point where people who have never stepped foot on American soil or met a black American know our slang like the back of their hand, and they may or may not know where it comes from, but I’m here to tell you its a language. AAVE is our language, and apart of our black culture.
So what is AAVE? What does AAVE even stand for? African American Vernacular English (AAVE) is a variety (dialect, ethnolect and sociolect) of American English, most commonly spoken today by urban working-class and largely bi-dialectal middle-class African Americans. In simpler terms it is the language that black people speak, and or how black people speak. AAVE has a rich culture rooting back to when black Americans were enslaved. Slaves invented their own separate version of English to speak with other slaves to form a sense of unity and identity and communication without white people interfering. AAVE to the uncultured ear might not sound like “proper English” but it is in fact proper English, just English spoken in a dialect significant to black American people. AAVE was and still is our culture. It was our way to let another black person know that we are here for each other. It was a way for black people to get messages across that they didn’t want white people being aware of. It was a way for black people who had their African roots forcibly stripped to assimilate to European ways for slave labor usage to form a new cultural identity among our people. It is our language.
So why is it such a big deal if other people use AAVE? Ill put it like this. If I as a black person became obsessed with how Asian people talk, and how they pronounced English words, and paraded myself around speaking like this because I thought it made me appear cooler, trendier, maybe even harder and or more intimidating without knowing the history or the meaning of half of these terms it would be seen as extremely culturally insensitive and disrespectful to the Asian community. Why cant the same be seen for AAVE? Because black culture has been commercialized. Black language is taken and sold to the masses as “If you talk like this you’re cool.” or “Talking like this is trendy” and it is extremely uncomfortable for black people. “Why cant I talk like this? Its just words. It isn’t that serious. Whats the big deal if we want to talk like this” Its not who you are. Its not apart of your culture. Its not how you naturally speak. You aren’t criticized by society as being ghetto and uneducated if you speak like this to the point where you change your voice to sound more “white friendly” anytime you aren’t in your comfort zone. You use AAVE wrong and say things like “bae means before anyone else” when really its just a synonym for baby or babe. You tell us a white gay man invented the word “yas” because of the “Yas Gaga” video that went viral when black people gay or straight have been saying yas since before you were born. You say “Bye Felicia” without knowing who Felicia is, or where the term came from. You tell us “I speak like this because im from the ghetto” When black people who have never even seen a ghetto still talk like that because that language is our language and isnt synonymous with poverty and low income areas. You tell us “but im not white” as if not being white automatically makes you down and gives you access to a culture and history you as a non black person of color have no connection to. You tell us “This is gay slang not black slang” as if the words being said weren’t taken from black gay men by the gay community. Case and point, AAVE is for black people. Its our culture, its our slang, and its not your trend or your way to look tougher for Instagram videos or funnier in Twitter jokes. AAVE may be used by almost everyone these days but that doesnt make it any less sacred or important to black culture. Its not exclusion. Its not segregation. Its not violating freedom of speech. Its not us wanting to keep words to ourselves. Its us saying AAVE is apart of our identity as black people, and we would appreciate it if you would leave it alone.
If I as a black person became obsessed with how Asian people talk, and how they pronounced English words, and paraded myself around speaking like this because I thought it made me appear cooler, trendier, maybe even harder and or more intimidating without knowing the history or the meaning of half of these terms it would be seen as extremely culturally insensitive and disrespectful to the Asian community.
I love this argument. "I have a stick up my ass, so everyone else must too!" As if Koreans are going to freak out if you say a Konglish word like "skinship" and accuse you of cultural appropriation.
As if Koreans are going to freak out if you say a Konglish word like "skinship" and accuse you of cultural appropriation
Um, that's called internalized racism and it exists there because of years of cultural hegemony. The Koreans have internalized the racism against themselves, so that's why they're okay with it. They're literally racist against their own people.
As if Koreans are going to freak out if you say a Konglish word like "skinship" and accuse you of cultural appropriation.
See, I thought so too, but it turns out that asians can get pretty annoyed if you use some of their terminology and language just to try and be friendly. I met a nice little chinaman the other day when I was ordering some noodles and to show I was friendly, I said "Ching-chong-ching-chong" but he just looked at me confused. So I asked him if he knew karate, but he just walked back into the kitchen.
You're supposed to just go into your kung fu stance and he'll know that you want to spar with him to see if your style is better than his. That's the universal language that absolutely 100% of asians speak.
You would need to have lived in an area with actual diversity (i.e. the kind of place liberals hate) to understand why it might seem racist to be really obsessed with whether or not a guy's manner of speaking matches his skin color. You know -- apparently.
So this is not "bad grammar". This is a different dialect of English, specifically AAVE (African American Vernacular English). Everything he said is grammatically correct in that dialect, there are just lexical, phonological, morphological, and syntactic differences between AAVE and General American. The idea that this is bad grammar is historically rooted in prejudices about the people who speak this way.
Poor /= trashy. The real trash in r/trashy is the mods who remove posts with black people in them and sticky posts with totally normal looking people who happen to have a Trump sign in their yard
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1 Redactor0 2017-12-03
What I've learned from that thread is that if a white guy calls someone a nigga, you're racist if you question that in even the slightest way. I'm getting pretty sure I crossed into the mirror universe sometime in the last couple years.
1 SPEZ_AKBAR 2017-12-03
I learned that ebonics is now a good thing if it comes from a woke individual.
1 starship_litterbox 2017-12-03
Gettin woke on dey translogical psycholinguistic bioinformatics
By Dave Wilson, P.h.d.
Abstract
Yo we bin studdy n' da woke ass shit wit DNA n shiiet. Set up da hole dayum studdy n' had sum controles and foun out y u aint look at no DNA widd out da biases n' shiet so we figger cuz we got all dis payper n shiet dat we do a studdy. See logic lik fyre n shiet it like u gotta controle fo yo pre prograymed prejuices n keepn shit reel. Ay yo so weez like 'wud if we mayde a studdy n' shiet" an dis hole thing is like shieeeeet.
Dave Wilson is Chairman of the AAVE Center for Bio-Linguistic Gender Justice Studies. He received four doctorates in Bio-Linguistic Pan-European Decolonization Studies and is the 2017 recipient of the National Recognition for Wokeness and Enrichment Award.
1 im-a-koala 2017-12-03
Reminds me of BBC Pidgin.
1 Fieryfrogs6969blaze 2017-12-03
Record wey concern economy and money matter show say Nigerian workers dey earn small money on top dia minimum wage. Di minimum wage na di least salary wey any worker suppose collect for Nigeria.
This is just beautiful
1 Chancehighfill1 2017-12-03
Dude obviously you're woke if you browse reddit, you have to have the highest IQ.
1 IvankaTrumpIsMyWaifu 2017-12-03
We're not in /r/rickandmarty
1 Chancehighfill1 2017-12-03
Dude obviously your have a high IQ you understand!
1 IvankaTrumpIsMyWaifu 2017-12-03
Wubba dubba lub lub
1 shallowm 2017-12-03
You know what AAVE. We all know what AAVE. AAVE is what is described by the uneducated as “how the younger crowd talks” AAVE has been commercialized and normalized to be seen as something that is hip, trendy, and happening. AAVE is used by companies on social media and in advertising and marketing as a way to appeal to the younger audience and sell to the “millennials”AAVE is used heavily in the gay community especially and overwritten as “gay slang” when really it came from black gay men and not gays of any other color. AAVE has been spread globally to the point where people who have never stepped foot on American soil or met a black American know our slang like the back of their hand, and they may or may not know where it comes from, but I’m here to tell you its a language. AAVE is our language, and apart of our black culture.
So what is AAVE? What does AAVE even stand for? African American Vernacular English (AAVE) is a variety (dialect, ethnolect and sociolect) of American English, most commonly spoken today by urban working-class and largely bi-dialectal middle-class African Americans. In simpler terms it is the language that black people speak, and or how black people speak. AAVE has a rich culture rooting back to when black Americans were enslaved. Slaves invented their own separate version of English to speak with other slaves to form a sense of unity and identity and communication without white people interfering. AAVE to the uncultured ear might not sound like “proper English” but it is in fact proper English, just English spoken in a dialect significant to black American people. AAVE was and still is our culture. It was our way to let another black person know that we are here for each other. It was a way for black people to get messages across that they didn’t want white people being aware of. It was a way for black people who had their African roots forcibly stripped to assimilate to European ways for slave labor usage to form a new cultural identity among our people. It is our language.
So why is it such a big deal if other people use AAVE? Ill put it like this. If I as a black person became obsessed with how Asian people talk, and how they pronounced English words, and paraded myself around speaking like this because I thought it made me appear cooler, trendier, maybe even harder and or more intimidating without knowing the history or the meaning of half of these terms it would be seen as extremely culturally insensitive and disrespectful to the Asian community. Why cant the same be seen for AAVE? Because black culture has been commercialized. Black language is taken and sold to the masses as “If you talk like this you’re cool.” or “Talking like this is trendy” and it is extremely uncomfortable for black people. “Why cant I talk like this? Its just words. It isn’t that serious. Whats the big deal if we want to talk like this” Its not who you are. Its not apart of your culture. Its not how you naturally speak. You aren’t criticized by society as being ghetto and uneducated if you speak like this to the point where you change your voice to sound more “white friendly” anytime you aren’t in your comfort zone. You use AAVE wrong and say things like “bae means before anyone else” when really its just a synonym for baby or babe. You tell us a white gay man invented the word “yas” because of the “Yas Gaga” video that went viral when black people gay or straight have been saying yas since before you were born. You say “Bye Felicia” without knowing who Felicia is, or where the term came from. You tell us “I speak like this because im from the ghetto” When black people who have never even seen a ghetto still talk like that because that language is our language and isnt synonymous with poverty and low income areas. You tell us “but im not white” as if not being white automatically makes you down and gives you access to a culture and history you as a non black person of color have no connection to. You tell us “This is gay slang not black slang” as if the words being said weren’t taken from black gay men by the gay community. Case and point, AAVE is for black people. Its our culture, its our slang, and its not your trend or your way to look tougher for Instagram videos or funnier in Twitter jokes. AAVE may be used by almost everyone these days but that doesnt make it any less sacred or important to black culture. Its not exclusion. Its not segregation. Its not violating freedom of speech. Its not us wanting to keep words to ourselves. Its us saying AAVE is apart of our identity as black people, and we would appreciate it if you would leave it alone.
1 Redactor0 2017-12-03
I love this argument. "I have a stick up my ass, so everyone else must too!" As if Koreans are going to freak out if you say a Konglish word like "skinship" and accuse you of cultural appropriation.
1 shallowm 2017-12-03
Um, that's called internalized racism and it exists there because of years of cultural hegemony. The Koreans have internalized the racism against themselves, so that's why they're okay with it. They're literally racist against their own people.
1 Neon_needles 2017-12-03
...Bix nood?
1 ihavecorrectopinions 2017-12-03
See, I thought so too, but it turns out that asians can get pretty annoyed if you use some of their terminology and language just to try and be friendly. I met a nice little chinaman the other day when I was ordering some noodles and to show I was friendly, I said "Ching-chong-ching-chong" but he just looked at me confused. So I asked him if he knew karate, but he just walked back into the kitchen.
1 Senator_Chickpea 2017-12-03
1 Redactor0 2017-12-03
You're supposed to just go into your kung fu stance and he'll know that you want to spar with him to see if your style is better than his. That's the universal language that absolutely 100% of asians speak.
1 Ultrashitpost 2017-12-03
Can you imagine that there is a universe out there where donald trump did not win the presidency? Can you imagine how boring that universe would be?
1 snappleteadrink 2017-12-03
Yah bud try applying any of these Reddit "lessons" to your real life
1 Darenflagart 2017-12-03
You would need to have lived in an area with actual diversity (i.e. the kind of place liberals hate) to understand why it might seem racist to be really obsessed with whether or not a guy's manner of speaking matches his skin color. You know -- apparently.
1 shallowm 2017-12-03
Any idea on who brigaded the comment chain? Apparently the comment was heavily downvoted at first (it's not anymore).
1 SPEZ_AKBAR 2017-12-03
I think it just reached the front page. The people in /new/ and /hot/ probably have very different views of ebonics.
1 Neon_needles 2017-12-03
White dudes from blacktwitter? T_D posters? Communists? Pretty much anyone but black people.
1 JohnGalt316 2017-12-03
so calling blacks nigga is okay because you are speaking AAVE
1 starship_litterbox 2017-12-03
Wrong.
1 BeNiceStopAgitating 2017-12-03
Trashy again probing it's place in the cuckshed is earned not given
1 fucknazimodzzz 2017-12-03
I love how r/trashy literally just became r/makefunofpoorwhitepeople
1 Ace4929 2017-12-03
What do you think trashy means??
1 fucknazimodzzz 2017-12-03
Poor /= trashy. The real trash in r/trashy is the mods who remove posts with black people in them and sticky posts with totally normal looking people who happen to have a Trump sign in their yard
1 CirqueDuFuder 2017-12-03
I am just waiting for the point where even aww ends up political.
1 clarkeff 2017-12-03
Look at this CUTE plush toy Planned Parenthood gave me after my abortion! Can't wait for the next one!
1 Redactor0 2017-12-03
Transgender pets. You know it will happen soon.
1 im-a-koala 2017-12-03
please no i am not ready
1 Redactor0 2017-12-03
And after pets, transgender zoo animals. Starting with the koalas.
1 tcfb 2017-12-03
It's animal abuse to not use gender neutral pronouns. They CAN understand.
1 ay_what_up2 2017-12-03
I thought that’s what this sub was
1 fucknazimodzzz 2017-12-03
Well of course the mayos should all be gassed. Nobody's debating that. I'm just tired of this blatant racism towards black people of color
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2017-12-03
AAVE is more akin to an eastern Kentucky dialect, its just spoken by uneducated dipshits.