Al Franken resigns

There was juicy drama the other day when those senator posts were spammed all over the front page, the OP posted Franken and joked about the harassment claims, then spammed the allegations against Trump whenever anyone complained.

1 Death_Trolley 2017-12-07

Unbelievable. The smear job by the right worked. Not saying he was innocent but he’s not in the same league as Moore or fuckface trump

When you take out the trash, you don’t get to pick and choose

1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-07

/u/VentureHacker I agree with you - I think this is an extremely proud day for Minnesota. I think this shows Al Franken's true character . He f'd up, his peers call for him to resign, and he did so, rather than being an egomaniac and drawing our state further down a hole.

We are very fortunate to have politicians who are honorable and...although there was some back and fourth, ultimately Franken did the right thing, because he is a good man.

Imagine if Minnesota had a Roy Moore as a Senator, still running, still denying things which were much worse, with much more evidence against him, rather than Al Franken who, although after some initial back and fourth, ultimately did the right thing...that would be a dark, sad day in Minnesota history. While the entire situation sucks, and while those with progressive views now have to fight a lot harder...ultimately more good will come out of this than bad, because Al Franken did what was best to represent the entire State of Minnesota...not just his own political group or personal aspirations.

The type of people who support Moore and Trump are perfectly OK with America and their States becoming a despotic, nationalist and patronage-driven states where individual leaders personalities' outweigh the violence committed by said leaders (or they just don't see any parallel). The real way to run a State should be to have zero tolerance for even perceived bad action. People are supporting Trump today in the same way that some people in Uganda still wistfully support Idi Amin...he essentially can do no wrong by definition, because he supports, "my tribe." There should be no tribalism in America...Franken, unlike a despot, resigned rather than holding power. He did not have to do this.

1 AllenArken 2017-12-07

this, but ironically

1 VentureHacker 2017-12-07

So what is it that you actually believe which is contrary to what I stated?

1 AllenArken 2017-12-07

nah, sorry man this is neither the time nor the place for a discussion like this. just know that i think you're wrong and that i believe senator franken should not have resigned over this.

1 VentureHacker 2017-12-07

OK, sure, I respect that. I had no idea what it was that you thought was over the top with what I wrote. In my mind, you could have been referring to anything from my reference to comparing the political climates to other states, to respecting Al Franken's actions, to whatever. There are tons of opinions on this.

"Frankly" (no pun intended) I am not convinced that he did anything wrong either...I just saw him resigning as trying to err on the side of what he thought should be the right action. If they would have actually went through the ethics investigation, that may have come out further.

I'm from Minnesota, so I may see it different than someone who is not.

1 Chancellor740 2017-12-07

This is some fresh pasta! 🍝

1 nmx179 2017-12-07

Let's be real, the fact that this guy is being run out of the US Senate because he maybe honked a titty once in 1973 and grabbed a couple of oversensitive women by the fucking waist is a fucking joke, irrespective of any political position he has.

1 SDIHTD 2017-12-07

Of course. But seeing liberals eat their own is hilarious.

Men that supported and fostered this kind of "women are perpetual victims" shit for the last 2 decades never dreamed of being caught in their own booby traps.

They were warned, however.

1 siempreloco31 2017-12-07

Seems to be working on the general stage? Min will get a new democrat and republicans hemorrhage more members.

1 SDIHTD 2017-12-07

I'm talking about society/culture. Not elections.

1 siempreloco31 2017-12-07

Seems like the only liberals that are taking the fall here are boomers. And of course upper middle class yuppie socialists. Society/culture continues to proceed in a cosmopolitan direction.

1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2017-12-07

Society/culture continues to proceed in a cosmopolitan direction.

You're not going to last long in our ironic caliphate.

1 siempreloco31 2017-12-07

our ironic caliphate

When you clearly spend too much time online.

1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2017-12-07

I post on a metasub so that's not really debatable.

1 heavenlytoaster 2017-12-07

And then it all bursts at the seams and you get trump.

1 siempreloco31 2017-12-07

GOP will have a problem surviving Trump, but at least they will have the Senate.

1 wwyzzerdd 2017-12-07

So what you're saying is Bernie still has a chance?

MATCH ME

1 siempreloco31 2017-12-07

lol you think I'm a berniebro?

1 wwyzzerdd 2017-12-07

No I think you're a retard. But you're implying Bernie can still win!

MATCH ME DOUBLE

1 newprofile15 2017-12-07

Lol imagine actually thinking that... This is easily a win for Republicans and the Dems will shed more blood for this and Repubs won't give a fuck about any allegations against their guys, as always.

1 siempreloco31 2017-12-07

Min will get a new democrat and republicans hemorrhage more members

This is easily verifiable. I don't "think" this, because it's in the data.

1 SDIHTD 2017-12-07

You sure about that?

And the Governor's seat is up for election too. Last time all three were up at the same time was 1978. They called it the "Minnesota Massacre." The DFL candidates were predicted to win all the seats, but the GOP took them all.

From the /r/minnesota thread.

1 siempreloco31 2017-12-07

Yes, D+8 nationally. If you take a single datapoint and go with it, be my guest.

1 newprofile15 2017-12-07

How could they possibly GAIN a seat here? They can only just not lose it, and they might actually lose it if their candidate sucks, the Repub candidate is good, or if the stain of Franken resigning poisons the well for voters. Voters either believe the allegations = dem harasser OR don't believe the allegations justify resigning = Dems are the party of overreacting to harassment allegations.

There is no good spin on this. This is just Dems imploding their party.

1 siempreloco31 2017-12-07

I didn't say they would gain a seat. They would get a new D-MN.

Dem's look principled as the GOP elects a child molester. R's run from the party and start becoming independents.

1 newprofile15 2017-12-07

R's aren't running from the party for this, that is stupid. The only voters who think this makes Dems look principled are people who were already going to vote Dem. For independents it's just another resignation. For Republicans they think he allegations against their guys are fake and the allegations against the Dems are all real and that this is all a validation of the "fake news" narrative.

1 ClueKiss 2017-12-07

GOP: Gropey Old Pedophiles.

The attack ads literally write themselves.

1 newprofile15 2017-12-07

Yea and they'll play well with Dem voters but not with independents who just saw a Dem pol resign for groping allegations and Republicans who see it as "fake news."

Moore is going to win his election, that should say it all.

1 ClueKiss 2017-12-07

There's plenty of suburban lean-GOP women voters who don't like old creepers. They may even tell everyone they're Republican, but in the privacy of the voting booth, they may well pull the lever for the less-harassers.

1 newprofile15 2017-12-07

It's the opposite, they'll talk about how disapproving they are and wonder where the honest men are but when push comes to shove they'll figure that all men are dogs and it won't change their vote... Same as happened with Trump.

1 siempreloco31 2017-12-07

R's aren't running from the party for this, that is stupid.

Absolutely they are. Like I said this is easily verifiable. Tons of polls based on party affiliation. Trump's approval sinks yet he remains extremely high with R's. People are leaving in droves.

1 wow___justwow 2017-12-07

Oh yeah the polls. Just like the polls that said Clinton had a 98.5% of winning the election and had double digit leads in the swing states.

My favorite poll ever is the one that happened ONE WEEK before the election that had her FOURTEEN POINTS ahead.

Don't stop believin.

1 siempreloco31 2017-12-07

Clinton was +3 average and got +2.1.

But muh narrative, stats don't real.

1 wow___justwow 2017-12-07

"all the polls that were wrong I ignore"

1 Matues49 2017-12-07

How many times does it have to be explained to you subhuman mouth-breathers that all the big name polling companies were actually pretty spott on with their predictions?

The foresaw Clinton ending up with more votes, and she did.

1 wwyzzerdd 2017-12-07

Is that the story we're going with now? They just "foresaw Clinton ending up with more votes" but not winning?

1 Matues49 2017-12-07

Winning was up in the air, E.C. but almost all reliable polls placed her ahead in terms of voting %.

Just because Breitbart didn't bother report on it doesn't mean it didn't happen, Cleetus.

1 wwyzzerdd 2017-12-07

Trump can't win!

1 wow___justwow 2017-12-07

subhuman

Why are you a literal nazi?

1 die_rattin 2017-12-07

Trump doesn't have to be liked, just liked more than his opponent

1 siempreloco31 2017-12-07

I'm talking mid-late game here.

1 heavenlytoaster 2017-12-07

As an independent this is more of a "oh shit the other cult is starting to perform ritualistic sacrifice" moment

1 newprofile15 2017-12-07

Yeah basically. Good for them and all but if someone comes away from Franken's resignation as motivated they were already a Dem voter.

1 SDIHTD 2017-12-07

You are detached from reality...after just accusing someone else of spending too much time online.

R voters don't care about the allegations against Moore. In fact, the more liberals berate them and insult Alabama and all the other elitist shit, the more people are going to make a point to go out and vote.

You don't "look principled" to anyone that exists in the real world. You look like a party that just lost one of their superstars to a sex scandal...that's it.

1 siempreloco31 2017-12-07

Look man, this is in the data. I think you're uncharitably characterizing R's as one type of person.

1 SDIHTD 2017-12-07

I mean, maybe.

But Moore's numbers are going up. As SNL and Hollywood pile on the Alabama stereotypes, his numbers keep rising.

It's almost like something very similar happened during the presidential election.

1 siempreloco31 2017-12-07

Moore is winning Alabama, but not as well as a normal R. He should be +25 but he's more like +1.5 and Moore winning Alabama is not so much a win for the GOP

1 SDIHTD 2017-12-07

Fair enough point.

1 The_DJSeahorse 2017-12-07

Men that supported and fostered this kind of "women are perpetual victims" shit

...are most often beta orbiters trying to creep on chicks. Chads grab them by the pussy and they let you do it.

1 zergling_Lester 2017-12-07

being caught in their own booby traps.

(-:

1 freet0 2017-12-07

titty entanglements

1 zergling_Lester 2017-12-07

Sounds like a hl1 level name.

1 freet0 2017-12-07

As much as I enjoy seeing these morons eat themselves, I really wish they would wait to self destruct until someone less retarded than Trump will be left in charge

1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-07

True. But, that's what you get for hanging out with liberals.

1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-12-07

I honk at /u/Honk4tits daily and you don't see me resigning 'n shit! Al-Frankenstein needs to grow a spine!!! Btw

🎺🎺 #(. )( .) Ԅ(≖‿≖ԅ)

1 Deeeber 2017-12-07

For the love of God Ed, why can't you find your way to a mass shooting?

1 do0rkn0b 2017-12-07

Are we being serious this time

1 IvankaTrumpIsMyWaifu 2017-12-07

Yes I am pretty sure /u/Ed_ButteredToast isn't funny anymore and has gone to 100% sad territory now

1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-12-07

implying I was funny at some point

kek <--- this one

kek

1 IvankaTrumpIsMyWaifu 2017-12-07

Well we were actually laughing at you, but I mean at least we were laughing

1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-12-07

Awwww my lil boo mad at me? :(

1 IvankaTrumpIsMyWaifu 2017-12-07

I mean you made an ass of yourself just the other day, am I mad? No.... did I lose respect when you went from a pasta machine to seriousposting? Yeah

1 RenegadeJoeson 2017-12-07

One out of 100 of his comments are worth reading. He's the worst.

1 IvankaTrumpIsMyWaifu 2017-12-07

He uses 3 alts to downovte any comment you make about him too it's hilarious you can respond to him on posts that are 4 days old (no one in their right mind would be reading) and instantly you're downvoted to -2 the SECOND he hits reply. It's so obvious, I'm considering asking the admins to investigate. He's been suspended for vote manipulation at least once now.

1 RenegadeJoeson 2017-12-07

Jesus how embarrassing. I vote report him. This can only bring about tastey drama. The ed wars are beginning.

1 IvankaTrumpIsMyWaifu 2017-12-07

I'm a little gun shy about reporting people after the u/aluzky drama. I reported that dog fucking asshole to the admins and they banned him for good. I figured he'd pop back on an alt,but so far we haven't seen him

1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-12-07

You'll feel better. Inshallah.

1 SDIHTD 2017-12-07

What happened the other day? Obviously only the latest time Ed is embarrassing.

1 IvankaTrumpIsMyWaifu 2017-12-07

He started refering to Trump as "dada" or something, the cringe level was off the charts. He's so butthurt about Trump that he literally regressed to the point of a 2 year old

1 SDIHTD 2017-12-07

Ed is like pizzashill but was a fetus born addicted to fentanyl.

1 IvankaTrumpIsMyWaifu 2017-12-07

Pizzashill at least sperged out from time to time with full diatribes. When ed's retardism gets himself painted into a corner he just responds with pasta and then pulls the whole "jokes on you I was only pretending to be retarded" act.

1 newprofile15 2017-12-07

Didn't think I could hate you more but here it is.

1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-12-07

1 subpoutine 2017-12-07

You fucking leave /u/Ed_ButteredToast alone. He/she is like our own version of /u/BasicallyADoctor before he caught a case of the normies.

1 a_normal_human 2017-12-07

If it wasn't for that picture, it wouldn't have gone anywhere.

1 Going_up_the_Country 2017-12-07

The hover hands picture? That bit is baffling to me.

1 Mexagon 2017-12-07

HR would destroy you over a picture like that.

1 Going_up_the_Country 2017-12-07

I can't wait until the generation that posted pictures of everything on social media becomes the dominant political age. Do you vote for the woman who had a blackface costume for Halloween, or the guy who drew dicks all over his buddies face when he passed out?

1 _narrows 2017-12-07

Were they black dicks?

1 Going_up_the_Country 2017-12-07

Aint enough room on a face to draw a proper black dick.

1 _narrows 2017-12-07

Some say we had to reinvent pants to accommodate proper bbc

1 DoctorFahrenheit 2017-12-07

You probably vote for the people who were smart enough to carefully cultivate what they put online.

But, I don't think it'll be an issue by then. Hopefully by then we'll be living under God's law.

1 SethRichOrDieTryin 2017-12-07

Inshallah

1 AkroanParliament 2017-12-07

But, I don't think it'll be an issue by then. Hopefully by then we'll be living under God's law.

So you're saying that there won't be any women candidates?

1 DoctorFahrenheit 2017-12-07

I'm saying there won't be any candidates.

1 AkroanParliament 2017-12-07

I'm saying there won't be any candidates.

Is that a joke about invisible jesus, or dead mohammed? I'm not clear.

1 AkroanParliament 2017-12-07

I can't wait until the generation that posted pictures of everything on social media becomes the dominant political age. Do you vote for the woman who had a blackface costume for Halloween, or the guy who drew dicks all over his buddies face when he passed out?

What about the guy who dresses up as 2005 Prince Harry? OH RIGHT HE'LL BE IN OFFICE.

1 FreeDory 2017-12-07

With out consent it sounds like rape.

1 Mexagon 2017-12-07

Hey, liberals have been pushing this type of shit for awhile now. Hell, franken himself helped create this bullshit.

1 TheLadyEve 2017-12-07

BUT what he did was wrong and it's good that he's doing something to take responsibility for it.

1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-07

Just don't have screechy feminists as your constituents.

1 die_rattin 2017-12-07

it's good that he's doing something to take responsibility for it

He didn't do shit until he was given the boot (oh, sorry, 'voluntarily resigning') for being a liability

Oh wait, he said he'd 'fully cooperate' with the same pending investigation he just cited as the reason he's leaving office

1 CirqueDuFuder 2017-12-07

It is almost like he could still have a job if he didn't force his tongue down a model's throat and need shoved off. Good for him on committing career suicide but he was the one that loaded that gun in the first place.

1 SovietWarfare 2017-12-07

You live by the high horse, you die by the high horse. Dems are crazy like that.

1 BeNiceStopAgitating 2017-12-07

Back to r politics

1 captainpriapism 2017-12-07

if people start advocating dumb arbitrary standards wherein they can accuse people and get them fired for nothing then both sides are going to take advantage of it

it is what it is

1 felixjawesome 2017-12-07

both sides are going to take advantage of it

Yeah, but it only seems to have an effect on liberals.

For example: Newt Gingrich, the serial cheater and former Speaker of the House, lead the campaign to impeach Bill Clinton for getting his dick sucked.

Now Newt is coming out in defense of Al Franken. Politics is fucking nutty!

1 captainpriapism 2017-12-07

thats because theyre the ones that fake concern in the first place

republicans are like "fuck you yeah i molest people" so the pearl clutching doesnt work

dems pretend trump saying "grab a pussy" is the worst thing in the world which means they cant excuse a rapist without looking like massive hypocrites

poetic justice really

1 DoctorFahrenheit 2017-12-07

Its really not. Hypocrites like Franken are some of the most dangerous offenders. They're wolves in sheeps clothing.

Besides, its better it came out now then during his presidential campaign.

1 GuillotinesNOW 2017-12-07

Yep. One hoverhands picture and Al Franken is literally a rapist, lol. This kind of pussiness is why the left can't do anything.

Especially when the GOP is about to have an ~~ephebophile~~ pedophile senator because they just said "so what, at least he's not fucking guys, stfu and vote for him, stupid cucks."

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1 Honk4Tits 2017-12-07

Honked a titty?

1 MissTawdryHepburn 2017-12-07

I think it's great honestly. This mentality from the left is the reason that poor woman was bullied into hanging herself, and the self righteousness of the left means they need to, for once, abide by their own ridiculous rules.

If he can run around saying women should be believed basically no matter what, then he can reap the whirlwind that comes along with that when women accuse him.

As a woman, I find it disgusting that radical feminists on the left are equating cat calling, being hit on, even being kissed, with being raped. They're not the same, I assure everyone. And this mentality that women should just automatically be believed, to the detriment of innocent men accused, is beyond absurd.

If they want to continue to lead witch hunts against every person who looks the wrong way at a woman, then it's only fair their careers tank too. Can't have it both ways.

1 Matues49 2017-12-07

Irrelevant but Al Fraken reminds me of a middle aged version of that curly haired fat kid from Stranger Things.

1 felixjawesome 2017-12-07

Hmmm. You're right.

1 Thhueros 2017-12-07

Oh wow it actually happened lol

1 The_runnerup913 2017-12-07

Can the Alabama pedo get gassed next?

1 Gothmog26 2017-12-07

As soon as he's elected.

1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-07

Sure. That will happen as soon as right-traditionalists start giving a damn what HuffPo readers think.

1 glmox 2017-12-07

nothing says "right-traditionalism" like creeping on middle-schoolers at the mall, you do have a point there

1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-07

Its a game, chief. If you an hero over someone's character assassination, you lose. And Democrats are losers.

1 JumbledFun 2017-12-07

this is why the country is fucked. You dumbass inbreds think running and directing the country is a contest to be won rather than a very important task that should be treated with the utmost seriousness. This is also why the GOP can't come up with any new ideas, just scrap old ones cause "the other side came up with it"

1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-07

For you.

1 Matues49 2017-12-07

Is this pasta, or are you legit this fucktarded?

Because if you are... man, sincerely kill yourself. You may not realise it now, but your family & friends will be better off without you.

1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-07

SINCERELY TRIGGERED.

1 MrAlphonzo 2017-12-07

If you ain't calling for gays to lose their rights and then getting some bussy action in your office on the side then you ain't being a real republican.

1 wolfsktaag 2017-12-07

nothing says ~~"right-traditionalism"~~ spic like creeping on middle-schoolers at the mall, you do have a point there

its like you were born yesterday and have never experienced america

1 quityourbullshit777 2017-12-07

I'm an alabama **** and I wanna be free!!!!

1 MadMaxMercer 2017-12-07

Real talk, I thought he was gay up until the pics came out. #grabherbythetitties

1 michgot 2017-12-07

GIMME A LINK TO THE WOMAN WHO ACCUSED HIM'S TWITTER. THAT'S WHERE THE REAL DRAMA IS.

1 lewildcard 2017-12-07

learn what google is you lazy shitlord

1 charlesgrodinfan 2017-12-07

Wonder if Franken will go back to comedy.

2018, Al Franken and Garrison Keillor headline the Gropey Old Men tour.

1 menvaren 2017-12-07

Jesus Christ this is good.

1 snallygaster 2017-12-07

ft. Bill Cosby

1 Lawgustmarck 2017-12-07

Promoted and directed by Harvey Weinstein.

1 uniqueguy263 2017-12-07

And Louis CK

1 felixjawesome 2017-12-07

The Molesters of Comedy.

1 subpoutine 2017-12-07

Maybe when Weiner gets out of jail they can start up Gropey and Anthony.

1 SDIHTD 2017-12-07

This one is the best.

1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-07

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1 dis_is_my_account 2017-12-07

Thank God, I didn't want him running for president. Give me Hillary again, I don't care.

1 turtlesrprettycool 2017-12-07

He didn't resign though? He said he would in the near future. So expect some political grandstanding on the senate floor first.

1 saint2e 2017-12-07

Every Liberal right now.

1 Karmaisforsuckers 2017-12-07

Aaaaaaaand the dems just handed Trump 2020.

1 IAintThatGuy 2017-12-07

What I love is that the republican sex offenders will spin it into : he resigned because he was guilty, and Moore won't, which proves he's innocent.

1 aliceunknown 2017-12-07

One less chosen person in the senate.

1 aliceunknown 2017-12-07

I never determined if Al was a tits or ass man.

1 BeNiceStopAgitating 2017-12-07

A Y Y Y L A M O

1 heavenlytoaster 2017-12-07

This but unironically

1 captainpriapism 2017-12-07

tbh i just dont understand dudes face he looks like a fuckin alien or something

1 heavenlytoaster 2017-12-07

Senator William Dafoe!

1 catincars1217 2017-12-07

The hypocrisy of some Democrats is astounding. When it's a republican on the chopping block they condem him without a second thought, but when it's good ol' Al suddenly it's a conspiracy and he's probably innocent.

1 EzraKleinVox 2017-12-07

The most asinine thing I keep seeing is Democrats openly crowing about how this will give them the "moral high ground" to condemn Trump and Moore, basically admitting out loud that this is all about political expediency and their loathing for the right.

Too bad it doesn't make Democrats look principled, it makes them look insane and hysterical. Predicting now that the moral panic is going to devour most of the Democrats' best candidates in 2018 and 2020. The Brooklyn twitter shit heads who now make up the media will applaud ever more farcical show trials, but most Americans will look on in disgust and horror. Republicans will continue to not give a shit and will win even more elections against the self-immolating Democrats.

1 wow___justwow 2017-12-07

Well, we got some fresh pasta out of this at least

I am so pissed at the Democrats right now. Time and time again they play right into the Republicans' hand. Why do they keep falling for such obvious bullshit? He posed for a tasteless photo? His hand touched my butt? He tried to kiss me but I dodged him?!? Give me a fucking break. Even if these accusations are true they are so minor in the grand scheme of things that they frankly do a disservice to the actual victims and actual systemic harassment and assault being exposed right now. The enemy has successfully weaponized our own movement against us, and we're gleefully pulling the trigger.

This to me is one of the most troubling things about this new "post-truth" era. The death of context. The inability to apply nuance and evaluate things on their own terms. Everything just swings from one extreme to the next. There is no moderation, no compromise. Only zealotry. Liberals like to rag on the conservatives for being ignorant and brainwashed but at least they have that excuse. What's our excuse for continually falling for the much more insidious and less obvious types of propaganda like the dreaded combo of false equivalency and uncompromising purity?

If you can equate an awkward moment of unwarranted sexual attention with rape and child molestation then the conversation is irrevocably muddied and tainted. Chaos wins. We are fighting for the very soul of our country, fighting against literal authoritarians, and we can't stop falling all over ourselves to sacrifice our best and brightest at the slightest hint of impropriety.

We need people like Franken, now more than ever. What good is moral superiority when you can't actually get anything done? What good is doing the right thing when there's a boot stamping on your face, forever? There are a million degrees of separation between the moral standings of Democrats and Republicans at present, we can afford to take the gloves off for a few goddamn punches.

And yes, I realize the irony of me criticizing the Dems for attacking each other. Obviously I will continue to vote for them and encourage everyone to do the same, as we literally have no other reasonable or pragmatic option, but my god do they make it hard sometimes.

1 Pepperglue 2017-12-07

Even if these accusations are true they are so minor in the grand scheme of things

Yeah sure he may groped a few women, but he's needed for other things, and we can't let this petty feud slow him down!

1 cervixassassination 2017-12-07

He'll be fine: he's good enough, he's smart enough, and doggone people like him.

1 Why_Trump_Will_Win 2017-12-07

1 Tarrock 2017-12-07

We're so close Reddit! Only 193 people now have to be impeached/resign/etc for Bernie to be president!

1 Pistachiothenut 2017-12-07

no drama smh

1 GaffnyMcGuckin 2017-12-07

See https://imgur.com/a/MQjlg for opinion of America's sex crime expert: Linda Fairstein (top of 3rd page). Never 4000 UCR annual rape reports in all NYC, let alone just Manhattan, so Fairstein is lying on multiple levels including she is still lying about having ever said it. >95% to nearly all of student allegations against students are lies. Per RAINN only 2.25% of police reports end with conviction, and as everybody knows, that isn't all the reports police receive.